New manager announcement tomorrow

[for_heaven's_Saint]

I hear there's a great tanning salon in Eastleigh, explains Brown's presence.

[stevegrant]

Agree in general Steve and my concerns are the same as yours - just one thing tho' - did Adkins have the correct level of support/resources to better the 20th spot? If he was given the backing by NC do you think he would/could do better than 20th?

That's the thing, we genuinely have no idea, and as such it would represent a fairly significant risk.

 

For me I'd like to see Tony Mowbray or if we are really looking for wow then it would be Mr O'Neil.

Can't say I'm a massive fan of Mowbray, stubbornly sticking to West Brom's tippy-tappy football when they got promoted knowing damn well that they'd get battered by all and sundry. Also has a habit of just freezing players out. West Brom fans weren't too bothered when Celtic came calling, and then he made a complete pig's ear of things in Glasgow. O'Neill would be great, and definitely a major appointment and clear improvement on Pardew, but I can't see that one happening for a multitude of reasons.

 

At the end of the day I'll support whoever the club see fit to manage the first team.

Likewise, but I'll still be questioning whether we've taken a step forward with the appointment or not

 

The BBC didn't mention a "wow factor" at any point. They said it would be an appointment which would show fans that Cortese knows what he is doing. Adkins would show this imo. He's proven at this level and he's young and probably looking to improve himself not just our team.

I think the "wow factor" comments were made at the weekend?

 

While Adkins is proven at this level, he's unproven in the sort of circumstances he'd be walking into, i.e. massive expectation and pressure, big budget, big-name players, etc. That said, I'd quite like Phil Brown of the realistic names put forward, but he's proven to have made a mess of things with big-name players

 

My personal problem with appointing a " big name" would be they'd come here set in there ways and be pretty stubborn with it. Which is all well and good in the short team and could lead to success but in the long term could cause problems, especially if things arn't working and with Cortese. I'd rather a young manager came here, willing to learn and try new things, be brave and experimental and for this to show in our play, as well as being successful.

I'd have certainly agreed with that approach two years ago, when consolidation/survival was the aim. However, it's clear that the target is automatic promotion this season, which means we don't really have the time for someone to learn on-the-job and try new things. Somebody proven at this level and arguably in the Championship as well, preferably with experience of handling high expectations and/or big-name players.

 

Howe or Adkins would be willing to grow with the team as we progress, i'm not overly sure an O Neil would. Plus with a big name, say O Neil (not that I believe it would be him), would be up for every job in the prem and England if they get rid of Capello any time soon and also Forest when they get rid of Davies later this year.

The England job won't be available until after the Euros now, if the FA were going to sack Capello, they'd have done so after the world cup. Forest's a different matter, although that's the risk you take appointing anyone. As a completely random and unrealistic example, we could appoint Ryan Giggs as manager, he could do a great job for a year or two, and then he gets offered the Man United job. Those are the breaks. If a manager is poached by a club of a higher stature, it usually means the club has been successful under his guidance.

 

It wouldn't be the most long term option and certainly wouldn't scream stability. I'd rather a manager came here, with something to prove and willing to look at us long term as a club he'd like to mould and take into the Prem, than someone we'd all be worrying would jump ship at the first sign of bad times.

With the wall of silence coming from the club and the conclusions people have drawn from the sacking of Pardew, I don't think we're screaming stability right now anyway

[Toadhall Saint]

My mate has just updated his status on Facebook saying he met Phil Brown at Southampton airport about an hour ago. He really isnt the type to lie about this. Doesnt post on here so is unaware of all the other rumours apart from what he hears in the pub.

 

I just cant see it being anyone else now. If 5 Live say its already signed and sealed and will be announced midweek then what other reason could he possibly be flying in to Southampton for?

 

Very concerned...

 

I bumped into both Graham Souness and John Toshak at So'ton airport once.

[Meathead]

Cortese has big ambitions for this club and I think he will want a well known, been there done that manager. With a proven manager we should be able to attract better players on loan or transfers in the next window. My bet is either Zola, Mowbray or Keegan.

 

No disrespect to Adkins who I rate, but just putting myself in Cortese shoes and thinking he will go bigger IMO.

[TopGun]

Phil Brown fave with shortened odds.

 

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/southampton-specials/next-permanent-manager

[West End Saint]

My mate has just updated his status on Facebook saying he met Phil Brown at Southampton airport about an hour ago. He really isnt the type to lie about this. Doesnt post on here so is unaware of all the other rumours apart from what he hears in the pub.

 

I just cant see it being anyone else now. If 5 Live say its already signed and sealed and will be announced midweek then what other reason could he possibly be flying in to Southampton for?

