Eddie Howe Turned us down?

[aintforever]

Regardless of the reason he did turn down/may have turned down the job, it is really not very cool for that to be leaked.

 

It's either a disrespect to a fellow chairman (if your chairman leaked it) or a disrespect to the fellow manager who eventually gets the job (if Howe leaked it).

 

The mature and dignified thing would have been to stay quiet.

 

And the smart thing, too. You're now on Cortese's sh*t list, just in case you need a favour down the road.

 

Like Bournemouth will care if they are on Nicola's **** list!

[CWD]

If you were Nigel Adkins right now, wouldn't you feel a bit ****ed off?

 

This whole thing could implode and neither of them will appointed, and who would want to take the job knowing full well that they are 3rd choice?

 

FWIW I would rather have NA than Howe every day of the week. No disrespect to EH as I think he's done a fantastic job at a very small club, but NA has twice the experience whilst remaining young enough to grow with the job.

[CanadaSaint]

Like Bournemouth will care if they are on Nicola's **** list!

 

You never know when you'll need a favour - especially from a neighbour.

 

A behind doors friendly, a vote in a league meeting, a loan player, a cup of sugar.

[aintforever]

You never know when you'll need a favour - especially from a neighbour.

 

A behind doors friendly, a vote in a league meeting, a loan player, a cup of sugar.

 

Because Cortese seems like the type of bloke to hand out favours...

[saint lard]

Who cares about Eddie howe, it´s extremely doubtfull he would have handled the pressure of ambitous saints after being at a club with low expectations, could of worked but would have been a risk, sorry bompey but i doubt the majority of saints fans are as devastated as you want us to be.

 

Could'nt this also apply to Adkins?

[ossie1]

You never know when you'll need a favour - especially from a neighbour.

 

A behind doors friendly, a vote in a league meeting, a loan player, a cup of sugar.

 

 

and a manager..tee hee

 

take a look at the table boys...its laughable isnt it. We are laughing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

at you

[Armitage Shanks]

you all need to get a grip of yourselves and ask why Eddie Howe would turn down your club instead of slagging the bloke off

 

1. Because the man clearly has no ambition

2. Because he knew that he wasn't up to the job and would be found out

[SW11_Saint]

Regardless of the reason he did turn down/may have turned down the job, it is really not very cool for that to be leaked.

It's either a disrespect to a fellow chairman (if your chairman leaked it) or a disrespect to the fellow manager who eventually gets the job (if Howe leaked it).

 

The mature and dignified thing would have been to stay quiet.

 

And the smart thing, too. You're now on Cortese's sh*t list, just in case you need a favour down the road.

Can't blame Bournemouth for wanting to let their fans know their manager has resisted overtures from a bigger club.

 

Talking of disrespectful, it's pretty disrespectful to not offer compensation to a club when you take their manager...

Edited 9 September, 2010 by SW11_Saint

[View From The Top]

Could'nt this also apply to Adkins?

 

Of course, but Adkins has experience of managing in the NPC, something EH doesn't.

 

I was told, on Monday I think, about EH and when he wasn't announced by Wednesday it was obvious it wasn't going to be him.

 

O'Driscoll from Donny would have been my choice.

[CanadaSaint]

Because Cortese seems like the type of bloke to hand out favours...

 

If it suits him, yes.

 

Or, more likely, f*ck you up, if that suits him.

[martel]

If you were Nigel Adkins right now, wouldn't you feel a bit ****ed off?

 

This whole thing could implode and neither of them will appointed, and who would want to take the job knowing full well that they are 3rd choice?

 

FWIW I would rather have NA than Howe every day of the week. No disrespect to EH as I think he's done a fantastic job at a very small club, but NA has twice the experience whilst remaining young enough to grow with the job.

 

Frankly I have given up trying to second guess what is going on, Adkins holds a press conference, saying that the details are ongoing, in the meantime we interview Eddie Howe who subsequently turns us down, personally I like to target things with a rifle; this appears to be targetting with a shot gun and who ever falls is our man, sorry but this has me a little baffled in all honesty, perhaps I am missing something it just seems a little bizzare to me.

[A Nut Can Cut You]

He said howe was offered this am & he turned it down.

why would he lie?

