lordswoodsaints Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 (edited) you say why pick him, most seem to think its sensible - if you can't think of anyone better maybe Cortese couldn't either! I'm not getting paid suitcases full of dosh to make those decisions but if I was I would have gone for a more mature,better qualified candidate....I'm just not a fan of managers with 'potential' or 'up and coming',this to me means gamble,something we don't need to do. I'm all in favour of shortening the odds and appointing a 'new' manager isn't doing that. If it upsets people that I'm not in favour of Adkins then too bad,I'm sure that everybody on here hasn't agreed with a team selection,playing a certain player or the formation of the team and this is no different.......just because I don't agree with the choice doesn't mean I don't support saints any less. IMO this is a big gamble and I don't agree that he is the right man for the job at the moment,it doesn't have anything to do with the rumours about MoN or KK or any other silly rumour,it's just a gut feeling that it's going to end in tears. Please prove me wrong and I will hold my hands up. Edited 13 September, 2010 by lordswoodsaints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 So many 'excellent' 'best appointment' ever,even 'genius appointment' statements,yet if you show an ounce of trepidation,hesitancy, think it is a huge gamble and worried that this appointment is shorterm or shortsighted in anyway you get a barrage of 'just because he is'nt a 'big name' or 'you know nothing about him'. What makes some on here think they are more qualified to post their opinion 'as fact' than others that are not so convinced it will all be rosy in the garden? He did well at Scunny,well thats it then,it is written in stone...Adkins the saviour that will turn the fortunes around take us all the way to the promised land. He did well at a club with low expectations,got them promoted,took them down,got them promoted with really no pressure and safe and comfortable in the knowledge his job was safe....he was permantly in his comfort zone. As i say,good luck i hope you do really well,but some are peeing their pants at this prospect,based on no more than those who are slightly underwhelmed:) Is there no middle ground when it comes to some people? Good luck Nigel,prove me wrong. And before the who 'would you have liked' is wheeled out as the defence for adkins,Possibly Mowbray,Zola/Clarke......now if they had been appointed i would still have some reservations i would not have declared it at 'excellent' 'genius' he/they will do a brilliant job for us' as though it is fact. Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Quietly confident about this appointment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncoboy Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Hurrah a manager. Another new start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Cannot beleive so many are dismissing him before hes even had a training session. And before a smart-arse accuses me of the same, I was pleased by the appointments of both Burliniho and Pardont, and only turned against them once they demonstrated their mediocre streaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 To write someone off without giving them a chance is madness. To predict he will be a massive success again madness. He will need time to settle and get to know the players unfortunately, which will mean promotion is nothing like as assured as it was (even if it was). My big fear is that he turns out to be really good and then is poached by a Prem club before we get a chance to once more challenge for a place amid the elite. I like the sound of him, he is obviously intelligent, I like it that his teams play football and as long as he is allowed to manage without undue interferance then maybe we can once and for all put this ridiculous managerial merry-go-round to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 (edited) To write someone off without giving them a chance is madness. To predict he will be a massive success again madness. He will need time to settle and get to know the players unfortunately, which will mean promotion is nothing like as assured as it was (even if it was). My big fear is that he turns out to be really good and then is poached by a Prem club before we get a chance to once more challenge for a place amid the elite. I like the sound of him, he is obviously intelligent, I like it that his teams play football and as long as he is allowed to manage without undue interferance then maybe we can once and for all put this ridiculous managerial merry-go-round to bed. The merry-go-round will probably always exist it is the norm for 95% of the clubs in the 4 leagues,why should we be any different? In an ideal world we would all like a ferguson,wenger or moyes but that's not the way it is for us,high turnover of managers isn't anything to be scared of.....spurs and man city havnt done too bad and their turnover is just as frequent as ours. Edited 13 September, 2010 by lordswoodsaints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Glad it's finally sorted, but I'm curious about this: "The appointment follows an intense, but thorough search, with the Club having received a very high volume and quality of applications, the majority of which came from well respected managers currently working in the top two divisions of English football and abroad." So, current manager(s) from the premiership applied did they? Really? Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 So many 'excellent' 'best appointment' ever,even 'genius appointment' statements,yet if you show an ounce of trepidation,hesitancy, think it is a huge gamble and worried that this appointment is shorterm or shortsighted in anyway you get a barrage of 'just because he is'nt a 'big name' or 'you know nothing about him'. What makes some on here think they are more qualified to post their opinion 'as fact' than others that are not so convinced it will all be rosy in the garden? He did well at Scunny,well thats it then,it is written in stone...Adkins the saviour that will turn the fortunes around take us all the way to the promised land. He did well at a club with low expectations,got them promoted,took them down,got them promoted with really no pressure and safe and comfortable in the knowledge his job was safe....he was permantly in his comfort zone. As i say,good luck i hope you do really well,but some are peeing their pants at this prospect,based on no more than those who are slightly underwhelmed:) Is there no middle ground when it comes to some people? Good luck Nigel,prove me wrong. And before the who 'would you have liked' is wheeled out as the defence for adkins,Possibly Mowbray,Zola/Clarke......now if they had been appointed i would still have some reservations i would not have declared it at 'excellent' 'genius' he/they will do a brilliant job for us' as though it is fact. would be surprised if anyone doesn't have doubts (as would with any appointment). Mowbray is a good manager but no idea whether he would be interested. Zola - bigger name but sure some (not saying you ) would be moaning about his lack of knowledge at this level, could have worked out but maybe not as motivated for this level - personally would prefer good manager (adknis) rather than pander to fans and media love of names for the sake of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Yup, let's hope he stays around for a long time and guides us to success. I wish him all the best. But it's obviously a bit of a gamble. He's never had to deal with the pressure of expectation before, and no-one - perhaps including himself - knows how well he'll cope with that. On the other hand he's obviously a bright articulate coach, and well-respected within the game. Good luck Nige! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 I'm not getting paid suitcases full of dosh to make those decisions but if I was I would have gone for a more mature,better qualified candidate....I'm just not a fan of managers with 'potential' or 'up and coming',this to me means gamble,something we don't need to do. I'm all in favour of shortening the odds and appointing a 'new' manager isn't doing that. If it upsets people that I'm not in favour of Adkins then too bad,I'm sure that everybody on here hasn't agreed with a team selection,playing a certain player or the formation of the team and this is no different.......just because I don't agree with the choice doesn't mean I don't support saints any less. IMO this is a big gamble and I don't agree that he is the right man for the job at the moment,it doesn't have anything to do with the rumours about MoN or KK or any other silly rumour,it's just a gut feeling that it's going to end in tears. Please prove me wrong and I will hold my hands up. think you have proved it yourself, you cannot come up with anyone better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 To write someone off without giving them a chance is madness. To predict he will be a massive success again madness. He will need time to settle and get to know the players unfortunately, which will mean promotion is nothing like as assured as it was (even if it was). My big fear is that he turns out to be really good and then is poached by a Prem club before we get a chance to once more challenge for a place amid the elite. I like the sound of him, he is obviously intelligent, I like it that his teams play football and as long as he is allowed to manage without undue interferance then maybe we can once and for all put this ridiculous managerial merry-go-round to bed. agree with this fair summary. Although if he proves really good we will be well on the way to the premiership ourselves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 (edited) Somebody who's been a manager longer than 4 years,who's the finished article,who has managed at a higher level......let Adkins continue his training at another club we needed somebody a bit more qualified. Always aim as high as you can afford and I'm sure that on that list of candidates there must have been somebody better qualified. who Sorry Nick, but thats a silly question. You have to know the full list of names to answer that, but the OS statement set itself up for people to ask why a candidate with more experience did not come to the top. Give people the list and I'm sure they will give you some names. The OS said the club had: "..a very high volume and quality of applications, the majority of which came from well respected managers currently working in the top two divisions of English football and abroad." It is widely understood that there were some 30 applicants, with two from clubs currently in the Prem. If the statement is honest, that implies that nearly half the managers in the Championship must have applied. I doubt if anyone believes that, but in trying to build up Adkins appointment, the OS has again gone over the top with spin. The result is people asking why one of these other more experienced, high quality candidates would not have been a better choice. What Adkins does have, that many managers do not, is a higher level of educational achievement and qualification. Maybe that is what impressed Cortese and maybe the appointment will turn out well, but lets remember that some top managers (Ferguson for example) are not renowned for their educational achievements. Sorry again, Nick, but your obsequious attitude to whoever runs the club or manages the team just doesn't add anything to a sensible debate. Good luck to Nigel Adkins, I hope Saints fans will get behind him and wish him well, because his success would be our success, so we are all in this together, but there are questions about how Cortese is running the club, and the OS propaganda, that leaves a little discomfort. Edited 13 September, 2010 by