Echo says Adkins on brink of Saints job 2.30pm

[Appy]

Adkins eh? Still, it will keeps costs down. I give him 'til Xmas.

 

Deluded and clueless post.

[Saint Fan CaM]

What had Pearson achieved before he came to us? Not that much.

 

True - but that was then and this is now. Purely based on results, right now I would have Pearson over Adkins no question. However, clearly if Pearson was not able to work with the present set-up then he would not be right for the club.

[CanadaSaint]

I truly believe he won't be able to cope with the pressure on him from either Cortese or us the fans,he is someone who i expect to quite possibly get us out of this division then watch us stagnate in the championship,if we are lucky to achieve that imo.

Yo yo manager for what will become a yo yo club.

Not a long term appointment in my view.

I will own up to i wanted,Zola and Clarke working in tandem.

Every candidate has his propective faults and every supporter has his opinion,like it or lump it.

 

Not sure whether the "like it or lump it" was aimed at me, Lard, but I'll have more respect for an opinion (whether I agree with it or not) if there's at least some kind of rationale to support it.

 

"Appalling appointment if true,Shortsighted on the behalf of Cortese/Reed. He won't be here long." came up a bit short.

[Barry the Badger]

And I am highly sceptical that (despite his 'success' at Scunny) he has a good enough CV at this point in time to do the job needed here right now.

 

 

You what? So a manager who has TWICE done exactly what we are trying to do here, does not have a good enough CV for what we are trying to do here.

 

Hmmm.

[saint lard]

Tony Husband mentions Shearer could be in the running.I was led to believe he would be accompanied by Keegan if it were the case.

[Saints foreva]

Tony Husband mentions Shearer could be in the running.

 

Now that would be a joke of an appointment.

[saint77]

Now that would be a joke of an appointment.

he would command respect and could attract the right players

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[Turkish]

You what? So a manager who has TWICE done exactly what we are trying to do here, does not have a good enough CV for what we are trying to do here.

 

Hmmm.

 

in three seasons too i believe.

[lordswoodsaints]

The important questions i would be asking myself if it was my decision is has Adkins ever been under pressure at scunny? What is the expectation levels from the locals like because from day one he is going to be under extreme pressure to deliver this season and the expectation from us fans will surely be greater than he has encountered up there.....this is no way a dig at scunny fans it is just the reality of the job he is walking into....if the rumours are true of course.

[Verbal]

I wouldn't be surprised if Adkins' appointment is followed, by the end of the season, by some belt-tightening, with or without promotion. If it happens, it seems like an appointment designed to discourage the buy-it-to-fix-it thinking of the season just gone.

[S-Clarke]

This would be a great job for Shearer to jump onto the manager bandwagon, but only if he's backed up by an experienced head initially. I wouldn't want him riding solo...

[Miltonaggro]

Adkin's former mentor Alan Latchley speaking a few years ago on the 'Scunny way' (the three 'M's - Motivation, Motivation, Motivation!). I hope NC has seen this:

 

[Hopkins]

he would command respect and could attract the right players

 

Oh brilliant. So you don't think having some sort of tactical know how is needed? Some new ideas as a coach and a manager? He can't manage off his reputation. He tried that at Newcastle and failed miserably, with a squad that at the time should have stayed up. He doesn't bring anything else to the table other than his reputation, and certainly doesn't impress me as an energetic coach willing to work with players and improve them and nor has any of his punditry ever led me to believe he knows anything about world football or any tactical expertise.

 

He'd be the worst appointment for anyone, let alone us.

[derry]

The most important perspective, by far, is that our new manager sincerely embraces Cortese's philosophy - whether or not we personally agree with it.

 

I'd suggest that the key components of that philosophy are A) a reporting structure which holds the player development/academy side in balance with - not subordinate to - first team affairs, B) a committee approach to first team squad development, C) financial sustainability based on the funding made available by Cortese and the Liebherrs, D) clear progress towards a return to the Premier League within five years, and E) attractive football - the "Southampton style".

 

The sooner we all accept that these are the rules while Cortese is around, the better. Too many posters are screaming for someone who can't even tick the first box, and too many posters are dissing people who have a good chance of ticking all the boxes.

 

Brilliant, you must be feeling better.

[bender]

I reckon the OS is going to keep us waiting like they did for the new shirt. Tomorrow there will be an article entitled "The manager is coming" and then another next week entitled "just a little longer to wait"

[dune]

I reckon the OS is going to keep us waiting like they did for the new shirt. Tomorrow there will be an article entitled "The manager is coming" and then another next week entitled "just a little longer to wait"

 

Just a thought but wouldn't the protocol be for S****horpe to announce he is leaving before we announce he has joined us?

 

http://www.s****horpe-united.co.uk/page/Home/0,,10442,00.html

 

Edit: the link above won't work because of the "cvnt" in their name.

[IOWSaintDaz]

If Adkins is appointed Manager we can forget promotion this season in my opinion, O'Neil is the only one that could do it, but hope i'm proved wrong for Cortese's sake.