 

Maybe he was offered the job by a fake sheikh. To be fair, to go from Adkins to Howe in the matter of hours in the middle of rough negotiations with S****horpe is bordering on lunacy. I'll believe it if Adkins has a sudden change of heart after his good night's sleep. Just seems outlandish, and if it really happened, it would be a frightening sign of either the club's finances or Cortese's state of mind. The more likely scenario would be Cortese contacing Howe to sound him out in case the Adkins deal falls through. That would still be understandable.

 

Oh well, there's always Phil Brown. He doesn't mind being a leftover choice because he's the first choice in his own mind. Only nonentities like Eddie Howe need outside approval.

[View From The Top]

and a manager..tee hee

 

take a look at the table boys...its laughable isnt it. We are laughing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

at you

 

 

We can live with it, as we will when we go up and you just stay up.

 

You see, we look at you akin to a small, slighty simple, child, with a warm heart and an "ah bless".

 

We know it makes you sick.

[iansums]

Maybe he was offered the job by a fake sheikh. To be fair, to go from Adkins to Howe in the matter of hours in the middle of rough negotiations with S****horpe is bordering on lunacy. I'll believe it if Adkins has a sudden change of heart after his good night's sleep. Just seems outlandish, and if it really happened, it would be a frightening sign of either the club's finances or Cortese's state of mind. The more likely scenario would be Cortese contacing Howe to sound him out in case the Adkins deal falls through. That would still be understandable.

 

Oh well, there's always Phil Brown. He doesn't mind being a leftover choice because he's the first choice in his own mind. Only nonentities like Eddie Howe need outside approval.

 

The most likely explanation, Cortese was just keeping all his options open.

[CanadaSaint]

Talking of disrespectful, it's pretty disrespectful to not offer compensation to a club when you take their manager...

 

I completely agree.

 

and a manager..tee hee

 

take a look at the table boys...its laughable isnt it. We are laughing

 

at you

 

Oh, the excitement of your first erection.

[suewhistle]

Last academic year I turned down a cracking job, a step up if you will, from where I am when I was told that the preferred candidate had turn them down.

 

I was going to be 2nd best for anyone and I don't blame Howe for doing the same.

 

Really? Do lots of people take this attitude? It strikes me a bit playground, "if you don't pick me first I don't want to be in your team". If you think you should have been first and want the job you take it and prove your point. Otherwise the job goes unfilled (as if) or the third of fourth or.. get the job.

 

It does show why discretion is best in these matters. Hands up if you tell the boss "Can I have a day's leave Friday as I'm going to a job interview?" You might tell them when you get back and use a job offer as leverage in your current situation.

 

Frankly all this wild speculation is not getting us anywhere. If Howe really was offered it why would he not come? A massive increase in salary, budget, crowds and training set up, and even if he couldn't end up working with our Les in the long term it would still look good on his CV.

 

Just because we have interviewed a number of managers doesn't mean we have offered them all bloomin jobs!

[Colinjb]

and a manager..tee hee

 

take a look at the table boys...its laughable isnt it. We are laughing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

at you

 

I'm not laughing, i'm happy for you guys.

 

Never got the whole you hating us thing. Most of us quite like seeing you do well!

[woodsaint]

Sven joined League Two Notts County

Brian Clough joined lower League Brighton after winning the top flight with Derby

 

Money/ambition talks in football. Of course it wouldn't work with everyone, but if you show money and ambition it is possible to attract high profile name to the lower league.

 

Hardly great examples, both realised what the f*** they got themselves into and left pretty sharpish. Cant see us attracting MON but would love to be wrong

[Saint Fan CaM]

FFS, I for one am completely relieved that he 'turned us down'. Let him go back to being a big fish in a very small pond. Full of pond life. We need a bigger man of a manager - not a boy just cutting his milk-teeth in management. Am I the only one who will be SO glad to be out of this division so Pimpley and Boremouth can then squabble over who's the bigger club in L1?

[View From The Top]

Really? Do lots of people take this attitude? It strikes me a bit playground, "if you don't pick me first I don't want to be in your team". If you think you should have been first and want the job you take it and prove your point. Otherwise the job goes unfilled (as if) or the third of fourth or.. get the job.

 

In my profession, yes.

 

The job was re-advertised. Twice.

[Flyer]

1. Because the man clearly has no ambition

2. Because he knew that he wasn't up to the job and would be found out

 

He went for the interview and something changed his mind between going to the interview and being offered the job.

