Imagine you are Cortese

[martel]

Let's cut to the chase, imagine you are the man and you have interviewed every man and his dog for the managers job. Who do you choose from, to make this easier I will give you just two names to make your choice, bearing in mind that your five year plan now depends heavily on who you choose; which of course could mean that if you fail to get this right then the axe could be brought down on your own neck if you foul this up.

 

So the choices are

 

1) Adkins

 

2) Brown

 

 

My choice is Adkins simply because he has proven to do a good job with out a huge cheque book, something I always look for in a good manager.

[alpine_saint]

How did you come to these two names ?

[Block 5]

I don't like your choices.

If I am imagining that I am NC, I shall imagine that I'm firing you for giving me such shoyte choices.

[buctootim]

Definitely not Brown

[Saint Billy]

Why is'nt MoN in that list?

[martel]

I don't like your choices.

If I am imagining that I am NC, I shall imagine that I'm firing you for giving me such shoyte choices.

 

I am laughing at your post, like you, I do not like them, however, I do reckon it will be one of them regardless.

[martel]

How did you come to these two names ?

 

Just because I believe it will be one of them, that's all.

[Under Weststand]

Out of those 2 it would have to be Adkins. If your NC & those are the best 2 names you can come up with then you are the weakest link. GOODBYE!

[derry]

Just because I believe it will be one of them, that's all.

 

You may well be right Saints were given permission to talk to Adkins last night as he didn't apply for the job. S****horpe Telegraph/newsnow/Southampton/S****horpe

[MarkSFC]

So what you've actually done is wrap up the fact that you prefer Adkins to Brown in some rubbish about being Cortese.

 

Another pointless thread, well done!!

[for_heaven's_Saint]

Why the hell do we not like Adkins? A good young English manager who knows the league and has earned his chance at a bigger club. The sort of manager we used to appoint and do already with, a better prospect than Dave Jones was IMO. He's in a higher league than us and hasn't had a chance with a decent squad and some money yet.

 

The MON stuff was garbage, get over it.

 

Exactly, I'll be pleased if we appoint him.

[alpine_saint]

Why the hell do we not like Adkins? A good young English manager who knows the league and has earned his chance at a bigger club. The sort of manager we used to appoint and do already with, a better prospect than Dave Jones was IMO. He's in a higher league than us and hasn't had a chance with a decent squad and some money yet.

 

Nothing against him at all, and havent spoken out against him either. But he is not the strong profile that is going to settle this team quickly and get players to stay, it would seem

 

The MON stuff was garbage, get over it.

 

How do you know ? Why are you so certain ? What is your source ? Do you know if he was even spoken to ? Come on , you are stating it as a fact, something I am frequently criticised for (by you too)

[The9]

If I'm Cortese I'm thinking "mamma mia, these-a-clumpy-boots-a-messed-it-upagain-a".

 

© Me, all rights reserved.

[martel]

So what you've actually done is wrap up the fact that you prefer Adkins to Brown in some rubbish about being Cortese.

 

Another pointless thread, well done!!

 

All it was, with a bit of fun, was to try and get your opinions, not just mine, or are you saying that I am not entitled to have an opinion? One could say that all the threads regarding the new manager are pointless, as we are not the ones to make the decision anyway, Q.E.D. why have a forum at all.

[ChrisPY]

Do we not like adkins because

 

a) we know very little about his style?

b) he used to be a physio?

c) he doesn't look like a good manager? Little bit like Glenn Roeder

 

I think Adkins would be a great appointment but we need to get behind him if he gets the job. Too many people judging him without giving him a chance or learning about the way he likes to play football.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

'Imagine you are Cortese'.

 

Ok, let me get into character...

 

I'm a little Italian ***** who seem to like antagonising fans with acts of sheer stupidity.

 

And so I'd go for Brown.

[The9]

Do we not like adkins because

 

a) we know very little about his style?

b) he used to be a physio?

c) he doesn't look like a good manager? Little bit like Glenn Roeder

 

I think Adkins would be a great appointment but we need to get behind him if he gets the job. Too many people judging him without giving him a chance or learning about the way he likes to play football.

 

Personally to me he looks like a round peg to fit a square hole. If he can re-motivate our senior pros into instantly showing what we've already seen they're capable of then great, he'll already have proved he's got more skills than he's showed at Scvnthorpe, but if he wants to come in and flog them all because he's can't motivate experienced pros and is used to bringing through hungry U-25s, then we're going to go all George Burley 2006 and completely ar5e up our promotion chances for another year.

 

Personally I'd have stuck with the one we already had, consistency is underrated.