Professor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 would be surprised if anyone doesn't have doubts (as would with any appointment). Mowbray is a good manager but no idea whether he would be interested. Zola - bigger name but sure some (not saying you ) would be moaning about his lack of knowledge at this level, could have worked out but maybe not as motivated for this level - personally would prefer good manager (adknis) rather than pander to fans and media love of names for the sake of it. Thats why i included Clarke in the scenario as i think it would have benefited Zola and us greatly. Anyway,onwards and upwards...hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 (edited) Well something not right about it. It's not the right place for it - but it's obviously "fill-in" flash possibly with a couple of reflectors. See this image for a similar result: http://www.kern-photo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/on-axis_fill_ring_flash_portrait_photography_in_colorado02.jpg This combined with the diminishing lighting conditions and voila - the shot you see of our new manager looking dramatic! After that photography lesson I'd like to wish Nigel and "Crozzer" all the best. Edited 13 September, 2010 by jasonb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 not a silly question at all, we all know to positive reviews he has so clearly no mug - but could we get someone better? Who knows, but of the names realistic linked I think he sounds best option. If you think Brown or Howe would be better, fair enough - I don't but it is a bit random how managers turn out. Personally I think saying we should have got someone else and then not being able to think of anyone better adds little!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 think you have proved it yourself, you cannot come up with anyone better! I'll tell you what,you come up with the list of candidates and I will pick who I think we should appoint....I'm sorry I'm not privvy to that information. I'm guessing you are happy with the appointment.....well here's a differing opinion,I'm not....I'm also guessing you went Wilde for mike and 'in cortese we trust'.....get over yourself,it's not my job to make the decisions at SFC but it is my job to question those decisions or applaud those decisions,that's my duty as a saints fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolosfc Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 At last, a good appointment IMO. Still don't believe what Nicola is saying about 'only manager he offered the job'. He plays attractive football though and proven at this level, good luck Nige! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyhappysaint Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Great appointment, this I'm sure will prove to be the best appointment we have made in many many years, after to be honest a load of absolute rubbish after WGS. 1st time in a long time I'm actually very excited. Great Manager & Chairman working well together - long may it last! The small thing that worries me now though is that with the recent passing of Marcus, how long will NC stay on the scene. We need a settled ship for a good few years now. Please - no more changes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Thats why i included Clarke in the scenario as i think it would have benefited Zola and us greatly. Anyway,onwards and upwards...hopefully. think they would have been good and exciting - but not sure how likely the likes of them would be??? we have all seen "great" managers fail in their next job and vice versa - so who knows. as you say.. ,onwards and upwards...hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 I'll tell you what,you come up with the list of candidates and I will pick who I think we should appoint....I'm sorry I'm not privvy to that information. I'm guessing you are happy with the appointment.....well here's a differing opinion,I'm not....I'm also guessing you went Wilde for mike and 'in cortese we trust'.....get over yourself,it's not my job to make the decisions at SFC but it is my job to question those decisions or applaud those decisions,that's my duty as a saints fan. Brown Howe Adkins M Adams Tony Adams Hart Dowie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Think the only good thing i can say about this appointment is surely he'll be able to get better performances than Wilkins has managed for the last 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Brown Howe Adkins M Adams Tony Adams Hart Dowie And? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 you pick!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 you pick!! The appointment follows an intense, but thorough search, with the Club having received a very high volume and quality of applications, the majority of which came from well respected managers currently working in the top two divisions of English football and abroad." Those names don't look like a 'high volume of well respected managers to me' and I'm guessing you are guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 agree with this fair summary. Although if he proves really good we will be well on the way to the premiership ourselves! And if he doesn't, we won't. As Fitzhugh Fella said, to predict he will be a massive success is just as mad as writing him off without giving him a chance, but then Nick goes off down the success road before we've kicked a ball under Adkins. Can't help feeling that if the club had appointed Kevin Dillon from Aldershot, NickG would be drooling over the appointment of someone who knows Hampshire football, on the basis that whoever runs SFC can do no wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Sorry Nick, but thats a silly question. You have to know the full list of names to answer that, but the OS statement set itself up for people to ask why a candidate with more experience did not come to the top. Give people the list and I'm sure they will