 

I think its pretty clear what that would be.

[hypochondriac]

Told you...

[UpTheCherries]

Oh hum, not sure why I expected anything different to be honest, but seems a shame the thread has to break down into a slagging AFCB off contest, despite a previous poster claiming you don't care about us...if you don't why waste time discussing it...oh well.

 

Back to topic perhaps?

 

1st or 2nd choice behind Adkins again all speculation. He could have been first choice, but made it obvious he wasn't interested or disliked the Director of Football set-up, so you went to Adkins, then went back for Howe this morning (just in case) when that started to crumble...or he was second choice all along and you went to him once Scunny started being difficult asking for a modest compensation payment...either way if he wanted the job it was his for the taking and he decided against it.

 

However the one thing that is certain is that Eddie Howe doesn't need to save face with the AFCB supporters as the fans wouldn't turn on him. He's an AFCB supporter, he's come through the youth ranks, played for us, coached us and managed us. The fans raised the money to bring him back from your rivals after his injury, he has always had a close attachment to the supporters and that was before the miracles he has performed since becoming manager. There was even a thread on the AFCB forum discussing a chant for Eddie if he was your manager when we visit next month! If we were happy to chant his name as your manager, somehow I don't think he will need to win many over for turning you down.

[shurlock]

And those examples really worked didn't they! Both Cloughie and Sven were rip roaring successes.

 

Anyone who thinks, even slightly, that it's possible really is an idiot.

 

Keegan went to Fulham (L1) after his first successful spell at Newcastle (and then went onto manage England).

Joe Royle dropped down with Man C (also L1)- after managing Everton and winning the FA Cup there.

 

Both were big names at the time.

[alpine_saint]

Embarassing.

 

We drop Adkins because of compensation, then go back to him because Howe turns us down.

 

I hope Adkins and Wharton upped their wage and compo demands respectively.

[View From The Top]

He went for the interview and something changed his mind between going to the interview and being offered the job.

 

I think its pretty clear what that would be.

 

Not being 1st choice.

[Turkish]

Keegan went to Fulham (L1) after his first successful spell at Newcastle (and then went onto manage England).

Joe Royle dropped down with Man C (also L1)- after managing Everton and winning the FA Cup there.

 

Both were big names at the time.

 

Martin O'Neill is one of the best managers in the UK if not Europe, Keegan and Joe Royle, with respect, are not. If any of the top 10 clubs in the country needed a manager, O'Neill would be high up their wanted list. He left VIlla because the chairman of Villa, a top 6 PL club, didn't share the same ambition as him. Obviously that ambition was not to drop down into league one.

[Turkish]

Embarassing.

 

We drop Adkins because of compensation, then go back to him because Howe turns us down.

 

I hope Adkins and Wharton upped their wage and compo demands respectively.

 

That it is.

[sfc6mufc3]

Bit of a mug that Howe if you ask me.

 

Fancy turning down the chance to manager us - it's a bit like me turning down a date with Kelly Brook.

[modern matron]

If you were Nigel Adkins right now, wouldn't you feel a bit ****ed off?

 

This whole thing could implode and neither of them will appointed, and who would want to take the job knowing full well that they are 3rd choice?

 

FWIW I would rather have NA than Howe every day of the week. No disrespect to EH as I think he's done a fantastic job at a very small club, but NA has twice the experience whilst remaining young enough to grow with the job.

 

 

Too soon and the wrong club for EH. God knows how NA feels. He's been loyal, we've tried to appoint someone else while he waits.....

[View From The Top]

Keegan went to Fulham (L1) after his first successful spell at Newcastle (and then went onto manage England).

Joe Royle dropped down with Man C (also L1)- after managing Everton and winning the FA Cup there.

 

Both were big names at the time.

 

Keegan at Fulham was what, 1996ish, and he had an owner who threw money at it.

 

Only a total and utter idiot thinks MON would ever even consider it.

[Gingeletiss]

Embarassing.

 

We drop Adkins because of compensation, then go back to him because Howe turns us down.

 

I hope Adkins and Wharton upped their wage and compo demands respectively.

 

 

Apart from the media (and they know about as much as most on here), who has said that this happend. Cripes, the amount of belief in sloppy jurnos, beggers belief.

