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Are you happy with the appointment of Nigel Adkins?  

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  1. 1. Are you happy with the appointment of Nigel Adkins?

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dubai_phil

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True and on top of that tomorrows game is a freebie for Nigel to see what we have close hand. Though a win would do me very nicely ta.

 

Well, if what we being led to believe is true regarding fitness levels, and if we are to take the previous performances into account, may I suggest most strongly that some or our travelling hordes take a set of ankle chains to stop him running straight out of the stadium and back home to Humberside screaming?

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Smirking_Saint

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the bad start may turn out to be a blessing in disguise, it has lowered our expectations. if we had been top of the league the pressure from the fans would be pretty intense at present we would take a playoff position. The last third of the season is when we really need to do the business and lets hope the poor start ids then forgotten.

 

Not lowered mine, anything other than promotion is complete failure, we are still well in amoungst it with our game in hand. The only real form team is Carlisle and i can't see them keeping it up all season.

 

Needs to be top two for me, playoffs is too much of a gamble.

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CB Fry

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the bad start may turn out to be a blessing in disguise, it has lowered our expectations. if we had been top of the league the pressure from the fans would be pretty intense at present we would take a playoff position. The last third of the season is when we really need to do the business and lets hope the poor start ids then forgotten.

 

 

And I get accused of posting rubbish. This is utter garbage.

 

Anything other than automatic promotion would be total failure this season. Having a rubbish start to the season doesn't suddenly make having a rubbish rest of the season acceptable.

 

I think the fans would be quite happy with top of the table after a month of the season, and there would be far less pressure than there is now we have wasted games and indeed wasted a perfectly good manager.

 

We have fewer "lives left" than we did on August 1st. Saints have c o cked up royally and the pressure is on. Mr Adkins will be feeling it.

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Smirking_Saint

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And I get accused of posting rubbish. This is utter garbage.

 

Anything other than automatic promotion would be total failure this season. Having a rubbish start to the season doesn't suddenly make having a rubbish rest of the season acceptable.

 

I think the fans would be quite happy with top of the table after a month of the season, and there would be far less pressure than there is now we have wasted games and indeed wasted a perfectly good manager.

 

We have fewer "lives left" than we did on August 1st. Saints have c o cked up royally and the pressure is on. Mr Adkins will be feeling it.

 

Thats because consistantly you do post rubbish.

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saint1977

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And I get accused of posting rubbish. This is utter garbage.

 

Anything other than automatic promotion would be total failure this season. Having a rubbish start to the season doesn't suddenly make having a rubbish rest of the season acceptable.

 

I think the fans would be quite happy with top of the table after a month of the season, and there would be far less pressure than there is now we have wasted games and indeed wasted a perfectly good manager.

 

We have fewer "lives left" than we did on August 1st. Saints have c o cked up royally and the pressure is on. Mr Adkins will be feeling it.

 

Top post and I'm sure NC would agree with it as well. NA is not daft, he'll know that there's no honeymoon period here and that a win is essential and expected at MK. If he doesn't get the right response, watch out, I can see the likes of Puncheon and Hammond playing in L2 out on loan and Lambert dropped until he gets his fitness at an acceptable level. We can't afford to lose any more than about three more games this season so the players are going to have to sort out their own mess. The pressure will still be there and rightly so, their performances and attitude have been abysmal. Apart from those out of contract, the rest can forget about a move if we don't go up (unless we want rid of them), they can stay and put it right as an apology to the fans. The fans feel lukewarm about this team, it's up to the players to change. Winning tomorrow night and V Colchester on Saturday would be a start.

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Saint Charlie

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Top post and I'm sure NC would agree with it as well. NA is not daft, he'll know that there's no honeymoon period here and that a win is essential and expected at MK. If he doesn't get the right response, watch out, I can see the likes of Puncheon and Hammond playing in L2 out on loan and Lambert dropped until he gets his fitness at an acceptable level. We can't afford to lose any more than about three more games this season so the players are going to have to sort out their own mess. The pressure will still be there and rightly so, their performances and attitude have been abysmal. Apart from those out of contract, the rest can forget about a move if we don't go up (unless we want rid of them), they can stay and put it right as an apology to the fans. The fans feel lukewarm about this team, it's up to the players to change. Winning tomorrow night and V Colchester on Saturday would be a start.

