saintmatt Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 (edited) Great bump! What I hate is that the usual suspects will try to deflect attention from their idiotic posts by saying the person who bumped this is on some sort of told-you-so ego trip! Wake up! It's important to emphasise ignorance in the faint hope the ignorant might learn something!! Edited 1 May, 2012 by saintmatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 Great bump! What I hate is that the usual suspects will try to deflect attention from their idiotic posts by saying the person who bumped this is on some sort of told-you-so ego trip! Wake up! It's importance to emphasise ignorance in the faint hope the ignorant might learn something!! Which in fairness they are....If we'd been relegated rather than promoted this season the other half of the thread would have been on hear saying "see we told you Adkins wasn't up to it" People bump these threads to say "I told you so" and then someone always dresses it up as a learning exercise for the Ignorant..... Hindsight is a wonderful thing (and before you say it other than than my shameful dig at SRL, I took a wait and see attitude to Nigel on this thread) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithd Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 I feel smug, I didnt comment. Win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 Which in fairness they are....If we'd been relegated rather than promoted this season the other half of the thread would have been on hear saying "see we told you Adkins wasn't up to it" People bump these threads to say "I told you so" and then someone always dresses it up as a learning exercise for the Ignorant..... Hindsight is a wonderful thing (and before you say it other than than my shameful dig at SRL, I took a wait and see attitude to Nigel on this thread) its nothing to do with hindsight it happens every year on here....the last two summers in particular in about 2-3 weeks..the usual suspects will be having their hissy fit about the lack of signings..etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 Which in fairness they are....If we'd been relegated rather than promoted this season the other half of the thread would have been on hear saying "see we told you Adkins wasn't up to it" People bump these threads to say "I told you so" and then someone always dresses it up as a learning exercise for the Ignorant..... Hindsight is a wonderful thing (and before you say it other than than my shameful dig at SRL, I took a wait and see attitude to Nigel on this thread) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st.sj Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 I will stand by what i have stated numerous times from the first time his name was linked with the job,Adkins will be a mistake and failure. And i take no pleasure in saying that at all. The whole scenario of 'will he,won't he' is just the start of an embarrassing decline further. Prove me wrong Adkins,i am more than happy to eat my words. The loss of Pardew,for whatever reason,will be felt for seasons to come. Get us out of this league Adkins and you have done nothing more than expected.The expectations at Scunny are nothing like what you will face from either boardroom level or from the fans. Take us forward from there? Shortsighted appointment if ever i saw one. As i say, prove me wrong and i will be elated. What insight, intellect and judgement. Very amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 Yeah you can dress it up anyway you like people like to say "I told you so" and that's what thread bumps are all about.....even if you want to claim they they serve a higher purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 its nothing to do with hindsight it happens every year on here....the last two summers in particular in about 2-3 weeks..the usual suspects will be having their hissy fit about the lack of signings..etc etc Isn't this thread about Nigels appointment? nothing to do with summer transfers is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 Which in fairness they are....If we'd been relegated rather than promoted this season the other half of the thread would have been on hear saying "see we told you Adkins wasn't up to it" People bump these threads to say "I told you so" and then someone always dresses it up as a learning exercise for the Ignorant..... Hindsight is a wonderful thing (and before you say it other than than my shameful dig at SRL, I took a wait and see attitude to Nigel on this thread) Not really. Most people who were optimistic about Adkins appointment didn't make big bold unfounded predictions about him definetly being a success, unlike some who were adament that he would be an unmitigated faliure just because he wasn't a "big name". Big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 Isn't this thread about Nigels appointment? nothing to do with summer transfers is it? just another example...just like the "where is the ambition" thread it will be like clock work by the end of this month...I guarantee it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 Not really. Most people who were optimistic about Adkins appointment didn't make big bold unfounded predictions about him definetly being a success, unlike some who were adament that he would be an unmitigated faliure just because he wasn't a "big name". Big difference. So you don't think if things had been different (ie Nigel had ****ed it up) Saintlard wouldn't have bumped this thread up saying I told you so? The people who bump up old threads are the ones who turned out to be right so they can say "I told you so". I don't think I've seen to many old threads bumped up by people who were being numpties saying look what a prat I made of myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 just another example...just like the "where is the ambition" thread it will be like clock work by the end of this month...I guarantee it Probably but so what? some people are just like that....and if we're relegated next season no doubt they'll bump those threads up to show everyone they were right..