Nigel Adkins will take charge of S****horpe United's match tomorrow

[trousers]

http://www.thisiss****horpe.co.uk/sport/Cliff-Byrne-expects-Nigel-Adkins-charge-S****horpe-United-s-match-tomorrow/article-2630533-detail/article.html

[trousers]

WTF?

 

Should say:

Nigel Adkins will take charge of S****horpe United's match tomorrow

[trousers]

NIGEL Adkins will take charge of S****horpe United's home match with Bristol City tomorrow, the Telegraph has learned.

 

The 45-year-old took Iron training this morning, despite the uncertainty surrounding his future.

 

Southampton want to make Adkins their new manager - with the matter of compensation seemingly the only thing holding up his switch to the south coast.

 

But the on-off move, at the moment, will not be settled before the weekend.

 

"We just trained as normal this morning," skipper Cliff Byrne exclusively told the Telegraph this lunchtime.

 

"It's been routine Friday training session in preparation for a big game tomorrow.

 

"The manaer was there, bright and bubbly as normal. The manager stated the facts yesterday morning and nothing has changed as far as I know.

 

"I very much think he will be in charge for the Bristol City game. He didn't give us any information to suggest that he wouldn't be."

[smithy]

Oh well, another defeat it is then.

[buctootim]

Nigel Adkins has agreed to speak to the Telegraph this afternoon. For a full audio file of this interview, keep checking http://www.thisiss****horpe.co.uk this afternoon.

[trousers]

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[buctootim]

Post on the Scunny Forum. Harsh but it does have some truth about it.

 

"Values & principals? I'm not too keen on people stating that they are a principalled person, let your actions speak. Nice, naive Nige has got a job with a bigger, nastier club, good for him (although I don't think it will be good for him) You cannot work for 2 masters, one or the other. Nige lives in a fluffy world where he thinks everyone shares his views. He will very soon be introduced to reality. Expecting to manage a club for one last game, with a backslapping send off is cuckoo land nonsense."

Edited 10 September, 2010 by buctootim

[trousers]

Another Adkins thread - FFS

 

Ooops....

[Doctoroncall]

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Edited 10 September, 2010 by Doctoroncall
trying different style link... fed up having to type **** but didn't work!

[buctootim]

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Is that your professional opinion? I'd expect more than that on BUPA.

[Wopper]

Dump the bloke hes f*cking us about.

[buctootim]

Dump the bloke hes f*cking us about.

 

Not yet. But if he isnt in place to take training on Monday, I agree. Prolonging it is in neither clubs interests - and I blame Scunny's Chairman for that, not him or Saints.

[Appy]

Dump the bloke hes f*cking us about.

 

How is he? All is agreed except compensation. Which he has nothing to do with.

[Doctoroncall]

Is that your professional opinion? I'd expect more than that on BUPA.

 

I'm liking you more everytime you post and I'm now honour you're taking the **** out of me ;-)

[Badger]

Wonder what sort of reception he'll get tomorrow.

 

Would not be surprised for it to be finalised tonight, or for him to 'not be at the ground' tomorrow.All in all,its a fiasco and one which might have been avoided if people had kept their traps shut, especially in Humberside.

[The9]

Post on the Scunny Forum. Harsh but it does have some truth about it.

 

"Values & principals? I'm not too keen on people stating that they are a principalled person, let your actions speak. Nice, naive Nige has got a job with a bigger, nastier club, good for him (although I don't think it will be good for him) You cannot work for 2 masters, one or the other. Nige lives in a fluffy world where he thinks everyone shares his views. He will very soon be introduced to reality. Expecting to manage a club for one last game, with a backslapping send off is cuckoo land nonsense."

 

Dunno why the guy wants to debate who's first, the primary object - or a school head teacher. What's "principals" got to do with it ?

 

Adkins is Scvnthorpe manager until he isn't, and there's no reason for them to think he's going to leave... according to the Saints OS, anyway. .

 

Wharton could have put him on gardening leave, but is obviously still hopeful he won't get the Saints job and will be able to carry on as normal, and his compensation is going to have plenty to do with that.

 

I happen to think Adkins has shown himself to be very principled in not just resigning to ensure Scvnthorpe get the appropriate compensation and continuing with his everyday duties at his current club. But if he isn't staying, he is asking for trouble appearing in public in front of the Scunny fans, who might appreciate the last 4 years but probably don't appreciate the last 4 days.

 

Also FWIW, we knew there would be no manager by Saturday the second Wilkins was in the headline of Saturday's preview on the OS.

[saint lard]

let him take charge of scunny untill the end of the season is fine by me.

If he really wanted to be here he would be by now.

is the delay because he wants a last hoorah on saturday with scunny aswell as the compensation issue.

perhaps he wants an open top bus parade to take the plaudits from there fans.

