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Bwanamakubwa

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My god....

 

So we hear this morning Adkins has been approached about the job, then the chairman releases a statement saying hte offer is withdrawn and mayhem ensues. Sky (who reported we had approached Paul Hart) and the BBC release articles based on the Scunny chairmans statement, only hang on, the offer was never withdrawn. Saints tell us that, it is then confirmed by Adkins himself in a press conference.

 

A few hours later a similar thing happens, and the Bmouth chairman comes out with a load of stuff, Sky report it, BBC reports it. Having incorrectly reported earlier in the day we believe.... SKY AND THE BBC?!?!? WHY?

 

Here is what I know: Nothing. The same as the press. The same as everyone else on this board. We line up a host of managers, interview them all, and have 2-3 options. We will only know who the manager is when it is released on the saints website! As we have been told numerous times before - we may not like it but it seems its the way of saints now.

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Bwanamakubwa

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http://tiny.cc/3ggxf

 

The linked article above suggests he is staying put - dated 20.10 tonight if you look under the header. It's from the Scunny website, I've tiny url'd it so it doesn't get blocked by the swear filter.

 

Posted on their website around 10am this morning, lots happened since then. Not least his very own Press conference.

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Cortese has not made this easy on himself. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt with the whole match photos thing, a little pointless but not particularly important in the long run. I was particularly unhappy that he sacked Pardew, but there were rumours that it was not football related, and therefore I continued to support him since it would have been very harsh to criticise him if he really had no choice in the matter. But I'm starting to think he's made a real pig's ear of appointing the new boss, these stories don't just come from nowhere. I don't think I've ever seen a messier path to appointing a new boss.

 

 

All will be forgiven if we are promoted.

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the saint in winchester

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So Adkins was offered the job yesterday? He accepted, subject to compensation being agreed.

At some point today, we offered the job to Eddie Howe (it seems). He turned it down today (per reports).

 

This could go t1ts-up, if Adkins get the hump and feels shafted. We need .. I say 'we' ... obviously, the Club ... needs to close a deal with someone soon, or else could find more managers not prepared to take a job that has been touted and offered to others.

Hopefully tomorrow this will all get resolved.

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Norm

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Some good spin you've got going here!

 

Obviously just speculation, but many people in all walks of life sometimes go to interviews out of interest, with no real thought of taking the job if offered. He could easily have just gone along to take a look at the set up down your way.

 

Or he could have decided against the idea of your Director Of Football set-up, who knows, but he's well within his rights to learn more about the club and position before rejecting it. One thing for sure though, he doesn't need to save face with us.

 

 

 

 

Fair comment, in my eyes.

 

The BBC report that Howe WAS offered the job at the interview held this morning. They quote the B'mouth chairman. Perhaps Howe turned us down after hearing what NC had to say and just felt he a, was better staying where he was or b, he did not like what he heard. Who knows. What on earth is going on?

 

Roll on Saturday and we get back to sanity and a game of football.

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mack rill

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He would have doubled his wages what a mug.

 

That may be true But! with your recent track record his contract would be printed on the back of a P45.

In Bournemouth he has god like status, In the Team on the south coast one mistake and the pilgrims at St Faeries would tear him another arshole,

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My god....

 

So we hear this morning Adkins has been approached about the job, then the chairman releases a statement saying hte offer is withdrawn and mayhem ensues. Sky (who reported we had approached Paul Hart) and the BBC release articles based on the Scunny chairmans statement, only hang on, the offer was never withdrawn. Saints tell us that, it is then confirmed by Adkins himself in a press conference.

 

A few hours later a similar thing happens, and the Bmouth chairman comes out with a load of stuff, Sky report it, BBC reports it. Having incorrectly reported earlier in the day we believe.... SKY AND THE BBC?!?!? WHY?

 

Here is what I know: Nothing. The same as the press. The same as everyone else on this board. We line up a host of managers, interview them all, and have 2-3 options. We will only know who the manager is when it is released on the saints website! As we have been told numerous times before - we may not like it but it seems its the way of saints now.

 

spot on

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Give it to Ron

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That may be true But! with your recent track record his contract would be printed on the back of a P45.

In Bournemouth he has god like status, In the Team on the south coast one mistake and the pilgrims at St Faeries would tear him another arshole,

 

Um would you like to read this Mr Glasshouse??