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 Ok ok, well done 1976 child and TDD the rest of us are bleeding idiots about football From now on Dellday's word is law! Oi, I got it right too!! I can recall a few "debates" I've had with Lard over Adkins - and much abuse sent in my direction from him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 So you don't think if things had been different (ie Nigel had ****ed it up) Saintlard wouldn't have bumped this thread up saying I told you so? The people who bump up old threads are the ones who turned out to be right so they can say "I told you so". I don't think I've seen to many old threads bumped up by people who were being numpties saying look what a prat I made of myself. Actually I think you're wrong, I've seen quite a bit of that. To be fair to DellDays he's been more than forward in reminding everyone about his pro-Mark Wotte comments. The only people who get upset about these threads being bumped are those who got it wrong and who have either a refusal or an inability to laugh at themselves. Who cares if you made a previous ridiculous prediction, if at least you can have a laugh at yourself for doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 So you don't think if things had been different (ie Nigel had ****ed it up) Saintlard wouldn't have bumped this thread up saying I told you so? The people who bump up old threads are the ones who turned out to be right so they can say "I told you so". I don't think I've seen to many old threads bumped up by people who were being numpties saying look what a prat I made of myself. Possibly would have done but it wouldn't be particulary embarrassing for anyone who was optimistic at the time as I'm sure most people would have acknowledged that it was possible that it might not so according to plan. However, I was willing to support NA and was encouraged by aspects of his CV at the time and there was a lot of support for NA in wider football circles. People like saint lard were never willing to acknowldege that as their beliefs were fuelled by ignorance more than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 What digging up these old threads goes to show - quite unsurprisingly - is that the vast majority of people on this site are completely and utterly clueless when it comes to managers, players, formations, how to run a club etc etc. In other words they know nothing about football. I include myself in that. Very funny indeed some of the cr*p we come out with. We shouldn't be allowed loose on society. Include me in that statement! Yet others called it right. I realise some people will consider me bonkers, but........... I think Adkins has the potential to be more successful than Lawrie Mac! He's achieved miracles at a tiny club, he's very intelligent and has more badges than is actually required I like his interviews too, I imagine he's a great motivator & that's what we need right now Look, he hasn't even f*cking got here yet. Give the bloke a chance. He's got qualifications to manage a football club, more than you can say for most of these ex-England premiership footballers have, a la Shearer. Don't forget that Bates and McMenemy were practically unknown when they started as managers here too. Telegraph journalist told me on twitter: 'Adkins is a good manager, really good. Has always taken an interest in Southampton, went down there when Woodward was there.' Harry Redknapp also referenced him as being one of the most intelligent managers around the other day. As for his interview, the perceived waffle is due to the nature of the current situation, which isn't easy for him. He seems a very principled man. Even this fella! I think he'll do well, but it's going to be a tough job turning this season around the way it's going. Meanwhile, there's those who didn't. I will stand by what i have stated numerous times from the first time his name was linked with the job,Adkins will be a mistake and failure. And i take no pleasure in saying that at all. The whole scenario of 'will he,won't he' is just the start of an embarrassing decline further. Prove me wrong Adkins,i am more than happy to eat my words. The loss of Pardew,for whatever reason,will be felt for seasons to come. Get us out of this league Adkins and you have done nothing more than expected.The expectations at Scunny are nothing like what you will face from either boardroom level or from the fans. Take us forward from there? Shortsighted appointment if ever i saw one. As i say, prove me wrong and i will be elated. For once I agree with you totally CBFRY, we need a big name manager. Gordon Strachan ? Just Who The Feck Is Laughing Now? Never mind, onward and upward! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 I'm very much looking forward to him. Think his style of play will be a breath of fresh air. Told you so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 It's amazing as some of the same people who about six weeks ago, when criticism was made of the way we were carrying out our pre season, were putting down those posters with comments along the lines of the pre season doesn't matter, or we'll walk this league. Now some of those same people are talking down one of the most qualified and successful in real terms managers that has managed to over achieve in his last job. I hope their judgement continues to be as flawed in this as it was during pre season. To be fair at the time few people had been aware of Adkins. I became aware of him the season S****horpe came to SMS and lost with the young Jack Cork on loan. They played some lovely football but weren't strong enough. After that I kept an eye on S****horpe. There were three managers on my wish list at the time that managed footballing teams. Adkins was followed closely by Lee Clark and Sean O'Driscoll and then Eddie Howe came out of left field. make four. Adkins has done massively well but has proved to be much more pragmatic than I thought he would be. I thought that the beautiful game would come first and results would be subject to that. He has proved to be immensely professional and much more safety first than I thought he would be. We are in good hands. Even if we come back down again I wouldn't want a change. Having said that I don't think we will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 Blimey, my posts were good Seriously though, the initial reactions to Adkins were moronic. I bet you my bottom dollar that if we had gone for this ''MASSIVE NAME'' that many craved, we wouldn't have done as well. Just my thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 Shocked I didn't have something to say about this the first time around, so can someone bump one of the other threads where I was concerned that he won't be able to attract players who haven't played for him already by the time we get to the Prem ? I'm a little less worried about it now, but it's still a little bit of a worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 Blimey, my posts were good Seriously though, the initial reactions to Adkins were moronic. I bet you my bottom dollar that if we had gone for this ''MASSIVE NAME'' that many craved, we wouldn't have done as well. Just my thought. To be fair, we couldn't have done that much better in 20 ridiculous months - but there were plenty who didn't want a name for a name's sake as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 It's a shame he doesn't have a track record of getting out of this (or any) division with tons of resources, a squad packed with stars and a massive weight of expectation from one of the biggest fan bases in the football league. He doesn't even have a track record of walking into a club, shaking it up and reviving it. He's only ever worked at one league football club and that's been for 14 years where he's been part of the furniture and in an unquestioned position of respect/authority built on years of service. He simply won't have that at St Mary's. We'll see how he goes, but I don't think he is the perfect fit some are making out. Massive, massive gamble IMO. I see my old chum Dalek quoted me above. Here's what I wrote at the time. Happy with it. My main worry was his lack of experience of walking into a new club and being "the man", rather than him not being a big name which I was not saying. Thought it was a big, big gamble at the time and I still do. Turns out we rolled a six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 Actually I think you're wrong, I've seen quite a bit of that. To be fair to DellDays he's been more than forward in reminding everyone about his pro-Mark Wotte comments. The only people who get upset about these threads being bumped are those who got it wrong and who have either a refusal or an inability to laugh at themselves. Who cares if you made a previous ridiculous prediction, if at least you can have a laugh at yourself for doing so. I'm not bothered (other than complaining about rickies goal scoring I stand by everything else I wrote on this thread)...but people complain about certain posters (we all know which ones) then they drag up their old threads.... personally I thinks it's better to let sleeping trolls lie rather than poke them with sticks. Personally If I'm right about something, not often granted, I can just quitely be chuffed about it. Only my wife feels the need to drag up old arguments to prove a point.....but hey what ever floats peoples boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 1 May, 2012 Share Posted 1 May, 2012 I predict back to back promotions! Back in the prem in under 2 years! Oh la la Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 (edited) Credit to NA side kicks Mr Andy Crosby and Mr Dean Wilkins Well done all the Management staff Edited 2 May, 2012 by ottery st mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 I was bloody good on this thread......even if I do say so myself. Saint Lard - give me my prize!