[lordswoodsaints]

I think Adkins is walking a very fine line,he is sitting on the fence and hedging his bets,he is showing no loyalty to either the scunny fans nor us.

Fans are not stupid,the scunny fans will turn on him if he's not careful.....as for us lot,well he is not our manager yet but if it happens then a few will question his focus on the job.

The situation may not be of his doing but he is not helping his cause with any sets of fans IMO.

[Flyer]

I just found out the 2 prem managers who applied were Holloway and Grant (may have been discussed before) but I dont see them arriving even if they are chosen. If compensation cant be agreed with Scunny, theres no way the proper amount will be agreed with a prem team.

[trousers]

I just found out the 2 prem managers who applied were Holloway and Grant (may have been discussed before) but I dont see them arriving even if they are chosen. If compensation cant be agreed with Scunny, theres no way the proper amount will be agreed with a prem team.

 

Would have taken Holloway....not that he would have fitted in with Cortese in any shape or form!

[The Kraken]

I just found out the 2 prem managers who applied were Holloway and Grant (may have been discussed before) but I dont see them arriving even if they are chosen. If compensation cant be agreed with Scunny, theres no way the proper amount will be agreed with a prem team.

 

I thought it was only one?

 

And personally I can't see what either of them would have to gain from jumping ship and coming to manage us.

[Professor]

After the fiasco of Hoddle and Rednapp leaving for other clubs, Rupert Lowe took a position that he would not poach another club's manager. Whether you agreed with that or not, this week has shown that there is a lot to be said for limiting the appointment to someone not currently in a manager's chair, or at least someone who is free to take up the job if offered, and there are plenty of them.

 

Maybe that should have been the first question:- "if we were to offer you the job, would you accept and would there be any issue over your resignation from your current job?

[Badger]

After the fiasco of Hoddle and Rednapp leaving for other clubs, Rupert Lowe took a position that he would not poach another club's manager. Whether you agreed with that or not, this week has shown that there is a lot to be said for limiting the appointment to someone not currently in a manager's chair, or at least someone who is free to take up the job if offered, and there are plenty of them.

 

Maybe that should have been the first question:- "if we were to offer you the job, would you accept and would there be any issue over your resignation from your current job?

 

or to have agreed compensation before holding discussions.

[SaintRichmond]

After the fiasco of Hoddle and Rednapp leaving for other clubs, Rupert Lowe took a position that he would not poach another club's manager. Whether you agreed with that or not, this week has shown that there is a lot to be said for limiting the appointment to someone not currently in a manager's chair, or at least someone who is free to take up the job if offered, and there are plenty of them.

 

Maybe that should have been the first question:- "if we were to offer you the job, would you accept and would there be any issue over your resignation from your current job?

 

 

Surely the first question tho address is WHY are they unemployed ???

 

It's usually because they have FAILED in their previous Managership

[jasonb]

Last edited by Doctoroncall; Today at 02:21 PM. Reason: trying different style link... fed up having to type **** but didn't work!

 

http://bit.ly/4tzPRn

 

Using bit.ly you can shorten links... it's not very descriptive though so perhaps not that informative... it does negate the need to type in c u n t into the URL tho.

Edited 10 September, 2010 by jasonb

[Pancake]

It's usually because they have FAILED in their previous Managership

 

Like Gordon Strachan and Alan Pardew? Yeah, that works.... doofus.

[Armitage Shanks]

After the fiasco of Hoddle and Rednapp leaving for other clubs, Rupert Lowe took a position that he would not poach another club's manager. Whether you agreed with that or not, this week has shown that there is a lot to be said for limiting the appointment to someone not currently in a manager's chair, or at least someone who is free to take up the job if offered, and there are plenty of them.

 

Maybe that should have been the first question:- "if we were to offer you the job, would you accept and would there be any issue over your resignation from your current job?

 

How do you know that wasn't the first question and Adkins said it would be fine?

[lordswoodsaints]

After the fiasco of Hoddle and Rednapp leaving for other clubs, Rupert Lowe took a position that he would not poach another club's manager. Whether you agreed with that or not, this week has shown that there is a lot to be said for limiting the appointment to someone not currently in a manager's chair, or at least someone who is free to take up the job if offered, and there are plenty of them.

 

Maybe that should have been the first question:- "if we were to offer you the job, would you accept and would there be any issue over your resignation from your current job?

 

I'm with this,I did mention the same thing on another thread yesterday.

There are plenty of capable managers out there who are unemployed......and unemployed doesn't indicate failure as some have stated,every manager at some point has 'failed',there aren't many that havnt.

[Topcat]

After the fiasco of Hoddle and Rednapp leaving for other clubs, Rupert Lowe took a position that he would not poach another club's manager. Whether you agreed with that or not, this week has shown that there is a lot to be said for limiting the appointment to someone not currently in a manager's chair, or at least someone who is free to take up the job if offered, and there are plenty of them.