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portsmouth_F.C.#Managers

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Seems to me like the job was offered to Adkins, Howe was rung and told the Adkins deal might not go through and would he be on standby as second place. Howe probably said no. I've been there, had an interview, done really well only to be told there was someone more qualified but I'm second in their thoughts and if the other person rejected the job would I like it? Unfortunately the other person got the job.

 

Seems like that's whats happened here to me.

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My god....

 

So we hear this morning Adkins has been approached about the job, then the chairman releases a statement saying hte offer is withdrawn and mayhem ensues. Sky (who reported we had approached Paul Hart) and the BBC release articles based on the Scunny chairmans statement, only hang on, the offer was never withdrawn. Saints tell us that, it is then confirmed by Adkins himself in a press conference.

 

A few hours later a similar thing happens, and the Bmouth chairman comes out with a load of stuff, Sky report it, BBC reports it. Having incorrectly reported earlier in the day we believe.... SKY AND THE BBC?!?!? WHY?

 

Here is what I know: Nothing. The same as the press. The same as everyone else on this board. We line up a host of managers, interview them all, and have 2-3 options. We will only know who the manager is when it is released on the saints website! As we have been told numerous times before - we may not like it but it seems its the way of saints now.

 

 

This. Personally I'm quite encouraged that the people 'throwing buns' are from the other clubs involved, whilst we maintain dignity.

 

Nice also to see a few Cherries fans here tonight - welcome to you all, good luck for the season - any recent sightings (news of) our mutual friend LLS/LLC aka Mr Marc(k) Jackson...?

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Just remember where the News comes from. It's always the Chairmen of the clubs involved never the candidate. Of course they would say what they do. They have big egos so I am not surprised. If Howe did not want the job he would have not bothered with the interview. We probably turned him down and his Chairman would not admit it.

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The Bournemouth chairman was interviewed live on ssn.

 

He said howe was offered this am & he turned it down.

 

why would he lie?

 

This would be the same Bournemouth chairman who virtually invited Saints to come and get Howe.

 

After flogging Brett Pitman, Mitchell probably saw another payday with the compo from Saints as just what is needed to pay off some other Bournemouth directors who are getting very itchy for repayment of loans they made to the club.

 

Looks like it could be more a case of the Bournemouth chairman needing to save a bit of face as opposed to Howe.

 

He probably needed to do some major climbing down after his clumsy attempt to offload Howe on Saints. How wanted and loved do you think Howe now feels working for a chairman who was quite prepared to cash in on him. Aren't chairmen normally supposed to put up a token defence line of: "Our manager is not going anywhere, and we will refuse any club permission to talk to him.."

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I heard what Mr 'motormouth' Mitchell said in SSN and it was categorically that Howe was interviewed and offered the job but turned it down. This is probably only partly true and seems to vary with the Adkins interview on BBC Humberside which I listened to as well. True or not none of this makes SFC look very good and this may have been Mitchell's intention.

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I heard what Mr 'motormouth' Mitchell said in SSN and it was categorically that Howe was interviewed and offered the job but turned it down. This is probably only partly true and seems to vary with the Adkins interview on BBC Humberside which I listened to as well. True or not none of this makes SFC look very good and this may have been Mitchell's intention.

 

NC: Thankyou for coming to the interview, we like what you have to say, and you are certainly the type of manager we are looking to employ. We will be in touch very soon.

 

EH leaves the room and thinks about things - he's 32 and has had sucess working at a low profile club with lots of young players - this is a massive jump up to a high profile club with lots of senior players - some his senior - the magnitude of the move dawns on him - he is not ready for the jump up yet and he bottles it because he knows he couldn't handle such a big club at this stage in his career, and comes out with the crap he did to appease the Cherries fans.

 

That is the scenario that I think occured, or pretty close to that scenario.

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NC: Thankyou for coming to the interview, we like what you have to say, and you are certainly the type of manager we are looking to employ. We will be in touch very soon.

 

EH leaves the room and thinks about things - he's 32 and has had sucess working at a low profile club with lots of young players - this is a massive jump up to a high profile club with lots of senior players - some his senior - the magnitude of the move dawns on him - he is not ready for the jump up yet and he bottles it because he knows he couldn't handle such a big club at this stage in his career, and comes out with the crap he did to appease the Cherries fans.

 

That is the scenario that I think occured, or pretty close to that scenario.