 

Very concerned...

 

I have just been told by a mate who has a friend that is a Taxi driver that he picked Phil Brown up from the Airport and dropped him at a Hotel I know a friend of a friends monkeys unle and all that but I think it is true my mate is not a WUM dosent go on th internet himself no reason for him to lie.

 

Very underwhelmed

[saint_stevo]

Phil Brown ....hmmmmmm

 

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/8374583.Brown_new_Saints_favourite/?ref=rss

 

Skybet still have Adkins as fave-

 

http://www.skybet.com/betting/football/manager-specials/t10002896.html

[bjk]

Who are Scu nthorpes best players who'll be signing for us on loan next week.

[Bartosz Bialkowski]

Brown really looks the type that would end up boning a players wife though.... Can we trust him?

[Saint Charlie]

Despise Phil Brown and all he represents. But will support him if NC picks him.

[sussexsaint]

Oh to get back to football again

[ALWAYS_SFC]

The first, the very first task for the new manager is to make a connection with the bloody first team and get them responding. Transfers, biscuit expense account, secretary to ****, all are secondary.

 

If its Adkins, I am going to keep an open-mind, because I dont really know him or his abilities.

 

If its Mowbray or Howe, I will be quietly confident.

 

If its MON, I am going to jizz over my wifes face.

 

Anyone else and I am going to be disappointed.

 

What about Billy Davies,you used to get all excited about him.

[sambosa75]

I have just been told by a mate who has a friend that is a Taxi driver that he picked Phil Brown up from the Airport and dropped him at a Hotel I know a friend of a friends monkeys unle and all that but I think it is true my mate is not a WUM dosent go on th internet himself no reason for him to lie.

 

Very underwhelmed

 

Perhaps you'd take out 5 minutes to check my previous posts to see I have never claimed to be ITK.

 

That said, if a mate that I know well happens to see someone at the aiport who is in the frame for the vacant managerial position at the football club that I support, I dont think me posting it on a Southampton FC message board is the most outlandish thing in the world to do.

 

Given the fact that odds have also been slashed this afternoon when an announcement is due tomorrow I think it also happens to add a little more creedence but still, really witty post all the same. So, er, well done.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

Please not Phil Brown.

[hypochondriac]

if its MON I'll gladly join you.

 

If it's MON he can jizz on my face.

[angelman]

I thought that this was supposed to be accompanied by some sort of WOW FACTOR. All the names being mentioned as the favourite 2 or 3 (plus Zola) are distinctly un-wowish.

[Bartosz Bialkowski]

Please not Phil Brown.

 

Tough sh!t, looks like hes the one being deemed better than Pardew.

 

Happier with him than Adkins i think. Although, wont be rushing for a ticket

[Bartosz Bialkowski]

I thought that this was supposed to be accompanied by some sort of WOW FACTOR. All the names being mentioned as the favourite 2 or 3 (plus Zola) are distinctly un-wowish.

 

WOW was Chinese whispers HTH

[surrey1saint]

If it isn't MON,which I would very much doubt it is,then Adkins is good(ish) choice to get us promoted iMO.

 

COYR!

[West End Saint]

Perhaps you'd take out 5 minutes to check my previous posts to see I have never claimed to be ITK.

 

That said, if a mate that I know well happens to see someone at the aiport who is in the frame for the vacant managerial position at the football club that I support, I dont think me posting it on a Southampton FC message board is the most outlandish thing in the world to do.

 

Given the fact that odds have also been slashed this afternoon when an announcement is due tomorrow I think it also happens to add a little more creedence but still, really witty post all the same. So, er, well done.

 

I am not having a pop I have been told the same as you not taking the p 1 s s or trying to be clever I was told about him being picked up in a cab I am underwhelmed that it looks like we have been tango'd not by your post

[hypochondriac]

Oh god not Phil Brown. Not Zola either. Just pick a fantastic manager please NC and make me love you again.

[MarkSFC]

I bumped into both Graham Souness and John Toshak at So'ton airport once.

 

I bumped into Alan Ball at Southampton Airport a few weeks before he sadly parted!

[Crispypie]

If it's MON you can jizz over my f....... Oh... a step too far methinks!

[Nadia Sllim]

A Mr Brown is booked into the De Vere tonight.

[MarkSFC]

I have just been told by a mate who has a friend that is a Taxi driver that he picked Phil Brown up from the Airport and dropped him at a Hotel I know a friend of a friends monkeys unle and all that but I think it is true my mate is not a WUM dosent go on th internet himself no reason for him to lie.

 

Very underwhelmed

 

IF bronw is the manager I cant imagine he'd be left to get a taxi at the airport....Cortese would definitely send a car to keep it as quiet as possible!

