Cortese Is Being Unfairly Treated

[Greenridge]

Without doubt NC is an astute businessman but whether his style can transmit across in to the world of football has yet to be proven. There's a propaganda war going on and you have to take much of what is said - by all parties - with a pinch of salt. NC doesn't seem too worried about winning any popularity contest with anyone either directly associated or indirectly associated with the Club but if he does a decent job then that's by-the-by as far as I'm concerned.

[derry]

Hi Derry, Teddy, Weston and the other 3 ( sorry guys can't remember your sign in names ) that I met Tuesday. Thanks for meeting me I really enjoyed it.

 

Corsacar Saint, Happy Harry and Clifford Nelson. likewise Ian.

[merrimd]

I just think he should have handled it better ie not demanded his resignation etc etc, other managerial changes at other clubs can do it so why cant we

 

Surely if you are a currently employed manager, you are approached and offered a job elsewhere, if you want to take up that job it is up to you to resign from your current job? As you have pointed out, the compensation gets sorted out later. Its how it works isn't it? I am still failing to see what he has done wrong other than take a promising manager away from a club that cant afford to lose him. That in itself should be a good thing for us.

[exit2]

Oh how I miss those days when you tried to squash anyone who expressed doubts over the Pinnacle bid

 

In the beginning I did and Ill admit it due to the inital names concerned, but after it went on I also had doubts like the rest of you guys.

[merrimd]

Spot on.

 

It's happening time and time again, his intentions are good, but the way he handles things show inexperience and it worries me.

 

How do we know how he is handling it exactly? Just because Scunny dont like it, doesn't mean he is doing it wrong.

[Thedelldays]

I just think he should have handled it better ie not demanded his resignation etc etc, other managerial changes at other clubs can do it so why cant we

 

Where has he demanded a resignation

 

Please feel free to show us

[fish fingers]

Where has he demanded a resignation

 

Please feel free to show us

 

Who needs facts, if its on the interweb somewhere its true.

[Wade Garrett]

From reading on here you wonder if Adkins really wants the job. There is speculation that he went back to Scunny to say goodbye to everyone rather than take training today, and he wouldn't resign his position despite apparently agreeing terms with us.

 

Some might argue that he has principles, morals etc. Others might say that everything suggests he changed his mind.

 

Cortese can still come out of this smelling of roses if he appoints a manager that would get the fans approval.

[exit2]

Surely if you are a currently employed manager, you are approached and offered a job elsewhere, if you want to take up that job it is up to you to resign from your current job? As you have pointed out, the compensation gets sorted out later. Its how it works isn't it? I am still failing to see what he has done wrong other than take a promising manager away from a club that cant afford to lose him. That in itself should be a good thing for us.

 

What he has failed to do is secure that Managerial position, it should all have been overcome somehow and quickly. I still think his business sense is superb, but his football knowledge is lacking

[dune]

How do we know how he is handling it exactly? Just because Scunny dont like it, doesn't mean he is doing it wrong.

 

This. A lot of people are getting in a flap without knowing the facts.

[merrimd]

What he has failed to do is secure that Managerial position, it should all have been overcome somehow and quickly. I still think his business sense is superb, but his football knowledge is lacking

 

You are maybe correct, however as I see it, he has taken in applicants, identified the ideal candidate, applied for permission to approach, interviewed, and agreed terms with the manager in question. All done in a RELATIVELY timely manner (possibly could have been done quicker, but who here actually knows how long these things take). It has now been delayed because, for whatever reason, comps cant be agreed. Its not like he is not working on securing the managerial postition. Its just that it is hitting a number of obstacles.

I am not sure what else he could have done to be honest.

[Block 5]

Nope, I am fed up with him.

 

He's lost me. Nearly 2 weeks on and we are still managerless.

 

I am sure he doesnt give a sh*t about that anyway.

 

I knew you'd crack!

NC rushed into his last managerial appointment.

He won't make the same mistake again.

Stay chilled Alps.

[buctootim]

In the beginning I did and Ill admit it due to the inital names concerned, but after it went on I also had doubts like the rest of you guys.

 

Which should leave you to believe that you cant always trust your 'sources' to get it right and maybe NC should be cut some slack.

Edited 9 September, 2010 by buctootim

[View From The Top]

From reading on here you wonder if Adkins really wants the job. There is speculation that he went back to Scunny to say goodbye to everyone rather than take training today, and he wouldn't resign his position despite apparently agreeing terms with us.