 

Bet you £27m that this doesn't happen?

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doddisalegend

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Top post and I'm sure NC would agree with it as well. NA is not daft, he'll know that there's no honeymoon period here and that a win is essential and expected at MK. If he doesn't get the right response, watch out, I can see the likes of Puncheon and Hammond playing in L2 out on loan and Lambert dropped until he gets his fitness at an acceptable level. We can't afford to lose any more than about three more games this season so the players are going to have to sort out their own mess. The pressure will still be there and rightly so, their performances and attitude have been abysmal. Apart from those out of contract, the rest can forget about a move if we don't go up (unless we want rid of them), they can stay and put it right as an apology to the fans. The fans feel lukewarm about this team, it's up to the players to change. Winning tomorrow night and V Colchester on Saturday would be a start.

 

I take it your hoping for a load of loans then or playing members of the devolpment squad? do we have enough cover to drop those three? I suppose Pulis could replace Hammond, Holmes for Puncheon and Doble for Lambert .............

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saint1977

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I take it your hoping for a load of loans then or playing members of the devolpment squad? do we have enough cover to drop those three? I suppose Pulis could replace Hammond, Holmes for Puncheon and Doble for Lambert .............

 

I was thinking more in January if their attitude hasn't bucked up and then we have time to bring in reinforcements beyond loans and free agents. Adkins strikes me as the sort of man that will be patient in the time that players produce improvement for him but will not tolerate billy-big-boy apples in the barrel. Let's just say the unfit had better get fit quickly as I think NC will back his new manager with resources.

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Wes Tender

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And I get accused of posting rubbish. This is utter garbage.

 

Anything other than automatic promotion would be total failure this season. Having a rubbish start to the season doesn't suddenly make having a rubbish rest of the season acceptable.

 

I think the fans would be quite happy with top of the table after a month of the season, and there would be far less pressure than there is now we have wasted games and indeed wasted a perfectly good manager.

 

We have fewer "lives left" than we did on August 1st. Saints have c o cked up royally and the pressure is on. Mr Adkins will be feeling it.

 

Where did Nick say that having a poor start made a rubbish rest of the season acceptable? Most of the more sensible and intelligent fans realise that the season is a marathon, not a sprint. They also realise that it will take a while for the new man to assess what he thinks needs changing and put those changes into effect before we turn things around. You say that Saints have c ocked up royally, but that infers that a decision has been made by the management that is wrong. Now, unless you are privy to the facts behind the dismissal of Pardew, you are not entitled to make that assertion. Along with many others, I have heard something apparently from a good source that leads me to believe that had Pardew remained, the spirit within the team might have suffered. Although I don't give credence to something unsubstantiated, it is however a good example of a circumstance that might challenge your contention that the club have c ocked up royally.

 

Adkins appears to me to be a very level-headed bloke with many good attributes. Yes, I'm sure that he realises that he is under pressure to succeed, but then so is every manager of every team to a greater or lesser extent. But Adkins has the benefit of being at a club way below where it was just a few short years ago, but a club with no financial worries, a good stadium and training facilities and loyal fan base. Therefore if he is confident of his own abilities, which I'm sure he is, the burden of expectation should not weigh too heavily on his shoulders. We have a very decent squad of players who ought to be able to deliver the goods with a bit of motivation, something that Adkins is also apparently qualified to do.

 

I remain unconvinced that Pardew would have done any better than Wilkins after the Bristol Rovers win. For me the key difference was the loss of Lallana and then Barnard, with Lambert off-colour. Barnard is back on Saturday, I believe and that will be a boost. Lambert will improve his fitness with every match. I don't think that we're far off where we should be and a win will boost confidence and self-belief and set us on the right road.

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dubai_phil

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So I am one of the 7.93% who thinks this is a disaster for Saints and typically another deal done on the cheap. I'll stick to my prediction that this is a sticking plaster job so that Cortese can tie up all the loos ends before he clears off in January with the club up for sale thereafter.