 

So why did he then hire Portaloo who was employed at another Club?

[Charlie Wayman]

Oh well, another defeat it is then.

 

You said it. They whacked us 3-0 at home so could be a drubbing up there.

[Badger]

http://bit.ly/4tzPRn

 

Using bit.ly you can shorten links... it's not very descriptive though so perhaps not that informative... it does negate the need to type in c u n t into the URL tho.

 

Story largely based on an interview with one of their players.

[SaintRichmond]

Like Gordon Strachan and Alan Pardew? Yeah, that works.... doofus.

 

I did put "usually", pity you couldn't be bothered to read it

[gonzo]

I'm starting to think there's a lot more to this, call it smoke and mirrors if you like.

 

But, if Cortese wanted Adkins that badly then I'm sure compensation discussions wouldn't have dragged on for as long as they have.

 

We have the funds. and apparently Scunny only wanted a modest amount for him - he's only on a 12 month rolling.contract and they settled for less than £100k for Laws when Wednesday poached him, and Laws was held oin similar regard as Adkins up there.

 

This is just a hunch on my part, but these compensation discussions could be now getting dragged on to divert attention away from another manager that Cortese is negotiating with. I don't know who that could be and I'm not going to speculate. And like I said, I'm not basing this on anything I've heard, just gut feeling. We do however know that he's spoken to other managers because of the total lack of discretion from Bournemouth's chairman.

 

I think the twists in the whole saga aren't yet over, and my gut feeling tells me that we may be surprised when the new manager is unveiled.

 

Of course, I could be talking out of my arse and we'll see Adkins unveiled on Monday.

[Ian the Red]

Move onto another manager. If he wanted to come here he should have resigned and we would have to pay the due compensation, ie the net worth of his contract. The problem appears to be that the greedy scunny chairman wants more and NA seems to go along with that; so where is his loyalty? Not with SFC. Move on.

[SaintRichmond]

These comments are amazing. If he really wanted to be here? Besides agreeing terms and waiting for compensation to be agreed?

 

Jesus ****ing christ.

 

Even so, if it were me, I would not be too impressed if my Chairman went out of his way to scupper a move to a Club with much more potential

[Dr Who?]

I'm starting to think there's a lot more to this, call it smoke and mirrors if you like.

 

But, if Cortese wanted Adkins that badly then I'm sure compensation discussions wouldn't have dragged on for as long as they have.

 

We have the funds. and apparently Scunny only wanted a modest amount for him - he's only on a 12 month rolling.contract and they settled for less than £100k for Laws when Wednesday poached him, and Laws was held oin similar regard as Adkins up there.

 

This is just a hunch on my part, but these compensation discussions could be now getting dragged on to divert attention away from another manager that Cortese is negotiating with. I don't know who that could be and I'm not going to speculate. And like I said, I'm not basing this on anything I've heard, just gut feeling. We do however know that he's spoken to other managers because of the total lack of discretion from Bournemouth's chairman.

 

I think the twists in the whole saga aren't yet over, and my gut feeling tells me that we may be surprised when the new manager is unveiled.

 

Of course, I could be talking out of my arse and we'll see Adkins unveiled on Monday.

 

I think you are right. Could Scunny not get hold of NC yesterday? dragging is not the word as £100k is nothing to SFC at this moment in time.

[Dr Who?]

Heeeeeeerrrrrrreeeeee ccccccoooooommmmmmmmeeeeeeee Hoddle!! JOKING!!

[martel]

i think you are right. Could scunny not get hold of nc yesterday? Dragging is not the word as £100k is nothing to sfc at this moment in time.

 

ditto

[moonraker]

If the statement above reference Holloway is true I for one would be very happy if he still in the running and gets the job.

[wild-saint]

http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=460&fid=12&sty=2&act=1&mid=2120201811

 

The s****horpe site seems to think that a deal is done and NA will leave scunny after the match tomorrow. I guess thats no real suprise if true.

[Badger]

I'm starting to think there's a lot more to this, call it smoke and mirrors if you like.

 

But, if Cortese wanted Adkins that badly then I'm sure compensation discussions wouldn't have dragged on for as long as they have.

 

We have the funds. and apparently Scunny only wanted a modest amount for him - he's only on a 12 month rolling.contract and they settled for less than £100k for Laws when Wednesday poached him, and Laws was held oin similar regard as Adkins up there.

 

This is just a hunch on my part, but these compensation discussions could be now getting dragged on to divert attention away from another manager that Cortese is negotiating with. I don't know who that could be and I'm not going to speculate. And like I said, I'm not basing this on anything I've heard, just gut feeling. We do however know that he's spoken to other managers because of the total lack of discretion from Bournemouth's chairman.

 

I think the twists in the whole saga aren't yet over, and my gut feeling tells me that we may be surprised when the new manager is unveiled.