 

Some might argue that he has principles, morals etc. Others might say that everything suggests he changed his mind.

 

Cortese can still come out of this smelling of roses if he appoints a manager that would get the fans approval.

 

As the Plymouth fan in my team said "he's bottled leaving".

[Norm]

From reading on here you wonder if Adkins really wants the job. There is speculation that he went back to Scunny to say goodbye to everyone rather than take training today, and he wouldn't resign his position despite apparently agreeing terms with us.

 

Some might argue that he has principles, morals etc. Others might say that everything suggests he changed his mind.

 

Cortese can still come out of this smelling of roses if he appoints a manager that would get the fans approval.

 

 

 

How on earth would anyone on here have any knowledge of Adkins intentions. The truth lies somewhere in the middle of what we are being told by SFC and S****horpe FC.

 

Perhaps Adkins wanted the compensation sorted before he resigned. After all, he has been at Scunny for a long time and must have strong feelings towards them.

[exit2]

Which should leave to believe that you cant always trust your 'sources' to get it right and maybe NC should be cut some slack.

 

 

LOL See you cant please some people, what ever info I get I try and pass on, sometimes its correct sometimes its not. You weren't moaning when I said Liebherr was behind the Swiss bid before it was known, anyway whats this got to do with NC being cut some slack.

[INFLUENCED.COM]

maybe NC should be cut some slack.

 

I believe he should, ML invested Millions due to the faith he had in Cortese, so he is upsetting a few people who perhaps are used to having things their way such as the nationals and the Echo, NC will play the long game he has that luxury but if we are to believe the rumours then he will want promotion this season every bit as much as we do...perhaps for different reasons but the want will be the same.

We need to get behind the club and the manager appointed whether its O'Neal or O'no not him as I am sure all is being done for the common goal.

[Nolan]

The sooner people on this forum realise Cortese is an astute businessman with OUR common interest at heart the better, and that goes for jumped up northern monkey chairmen too!

If we kept on paying inflated prices because Cortese was a chump we'd soon not be a viable business and we'd end up like the blue few down the road!

Mr Cortese needs to be applauded! not driven away FFS

 

Rant Over.

 

Absolutely. It seems there a quite a few people on here who think the best way of running the football club is to constantly capitulate to the media or to whatever other Chairman say.

 

I severely doubt that NC would do anything to endanger the club, and find it disturbing how many people make snap judgements based on impatience, hearsay and assumptions.

 

Give the guy a chance to do his job, and the best for SFC.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

Which should leave you to believe that you cant always trust your 'sources' to get it right and maybe NC should be cut some slack.

 

Got to stick up for Exit 2 here Buccotim. He was in a very good place to make a judgement on Pinnacle (he had seen the original letter from Pinnacle to the club) and like Matt and many others was swallowed in by the bull. But he was equally as quick (unlike Matt, unfortunately) to see it was a load of old cobblers, indeed he and I got into hot water for exposing Pinnacle on here the Saturday before their bid collapsed.

Exit 2 was the first one to come up with Liebherr's name too.

 

If we didn't run with our sources and post stuff we believe to be legit this forum would be incredibly boring.

[Asaint4ever]

boooooo

[warsash saint]

Nicola is in for it now !!! Alpine has changed his tune

[Professor]

Of course Cortese has acted entirely correctly, the statement on the OS makes that absolutely clear. It's just a shame that his past actions make the opposite believeable.

 

In the meantime, Saints don't have a manager, the club we love is becoming a laughing stock and there is a danger that it may become an embarrassment to admit to being a Saints supporter. None of this seems to accord with the original club statement on 30th August that "New First Team Football Manager and Coaches (were) to be appointed".

[1976_Child]

Exactly my thoughts. There is no point splashing stupid money.

 

yes there is. The whole football world knows that Saints have cash to spend and no debt. Everyone knows that NC has made it abundantly clear he wants promotion this season. It is therefore going to take a big wedge to get a new good manager in. Cortese should just pay up. We can't afford to drag this out any longer. If it drags on into the autumn and results do not come then home attendance will nose-dive and it will quickly become apparent that deciding to screw the best deal was not in the long term best interests of the club, either financially or in the league table.

[CanadaSaint]

Jesus Murphy.

 

I go to bed and everything's on track for what I think is a very good appointment - a guy who ticks most of my boxes even if he isn't (or possibly because he isn't) a "big name".

