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I can't believe some of the crap from people that talk about names but clearly have absolutely no idea about their qualities or history. If it was down to most people on this site neither Ted Bates or Lawrie McMenemy would have been given a chance and they were the bedrock that created this club managing for 30 years. Like O'Driscoll, Adkins has a good reputation for loyalty, yes, loyalty, and playing proper football. He was caretaker manager from Nov 2006 after 10 years as physio and immediately won div one and was made permanent, relegated then promoted again and stayed this time in the NPC. It would be well to remember that a physio took on a first division club and did the double when the FA Cup meant something.

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oh so was i, i was very happy with pard's appointment. I was just putting across that the general mood of most posters was a bit underwhelming at the time

 

Agreed - I remember it well. Pards just kind of made total sense when you thought about it (Prem experience, plus championship/league promotion under his belt - he ticked all the boxes)

 

But the general concenus when he was 1st appointed was disappointment... The same as when WGS got the job back in the day (Both of course had relegations to their names when appointed, I think)

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I can't believe some of the crap from people that talk about names but clearly have absolutely no idea about their qualities or history. If it was down to most people on this site neither Ted Bates or Lawrie McMenemy would have been given a chance and they were the bedrock that created this club managing for 30 years. Like O'Driscoll, Adkins has a good reputation for loyalty, yes, loyalty, and playing proper football. He was caretaker manager from Nov 2006 after 10 years as physio and immediately won div one and was made permanent, relegated then promoted again and stayed this time in the NPC. It would be well to remember that a physio took on a first division club and did the double when the FA Cup meant something.

 

Agree entirely. Surprised to read Adkins bio and the players that have emerged under or been given a first break by him: Andy Keogh, Billy Sharp, Jermaine Beckford, Martin Paterson, Jack Hobbs, Jack Cork, Gary Hooper just to name a few. Some managers have worked hard to get a proper shot at the big time; yet it is so easy to be blindsided by billy-big balls and ex-pros cross-dressing as managers.

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I can't believe some of the crap from people that talk about names but clearly have absolutely no idea about their qualities or history. If it was down to most people on this site neither Ted Bates or Lawrie McMenemy would have been given a chance and they were the bedrock that created this club managing for 30 years. Like O'Driscoll, Adkins has a good reputation for loyalty, yes, loyalty, and playing proper football. He was caretaker manager from Nov 2006 after 10 years as physio and immediately won div one and was made permanent, relegated then promoted again and stayed this time in the NPC. It would be well to remember that a physio took on a first division club and did the double when the FA Cup meant something.

 

loyalty is no use when chairman wants to sack you

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The BBC didn't mention a "wow factor" at any point. They said it would be an appointment which would show fans that Cortese knows what he is doing. Adkins would show this imo. He's proven at this level and he's young and probably looking to improve himself not just our team.

 

My personal problem with appointing a " big name" would be they'd come here set in there ways and be pretty stubborn with it. Which is all well and good in the short team and could lead to success but in the long term could cause problems, especially if things arn't working and with Cortese. I'd rather a young manager came here, willing to learn and try new things, be brave and experimental and for this to show in our play, as well as being successful. Howe or Adkins would be willing to grow with the team as we progress, i'm not overly sure an O Neil would. Plus with a big name, say O Neil (not that I believe it would be him), would be up for every job in the prem and England if they get rid of Capello any time soon and also Forest when they get rid of Davies later this year. It wouldn't be the most long term option and certainly wouldn't scream stability. I'd rather a manager came here, with something to prove and willing to look at us long term as a club he'd like to mould and take into the Prem, than someone we'd all be worrying would jump ship at the first sign of bad times.

 

totally agree with this..

 

howe or adkins would be smart appointments.....

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loyalty is no use when chairman wants to sack you

 

To be fair to Cortese it sounds to me that he did his best not to sack Pardew and realises that constant change isn't good. There are lots of candidates but very few that could fit the bill, Adkins is the sort of intelligent manager that probably could. I'm not sure that Phil Brown would.

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Before we all start accepting the of Adkins being a good appointment, always remember that this is Saints and every decision in our history bar about one was based on the maxim "who's the cheapest we can get?"

