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Clifford Nelson

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Indeed, but it's sad that honour always seems to have a cost - at least in today's world.

 

I admire him for being willing to pay that cost, and I hope we soon become the beneficiaries of his principled approach.

 

I just wish we could get the deal done and get him in, because I feel he's right for us.

 

Dean Wilkins is really in an impossible position tomorrow - the players may well have tuned him out before they even tuned him in! And that could well be another six-pointer.

 

I can't say that he has been on my radar up till now, but from what I hear I don't mind at all. The idea of a manager with a flexible approach sounds attractive to me, including one who likes to see football played. Like Dave says elsewhere on this thread, the old re-cycled, safety-first, 4-4-2 at all cost are not going to create anything new here, and will therefore not do in the long run. If the only thing different between the teams is the amount of money spent on the playing staff, then our beloved Saints will probably never do better than to try to hang in the PL with our finger nails. We have all been there before, and if we are really honest with ourselves, how enjoyable was it, really?

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Matthew Le God

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Just listened to Adkins latest interview.... WILL YOU JUST BLOODY ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AND STOP REPEATING YOURSELF!!! I really hope he's not always like that and it's just down to him being told to keep stum........ Jeez.

 

I think its because he is in a tricky situation and is trying to be as careful as possible with what he says.

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yorkie

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All the interviewers all asking the same question today again then?

Really must cheese him off having to put a straight bat to every one of them!

Let's hope he won't be so elusive with answers when he joins us!

Wonder who he will bring in first? Reckon it will be a midfielder with decent shooting boots at this level.

Who is available? I bet he will know someone who is available!

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Badger

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All the interviewers all asking the same question today again then?

Really must cheese him off having to put a straight bat to every one of them!

Let's hope he won't be so elusive with answers when he joins us!

Wonder who he will bring in first? Reckon it will be a midfielder with decent shooting boots at this level.

Who is available? I bet he will know someone who is available!

 

He tried signing Le Fondre in the window, or wanted to. Can't recall why it did not happen, possibly it was down to 'Tight-wad' Wharton.

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CanadaSaint

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I’m going to take a speculative stab in the dark here in an attempt to understand the past week.

 

It's possible, perhaps likely, that Cortese is on a tighter leash - maybe because much of the money that Markus assigned to the Club is still tied up in the Swiss equivalent of probate, or because Markus's family don't hold Cortese in the same regard that Markus did, or because the potential costs incurred in the past two weeks (plus the compensation cost for Adkins) exceed those that Cortese is empowered and able to pay.

 

If Cortese's decision to fire Pardew and his coaches was somewhat impulsive (he has “previous” on that front), and subsequent legal advice suggests that there could be substantial termination costs, his trip may have been related to bringing the family "up to speed" and securing approval for those potential expenditures.

 

That approval may not have been immediately or easily forthcoming – especially if the family felt that it should have been consulted in advance. Any delay here would tie Cortese’s hands on the Adkins front.

 

If that scenario is reasonably accurate, and Cortese eventually secured the necessary approval, we’re ready to move ahead – which is what The Echo suggested was about to happen.

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alpine_saint

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I’m going to take a speculative stab in the dark here in an attempt to understand the past week.

 

It's possible, perhaps likely, that Cortese is on a tighter leash - maybe because much of the money that Markus assigned to the Club is still tied up in the Swiss equivalent of probate, or because Markus's family don't hold Cortese in the same regard that Markus did, or because the potential costs incurred in the past two weeks (plus the compensation cost for Adkins) exceed those that Cortese is empowered and able to pay.

 

If Cortese's decision to fire Pardew and his coaches was somewhat impulsive (he has “previous” on that front), and subsequent legal advice suggests that there could be substantial termination costs, his trip may have been related to bringing the family "up to speed" and securing approval for those potential expenditures.

 

That approval may not have been immediately or easily forthcoming – especially if the family felt that it should have been consulted in advance. Any delay here would tie Cortese’s hands on the Adkins front.

 

If that scenario is reasonably accurate, and Cortese eventually secured the necessary approval, we’re ready to move ahead – which is what The Echo suggested was about to happen.

 

I think you are being too negative with the regard the Liebherr family have for NC.

 

Just my feeling, though.

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CanadaSaint

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I think you are being too negative with the regard the Liebherr family have for NC.

 

Just my feeling, though.

 

Alps, it wasn't intended as a criticism so much as a suggestion that they don't know or trust him as Markus did.

 

Perhaps I should have put a "yet" in there.