[PokingFun]

False. We were in disarray when he arrived and free falling to relegation. In an incredibly short time he installed confidence in the players and pulled it around, and in the end achieved 1.23 points per match (W3 D7 L3), finishing on 54 points. Leicester were relegated on 52 points, a record high amount. It is a complete myth that Saints were lucky to survive. No team in the history of football anywhere in the world have been relegated on 53 points, yet alone 54.

 

And we all know what happened when he joined Leicester, proving his (Lowe-loving) critics completely wrong.

 

We will have to agree to disagree. It is not correct to say we were in freefall either, well certainly would not have been if GB stayed. After he left we went straight into freefall.

[cadiz saint]

If Adkins is appointed Manager we can forget promotion this season in my opinion, O'Neil is the only one that could do it, but hope i'm proved wrong for Cortese's sake.

 

That's what I like an optimist!

[Armitage Shanks]

Don't mean to ruin everyone's fun but neither Saints or S****horpe have said anything. This thread is relying 100% on what the Echo has said and they've been wrong many times before. I have a gut feel that Cortese is wanting someone more high profile than Adkins

[Junction 9]

Whoever it is I shall be booing them from the very start as I already know they are rubbish.

[charliemiller]

Sorry but if Adkins is appointed it will be a travesty , we have had years of egotistical decisions being made to hold on to control and decisions made purely on the basis of fiscal prudence.

 

YES Adkins will be cheap to pay and the compensation will be little

YES He will be grateful ....bit like the fat bird in the group and will be subservient, a yes man just as Cortese wanted.

 

 

BUT

 

Keegan would come in a heartbeat....Yes he would cost more wages and he wouldnt be the yes man Adkins is ....but for once he is the manager this club deserves.

 

Big chance missed by Mr.Cortese to prove his ambition for the club.

[IOWSaintDaz]

You boo O'Neil he'll smack you in the kisser

[Window Cleaner]

If Adkins is appointed Manager we can forget promotion this season in my opinion, O'Neil is the only one that could do it, but hope i'm proved wrong for Cortese's sake.

 

crap, the players we have could get promotion if they are left to play as they are able, it's the negative tactics that f*ck us every time.Bet we could get promoted without a manager, but not with a bad one who's tactic is hoof it to Rickie all of the time.

[dune]

Sorry but if Adkins is appointed it will be a travesty , we have had years of egotistical decisions being made to hold on to control and decisions made purely on the basis of fiscal prudence.

 

YES Adkins will be cheap to pay and the compensation will be little

YES He will be grateful ....bit like the fat bird in the group and will be subservient, a yes man just as Cortese wanted.

 

 

BUT

 

Keegan would come in a heartbeat....Yes he would cost more wages and he wouldnt be the yes man Adkins is ....but for once he is the manager this club deserves.

 

Big chance missed by Mr.Cortese to prove his ambition for the club.

 

And how long would Keegan stay before he bottled it like he's bottled every job he's ever had?

[Toadhall Saint]

If Adkins is appointed Manager we can forget promotion this season in my opinion, O'Neil is the only one that could do it, but hope i'm proved wrong for Cortese's sake.

 

I hope (and think you will be) your wrong for Southampton Football Clubs sake.

[Appy]

If Adkins is appointed Manager we can forget promotion this season in my opinion, O'Neil is the only one that could do it, but hope i'm proved wrong for Cortese's sake.

 

I really doubt the footballing knowledge and common sense of some of our posters.

 

So you're saying that with the squad we have MON is the only man who could get us promoted?

 

Get real ffs.

[Toadhall Saint]

And how long would Keegan stay before he bottled it like he's bottled every job he's ever had?

 

This

[sadoldgit]

What if NC is more inclined to dip into the transfer market with a manager he can trust now ? Might make all the difference.

 

Shouldn't the manager be the one dipping into the transfer market? Still, I bet your wife is delighted that it isn't going to be Martin O'Neill Alps.

[gjphilsaint]

Don't you think that whoever is appointed will have promised NC promotion this season? Well it is the sort of thing you would expect to hear/say at an interview like this isnt it? So.. when the appointment is made, that is what NC will expect... and if Les reed is involved in the process he will also evaluated this against the applicants... so the stakes will be high.. as will be the expectation!!!

[Thedelldays]

Shouldn't the manager be the one dipping into the transfer market? Still, I bet your wife is delighted that it isn't going to be Martin O'Neill Alps.

bit out of order..?

[Dig Dig]

If Adkins is appointed Manager we can forget promotion this season in my opinion, O'Neil is the only one that could do it, but hope i'm proved wrong for Cortese's sake.

 

Ridiculous

[CanadaSaint]

bit out of order..?

 

I think SOG is referring to what Alps said he'd do to his wife if MON got the job.

 

You must have missed the post, lucky boy!

[JustMike]

I really doubt the footballing knowledge and common sense of some of our posters.

 

So you're saying that with the squad we have MON is the only man who could get us promoted?

 

Get real ffs.

 

i'll extend what the poster you quoted said....get us promoted from L1, get us promoted from Champ and keep us in Prem. Of those names that have been mentioned, MoN is the only one that could do it all. Which is how i read the OS statement after AP sacking.