[eesti matty]

At least we know that George Boateng won't be joining us!

 

[Saint J 77]

If it's MON he can jizz on my face.

 

IF it was MON I could not see it working out long term. Cortese might promise to not interfere but it wouldn't be long before he would do something to upset him and he would be off. Also every time a high profile job becomes available he would be the first name up for the job and we would struggled to hold on to him. Either way he would not be here long despite any assurances he would give us and then we would be back to square one. On paper it sounds a great idea but seeing how our chairman SEEMS to operate I am not sure it would work out between them long term. It would be like Rupert and Harry all over again.

 

Most likely will be either Phil Brown or Nigel Adkins. Out of those two I would prefer Nigel Adkins but neither of them really enthuse me as a choice for a long term replacement.

[Gorgiesaint]

Would be happy with Adkins - plays football the right way & deserves the chance to manage a bigger club. If its Phil Brown, I will not be happy.

[St Marco]

Whoever it is will get my support no matter what. But if it is Adkins then i can't help but think that is a big step down from Pardew. We are in league one and we must be realistic. We attracted a top manager in Pardew who could easily get any championship job he wanted and maybe even a few Premier League jobs. Saying we must settle on some guy who got a club promoted from the fourth division or a guy who got a club promoted from the third division i think is un-realistic. We are a big club, we have a big stadium with good attendances, we have some good players and we have supposedly a lot of money. Why should we be going for people who are used to smaller clubs, smaller ambitions and smaller pressure?

 

Both Adkins and Howe seem like decent guy's but this would be a huge gamble to appoint one of them. If our goal is to be promoted which is is then they will have to hit the floor running soon as they join. They won't get a pre-season, they won't get to sign players. They will have to get the best out of what we have got. Now that is what these guy's are known for, getting the best out of players with having no budget. But in all respect to the players they have managed they are not your Lamberts, your Lallana's etc... I wonder if they will be able to get someone like Lallana to sign a new contract? A big name manager obviously has a better chance. It is the same with recruiting players. Will people like Fonte drop down a division to play for us due to a manager once getting a team out of the 3rd division? Doubtful.

 

So while i will support him i think it sends a message that we might be about to try and do things on the cheap. If we are in for championship managers then why not try and get one of the better ones like Kenny Jackett who has had numerous promotions and seems to be doing well this season too.

[CanadaSaint]

Oh god not Phil Brown. Not Zola either. Just pick a fantastic manager please NC and make me love you again.

 

But he can't do that, though, can he Hypo?

 

Because too many people "hate" too many candidates.

 

And none of us knows who is the right guy until he gets here and starts doing (or not doing) the business.

 

I would bet a grand right now on it being Brown, and regardless of what I think of him I'm going to be 100% behind him.

[Saint Charlie]

Brown is so annoying and hard to respect. Did a good job with Hull for a bit and then a very **** job for a bit.

 

Would prefer Adkins of the two.

[HighcliffeSaint]

I don't think he was taking the pis*

Perhaps you'd take out 5 minutes to check my previous posts to see I have never claimed to be ITK.

 

That said, if a mate that I know well happens to see someone at the aiport who is in the frame for the vacant managerial position at the football club that I support, I dont think me posting it on a Southampton FC message board is the most outlandish thing in the world to do.

 

Given the fact that odds have also been slashed this afternoon when an announcement is due tomorrow I think it also happens to add a little more creedence but still, really witty post all the same. So, er, well done.

[Appy]

Looking Like Adkins or Brown, would be ncie to see Howe appointed, i think despite people's worries about his experience on here he would do very well with us. I don't like people saying that "Oh he was only done well with a small club and budget", like Howe and Adkins.

 

That makes them even more worthy of consideration IMO.

[bjk]

Phil Brown would be ok he's passionate if anything and he'd get the team fired up i'm sure and just think we'll be beating Arsenal at the Emerates in 2 years time.

[Waxer]

A Mr Brown is booked into the De Vere tonight.

 

So are Mr & Mrs Smith !!!

[warsash saint]

Please Sir, can i have Alan Pardew back ?

[saint lard]

Adkins? the only thing 'wow' about that would be 'wow i'm so underwhelmed'

 

If Cortese wants to show he knows what he is doing would be to install someone on par or above the ability of AP.

Ok,AP had his faults to some, but i was confident in his ability to get us promoted.

Adkins will get my support,of course, but i will take some convincing that he has the attributes of someone to take us through the leagues.

Would he command respect from the players immediately? would he still be here in a years time? will he cope with the pressure applied by Cortese?would he be able to entice top players here?........i will plump for 'no' to those questions posed.