 

But it might have raised some concerns if there might be a hefty price attached to the managerial changes.

 

Like I said, a stab in the dark because the last week was all rather bemusing.

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LostBoys

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BBC seem to be convinced that Adkins will be appointed very soon but then last week there were intimating it was Martin O'Neill. We will all have to wait but this is a depressing situation. I suppose if we had these results under Pardew he would be sacked shortly anyway. :(

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Ivan Katalinic's 'tache

Ivan Katalinic's 'tache

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BBC seem to be convinced that Adkins will be appointed very soon but then last week there were intimating it was Martin O'Neill. We will all have to wait but this is a depressing situation. I suppose if we had these results under Pardew he would be sacked shortly anyway. :(

 

And quite rightly so! This is primarily his team and they are either massively underperforming or simply not good enough. Can't believe we need another overhaul of the playing squad so it is surely the former.

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What time are the interviews likely to go up on the BBC or Scunny nespaper site ?

 

Be good to get an update,not to mention hear Nigel Adkins try avoiding the same question directed at him in about three or four different approaches from the interviewer.

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dubai_phil

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Something is very not right down at Staplewood. The best facilities in the League and teams are beating us that have one set of training kit between them. (Not belittling them but comparing)

 

The best squad in the league have a laughable pre-season (under Pardew) (thanks Alps)

 

They come out and play passionless football excluding Bristol) and again today seem to be lacking clinical thought or passion

 

Pardew & Wilkins play Connelly up front and let Lambert roam so we have hoofball to a midget.

 

Surely, if all these people are supposed to have all these coaching qualifications they should be able to get the players to pass an accurate ball into the box or have we brought a load of technical ballerinas with the mentality of a Goldfish?

 

Something wasn't right and it sure as hell is still showing. Don't think we need Adkins, think we need Ferguson, Wenger AND O'Neil.

 

This just seems so similar to our CCC relegation start - some *****ing, some hoping but the fact is the team then played "ooh it is nearly there football" and fell apart.

 

Am very very worried did NC leave it too late firing AP?

 

Another couple of weeks like this and the R word not Promotion

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thorpie the sinner

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Something is very not right down at Staplewood. The best facilities in the League and teams are beating us that have one set of training kit between them. (Not belittling them but comparing)

 

The best squad in the league have a laughable pre-season (under Pardew) (thanks Alps)

 

They come out and play passionless football excluding Bristol) and again today seem to be lacking clinical thought or passion

 

Pardew & Wilkins play Connelly up front and let Lambert roam so we have hoofball to a midget.

 

Surely, if all these people are supposed to have all these coaching qualifications they should be able to get the players to pass an accurate ball into the box or have we brought a load of technical ballerinas with the mentality of a Goldfish?

 

Something wasn't right and it sure as hell is still showing. Don't think we need Adkins, think we need Ferguson, Wenger AND O'Neil.

 

This just seems so similar to our CCC relegation start - some *****ing, some hoping but the fact is the team then played "ooh it is nearly there football" and fell apart.

 

Am very very worried did NC leave it too late firing AP?

 

Another couple of weeks like this and the R word not Promotion

 

Can't see Wenger or fergie coming, guess O'Neil will have to do, doh!!!!!!!

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OldNick

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Something is very not right down at Staplewood. The best facilities in the League and teams are beating us that have one set of training kit between them. (Not belittling them but comparing)

 

The best squad in the league have a laughable pre-season (under Pardew) (thanks Alps)

 

They come out and play passionless football excluding Bristol) and again today seem to be lacking clinical thought or passion

 

Pardew & Wilkins play Connelly up front and let Lambert roam so we have hoofball to a midget.

 

Surely, if all these people are supposed to have all these coaching qualifications they should be able to get the players to pass an accurate ball into the box or have we brought a load of technical ballerinas with the mentality of a Goldfish?

 

Something wasn't right and it sure as hell is still showing. Don't think we need Adkins, think we need Ferguson, Wenger AND O'Neil.

 

This just seems so similar to our CCC relegation start - some *****ing, some hoping but the fact is the team then played "ooh it is nearly there football" and fell apart.

 

Am very very worried did NC leave it too late firing AP?

 

Another couple of weeks like this and the R word not Promotion

True Phil , we will see if the club get in some new faces that NA wants. This squad is not good enough and all those who say we have the best in the league are deluded IMO.We cant even keep a clean sheet. Morgan is not good enough to be the main man in midfield and as for the lack of pace!!!!
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OldNick

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If you are right, the problem then is that we have run out of time for transfers and we are running out of the best choice in the loans.

