Alan Pardew Criticism Thread

[SaintRichmond]

yep I remember the look of pure disgust Markus had at Wembley when we won.

 

Most likely the same one as you, and the same one as me, but (again) you miss the point

 

The next day, when we woke up, we were STILL in Division !

 

I'll make no bones about the fact that I would have GLADLY forsaken Wembley for the few extra points we needed to get us in the Play Offs

 

I'm not just saying it, the Play Offs were the stated goal of Markus Leibherr and Cortese for the season

 

Because the Play Offs would have meant a chance to get back the the Championship

[doddisalegend]

Most likely the same one as you, and the same one as me, but (again) you miss the point

 

The next day, when we woke up, we were STILL in Division !

 

I'll make no bones about the fact that I would have GLADLY forsaken Wembley for the few extra points we needed to get us in the Play Offs

 

I'm not just saying it, the Play Offs were the stated goal of Markus Leibherr and Cortese for the season

 

Because the Play Offs would have meant a chance to get back the the Championship

 

We will have to agree to differ, for me watching the club win a trophy (any trophy) was more important than scrapping into the play offs and possibaly losing. The big clubs (and thats what we aspire to be) are more than capable of winning a cup and doing well in the league so should we al this one or the other is a bit silly. Blaming the JPT for not getting into the play offs is fine in hindsight but no one could predict at the time what effect it would have.

[oxfordshire_saint]

I agree with Alpine..........no, really.

 

I would've been more than happy to have seen Pardew given this season to get us up, as I think he would've done, because this division looks ****-poor this season. But I'm not going to miss him too much, provided we bring the right person in.

 

Pros - the players he did buy have pretty much all been decent

 

Cons - tactically inept/stubborn, ego

[up and away]

That would be the same for every team in the country wouldn't it? all teams look better with there best players playing any team that suffers a rash of injuries/suspensions of their best players is going to look poorer for it. Not many if any teams have the resources to put two first class teams out.

That is partly true, but what any good team does is to be capable of getting results when not playing like Brazil, that is the common feature of all successful sides, something we were never capable of under Pardew. The base that Pardew built our side around was never going to achieve that because we never had any sound defensive base to the midfield.

 

Again a common feature which highlights this is when we swarm all over teams and can't get the break through. Then eventually our attacking options are not enough to pen back the opposition and when they start to probe our midfield, they find an open door.

 

The system that Pardew has set up with the Saints team is never capable of delivering in the long term. We have clearly seen it is impossible to maintain through a heavy fixture list as you get in League 1 and you require far too many players at their best, it's not an effective use of resources for getting an automatic promotion place, top 6 yes, but only because you have such an abundance of talent in comparison to the opposition. It's going to reward you with those Hollywood games, equally the pub XI.

[Matthew Le God]

- Paul Lambert joined Norwich 4 weeks later than Pardew joined Saints

- Paul Lambert didn't have £3m+ to spend

- Take 10 points off Norwich and they would still be 1st, take 10 points off Saints and they are 7th

 

[Clifford Nelson]

Yes

 

Branfoot

 

He had a 100% record of being Krap ALL the time

 

With the reference to Fred West I must note that Branfoot seemed a very nice guy when I met him, and that he made me a cup of tea! Still a rather awful manager.

[Window Cleaner]

I agree with Alpine..........no, really.

 

I would've been more than happy to have seen Pardew given this season to get us up, as I think he would've done, because this division looks ****-poor this season. But I'm not going to miss him too much, provided we bring the right person in.

 

Pros - the players he did buy have pretty much all been decent

 

Cons - tactically inept/stubborn, ego

 

 

not totally in accord with your opinion concerning signings, Seaborne looks like a complete waste of space and Dickson has yet to show any real class, although he hasn't had much chance yet. Pardew signed a lot of old players (probably not all his fault) with ongoing injuries and then had to replace them urgently.I still believe that a really good manager would have got us to the play-offs at least last season and that's why I'm not sorry to see AP gone, especially after the first day home defeat.With us it's the same old problem, ts season and last, often we don't convert the chances we create against "park the bus sides" and although Barnard and Lambert are both prolific scorers they have often failed in these situations.We should have made a really nippy striker a big priority last January but we signed Barnard instead,we could have probably got Austin then if we'd tried hard enough.

[Wes Tender]

Here we go.

 

People usually with the argument that AP had an eye for a player - yes we signed some decent players but arguably anyone with a copy of Football Manager or a pot to p i $$ in on a HCDAJFU thread would have also identified them: Lambert, Fonte, Barnard, Puncheon - these were all established players that required a large purse not amazing superpowers to spot a diamond in the rough (for that see Pearson's record at Leicester). Of course, ot saying that's true across the board - Harding was a good find to the extent he was less well-known, though he had a decent CV at some big clubs. Antonio was definitely an excellent find. But where AP used his "discretion" or "knowledge", the jury is still out -Hammond, Seaborne, Otsemebor, Trotman. And just as important, there are the omissions - areas in the team -CM, a target-man, extra pace- that were crying out for reinforcement -as far back as Jan- but were ignored.

 

Pardew was not a terrible man manager - he seemed pretty adept at handling young English players like AL and keeping their feet on the ground; his impact on other young players is less certain - people say that Schneiderlin came on leaps and bounds under Pardew. I disagree - he was allowed to play more and more in his comfort zone and people may have confused improvement with dropping down a division; like Morgan, James, Wotton, Hammond and to a lesser extent Puncheon should have faced more competition and not be given such an easy run. Pardew was too passive and laissez-faire at times (just consider the timing of substitutions). Puncheon is interesting because it shows the Lallana effect in reverese: bigging up young English players can also blind you to poor performance and the need to take a grip. How well Pardew did with other types of players -say foreign players like Papa- also needs to be asked - again the record is more mixed.