[IOWSaintDaz]

i'll extend what the poster you quoted said....get us promoted from L1, get us promoted from Champ and keep us in Prem. Of those names that have been mentioned, MoN is the only one that could do it all. Which is how i read the OS statement after AP sacking.

 

Exactly......can you honestly say Adkins will achieve getting us through the Leagues to the Premiership and keep us there? i'm not so sure he could.

[eurosaint]

I support the Saints !

Managers come and go !

Players come and go !

CEO's are normally egotistical w*nkers !

I still support the Saints !

Amen.

[grammy]

Sorry but if Adkins is appointed it will be a travesty , we have had years of egotistical decisions being made to hold on to control and decisions made purely on the basis of fiscal prudence.

 

YES Adkins will be cheap to pay and the compensation will be little

YES He will be grateful ....bit like the fat bird in the group and will be subservient, a yes man just as Cortese wanted.

 

 

 

BUT

 

Keegan would come in a heartbeat....Yes he would cost more wages and he wouldnt be the yes man Adkins is ....but for once he is the manager this club deserves.

 

Big chance missed by Mr.Cortese to prove his ambition for the club.

 

Utter garbage imo. The first sign of any pressure on him and he would run a mile. Much as I respect Keegan I can't see anything positive he would bring us at this stage. We have no idea how any of the mentioned candidates would do but like it or not NC is here to stay for the foreseeable future, he has set up the structure and backroom staff at the club how HE invisages would be best for the long term stability of the club and will appoint who he feels is the best qualified man that will also fit in with his structure. We have no say unfortunately but I hope whatever happens we can give them our full support.

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

Here's a thought - what if Adkins has said/does say no? Where does that leave us then, assuming the bookies odds are correct?

[aintforever]

Adkins has a decent record but I fear for him under Cortese's "instant success or sack" policy.

 

I would have gone for a big name because they would have a greater instant impact and more likely to handle the pressure/expectation. With our squad I don't think the manager has to be a genius to get them out of this league, get the players organised and motivated and you are half way there IMO.

[Puddings and Monkeys]

Adkins has a decent record but I fear for him under Cortese's "instant success or sack" policy.

 

I would have gone for a big name because they would have a greater instant impact and more likely to handle the pressure/expectation. With our squad I don't think the manager has to be a genius to get them out of this league, get the players organised and motivated and you are half way there IMO.

 

How can you say he has an "instant success or sack policy"? He's only been here 5 mins and if what you say is true, surely he would have sacked Pardew at the end of last season.

[CanadaSaint]

Here's a thought - what if Adkins has said/does say no? Where does that leave us then' date=' assuming the bookies odds are correct?[/quote']

 

The longer this goes on then the less likely it is to be Adkins, IMO, and it's already gone longer than I expected.

 

If he turns us down, Cortese will be forced to compromise. What he won't compromise on, though, is the willingness to work within his structure.

 

He'll move on to the next new breed or European guy on his list, and I'm sure he already has a hierarchy of preferred candidates.

 

And, as scary as the thought is, I'd be surprised if Wilkins isn't above most of the big names mentioned on this thread.

[grammy]

Adkins has a decent record but I fear for him under Cortese's "instant success or sack" policy.

 

I would have gone for a big name because they would have a greater instant impact and more likely to handle the pressure/expectation. With our squad I don't think the manager has to be a genius to get them out of this league, get the players organised and motivated and you are half way there IMO.

 

"Instant sucess or sack policy" ?? He has sacked 1 manager and we have no idea why. If it had been based on results would AP not have come out fighting his corner and defending his slightly above average record? Still no comment from Pardew, I find that a bit strange.

[Matthew Le Tissier]

He's got the job already but they will officially appoint him tomorrow.

 

100%

[saint77]

He's got the job already but they will officially appoint him tomorrow.

 

100%

 

fingers crossed your wrong

[positivepete]

If Adkins has been touted for 24 hours it is definitely not him. MoN for me!

[saint77]

If Adkins has been touted for 24 hours it is definitely not him. MoN for me!

 

thats positive pete

[Thedelldays]

If Adkins has been touted for 24 hours it is definitely not him. MoN for me!

 

lol

[Turkish]

lol

 

maybe we are going to Elliot Ward him. Adkins sitting in his hotel waiting to be told where to go tomorrow, then rung up and told the deal if off and MON unveiled?

[Toomer]

maybe we are going to Elliot Ward him. Adkins sitting in his hotel waiting to be told where to go tomorrow, then rung up and told the deal if off and MON unveiled?

 

A song by Supertramp comes to mind...........................Dreamer..........................

[Chez]

If Adkins has been touted for 24 hours it is definitely not him. MoN for me!

 

MON isn't and never was coming here. If you get that in your head and then assess Adkins' credentials against say Brown or Andy Scott you might realise that he's not a bad appointment.

 

I fear for Adkins with so many Saints fans having this sort of opinion. The guy will be starting on the back foot already. He might be better off waiting a week or so until we have hit rock bottom, then a few more fans might appreciate his appointment.