 

I wake up and Cortese is engaged in yet another barney with yet another person over yet another issue, and the managerial appointment is spiralling down the sh*tter in a clockwise direction. So we're heading for a six-pointer of a league game with the less-than-convincing Dean Wilkins in charge. Again, the media's having a field day at our expense.

 

And, if that's not enough, I notice that Tony Lynham, has suddenly reappeared and is circling like a shark who smells the blood of a club for sale. The thought process from there is too terrifying to contemplate.

 

Sod it, I'm going back to bed.

[buctootim]

Got to stick up for Exit 2 here Buccotim. He was in a very good place to make a judgement on Pinnacle (he had seen the original letter from Pinnacle to the club) and like Matt and many others was swallowed in by the bull. But he was equally as quick (unlike Matt, unfortunately) to see it was a load of old cobblers, indeed he and I got into hot water for exposing Pinnacle on here the Saturday before their bid collapsed.

Exit 2 was the first one to come up with Liebherr's name too.

 

If we didn't run with our sources and post stuff we believe to be legit this forum would be incredibly boring.

 

I agree its great grist for the mill when genuine snippets are fed and discussed. This board needs that. Distinguishing those nuggets from those pushing an agenda or simply making stuff up to get attention is tricky. This board moves like mercury with every latest rumour, snippet, half truth and downright lie so that in the end no-one knows what to believe. Also, inevitably there is no understanding of the context in which decisions were made. I think it just breeds cynicism and disaffection - which is not what most of us follow Saints for. How to have a good forum without the negative spinoffs? dunno - above my paygrade unfortunately.

Edited 9 September, 2010 by buctootim

[Professor]

I'd love to work for Cortese, wouldn't you....?

[Marsdinho]

So many people on here spout of all sorts of bollix before the facts are actually know.

 

Its the same people over and over again.

[1976_Child]

So many people on here spout of all sorts of bollix before the facts are actually know.

 

Its the same people over and over again.

 

football abhors a vacuum.

[dubai_phil]

How on earth would anyone on here have any knowledge of Adkins intentions. The truth lies somewhere in the middle of what we are being told by SFC and S****horpe FC.

 

Perhaps Adkins wanted the compensation sorted before he resigned. After all, he has been at Scunny for a long time and must have strong feelings towards them.

 

Nope. Cannot have been that last bit... Think it through

 

You are at an interview, you are offered the job. It comes with a package and terms and conditions. You sort those out BEFORE you leave the room OR you say "I will need to get my lawyers to check this and that".

 

What you do NOT do is to leave the interview and then tell the world that you have the job. (Or in this case have Wharton tell the world).

 

You get everything agreed before you leave, OR you say "I need to sleep on this"

 

SOMETHING happened overnight.

 

I'm a quiet cynic (thanks Pancake) but on this one the trail of the mess leads back to Scunny's door. Is Wharton REALLY so think he felt he could play billy big bollo in the media to negotiate? If so he really has been ill advised reading The Sun could have told him what NC was like.

 

My interpretation of this - Adkins did not fully commit at the interview, NC asked him to and saw some sign of wavering. 14 years is a lot to give up, I sure as hell would have wanted to think it through first. Scunny then mouthed off.

 

TBH I would have done exactly what the OS statement said and would have told NA the deal was being pulled.

 

That does NOT mean I am not worried about NC, just this one does NOT look like the right stick to beat him with, ESPECIALLY because we need a new manager with Commitment to The Cause, not some "ooh well yeah that sounds nice but well I think maybe OK can I get back to you say Monday or Tuesday, thanks for the offer"

[derry]

Jesus Murphy.

 

I go to bed and everything's on track for what I think is a very good appointment - a guy who ticks most of my boxes even if he isn't (or possibly because he isn't) a "big name".

 

I wake up and Cortese is engaged in yet another barney with yet another person over yet another issue, and the managerial appointment is spiralling down the sh*tter in a clockwise direction. So we're heading for a six-pointer of a league game with the less-than-convincing Dean Wilkins in charge. Again, the media's having a field day at our expense.

 

And, if that's not enough, I notice that Tony Lynham, has suddenly reappeared and is circling like a shark who smells the blood of a club for sale. The thought process from there is too terrifying to contemplate.

 

Sod it, I'm going back to bed.

 

It'll look a whole lot better in a few hours. It looks like we didn't think he wanted to join us enough alternatively we didn't want him enough, otherwise when push came to shove he would have told S****horpe to shove it or agree a figure. It's obvious he was being emotionally pulled back so it might not have worked. You still have to respect an honourable position.