If there is a transfer committee I would expect they would have got some names lined up.NA will also have some players in his mind

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If there is a transfer committee I would expect they would have got some names lined up.NA will also have some players in his mind

 

But as each day goes by there will be fewer options to bring in on loan.

 

There is also a credibility factor where some Prem Mgrs will question what the setup is to utilise their loanees.

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slickmick

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True Phil , we will see if the club get in some new faces that NA wants. This squad is not good enough and all those who say we have the best in the league are deluded IMO.We cant even keep a clean sheet. Morgan is not good enough to be the main man in midfield and as for the lack of pace!!!!

Or Hammond, he has been very poor.

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dubai_phil

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That's precisely the suggestion I made earlier in this thread.

 

Yeah but I only posted it now because I'm angry.

 

I think NC's reaction today by telling Solent about Reed is because I think any "Manager with Intelligence' would get his agent to research the club he is about to join. That research would then take in fans forums (in the same way we checked Scunny)

 

When you then have people with "strange" motivations repeatedly stating conjecture about the structure et al as fact then that can cause prospective managers to be wary.

 

How many times did we say MON wouldn't work for Les Reed. For all we know he may have believed that bollix and turned us down even IF it was not actually true

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Yeah but I only posted it now because I'm angry.

 

I think NC's reaction today by telling Solent about Reed is because I think any "Manager with Intelligence' would get his agent to research the club he is about to join. That research would then take in fans forums (in the same way we checked Scunny)

 

When you then have people with "strange" motivations repeatedly stating conjecture about the structure et al as fact then that can cause prospective managers to be wary.

 

How many times did we say MON wouldn't work for Les Reed. For all we know he may have believed that bollix and turned us down even IF it was not actually true

 

To be honest I doubt he'd take much credence from this or any other forum. What is true is that NC has managed in the space of what 3 months to **** virtually everyone off except a lot of people on this forum. That may have had an effect if he was ever interested....

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dubai_phil

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To be honest I doubt he'd take much credence from this or any other forum. What is true is that NC has managed in the space of what 3 months to **** virtually everyone off except a lot of people on this forum. That may have had an effect if he was ever interested....

 

NC obviously takes note though 8).

 

The statement in the week about the ST installment plan and the Statement today about Les Reed's role.

 

Now surely, you don't think that was ONLY aimed at the few fans listening to the pre-match build up on Solent?

 

We are NOT the font of (any) knowledge, we do not influence matters a great deal, however anyone considering taking a job at a senior level in any company will either ask his secretary/agent or fingers to do some googling.

 

This forum took it as read that NC withdrew the ST plan to annoy fans. That opinion was held by many fans who have never heard of a forum, we were wrong

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CanadaSaint

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Yeah but I only posted it now because I'm angry.

 

I think NC's reaction today by telling Solent about Reed is because I think any "Manager with Intelligence' would get his agent to research the club he is about to join. That research would then take in fans forums (in the same way we checked Scunny)

 

When you then have people with "strange" motivations repeatedly stating conjecture about the structure et al as fact then that can cause prospective managers to be wary.

 

How many times did we say MON wouldn't work for Les Reed. For all we know he may have believed that bollix and turned us down even IF it was not actually true

 

I'm with you on that, Phil.

 

All sorts of stupid, obnoxious and even libelous sh*t is posted on here by people who then try to excuse themselves by saying "It's only an internet forum - nobody takes any notice of it, and nobody from the club even reads it".

 

Utter bullsh*t. In this day and age it is THE medium for communication and everyone with any interest taps into forums like this - players, agents, managers and yes, even chairmen.

 

Reading what some of the idiots on here post I wouldn't just be "wary" - I'd be walking rapidly in the other direction. I hope to God that Adkins can look past it and see the opportunity because I think he's right for us.

 

Cortese doesn't want this dragging out, he wants to resolve it ASAP, but I think his hands might have been tied - possibly by probate issues, or executor issues, or maybe even family issues.

 

But by the same token I think Cortese needs to be a little more forthcoming - yet without feeling the need to explain everything he does, especially in regard to confidential or potentially legal issues.

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OldNick

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Exactly right, we do have a credibility problem in the eyes of other Clubs.
not from 30 managers who applied though As for B'mouth and Scunny , what makes you say we have a credibiltiy problem with them? We are no different than most other clubs we just think there is a problem
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