Armitage Shanks Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 In this era of Skype and free Video Conferencing.... Don't you love the fact every candidate has been trained flown or hotel'd in for the interviews.... Again - for the Business Culture observers. NC came from the Banking Sector. 1) Create a Job Specification 2) Advertise said Job with the Description inviting applications 3) Use an agent/minion to sort out the applications from TSW members and find the 50 real ones 4) Read the CV's and letters of Application 5) Determine a Short List of Candidates 6) Check with Legal/HR regarding any potential "not allowed to tap up other club's managers without doing XYZ" rules 7) Clear Diary and inform Short List of the Date for the Interview. Interview to be a two way meeting - selling the club and buying the applicant Review ALL the interviews determine a first and second choice 9) Contact First and Second Choice to start discussion of detailed Contracts/termination clauses/Severance issues 10) Sign New Manager and Announce to the World with speeches prepared by PR & Marketing Departments So we had 50 applicants, perhaps 5 or 10 of them any single one of us with an ounce of knowledge of football would want to talk to, not just to interview but also out of interest and to learn. All 5 or 10 are told at the start how the process will work, you have to llok at all the options or the fans will murder you even more than usual for "Not looking into every possible option" The whole thing takes TIME and the fact that you have so many quality applicants means that at least half of them are spotted jetting in and out of hotels etc. That's how we all work roughly in the real world Phil. Not sure that football works like that. Lots of illegal approaches and underhand things going on. If Cortese hasn't learned that by now he soon will. He knows from Saturday's game that we need to get someone in quickly. We can't afford another three performances like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 If Adkins comes here, Phil Brown is likely to announce to the media that S****horpe has always been his spiritual home and that his only true ambition in football has been to manage the Iron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 If Adkins comes here, Phil Brown is likely to announce to the media that S****horpe has always been his spiritual home and that his only true ambition in football has been to manage the Iron. Get the impression hes a bit of a laughing stock up there. Seems like they've seen lots of local news stories about him that were not aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 1/9 then suspended. He has the job. Still open at 1/8 (1/4 on Victor Chandler) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntingdon Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 Why does everyone assume that candidates will come to Southampton for an interview I know for a fact that Pardew was interviewed in a hotel in Hook How do I know that? - because someone I know was there when ML and NC were chatting to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martel Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 Just been in for my Saints interview. Cortese, Reed and Wilkins sat behind a desk, I did a bit of a speech about my aims. Wilkins buzzed me, but I got two yes's from the others. Coretese said I was exactly what the competition was all about. Reed said I had "The Wow Factor". I'm through the next round. I had a girl friend years ago that had a W tattooed on each cheek of her back side, when she bent over it spelt WOW, is that what they mean by the wow factor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 I had a girl friend years ago that had a W tattooed on each cheek of her back side, when she bent over it spelt WOW, is that what they mean by the wow factor? You used to go out with Cher? (who famously has just that tattoo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 1/9 then suspended. He has the job. This makes me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 You used to go out with Cher? (who famously has just that tattoo). Martel was obviously the guy that put the "O" in "WOW". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 1/9 then suspended. He has the job. 1/8 now. NC has fired him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martel Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 You used to go out with Cher? (who famously has just that tattoo). Sadly no, and I was unaware that she had that as a tattoo, mind you how old is she now, unless she has had a serious butt lift thos W"s will look like a couple of little waves and blurred around the edges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 In this era of Skype and free Video Conferencing.... Don't you love the fact every candidate has been trained flown or hotel'd in for the interviews.... Again - for the Business Culture observers. NC came from the Banking Sector. 1) Create a Job Specification 2) Advertise said Job with the Description inviting applications 3) Use an agent/minion to sort out the applications from TSW members and find the 50 real ones 4) Read the CV's and letters of Application 5) Determine a Short List of Candidates 6) Check with Legal/HR regarding any potential "not allowed to tap up other club's managers without doing XYZ" rules 7) Clear Diary and inform Short List of the Date for the Interview. Interview to be a two way meeting - selling the club and buying the applicant Review ALL the interviews determine a first and second choice 9) Contact First and Second Choice to start discussion of detailed Contracts/termination clauses/Severance issues 10) Sign New Manager and Announce to the World with speeches prepared by PR & Marketing Departments So we had 50 applicants, perhaps 5 or 10 of them any single one of us with an ounce of knowledge of football would want to talk to, not just to interview but also out of interest and to learn. All 5 or 10 are told at the start how the process will work, you have to llok at all the options or the fans will murder you even more than usual for "Not looking into every possible option" The whole thing takes TIME and the fact that you have so many quality applicants means that at least half of them are spotted jetting in and out of hotels etc. That's what the HR people would like you to believe. More typically: 1) Create a Job Specification 1a) Speak 'off the record' with a suitable candidate. 1b) Re-shape Job spec to suit said candidate. 2) Follow HR process to satisfy Legal / Compliance (carry out some interviews to test the water) 3) Still happy with your choice? Appoint the guy you wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed demon Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 Proabably game over like Adrian said. Those odds are seriously short and it really is starting to look like it is Adkins. Feel a bit gutted to be honest, I think I was getting to wrapped up in the hype on here and because of that feel a bit underwhelmed. Hopefully he'll get usmoving the right way, get a few wins and i'll think he was a quality appointment. I wasn't that excited when WGS came here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 Wouldn't the odds be short because we've had to ask Scunny if we can interview Adkins? Asking for permission to interview is always going to get out into the public domain and this is pretty much the only snippet that the bookies have got to go on. With most of the other candidates they're all out of a job so can be approached freely and in secret. The odds are for who is appointed not who is interviewed! As such, maybe it's still game on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 Wouldn't the odds be short because we've had to ask Scunny if we can interview Adkins? Asking for permission to interview is always going to get out into the public domain and this is pretty much the only snippet that the bookies have got to go on. With most of the other candidates they're all out of a job so can be approached freely and in secret. The odds are for who is appointed not who is interviewed! As such, maybe it's still game on? I dunno, usually when they say they have permission to talk it's pretty certain they end up going. It's not in Adkins or S****horpe's interests for everyone to know he's spent all week sorting out an interview at another club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 I'm not saying that Adkins isn't going to be manager ( alrhough I wouldn't be impressed!!) but the odds of this type of Market almost always only reflect the amount of money laid. Scenario: rumours spread that "x" is being interviewed, and that "x" is likely. Major media outlet and local paper run stories that they "think" "x" is the man. A few people then have a punt....bookies slash price....more people read/hear stories then have a punt....bookies cut prices again....people see price is coming down quickly add in the stories and decide to have a punt....bookies slash price....etc etc! And very very likely to happen with any name on the back oa rumour!