Edited 9 September, 2010 by derry

[Leyton Lundekvam]

Without doubt NC is an astute businessman.

 

Without doubt? I would say events recently are casting doubt upon this claim...

[CanadaSaint]

It'll look a whole lot better in a few hours. It looks like we didn't think he wanted to join us enough, otherwise when push came to shove he would have told S****horpe to shove it or agree a figure. It's obvious he was being emotionally pulled back so it might not have worked. You still have to respect an honourable position.

 

I totally respect and admire an honourable position (I'd like to think that I would have done the same as Adkins) but it seems that this quality has become more of a liability in football.

 

What really worries me is this. Our position is almost unique in English football - A) because of the structure within which the individual will have to function, and B) because the very presence of Cortese will make everything more challenging.

 

Adkins, for me, ticked all of the key boxes. I don't know who else would do so to anything like that degree, and some of the people being suggested were laughably unsuited. We don't have a shortlist of 50 or so capable of fitting into this position and succeeding (the number who supposedly expressed interest) but a shortlist of two or three at best. And the danger is that this latest debacle will throw even more red flags up around our club and put their interest in question.

 

I'm not sure where we go from here but I sure hope you're right that "it'll look a whole lot better in a few hours".

 

BTW, where the hell is this legendary Happy Harry poster?

[John B]

Nope. Cannot have been that last bit... Think it through

 

You are at an interview, you are offered the job. It comes with a package and terms and conditions. You sort those out BEFORE you leave the room OR you say "I will need to get my lawyers to check this and that".

 

What you do NOT do is to leave the interview and then tell the world that you have the job. (Or in this case have Wharton tell the world).

 

You get everything agreed before you leave, OR you say "I need to sleep on this"

 

SOMETHING happened overnight.

 

I'm a quiet cynic (thanks Pancake) but on this one the trail of the mess leads back to Scunny's door. Is Wharton REALLY so think he felt he could play billy big bollo in the media to negotiate? If so he really has been ill advised reading The Sun could have told him what NC was like.

 

My interpretation of this - Adkins did not fully commit at the interview, NC asked him to and saw some sign of wavering. 14 years is a lot to give up, I sure as hell would have wanted to think it through first. Scunny then mouthed off.

 

TBH I would have done exactly what the OS statement said and would have told NA the deal was being pulled.

 

That does NOT mean I am not worried about NC, just this one does NOT look like the right stick to beat him with, ESPECIALLY because we need a new manager with Commitment to The Cause, not some "ooh well yeah that sounds nice but well I think maybe OK can I get back to you say Monday or Tuesday, thanks for the offer"

 

Pretty unrealistic theory I would have thought as I doubt whether Atkins would have made much difference to the Swindon preparations

 

I heard last night there was problems with compensation so the deal did not go through because Cortese did not agree with the compensation required.

 

If you pay peanuts you get Monkeys is a well known phrase so lets see who we get.

 

Cortese sacks Pardew who had a better record than Adkins when he last got promoted then fails after almost two weeks to get a replacement during which time the team performs badly and has a row with another club.

 

So far he has upset the Echo The Sun Martin Samuel of the Daily Mail Various Local Newspapers Pardew Downes Murdoch Coventry City and StuRomseySaint plus countless other fans

[Professor]

Its great fun speculating, but what is not such fun is that the future of the club depends on the decisions being taken. We have already dropped 3 points since Pardew was sacked, that we may not have dropped had he remained in place. We may now drop another 3 on Saturday while the players operate without a proper manager in place. We are also losing time to strengthen the side with loans.

 

It appears that Nigel Adkins is the best candidate but the unknown factors seem to be (a) how badly he wants the job, and (b) how far Cortese is going to try to minimise the compensation payment. Neither Adkins or Cortese can force S****horpe to agree a compensastion figure, and if they will not, then a Tribunal figure is the expected outcome.

 

If Cortese could avoid a Tribunal by paying S****horpe's price and has refused, maybe he doesn't want Adkins badly enough and is willing to take second or third best.

If Adkins is not willing to come on the basis of a Tribunal compensation that would suggest he doesn't want the job badly enough as it allows Scunny to block the deal.

 

This all looks a huge mess and it may leave a shadow over Adkins even if he comes here. Not knowing, or not believing, why Pardew was sacked is a poison that is affecting the fan base and will cost the club money through the turnstiles unless Cortese sorts this out very very quickly and provides an honest explanation.