He would not be the right candidate to take us forward and this would be a shortsighted appointment by Cortese.

All imo.

[hypochondriac]

But he can't do that, though, can he Hypo?

 

Because too many people "hate" too many candidates.

 

And none of us knows who is the right guy until he gets here and starts doing (or not doing) the business.

 

I would bet a grand right now on it being Brown, and regardless of what I think of him I'm going to be 100% behind him.

 

Yeah I know but I just wanted something unexpected to make me feel good about the club again. It'll probably be Phil Brown and I will just feel a bit disappointed. He's just a bit... embarrassing.

[Bartosz Bialkowski]

So are Mr & Mrs Smith !!!

 

A friend does their IT and just checked their booking system, there isn't a Brown or Smith. I'm ITK now and look down upon all of you.

[charliemiller]

If its Adkins or Brown I would be very disappointed , In my opinion they are not in the same league as Pardew and Corteses Knee Jerk reaction sacking Pardew may well cost us promotion this season.

 

IF and it is an IF the family is still supporting the club then it would be very easy to bring in a high profile manager with the WOW factor everyone talks about .......1 million bonus for promotion MON ???

 

MON , KK or Slaven Billic would be a true indication on intent from Cortese with regard to promotion this season. Anything else is a indication we may have shot ourselves in the foot or Cortese did.

[sugarbabe64]

ive been southampton but ive never been to s****hhorpe

[saint lard]

SSn Speculating it will be a european manager,with european experience....short list drawn up but that is all....someone might be in place by the weekend

[hypochondriac]

Brown is a good safety bet. If it's him I win, if it's not, well, I'd pay good money for it not to be him anyway.

 

Lol. Your logic is encouraging me to put some on him!

[pimpin4rizeal]

hope its not adkins. remember he got relegated in between his promotions so its not all good.

id rather have a manager we can stick with all the way to the prem.my choice would be sven

but id also behappy with o neil , leonardo. or hoddle

[Charlie Wayman]

Before we all start accepting the of Adkins being a good appointment, always remember that this is Saints and every decision in our history bar about one was based on the maxim "who's the cheapest we can get?"

 

If it is Adkins then we have an even bigger skinflint running the show than Wupert ever was. Still he will be a good bet to get us out of the Fourth Division in 2012-13 if he isn't fired in the meantime.

 

I'm afraid the capture of KK back in the 70's was one of those strange events of history that defy logical explanation and will never be repeated let alone here in old S'ampton Town.

[charliemiller]

Slaven Billic yeahhhhhhhh

[Appy]

Before we all start accepting the of Adkins being a good appointment, always remember that this is Saints and every decision in our history bar about one was based on the maxim "who's the cheapest we can get?"

 

If it is Adkins then we have an even bigger skinflint running the show than Wupert ever was. Still he will be a good bet to get us out of the Fourth Division in 2012-13 if he isn't fired in the meantime.

 

I'm afraid the capture of KK back in the 70's was one of those strange events of history that defy logical explanation and will never be repeated let alone here in old S'ampton Town.

 

If we were going for the cheap option we would appoint Wilkins, How would the cheap option be getting another club's manager who is under contract? Compensation needs to be paid.

[CanadaSaint]

Slaven Billic yeahhhhhhhh

 

Yeah, I'd take him in a heartbeat and he's said he'd love to manage in England, but I don't think he'd even think about a third tier entry point when he could easily get big Prem bucks.

[SaintRichmond]

Phil Brown ....hmmmmmm

 

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/8374583.Brown_new_Saints_favourite/?ref=rss

 

 

I think Cortese may be walking into a Trap

 

If he appoints Brown, Zola, Vialli, or anyone else who have "tasted" Top Level Prem Football, then rest assured, if they start to have success with Saints, they will be off like a shot when another offer comes along

 

If Cortese is expecting "Loyalty" all the way up to the Prem, he's living in cloud cuckoo land. Contracts are ony worth the "get out clause" unfortunately

 

UNTIL we get back to the Prem, we will shed loads of "successful" Managers, one way or the other

[the saint in winchester]

I just hope there is pomp and circumstance with the announcement ... cos I like pomp and circumstance.

There's a real drumroll feel about this appointment, so i don't want simply an OS announcement.

I'm hoping NC has booked Potters Heron, or maybe the De Vere, and invites the press along. Build up the tension to fever pitch, then announce "Ladies and Gentlemen of the Press, please be upstanding for our new manager, Mr ..... (insert name here) " !!!! And the new manager appears from behind the curtain, to an audible gasp of disbelief !!!!

 

Come on NC, surprise us! We want to be wowed!