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire&skill Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 A five second Google, you lazy bstard. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A73969447 make of it what you will...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A73969447 make of it what you will...... hahaha... it's rocket! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A73969447 make of it what you will...... What I make of it is that Rocketswannie is a T W A T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisspahars Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 http://www.skybet.com/betting/footba...t10002896.html Say what you want about odds, but it doesn't go to 1/7 for no reason. I'd say it's 99.9% certain Adkins has the job. If you are not on a wind up that is maybe the best "Colemanball" i've ever heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A73969447 make of it what you will...... What's most impressive is how he maintains his sweaty-palmed earnestness and self-belief. Never once does he descend into parody or let the abuse get to him; got to give the dogged bugg*r credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martel Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 Martel was obviously the guy that put the "O" in "WOW". That is the most polite and politically correct way that anyone has called me a A-hole, thank you so much Saint Billy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 Adkins wastes no time in trying to do what his predecessor did by blowing a kiss at Mrs Fonte... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 ...uhm ... in over 1000s post the most accurate thing about this thread is the title.... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 ...uhm ... in over 1000s post the most accurate thing about this thread is the title.... ;-) FC in one line response shocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 fc in one line response shocker rofl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 I had a girl friend years ago that had a W tattooed on each cheek of her back side, when she bent over it spelt WOW, is that what they mean by the wow factor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 Well my sweepstake bet said it would Be Martin O'Neill at 1200 hours today. Wrong like all the posters on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverback Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 Adkins at 17.20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 Zola and Clarke announced ready for press release tomorrow morning...OS first of course.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 FC in one line response shocker Make that 2! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPY Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 1 more candidate to be interviewed this afternoon. 1 tomorrow morning. No news until evening tomorrow if terms can be agreed. I am ITK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 1 more candidate to be interviewed this afternoon. 1 tomorrow morning. No news until evening tomorrow if terms can be agreed. I am ITK OK, Mystic Meg.....is my fiver on KK for new manager looking good, or do I need to consider collecting on my bet that Pulis will be the next PL manager to leave (at 33-1)? Or both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 1 more candidate to be interviewed this afternoon. 1 tomorrow morning. No news until evening tomorrow if terms can be agreed. I am ITK And there we have it Boys & Girls. Finally after almost 100 pages on multiple threads, confirmation of what we REALLY knew all along It will all happen on a Friday. Phew can get to work on a zesty Penang Curry for Dinner tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 Why does everyone assume that candidates will come to Southampton for an interview I know for a fact that Pardew was interviewed in a hotel in Hook How do I know that? - because someone I know was there when ML and NC were chatting to him Tylney Hall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 1 more candidate to be interviewed this afternoon. 1 tomorrow morning. No news until evening tomorrow if terms can be agreed. I am ITK Are candidates still being interviewed because Cortese doesn't have his man yet or is Cortese interviewing everyone who made the shortlist as a matter of course and courtesy to the applicants, even if he's pretty much made up his mind that he's giving the job to one of the earlier interviewees? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 Zola and Clarke announced ready for press release tomorrow morning...OS first of course.. I can live in hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 Announcement will be this week. I repeat it is not Adkins or MoN. It will be a familiar face - not who you expect but an inspired choice. I think egg may have cracked this one! I'll get me coat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 I think egg may have cracked this one! I'll get me coat... Oi! You can't just say that and leave!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintedwill Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 will our press conference coincide with one in Cardiff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 I think egg may have cracked this one! I'll get me coat... That was a cracking yoke....Oh I mean joke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 will our press conference coincide with one in Cardiff? That crossed my mind earlier today. Would be an excellent appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromthedell Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 Roger Johnson on BBC South 10 o'clock news has just said the that "BBC South News understands that Alan Shearer wants the saints job' but said 'that Nigel Adkins is still favourite,' adding 'watch this space.' Make of it what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 I think egg may have cracked this one! I'll get me coat... Who are we shelling out for ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 Who are we shelling out for ? I believe we are looking to Poach someone from another club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 If Adkins comes to us, we might see him coming out of his shell a bit more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 this thread had my mind scrambled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 I believe we are looking to Poach someone from another club Maybe that bloke from Brighton and Hove Albumen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA77 Posted 8 September, 2010 Share Posted 8 September, 2010 Shearer would be like roy Keane when he joined Sunderland. And we won't have to poach him from another club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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