give you some names. The OS said the club had: "..a very high volume and quality of applications, the majority of which came from well respected managers currently working in the top two divisions of English football and abroad." It is widely understood that there were some 30 applicants, with two from clubs currently in the Prem. If the statement is honest, that implies that nearly half the managers in the Championship must have applied. I doubt if anyone believes that, but in trying to build up Adkins appointment, the OS has again gone over the top with spin. The result is people asking why one of these other more experienced, high quality candidates would not have been a better choice. What Adkins does have, that many managers do not, is a higher level of educational achievement and qualification. Maybe that is what impressed Cortese and maybe the appointment will turn out well, but lets remember that some top managers (Ferguson for example) are not renowned for their educational achievements. Sorry again, Nick, but your obsequious attitude to whoever runs the club or manages the team just doesn't add anything to a sensible debate. Good luck to Nigel Adkins, I hope Saints fans will get behind him and wish him well, because his success would be our success, so we are all in this together, but there are questions about how Cortese is running the club, and the OS propaganda that leaves a little discomfort. I've highlighted this bit because this bit baffles me most about this farce. I'm really stumped that we ended up with the best manager out of all the applicants in this group. Just my opinion. Whilst I wish NA well, I just hope this point made by FF doesn't ruin his chances. From FF's post, 'I like the sound of him, he is obviously intelligent, I like it that his teams play football and as long as he is allowed to manage without undue interferance then maybe we can once and for all put this ridiculous managerial merry-go-round to bed'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Will Dean Wilkins survive. Btw he will surely go down as the worst Saints manager in our history P3 L3 F0 A6 - stats like that will take some beating. As for Adkins, I'm very happy to give the guy a decent chance. He clearly has something about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 totally out of contect professor to score points - the premiership reference was commenting on FF's comment about if he does really well he will be attractive to prem sides - my point is if he does really well that would mean we have been successful which would mean promotion I have no idea how he will do, I am slightly nervous about the change of management but hope he does well. I am not saying this man will definately get us to prem - I hope he will. What I think is that I cannot imagine any big name super successful manager would want to come here, but the experienced names would be something like the list of names I posted - and of those Adkins would be my first choice. You may think detailed knowledge of Hampshire football would be a priority, but my view of football is that knowledge of success at league 1 is our priority at the moment. Now who has that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 So, would it be fair to say that you are whelmed? Since I am not disgruntled at this appointment, I suppose I could describe myself as gruntled? Just glad it's sorted as really hope he can wake the team up, get their respect and backing and start seeing some results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Saint Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 I am glad it is Adkins he has done a good job with Scunny 1 thing is for sure we neede to appoint someone as the last 3 performances have been poor the team have just been going through the motions. None of us have a crystal ball and cant say for sure if it will work out or not I happen to think it will I am glad we have a English manager with expirence of this league our 1st objective is promotion out of this division he has done twice so in my book he is well qualified. I hope we can all get behind him give him a chance and a bit of time after all we all want to see Saints doing well the start to the season couldnt really have gone any worse I hope Adkins is coming in at the right time and we can get on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Good luck Nigel and I think you will need some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 The appointment follows an intense, but thorough search, with the Club having received a very high volume and quality of applications, the majority of which came from well respected managers currently working in the top two divisions of English football and abroad." Those names don't look like a 'high volume of well respected managers to me' and I'm guessing you are guessing. Agreed. Why not include Davies, Warnock, Mackay, Holloway. Nick's list wasn't well respected managers currently working in the top two divisions because it didn't suit him to come up with one. Never mind - Truce called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickfinks Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 would rather him than Howe, Brown, WGS, Hoddle, Dowie etc Probably about the best appointment we could have made in our current situation - lets hope it works out this is spot on, I don't need to read anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 would rather him than Howe, Brown, WGS, Hoddle, Dowie etc Probably about the best appointment we could have made in our current situation - lets hope it works out this is spot on, I don't need to read anything else very sensible post - and saves time as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian the Red Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Delighted we now have a manager and now our season can begin. However, running a team on a shoe string, with players that are not well known is a little different to running a team with higher profile players with more ego and earning more money. Will be very interesting to see how the players respond; a good performance and win on Wednesday and the same agian on Saturday will put my mind at rest!