 

Of course, I could be talking out of my arse and we'll see Adkins unveiled on Monday.

 

Inclined to agree.

 

If there is not a late night announcement of NA coming tonight then I would not be surprised if it never happens.Onr thing though, we won't have to wait for 2325hrs as we know some 'sc^nt' in svaginathorpe will foghorn it to the media with indecent haste.

[Dr Who?]

http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=460&fid=12&sty=2&act=1&mid=2120201811

 

The s****horpe site seems to think that a deal is done and NA will leave scunny after the match tomorrow. I guess thats no real suprise if true.

 

All seems a little bit non professional football these days. Normally if a manager wants out then letting them near the team for one last game does not happen? Something just does not sit right with me on this deal anymore!

[Badger]

All seems a little bit non professional football these days. Normally if a manager wants out then letting them near the team for one last game does not happen? Something just does not sit right with me on this deal anymore!

 

O'Driscoll managed a last home game for Bournemouth after it was announced he was off to Doncaster and he received a standing ovation as I remember.However that deal was certainly conducted with a lot more privacy and dignity than this episode,

[Alain Perrin]

I think this Twitter from FootballAgent46 may be relevant:

 

"After all week on the south coast doing various I'm on M1 heading north to get things done. I hoped for break after the window shut " about 5 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

 

I wonder if he is Adkins agent. He seemed in the know about Adkins being one of the final two. He also posted about something breaking down 'out of [his] control' yesterday about the time it all was up in the air.....

[buctootim]

Adkins interview here

http://www.thisiss****horpe.co.uk/s****horpeunitednews/AUDIO-Adkins-confirms-charge-Iron-Bristol-City-clash/article-2630743-detail/article.html

 

Avoids answering Saints related questions, but fits in with earlier post that he willjoin Saints after tomorrows game imo.

Edited 10 September, 2010 by buctootim

[Dr Who?]

I think this Twitter from FootballAgent46 may be relevant:

 

"After all week on the south coast doing various I'm on M1 heading north to get things done. I hoped for break after the window shut " about 5 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

 

I wonder if he is Adkins agent. He seemed in the know about Adkins being one of the final two. He also posted about something breaking down 'out of [his] control' yesterday about the time it all was up in the air.....

 

If the manager has agreed terms and is ready to come and join SFC surely his agent is not needed to sort out what we need to pay Scunny? The agent will be needed if their are still issues to sort out with Adkins and sfc with regards to his contract? This worries me even more about the deal.

[Dr Who?]

Adkins interview here

http://www.thisiss****horpe.co.uk/s****horpeunitednews/AUDIO-Adkins-confirms-charge-Iron-Bristol-City-clash/article-2630743-detail/article.html

 

Avoids answering Saints related questions, but fits in with earlier post that he willjoin Saints after tomorrows game imo.

 

After listening to that I think it is far to say that HE thinkis he is on his way, but does NC have some kind of ace up his sleeve. As we know what has happened this week is NOT the way that NC conducts his business.

[Topcat]

After listening to that I think it is far to say that HE thinkis he is on his way, but does NC have some kind of ace up his sleeve. As we know what has happened this week is NOT the way that NC conducts his business.

 

What is the way Cortese conducts business?

 

Bans photographers, bans the Echo, bans ex Saints from freebie tickets, bans Trust Chairman from buying a ST, bans an installment plan for STs.

[Village Saint]

Like Gordon Strachan and Alan Pardew? Yeah, that works.... doofus.

 

Actually it is pretty well ALWAYS because they failed in their previous jobs indeed - exactly like both Strachan and Pardew before they joined us.

 

A lot of c£$p has been talked about the difficulties over the Adkins appointment. So far there haven't really been any. Saints have interviewed a few managers. They offered the job to Adkins and almost certainly no-one else (he would certainly always have been my first choice - given that MON was never coming here). At that point compensation had to be agreed (no point in agreeing it before offering the job as their were too many being interviewed). No doubt his current Chairman is making a last ditch effort to get him to stay; he might even be swayed. We will find out in due course. Very straight forward and sensible behaviour by all parties but not instant enough for the 10 second concentration span generation and also not something that wouldn't make a good story in the papers or even on this board hence all the silly stories; pretend controversies.

[SaintRichmond]

No definitely. But that's not the same as Adkins not wanting to come here enough is it. I think his chairman wanted him to stay, understandably, and hasn't gone about it in the best way. But to be fair to him, not through greed, just wanting to do the best for his club, keep a good manager or give them enough compensation to get a good replacement. They're a good club and it can't feel great having such a good manager poached.

 

I'd be more worried if we were in for a manager and the chairman/fans said 'yeah, please, all yours'.

 

You know, like our reaction about Burley when Scotland came knocking! LOL.

 

I know exactly what you mean

 

I did my Achilles in rushing a copy of the train times to him