[Saints foreva]

You never know when you'll need a favour - especially from a neighbour.

 

A behind doors friendly, a vote in a league meeting, a loan player, a cup of sugar.

 

Or even 1,000 extra away tickets for a cup final next month.....

 

(Bournemouth only have an allocation of 2,400 at the moment)

[dune]

I'm not laughing, i'm happy for you guys.

 

Never got the whole you hating us thing. Most of us quite like seeing you do well!

 

But look at it from their point of view. They have never had a local rival or a derby game so you can't blame them for wishing we took them seriously.

[gjphilsaint]

Shambles.. it seems!

[NickG]

and a manager..tee hee

 

take a look at the table boys...its laughable isnt it. We are laughing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

at you

 

aahhh, bless quite cute really.

[modern matron]

Embarassing.

 

We drop Adkins because of compensation, then go back to him because Howe turns us down.

 

I hope Adkins and Wharton upped their wage and compo demands respectively.

 

Totally agree AS bloody farcical. NC better have a good story all he'll be crucified - especially if NA turns him down!

[dune]

Embarassing.

 

We drop Adkins because of compensation, then go back to him because Howe turns us down.

 

I hope Adkins and Wharton upped their wage and compo demands respectively.

 

Really Alpine. Adkins has had the job in the bag for a few days now and he will be appointed tomorrow. Don't believe all the crap you read.

[NickG]

can you remember that joyful day when our team and fans were celebrating our greatest day by singing about the joy of going to Dean Court? Oh no, it was Bournemouth!

 

We know how much your manager, team and fans love us - we saw you on tv singing about us in your excitement!

[scott_saints]

I bet the Bompey fans now think is messiah x 2 right?

 

bless 'em.

[fromthedell]

Most can't understand why we are bothering with managers of virtual non league clubs with no expectations or ambitions and who are watched by a combined fan base smaller that our average attendance.

 

Just saying like.

 

non league ???? s****horpe league above us and bmouth higher than us in the 3rd tier !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[modern matron]

Really Alpine. Adkins has had the job in the bag for a few days now and he will be appointed tomorrow. Don't believe all the crap you read.

 

In the bag! In my eyes this is a complete ****up in my book. Why are you so happy and full of yourself anyway? You think this crap is good for the club do you?

[dune]

We know how much your manager, team and fans love us - we saw you on tv singing about us in your excitement!

 

ha ha, they sing songs about us - that's really funny. I bet they copy Pompey songs.

[dune]

In the bag! In my eyes this is a complete ****up in my book. Why are you so happy and full of yourself anyway? You think this crap is good for the club do you?

 

What crap? We've got our man and it's just a matter of dotting a few i's and crossing a few t's. Don't be such a drama queen.

[Dalek2003]

Most can't understand why we are bothering with managers of virtual non league clubs with no expectations or ambitions and who are watched by a combined fan base smaller that our average attendance.

 

Just saying like.

 

Surprised ? We did it in 2004 with Sturrock. More to the point we turned down a successful England manager for a wurzel from Plymouth! LOL.

 

Having siad that, it was the vocal loony few !!!!!!!

[woodsaint]

Howe goes for an interview, is offered the job but turns it down according to the bournemouth chairman....sorry but smells of BS to me, sounds like hes tryna reassure the fans and not telling them the probable truth, that he was interviewed but not offered the job

[View From The Top]

non league ???? s****horpe league above us and bmouth higher than us in the 3rd tier !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I would suggest that the majority of Saints fans view the Irons and Cherries as tiny footballing minnows and their league positions compared to ours as freakish.

 

Just saying like.

[View From The Top]

Surprised ? We did it in 2004 with Sturrock. More to the point we turned down a successful England manager for a wurzel from Plymouth! LOL.

 

Having siad that, it was the vocal loony few !!!!!!!

 

Still, it gave you a cause so happy endings and all that Glenn.

 

Plus, we were a top flight team then and, if you hadn't noticed, we ain't now.

[Graffito]

Bournemouth Chairman said this:

 

"He's made his mind up - he's staying, whether they [southampton] come back or not." (quoted on the BBC).

 

I reckon Howe was sounded out as to whether he would take the job if it were offered. That would be quite differed from being offered the job and would not mean he'd turned us down.

[Dr Who?]

If I was Adkins I would say sod you lot I am staying put!