[Stuntman Mike]

As far as i can see we were being held to ransom by the Scunny Chairman who severely inflated his compensation expectations be cause he heard we were worth a bit! Adkins is NO WAY worth the half million being quoted! Some of you need reminding Cortese is on OUR side, where would we be without him? I hope to god he doesnt read this forum!

 

Yes, it's ridiculous over-hysteria that we wouldn't have heard about pre-Internet days. Why can't he be left alone to do a job, after all, he's hardly going to want to fail is he??

As I said, this site seems to be full of people with odd agendas.

[dubai_phil]

Pretty unrealistic theory I would have thought as I doubt whether Atkins would have made much difference to the Swindon preparations

 

I heard last night there was problems with compensation so the deal did not go through because Cortese did not agree with the compensation required.

 

If you pay peanuts you get Monkeys is a well known phrase so lets see who we get.

 

Cortese sacks Pardew who had a better record than Adkins when he last got promoted then fails after almost two weeks to get a replacement during which time the team performs badly and has a row with another club.

 

So far he has upset the Echo The Sun Martin Samuel of the Daily Mail Various Local Newspapers Pardew Downes Murdoch Coventry City and StuRomseySaint plus countless other fans

 

Of course, as per the Adkins Press Conference

 

It could be that he came down, and had an interview.

 

All the rest was made up BS

 

We don't know, other than SOMETHING happened last night could have been Wharton got the wrong end of stick - let's wait and see

[dune]

If we didn't run with our sources and post stuff we believe to be legit this forum would be incredibly boring.

 

All we ask is for a little more balance and a bit less of the pink jacketed millitant. You clearly have a grievance against the club right now, but that doesn't mean that every angle has to be used to pursue your mission against the club. I have a massive problem with the ticket tax, but that is one issue and it doesn't mean that i'll take a view on another issue based on my view of that issue. I think you need to take a step back and stop being so negative for the sake of it.

[CanadaSaint]

All we ask is for a little more balance and a bit less of the pink jacketed millitant. You clearly have a grievance against the club right now, but that doesn't mean that every angle has to be used to pursue your mission against the club. I have a massive problem with the ticket tax, but that is one issue and it doesn't mean that i'll take a view on another issue based on my view of that issue. I think you need to take a step back and stop being so negative for the sake of it.

 

There is a relatively short list of people whose posts I always read - because they're challenging or interesting or controversial or well informed (usually) or generally a voice of reason.

 

You're on the list for one or more of the reasons outlined above, and so is Duncan.

 

I just didn't expect to see you, of all people, advising another poster to "step back and stop being so negative for the sake of it". Without a winky thing.

[fish fingers]

Spot on.

 

It's happening time and time again, his intentions are good, but the way he handles things show inexperience and it worries me.

 

So why would Adkins still be interested if he has handled this badly?

[Thedelldays]

Can someone remind me what nicola has done so wrong here????

 

If NC is such a bad man why does Adkins still appear to want to drop a division to come here???

[saint_mears]

You only have to pay the value of the contract nothing more !

[Saint_Ash]

Can someone remind me what nicola has done so wrong here????

 

If NC is such a bad man why does Adkins still appear to want to drop a division to come here???

 

Well you have the administrators of this site and their friends (The9+) who hate Cortese for whatever reasons, maybe they can't get special privileges at the club anymore, or little snippets of gossip or some other rubbish, they are now general run of the mill fans. And as they don't like Cortese they want to beat him down whenever they have the chance, even though he's part of the club they support. In this case it's believing what some unprofessional old Chairman up at Scunny, desperate to hold onto his manager is saying over what their own club are saying.

 

NC might not be the God's Gift to media and he's not perfect but to clutch onto any little straws to smack him with is stupid and some posters come across as desperate and sad!

[derry]

I totally respect and admire an honourable position (I'd like to think that I would have done the same as Adkins) but it seems that this quality has become more of a liability in football.

 

What really worries me is this. Our position is almost unique in English football - A) because of the structure within which the individual will have to function, and B) because the very presence of Cortese will make everything more challenging.

 

Adkins, for me, ticked all of the key boxes. I don't know who else would do so to anything like that degree, and some of the people being suggested were laughably unsuited. We don't have a shortlist of 50 or so capable of fitting into this position and succeeding (the number who supposedly expressed interest) but a shortlist of two or three at best. And the danger is that this latest debacle will throw even more red flags up around our club and put their interest in question.

 

I'm not sure where we go from here but I sure hope you're right that "it'll look a whole lot better in a few hours".

 

BTW, where the hell is this legendary Happy Harry poster?