 

 

 

 

 

Of course that was the scenario! It couldn't have been that Adkins had been approached first and Howe knew he was second choice. It couldn't have been that he listened to NC and didn't like what he heard. It couldn't have been that he didn't fancy working with a DOF.

 

None of the above happened. So your scenario must be correct.

 

I think too many posters on here have a very one sided opinion of Southampton FC. Of course I want us to appoint a successful manager but we just have to sit back and wait for NC to do his job. But to lay blame on everyone else and none at our door is daft. We are in the THIRD div ffs. We are not Man U/City. I find many comments about other chairmen and managers disrespectful.

 

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This. Personally I'm quite encouraged that the people 'throwing buns' are from the other clubs involved, whilst we maintain dignity.

 

Nice also to see a few Cherries fans here tonight - welcome to you all, good luck for the season - any recent sightings (news of) our mutual friend LLS/LLC aka Mr Marc(k) Jackson...?

 

Last spotted in B&Q buying a pair of Bolt Cutters just to help the Cherries fans out when their Landlords padlock the ground for rent arrears (allegedly).

 

Mitchell must be gutted at not getting cash in for Howe, especially after his great deal for Pittman turned into a small cash deposit and future payments.

 

Should we believe Mitchell or Saints at the moment?

 

Dear oh dear, how funny it is that some take Eddie the builders view over ours

 

Peeps, the word is Supporters of a football club, not Moaners of a football club.

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Just remember where the News comes from. It's always the Chairmen of the clubs involved never the candidate. Of course they would say what they do. They have big egos so I am not surprised. If Howe did not want the job he would have not bothered with the interview. We probably turned him down and his Chairman would not admit it.

 

Quite. This is chairman saying this ..not Howe himself.

 

I interview lots of people for jobs. It would be pretty rare for me to actually get as far as offering a job to someone who will turn it down. You sound candidates out first.

 

Much more likely scenario is: Cortese interviews Howe and says "we're interested ..will let you know when we've finished our search process". Or even "we're interested" and Howe says "can I think about it before I say I definitely want it?" Fine, says Cortese..we're still interviewing other candidates.

 

Howe goes home and decides he doesn't want to remain in the frame, so withdraws his application. Job never actually offered.

 

Meanwhile he talks to his chairman, exaggerrates a bit and says ..I didn't want it .. implying he probably could have got it if he had. Chairman builds this up another step to 'he was definitely offered it and turned it down.'

 

Pratt of chairman then shoots his mouth off in a completely unprofessional manner. What the hell does he think he is doing breaching confidence like that even if his version is accurate? Result - Southampton definitely, and many other clubs maybe, never deal with Bournemouth again.

 

K.

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I think it is more likely he turned down the chance of an interview rather than turning an actual job offer down. There is a big difference between the two. I can't see why they would have offered the job to Howe before offering it to Adkins.

 

How is there a big difference? He was offered a interview, not only did he turn the job down he actually didn't even want to hear what we had to say!!!!!

 

Cortese is starting to look a fool, Bristol 0 - 4 South Coast Team, sack the manager, tw4t about with Adkins, turnt down by Howe, if this is 'moving the club forward' I'd rather live in the past!

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Quite. This is chairman saying this ..not Howe himself.

 

I interview lots of people for jobs. It would be pretty rare for me to actually get as far as offering a job to someone who will turn it down. You sound candidates out first.

 

Much more likely scenario is: Cortese interviews Howe and says "we're interested ..will let you know when we've finished our search process". Or even "we're interested" and Howe says "can I think about it before I say I definitely want it?" Fine, says Cortese..we're still interviewing other candidates.

 

Howe goes home and decides he doesn't want to remain in the frame, so withdraws his application. Job never actually offered.

 

Meanwhile he talks to his chairman, exaggerrates a bit and says ..I didn't want it .. implying he probably could have got it if he had. Chairman builds this up another step to 'he was definitely offered it and turned it down.'

 

Pratt of chairman then shoots his mouth off in a completely unprofessional manner. What the hell does he think he is doing breaching confidence like that even if his version is accurate? Result - Southampton definitely, and many other clubs maybe, never deal with Bournemouth again.

 

K.

 

Can't agree with that, if another company tries to poach your staff I don't think there is any obligation to keep it secret.

 

I don't remember Lowe keeping quiet when Spurs nicked Hoddle.

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