 

If it is Adkins then we have an even bigger skinflint running the show than Wupert ever was. Still he will be a good bet to get us out of the Fourth Division in 2012-13 if he isn't fired in the meantime.

 

I'm afraid the capture of KK back in the 70's was one of those strange events of history that defy logical explanation and will never be repeated let alone here in old S'ampton Town.

 

manager from above us is not just cheap option

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Adkins isn't going to have wouldn't have the impact of lifting the club and getting people back to St Marys (18k on Saturday). He also, for all his achievements, has a relegation on his CV.

 

We need stability and the club needs a lift. Giving the job to someone who has only managed a smallish club would be a big gamble on Cortese's part in my humble opinion.

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sounds like we are talking ourselves into believing Adkins would be a good appointment. Not the name that I would choose if I was trying to get the team into the premiership in 3 - 4 years, maybe he will work ok and maybe he will not.... feels like a luggy type appointment to me, done well somewhere so will do well here

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NC wants to appoint somebody for the long term, who is guaranteed to get us promotion this season and is young and english, and who isn't worried that Les Reed is holding the rains for his part of ship, which looks possibly larger than we thought. There are some contradictions here: Young and english doesn't guarantee promotion; success in L1 and even CCC guarantess nothing in the PL; and an established top class manager (O'Neill for instance) is unlikely to tug the forelock to Les Reed, to say the least.

 

A young, up and coming, english manager reminds of times gone by, when it was always the hope that somebody more or less unknown was to produce untold glory, hence the 13th manager... Such a manager would need a large shoulder to lean on, and I am unconvinced that this would be Les Reed.

 

It's therefore guaranteed that whoever gets appointed will not tick all the boxes. What does disappoint me is that the succession wasn't sorted before the axe fell. I felt certain that it had been.

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NC wants to appoint somebody for the long term, who is guaranteed to get us promotion this season and is young and english, and who isn't worried that Les Reed is holding the rains for his part of ship, which looks possibly larger than we thought. There are some contradictions here: Young and english doesn't guarantee promotion; success in L1 and even CCC guarantess nothing in the PL; and an established top class manager (O'Neill for instance) is unlikely to tug the forelock to Les Reed, to say the least.

 

A young, up and coming, english manager reminds of times gone by, when it was always the hope that somebody more or less unknown was to produce untold glory, hence the 13th manager... Such a manager would need a large shoulder to lean on, and I am unconvinced that this would be Les Reed.

 

It's therefore guaranteed that whoever gets appointed will not tick all the boxes. What does disappoint me is that the succession wasn't sorted before the axe fell. I felt certain that it had been.

 

Bert, Adkin has been around a long time he is only four years younger than Pardew but as far as I can tell a whole lot smarter.

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Dr Who?

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it makes me laugh all these people who have just had a text from their mate who has seen so and so at the airport/st marys/at the de vere/in a taxi but not one of these texters thought i'll take a photo with the camera on my phone. If they did then i may be inclined to believe them

 

Yes but then we would not have any posters on here!1

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What does disappoint me is that the succession wasn't sorted before the axe fell. I felt certain that it had been.

 

Not wishing to stir up a hornets' nest but I think it might have been - but back in May or June. Cortese's plan might have been to fire Pardew and hire Coppell. The flaw in that theory is that Coppell would not have been willing to "tug the forelock to Les Reed", as you so aptly put it. But Cortese seemed to have a very high regard for Coppell that (I think) pre-dated Reed, and perhaps Reed was to be sacrificed as well. Just a thought.

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gonzo

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Is there a costa at Southampton airport? Brilliant I never knew that.

 

Apparently there is. Not been to the airport in years myself, but I've been reliably informed that Phil Brown was there. Of course, as somebody else has suggested, he could just be down here because he wants to buy a boat.

 

Either way, I'm sure there's going to be a shedload of F5'ing going on tomorrow. I would but I can't access Saintsweb on my PC at work, and I won't be able to get away with browsing on my mobile tomorrow as our area manager is coming down for the day - the bastard!

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Just looked at the possible managers from the Premier League (according to SSN 2 have applied) and the only ones I can realistically see dropping from top flight management to League 1 are Roberto Di Matteo, Roberto Martinez & Ian Holloway. Apart from those, there are no others IMO who would resign and come here.

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