 

He's waiting to be approved by the system. Ron is going to have a word with Steve Grant.

 

It looks as though the stuff coming out of the S****horpe sieve is distorting the real position of both SFC and Adkins. Bill, he has been a standout manager for three years along with O'Driscoll then latterly Clarke and Howe. He was my choice when we for me disappointingly signed Pardew. I'm more hopeful that there is still talking going on and whilst Adkin is saying that it has to be settled fairly for S****horpe, the fact may be that after talking to Crosby at lunch time they have decided they want the job, that fact alone will concentrate the minds. S****horpe can't afford to scupper the move by silly demands as he knows what his contract is worth, meantime SFC have to show respect and pay a reasonable premium on the contract value to close the deal. Either way there is a point of no return for Adkins that must be imminent.

Edited 9 September, 2010 by derry

[dune]

Can someone remind me what nicola has done so wrong here????

 

If Nigel signs tomorrow, as Radio Humberside predict, then I cannot see how anyone can criticise him on this issue.

[Thedelldays]

If Nigel signs tomorrow, as Radio Humberside predict, then I cannot see how anyone can criticise him on this issue.

 

Fair play from you... However, you SOME will

[Horley CTFC Saint]

Dignity at work.

Absolutely - good business practice and if you comment on anything that may be controversial you could end up with a libel action against you!

[CanadaSaint]

He's waiting to be approved by the system. Ron is going to have a word with Steve Grant.

 

It looks as though the stuff coming out of the S****horpe sieve is distorting the real position of both SFC and Adkins. Bill, he has been a standout manager for three years along with O'Driscoll then latterly Clarke and Howe. He was my choice when we for me disappointingly signed Pardew. I'm more hopeful that there is still talking going on and whilst Adkin is saying that it has to be settled fairly for S****horpe, the fact may be that after talking to Crosby at lunch time they have decided they want the job, that fact alone will concentrate the minds. S****horpe can't afford to scupper the move by silly demands as he knows what his contract is worth, meantime SFC have to show respect and pay a reasonable premium on the contract value to close the deal. Either way there is a point of no return for Adkin that must be imminent.

 

It's starting to look more hopeful and you can almost sense where things went a little pear-shaped. Cortese - not unreasonably - wanted a quick commitment and an early morning start. Adkins - not unreasonably - wanted to square things properly with the Club he's been at for 16 years, discuss things with his wife, and make sure that everything is acceptable to his right hand man (and probably friend) who - it's clear - is "part of the package". He seems to have stood his ground with Cortese and yet he's still in the running.

 

This is all dropping Scunny in the mire so I think "a reasonable premium on the contract value" is entirely appropriate. They - not unreasonably - seem to have stood their ground and yet the deal is still on the table.

 

This may turn out to be a very good day in teaching Cortese that he's right to fight for his team but that there are times when he needs to back down.

[Viking Warrior]

I firmly believe NC is wrongly being villified as one or two have said he is an astute businessman and has His and markus's vison closely

to his chest. and that one of the credentials I like about him . the owners of chelsea man u ect are of the same ilk , very professional in their approach. Chelsea are doing well and when the self professed guru of managers left some of their fans were as critical as some on here.

 

is it just indicative of society than some of my fellow fans on here are acting like spoilt brats becuase they want something yesterday

well sometimes in life it pays to be patient. i don't buy all theis spin doctoring and crap that goes on here but we are a family although somewhat disfunctional at times. Lets be a little more patient or if certain groups start to protest against NC, he may well say FU all Im off and our club will be well and truly screwed. I for one minute don't think he is like that and he has a vision that he wants to see through. the appointment of a manager takes time we cannot afford a rush to judgement or the consequences can be dire.

[saint_mears]

I do not believe a word the club says to be honest these days after it was revealed its all done by a london based spin doctor.

[A Nut Can Cut You]

Everything from Adkins and his assistant having agreed terms with SFC to SFC supposedly withdrawing the offer has come directly from the Scunny chairman. Everything. Since then Adkins has held a press conference to say he's interested in becoming the next Saints manager and thinks all negotiations should be (should've been) kept private. In other words, the whole farce was concocted by the Scunny chairman for his own interests. He tried to bully Cortese into (over)paying what he demanded. Cortese didn't flinch, and as a result of onesided reporting, some Saints fans decided to blame him for the farce. Indeed, Cortese is being unfairly treated in this case, but I hope the fans slating him would reconsider and might have actually already reconsidered their stance after the emotional knee-jerk reaction has passed.