 

I don't give a monkey's that most of you think I'm a grumpy bastard who is hard to please, this is the worse possible outcome of all the far more exciting options that supposedly were open to us - what happened to the other 49? - in any case I'm not mug enough to keep paying scarce dosh to support this regime any more. I've already posted my request for a refund on my ST for what' s left of this season.

 

I'm out of here and good luck to all of you guys who have been suckered into believing the club bull**** that this was the "best possible appointment". Oh! come on the blokes only been in management for 5 minutes so it is bound to end in tears but then neither Cortese or I will be around to give a ****.

 

Sad day but everything comes to an end... Adieu!

 

hehehehe

 

By the way - again respect to Alps, he may post all grumpy but he's been pretty well spot on on a lot of things this season such as the Pre-Season and NA's appointment

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Minty

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Wow, that was one hell of a post by Charlie... I'm not one to take any pleasure from it, I think I just feel a bit sorry for him really. The combination of negativity and arrogance that he is right and can't possibly be wrong about Adkins... that takes some doing.

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The9

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Square peg for a round hole IMHO, I hope I'm wrong - but he's going to be used to players who want to prove themselves, not established pros. Should be good for Ox-Cham and probably Mills, but he won't be used to having some of the egos some of our players seem to have unveiled in the past few months.

 

If his motivation and coaching gets them performing though, great. Top 2 is still minimum expectation for a manager with our stable, established squad and the talent they're supposed to have - let's hope he can deliver.

 

Still not wasting my time going to MK though...

 

Right on Ox-Cham, wrong on Mills as far as Saints go, though you could count playing in a higher league on loan as "good for him", and glad I qualified the general "square peg for a round hole" with the stuff about the players needing motivation - which he has certainly provided.

 

"Top 2 minimum expectation" also looks a bit harsh with the hindsight of how well Brighton and Huddersfield have done, but we ARE top 2, and all credit to Adkins for getting us there.

 

Also managed to predict our defeat at MK, which was hardly difficult in the circumstances. :D

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Wes Tender

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I think the fans would be quite happy with top of the table after a month of the season, and there would be far less pressure than there is now we have wasted games and indeed wasted a perfectly good manager.

 

We have fewer "lives left" than we did on August 1st. Saints have c o cked up royally and the pressure is on. Mr Adkins will be feeling it.

 

HaHaHa!

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Minty

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I don't think ripping apart peoples posts from 8 months ago is really going to contribute anything. We've all spouted ******** at one time or another... let's just be happy at the outcome.

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I don't think ripping apart peoples posts from 8 months ago is really going to contribute anything. We've all spouted ******** at one time or another... let's just be happy at the outcome.

 

Yeah, but it's funny! If someone finds something I wrote that was complete nonsense 8 months ago then I'd laugh at it too.

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SNSUN

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I'm in full support of this appointment. I don't know too much about Adkins, askide from his obvious managerial achievements, but it's clear our first team need a captain to steer the ship - we MUST get the team performing again, to a level we all know they can. We need to pick up the few remaining good freebies and/or utilise the loan window to bolster the attack. I hope, and trust, Adkins can see the flaws in our squad and does something about it. Cortese must back his choice with whatever is needed.

 

We're a working progress, I don't expect immediate results on Wednesday, but I would appreciate the team upping their performance in support of their new gaffer. Fingers crossed we can stop the rot that has taken over this club in recent weeks, and move up the table to where we all feel we should be.

 

I was having a "glass half full" day. Which is nice.

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Since seeing S****horpe play here three years ago I have followed Nigel Atkins managing record. For me for the last 18 months he has been the standout overachiever in the lower divisions. Not only is he extremely well qualified, he comes over as highly intelligent. I have hated the sort of narrow crappy hoofball adopted by Pardew and was delighted when he went. I am now looking forward to decent players no longer underperforming in a straitjacket of a team and encouraged to get out and play across the whole pitch. Being an ex goalkeeper I wonder how long it will be before Bart or someone else is brought in or Davis changes his style if he is able to. I am looking forward to going to SMS and seeing a team playing proper football using all the pitch.