[Wopper]

As he has worked with donkeys and got them to play well Adkins would be a good choice.

[buctootim]

Betting taken off Skybet. Welcome Nigel.

 

http://www.walsall.web-fans.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=905:former-aston-villa-and-celtic-manager-martin-oneill-odds-slashed-for-southampton-vacancy&catid=5:league-one-news&Itemid=5

[MarkSFC]

All it was, with a bit of fun, was to try and get your opinions, not just mine, or are you saying that I am not entitled to have an opinion? One could say that all the threads regarding the new manager are pointless, as we are not the ones to make the decision anyway, Q.E.D. why have a forum at all.

 

Of course you are entitled to your opinion, opinion is why I come on here. But my opinion on this thread is that it is pointless and has a mis-leading title!!

[dubai_phil]

Ah bless, another thread on the same subject.

 

IF I was Cortese....

 

 

We wouldn't be in this mess as I would have done whatever was needed to ensure that WGS became our manager after he toured Staplewood last season, even if it meant canning some initial bits of the jigsaw that he may allegedly have not liked

[Robsk II]

I'm with The9 in terms of consistency. It's key, and without it you have to be lucky in the first season - even if you've got the longer term potential to excel.

 

I prefer someone like O'Neill, regardless of how unlikely this supposedly seems. The thing is, if it IS Adkins, that probably just means that he was the best of a limited field. There would be no point at all in bemoaning the relatievly low status appointment. It'll just be the reality, and to suggest will NC will have failed by not getting a triple A guy to manage a league one club would be nothing short of stupid. if he manages it, it'll be a coup; make no mistake about that. We can dream, and if those come off, great. No-one should be moaned at for having nice ideas, and with our money and potential - and getting rid of Pards - there is every right to expect something tangibly 'better'. Yet if, in the end, Adkins is the best name in the hat, then we'd best have Adkins. Of him, Brown and a few of the other names, he's the preferred option IMO. I'd take that, and I'd back him for a decent period, and give him a chance, barring the ridiculous.

Edited 8 September, 2010 by Robsk II

[ChrisPY]

Ah bless, another thread on the same subject.

 

IF I was Cortese....

 

 

We wouldn't be in this mess as I would have done whatever was needed to ensure that WGS became our manager after he toured Staplewood last season, even if it meant canning some initial bits of the jigsaw that he may allegedly have not liked

 

Why would Strach have needed a tour of somewhere he worked for a few years?

[Robsk II]

The heady, inebriating fragrance of nostalgia.

[Raging Bull]

According to Solent this A.M Brown is officially out of the running

[Topcat]

'Imagine you are Cortese'.

Ok, let me get into character...

I'm a little Italian ***** who seem to like antagonising fans with acts of sheer stupidity.

And so I'd go for Brown.

 

Hits the nail on the thread. But the little Italian probably prefers Nutkins who he thinks he will be able to dominate.

[del boy]

We can't imagine being Cortese making this decision because we don't know who he's interviewed or will interview, not to mention their dogs (who have been seen eating their Winalot, drawalot but losealot more at the Grand Harbour kennels this week)

 

We could just wait and see?

[sandwichsaint]

Why the hell do we not like Adkins? A good young English manager who knows the league and has earned his chance at a bigger club. The sort of manager we used to appoint and do already with, a better prospect than Dave Jones was IMO. He's in a higher league than us and hasn't had a chance with a decent squad and some money yet.

 

The MON stuff was garbage, get over it.

 

This.

 

I have to say when I saw on here that Pardew had gone the first three names that came into my head were, make of it what you will, were Adkins, Mowbray, Keegan.

 

Adkins has done a very tidy job at Scunny and deserves the chance at a 'big club', albeit one that is playing a league lower than he is currently operating in (shades of Grayson going from Blackpool to Leeds, that one didn't work out too badly). Certainly think 'the project' would be further on now if he had been appointed rather than AP at the start of last season.

[norwaysaint]

According to Solent this A.M Brown is officially out of the running

 

I can confirm that A.M. Brown is not in the running.

[Robsk II]

This.

 

This.

[badgerx16]

Imagine you are Cortese :

you'll be waking up next to the lovely Alexandra

[kpturner]

What is the point???

[the saint in winchester]

Let's cut to the chase, imagine you are the man and you have interviewed every man and his dog for the managers job. Who do you choose from, to make this easier I will give you just two names to make your choice, bearing in mind that your five year plan now depends heavily on who you choose; which of course could mean that if you fail to get this right then the axe could be brought down on your own neck if you foul this up.