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 He will be an unmitigated failure,if not in the short term,in the long term. Agreed. So... The charming man, dresses the right way, sings the right songs, but actually knows foooooooooook all about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 We will win promotion this year (2nd place to Brighton though) with 90+ points and then we will win promotion to the EPL next year having been in the top 2 all season. Adkins will be seen as a LegEnd by Saints fans, despite some rather bland post match interviews.Awesome stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 I realise some people will consider me bonkers, but........... I think Adkins has the potential to be more successful than Lawrie Mac! He's achieved miracles at a tiny club, he's very intelligent and has more badges than is actually required I like his interviews too, I imagine he's a great motivator & that's what we need right now Could anyone have got it more spot on than you? Amazing hindsight or a total fluke, it's eerie how true this all was/is. If you are seriously looking at todays match stats to select our new manager then Tisdale stands out: Exeter today,away at Hartlepool.2-1 down at halftime,come back to win 3-2. From the BBC they had 32% possession,and 5 shots on target. As you say however,whoever comes in will need time to turn it round.Although a KK or MON might have an immediate impact they are no longer - if indeed they ever were - under consideration. I like Tisdale, and who's to say he wouldn't have done better at a bigger club, but Exeter are on the slide to League Two. (Albeit they're standing by him for now...) We're not S****horpe. HTH. Put it this way - it can't get much worse... We hit rock bottom and it only got better from thereon in. So yay for me. I will stand by what i have stated numerous times from the first time his name was linked with the job,Adkins will be a mistake and failure. And i take no pleasure in saying that at all. The whole scenario of 'will he,won't he' is just the start of an embarrassing decline further. Prove me wrong Adkins,i am more than happy to eat my words. The loss of Pardew,for whatever reason,will be felt for seasons to come. Get us out of this league Adkins and you have done nothing more than expected.The expectations at Scunny are nothing like what you will face from either boardroom level or from the fans. Take us forward from there? Shortsighted appointment if ever i saw one. As i say, prove me wrong and i will be elated. I'm not going to have a dig about this post, but what I have to say about it is it is exactly what a journalist on TalkSport said about Roy Hodgson yesterday. He's already written off Hodgson as a complete failure - even to the point when the presenter asked him if he's eat his words if England won anything or got close, and the journalist said he wouldn't have to, because England wouldn't under Hodgson. Closemindedness. Hodgson may be exactly what england needs, just as Adkins was exactly what Southampton needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 It's fair to say that Shroppie has been saying all day that he continues to believe, it's fair to say, that Mr Adkins would be a fantastic choice for our fantastic club. Think that's fair to say. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 2 May, 2012 Author Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Of course the kiddies who love to pick fault in others NEVER get anything wrong! Classic. LOL Delldays: "Time to accept it is unlikely we will go up" http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?25290-Time-to-accept-that-it-is-unlikely-we-will-go-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Of course the kiddies who love to pick fault in others NEVER get anything wrong! Classic. LOL Delldays: "Time to accept it is unlikely we will go up" http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?25290-Time-to-accept-that-it-is-unlikely-we-will-go-up I know, I laugh at my posts like that more than anyone.. the best one was.... "mark wotte will keep us up" will never forget that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Of course the kiddies who love to pick fault in others NEVER get anything wrong! Classic. LOL Delldays: "Time to accept it is unlikely we will go up" http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?25290-Time-to-accept-that-it-is-unlikely-we-will-go-up That thread is such a great read, as after that MK Dons game it all looked so far away. To quote me.... We're only just in September but we can really only realistically have 4/5 more defeats all season if we want a top 2 finish. We're going to need some never seen run of from from a Southampton side to even get close. Amazingly , that's what happened. It was a run of form which I've never experienced as a Saints fan. 5 year plan? We are in year 2 and look like being stuck in L1. This 5 year plan looks unachievable. We're now well ahead of schedule. To me this just shows what an amazing Job NA has done. From being in the doldrums and losing to MkDons, we were 13 or 14 points off the top 2. Now we're in the premier league. Astonishing what he's done for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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