 

We all wish for more width but that is not the major problem as we were winning plenty under AP with his game. the difference now is the pace of Antoinio and theunpredictablilty of Waigo is missed. I laugh at the constant dig at KD, you will in time be able to say you are right when a KD makes a gaff (all keepers are prone to it) but go back and look at the match reports over the last 3 seasons and you will see time and again 'fantastic stop by Kelvin' etc etc.

Adding that you were a keeper means nothing, you may be brilliant at it or utter sh## doesn't mean you know the whole game, and if you believe that to be the case, i was a midfielder and attacker and so my thoughts on that override yours.I doubt you would agree in that case though. Paverotti was a wonderful singer, i didn't need to sing at the Albert hall to realise that.

 

Adkins was a goalkeeper, that was the comment, as for Davis he is a shotstopper, but as a goalkeeper he is a bloody nightmare. Doesn't communicate, hardly ever passes short, never comes off his line at corners to help out his defence and seems to have a very fragile confidence threshold. Short term I'd like to see Bart given a go but if he doesn't hack it we'll need to bring one in. Davis is part of the problem not the solution.

 

Ok I didn't get that you meant NA was a keeper.

I still think it is laughable that people say KD is a shotstopper, what the hell is a keeper supposed to be?? We are a third tier football team and have a 2nd tier goalkeeper. Find a good shotstopper, distributor, good on crosses , commands an area and you won't find one in world football. You will find many who can do most things but you wont tick all the boxes. there is not a keeper who hass never made errors and it is a shame that we can't see how good a keeper we have in this league. Personally i think we should be looking for another keeper as time will take its toll and KD should not be our first choice next season. Bart IMo is not the answer but Id be happy for him to have his chance but form the time i met him and other friends have he is too insular and shy to make it to the top, i do hope Im wrong though

 

It looks like Adkins has done a bit more than just manage us to promotion. Although Davis has made one or two crass errors, positional or near post, it looks like Adkins is getting him to do a lot more than he was doing earlier in the season. He throws the odd one out of play but is now passing short to his defenders, he is also relieving pressure by catching some crosses, that together with his excellent shotstopping and accurate long kicking he is a much better keeper than earlier in the season. It is likely that Adkins has been proactive, identifying the weaknesses and getting the coaches to work on improvement rather than trying to bring in a replacement. Having said that I wouldn't be surprised to see Joe Murphy at SMS next season as I think he could be out of contract in the summer.

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CB Fry

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HaHaHa!

 

 

Not really. I notice you're too much of a weasel to quote my entire post.

 

And I get accused of posting rubbish. This is utter garbage.

 

Anything other than automatic promotion would be total failure this season. Having a rubbish start to the season doesn't suddenly make having a rubbish rest of the season acceptable.

 

I think the fans would be quite happy with top of the table after a month of the season, and there would be far less pressure than there is now we have wasted games and indeed wasted a perfectly good manager.

 

We have fewer "lives left" than we did on August 1st. Saints have c o cked up royally and the pressure is on. Mr Adkins will be feeling it.

 

My point all along was that Adkins had to deliver automatic promotion. Anything other than that would have been a failure, and it would have been.

 

Sacking a manager when we did was, and is not, best practice, now is it? It worked, but it doesn't make what I said in mid September 2010 wrong. I was right.

 

We had "wasted games" and that "perfectly good manager" is now two divisions higher and sitting very pretty in the richest league in world football at one of the biggest clubs in the country.

 

We had no "lives left" which is why we had to go on this amazing run to secure promotion.

 

Adkins has done great. Doesn't make our sacking of a manager in Sept 2010 anything other than a co ck up, unless you're recommending doing the same thing next season?

 

"Ha ha" to you, you tedious dweeb.

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sfc4prem

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The timing was poor and cost us alot of potential points. We should have got Adkins in pre-season. Then we'd currently be sitting pretty in 1st now, I'd almost guarantee.

 

It's all water under the bridge now. Pardew is history, we've gone up automatically thanks to Adkins' superb effort, so sit back and enjoy.

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