 

So the choices are

 

1) Adkins

 

2) Brown

 

 

My choice is Adkins simply because he has proven to do a good job with out a huge cheque book, something I always look for in a good manager.

 

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OK, My choice is Brown simply because he has can attract premier league players who are proven to do a good job with/without out a huge cheque book, something Adkins could never do. With Adkins, we could attract no-one and would have to make do with what we have. With Brown, we could attract a better quality player as he has charisma, unlike Adkins, who looks like my GP.

[the saint in winchester]

Do we not like adkins because

 

a) we know very little about his style?

b) he used to be a physio?

c) he doesn't look like a good manager? Little bit like Glenn Roeder

 

 

All of the above!

d) too inexperienced - one problem, and he'll want to leave

e) couldn't cope with Cortese putting pressure on him

f) his name isn't even an anagram of Phil 'The Power' Brown or Martin 'The Way I See It' O'Neill.

[kpturner]

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OK, My choice is Brown simply because he has can attract premier league players who are proven to do a good job with/without out a huge cheque book, something Adkins could never do. With Adkins, we could attract no-one and would have to make do with what we have. With Brown, we could attract a better quality player as he has charisma, unlike Adkins, who looks like my GP.

More complete nonsense. Brown would be no more or less likely to attract players than Adkins. Players are more attracted to the money they might get and then the ambitions of the club than who the manager is.

[dubai_phil]

Why would Strach have needed a tour of somewhere he worked for a few years?

 

You tell me, but it was widely reported in the media and gossip columns on here at the time that he spent a day down here. Probably seeing what sort of mess he'd be left with on the training pitch if he had any brain

[the saint in winchester]

Imagine you are Cortese :

you'll be waking up next to the lovely Alexandra

 

Alexandra Burke?

[the saint in winchester]

More complete nonsense. Brown would be no more or less likely to attract players than Adkins. Players are more attracted to the money they might get and then the ambitions of the club than who the manager is.

 

Rubbish, yourself, Turner. Players look at the manager and decide if he has 'gravitas'. They will look at Adkins and think 'here today, gone tomorrow'. Nah, I'll stay where I am.

[sandwichsaint]

Rubbish, yourself, Turner. Players look at the manager and decide if he has 'gravitas'. They will look at Adkins and think 'here today, gone tomorrow'. Nah, I'll stay where I am.

 

Or: player approached to play for Saints - thinks...

 

Pros - decent money (presumably), decent facilities, decent crowds to play in front of, good chance to move up a league/secure bonuses etc.

 

Against - the manager (whoever it is) will quite possibly only be there for 12 months max

 

Decides - go for it ... more money etc... I'll deal with the manager situation when it happens.

[badgerx16]

Alexandra Burke?

From the ever unreliable Wikipedia -

Family

 

At the time of his appointment, Cortese was living in Ennetbaden,[1] Switzerland with his wife Alexandra and two children, then aged 6 and 4.[2] He has since moved his family to Hampshire.

[lordswoodsaints]

Let's cut to the chase, imagine you are the man and you have interviewed every man and his dog for the managers job. Who do you choose from, to make this easier I will give you just two names to make your choice, bearing in mind that your five year plan now depends heavily on who you choose; which of course could mean that if you fail to get this right then the axe could be brought down on your own neck if you foul this up.

 

So the choices are

 

1) Adkins

 

2) Brown

 

 

My choice is Adkins simply because he has proven to do a good job with out a huge cheque book, something I always look for in a good manager.

 

I don't know how you arrived at these 2 names but it is common knowledge that at least 2 prem managers were interested.....aim as high asbyou can afford is my moto.

[kpturner]

Rubbish, yourself, Turner. Players look at the manager and decide if he has 'gravitas'. They will look at Adkins and think 'here today, gone tomorrow'. Nah, I'll stay where I am.

I am trying to think of a polite way of saying "Total ********" but I can't.

[kpturner]

Or: player approached to play for Saints - thinks...

 

Pros - decent money (presumably), decent facilities, decent crowds to play in front of, good chance to move up a league/secure bonuses etc.

 

Against - the manager (whoever it is) will quite possibly only be there for 12 months max

 

Decides - go for it ... more money etc... I'll deal with the manager situation when it happens.

Precisely, that is what I was thinking when I said "Total ********" in my previous post :-)

[Saint Pete]

I don't know how you arrived at these 2 names but it is common knowledge that at least 2 prem managers were interested.....aim as high asbyou can afford is my moto.

 

But who's to say that those 2 prem managers would do a better job? At least Adkins has a proven record at this level.