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 It is in my interests NA is a success and so I hope the appointment is correct. I am very far from being excited about his appointment.I understand win percentages mean nothing but 42% is very average. He got promotion he 2nd time by the play-offs and so he is hardly a messiah. I will support him, but i can't see how he will lead us back to the PL as he has no experience there and so if we are picking him for his ability to get us out of this league i assume he will only be here for 2 years and then we go for someone again. I think that the next couple of weeks when/if we get players and if they inspire me i will perhaps warm a bit more to him. No doubt my thinking has been effected by my desire to have had Howe. Yes he has little experience but his achievements have been exceptional under the constraints he has worked under.He is the younger version of NA, no experience in the top flight but getting promotion. I firmly beleive he will become a top PL manager one day and feel we may have missed a top man in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westmidlandsaint Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 "who needs mourinho, we've got scunny's physio" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 (edited) 14 years at one club with minimal expectation, with reputation and stature earnt over years of being part of the furniture. He's never, ever had the experience of driving into a new car park, walking into a new dressing room and saying "I'm in charge now". And he's never dealt with immense pressure on his shoulders at a club with expectation of success that he's going to face with us. Good luck to him, but he isn't the natural choice for me. But then I wasn't convinced by Strachan at point of appointment either, so what do I know. Good luck to him. I can understand that, as that is the risk I see. But at least Adkins had to deal with the step up from physio to manager working and the guy is obviously intelligent enough to work out how to get the best from the team with only a small budget available. For me he's an improvement on Pardew as he doesn't carry any baggage and is from what I've seen and heard is a far better communicator. PS... let's hope he'll be our Owen Coyle - a manager that got Burnley promoted on a shoestring and has changed Bolton style of play and is expected to get them in the top six. Edited 13 September, 2010 by Doctoroncall add a PS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Delighted we now have a manager and now our season can begin. However, running a team on a shoe string, with players that are not well known is a little different to running a team with higher profile players with more ego and earning more money. Will be very interesting to see how the players respond; a good performance and win on Wednesday and the same agian on Saturday will put my mind at rest!! While critically important in the context of aiming for automatic promotion this season, the MOST important wish I have for our next two games is that Adkins watches, analyses, learns and then sorts the team out FAST. I have no doubt whatsoever that the "Squad" will look fantastic, professional and organised on the training ground, and I hope again that Adkins sees something there and shakes it up. The point is, we the fans weren't happy with the start of the season. I have no expectations of amy Magic Wand or New Manager Syndrome in a week, but for somebody to stand there from outside, look at what we have been doing, say WTF, change it, & work on the change. So I hope for a kick up the Buttt in the Mental attitude of the squad by the weekend and some tweaks in tactics/style that show we are changing and that the existing coaching staff aren't standing there saying "No, this is The Southampton Way"................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Very Underwhelmed I am afraid. Not convinced he is the right man for the job. I can understand your reticence, but I really think he will be great for us NOW People are still living in a Dream World that we arestill in the Prem and can attract Prem Managers Adkins is Street Wise for DIVISION ONE, where we are ATM, and knows what is required to get us UP to the CCC When he does that, as he has experience of the CCC, he can consolidate our position there I think, in our present circumstances, he IS pretty much the Best for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 could someone explain to me the Southampton way? I have been going since 68 and the southampton way was , kick the s### out of the oppo by having McGrath O'neill Hollywood and stasy up by the skin of your teeth. In small doses inspire and play some lovely football then go back to dross , still hanging on by the skin of your teeth. it then went from that to worse, plummet through the leagues. In 40 + years of watching Saints i can only recall 2-3 really good seasons of playing silky football that made you really proud. Guesses when on a postcard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nutkins Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Best wishes, Nigel. I hope your best is good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon monkey Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Will Pulis get a chance under Adkins? This will be his 4th manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 So I am one of the 7.93% who thinks this is a disaster for Saints and typically another deal done on the cheap. I'll stick to my prediction that this is a sticking plaster job so that Cortese can tie up all the loos ends before he clears off in January with the club up for sale thereafter. I don't give a monkey's that most of you think I'm a grumpy bastard who is hard to please, this is the worse possible outcome of all the far more exciting options that supposedly were open to us - what happened to the other 49? - in any case I'm not mug enough to keep paying scarce dosh to support this regime any more. I've already posted my request for a refund on my ST for what' s left of this season. I'm out of here and good luck to all of you guys who have been suckered into believing the club bull**** that this was the "best possible appointment". Oh! come on the blokes only been in management for 5 minutes so it is bound to end in tears but then neither Cortese or I will be around to give a ****. Sad day but everything comes to an end... Adieu! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Think its a really good appointment, who knows if we could have got better, but we certainly could have got worse. Not the smoothest piece of recruitment by Cortese and Adkins certainly has a job on his hands getting that squad playing like they can, but I'm certainly positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 could someone explain to me the Southampton way? I have been going since 68 and the southampton way was , kick the s### out of the oppo by having McGrath O'neill Hollywood and stasy up by the skin of your teeth. In small doses inspire and play some lovely football then go back to dross , still hanging on by the skin of your teeth. it then went from that to worse, plummet through the leagues. In 40 + years of watching Saints i can only recall 2-3 really good seasons of playing silky football that made you really proud. Guesses when on a postcard. Sorry mate obviously too subtle.... I hope he comes in sees his first training session and says WTF do you think you are doing? I then hope that "nobody" stands alongside him and says "That Nigel is how we (and you) do things here" The SIGNS of change will show that me that many of the conspiracy fears about interference are less strong than some believe. The next thing I will look for are Loan Signings. He got Cork & the Liverpool lad in at Scunny, something like that level of talent in the next 7 days will show he has vision. We NEVER get NMS, and I saw a pile of sh*t against Rochdale - I want to see that changing and damned fast. He does that and gets results great. Guys - we need to get out of fecking League ONE, let's worry about doing that. I am pretty sure Adkins is smart enough to learn as he goes for the CCC next season and beyond, but NOW - we have signed the best employee for the League that we are IN.. (Remember those PL quality footballers when we were dropping through the CCC? How have our CCC quality players done this season?) Get out this fecking League Nigel - that is all you need to worry about until April/May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 So I am one of the 7.93% who thinks this is a disaster for Saints and typically another deal done on the cheap. I'll stick to my prediction that this is a sticking plaster job so that Cortese can tie up all the loos ends before he clears off in January with the club up for sale thereafter. I don't give a monkey's that most of you think I'm a grumpy bastard who is hard to please, this is the worse possible outcome of all the far more exciting options that supposedly were open to us - what happened to the other 49? - in any case I'm not mug enough to keep paying scarce dosh to support this regime any more. I've already posted my request for a refund on my ST for what' s left of this season. I'm out of here and good luck to all of you guys who have been suckered into believing the club bull**** that this was the "best possible appointment". Oh! come on the blokes only been in management for 5 minutes so it is bound to end in tears but then neither Cortese or I will be around to give a ****. Sad day but everything comes to an end... Adieu! I wish you luck.Are you getting a ticket at the Emirates now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 A N Other Better manager doesn't necessarily mean better for us. NC has chosen what he feels is the best man for the job, for this moment in time, for us. Saying that, I'd still like to know which prem league managers applied. Or could that statement include assistant managers too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Sorry mate obviously too subtle.... I hope he comes in sees his first training session and says WTF do you think you are doing? I then hope that "nobody" stands alongside him and says "That Nigel is how we (and you) do things here" The SIGNS of change will show that me that many of the conspiracy fears about interference are less strong than some believe. The next thing I will look for are Loan Signings. He got Cork & the Liverpool lad in at Scunny, something like that level of talent in the next 7 days will show he has vision. We NEVER get NMS, and I saw a pile of sh*t against Rochdale - I want to see that changing and damned fast. He does that and gets results great. Guys - we need to get out of fecking League ONE, let's worry about doing that. I am pretty sure Adkins is smart enough to learn as he goes for the CCC next season and beyond, but NOW - we have signed the best employee for the League that we are IN.. (Remember those PL quality footballers when we were dropping through the CCC? How have our CCC quality players done this season?) Get out this fecking League Nigel - that is all you need to worry about until April/May Yes we must get out of this league quickly so that any financial advantage we MAY have can be used before the big parachute payments from the PL really kick in and there is no way to compete. I no doubt will back NA to the hilt, but my love of football generally is waning. Long gone is the enthusiasm of turning up to watch my beloved Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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