 

Finally, and most important, is our playing style under Pardew (won't bang on about it again) but it has left us dangerously unbalanced and hostage to the form of Lambert -fantastic when he's fit and in form but a proverbial albatross when he's not. It needed only a dip in form or an injury (or two with Lallana) for this particular chicken to come home to roost. Saturday was only the culmination of a long-festering problem. In hindsight, it was wishful thinking to assume that none of the above would have happened sooner or later and makes it even more puzzling why appropriate measures earlier.

 

All in all, Pardew did a solid job but given the cash at his disposal and the weaknesses in our set-up, it was very much a case of diminishing returns. I appreciate some of what he's done, especially for steadying the ship but that may say as much about the neuroses of saints fans inured to expecting and fearing the worst. But Pardew was never indispensible. As others say, now time to move on and focus on a season that's still there for the taking.

 

A very well balanced and reasoned critique of Pardew's reign here. Agree with most of what you say.

[dune]

AP talked a good game, but in practice was an average manager at best. He should have been sacked last season. At Christmas we were in touching distance of the play-offs and even with the january signings he couldn't make up the gap.

[Wes Tender]

I fully expect the appreciation thread to run to more posts than the criticism thread.

 

After all, the poll still shows over half think it was wrong to sack him.

 

I just think the rose-tinting that everything was perfect under AP is totally disingenuous.

 

Wrong! This thread is outgunning the appreciation thread by almost 4-1 and there have been some duplicate posts on that thread which have also been posted here to boot. So perhaps the tide has turned because (a) people now hold some credence to the rumours that Pardew deserved to go and (b) in the cold light of day, there is optimism that we might yet appoint a replacement that will make Pardew's departure a blessing.

[PokingFun]

Well, I only look at results and this is his managerial record computed as points in the division operated.

 

Team From To Games Won Lost Drawn 3 1

Southampton 17/07/2009 30/08/2010 64 34 13 17 53.1% 20.3% 26.6% 1.59 - 0.27 1.86 85.53

Charlton 26/12/2006 22/11/2008 89 28 35 26 31.5% 39.3% 29.2% 0.94 - 0.29 1.24 56.85

West Ham 20/10/2003 11/12/2006 163 67 58 38 41.1% 35.6% 23.3% 1.23 - 0.23 1.47 55.72

Reading 13/10/1999 10/09/2003 211 102 57 52 48.3% 27.0% 24.6% 1.45 - 0.25 1.70 78.05

 

85 pts for us after a terrible start (and not his team imo), 78 pts for Reading (L1 and CCC) and more importantly 56 pts in the PL over 163 games for West Ham which was a magnificant achievement at a pretty small PL club. This record tells you that he is a good manager. There will be few outside the top 6 in the PL that would achieve such a decent and consistent record.

 

85 pts on average across a season would be near on automatic promotion even excusing the poor start last year. At the end of the day, I'm sorry to see him go based on his results and not anything else. However, he has gone so good luck to him and let's hope we get an appointment as good otherwise we'll soon be wishing we had him back.

[John B]

Wrong! This thread is outgunning the appreciation thread by almost 4-1 and there have been some duplicate posts on that thread which have also been posted here to boot. So perhaps the tide has turned because (a) people now hold some credence to the rumours that Pardew deserved to go and (b) in the cold light of day, there is optimism that we might yet appoint a replacement that will make Pardew's departure a blessing.

 

I think pardew should have gone this time last season but I am not so sure he should have gone now

[SaintRichmond]

We will have to agree to differ, for me watching the club win a trophy (any trophy) was more important than scrapping into the play offs and possibaly losing. The big clubs (and thats what we aspire to be) are more than capable of winning a cup and doing well in the league so should we al this one or the other is a bit silly. Blaming the JPT for not getting into the play offs is fine in hindsight but no one could predict at the time what effect it would have.

 

I admire your confidence in the Team. Leibherr/Cortese HAVE said that Pardew's main brief WAS to reach the Top Six. It is not just me going on about it. Don't forget, it has cost our Owners far more by still being in Div 1. NOW, even more resources had to be channelled into trying to get out this Season.

[PokingFun]

Wrong! This thread is outgunning the appreciation thread by almost 4-1 and there have been some duplicate posts on that thread which have also been posted here to boot. So perhaps the tide has turned because (a) people now hold some credence to the rumours that Pardew deserved to go and (b) in the cold light of day, there is optimism that we might yet appoint a replacement that will make Pardew's departure a blessing.

 

Or maybe people prefer (generally) to highlight their criticism rather than offer praise. Its standard human behaviour in most people to have a moan about things that don't go well but forget about when things are going well / have gone well. Anyone who manages people will probably agree with that statement unless they have been very lucky to have an ultra positive and talented workforce.

[SaintRichmond]

AP talked a good game, but in practice was an average manager at best. He should have been sacked last season. At Christmas we were in touching distance of the play-offs and even with the january signings he couldn't make up the gap.

 

Yes, within 6 points I believe. That fact alone should be stressed to all that either don't know it, or won't acknowledge it

 

Two months later we were more than 15 points adrift, as I recall

[SaintRichmond]

With the reference to Fred West I must note that Branfoot seemed a very nice guy when I met him, and that he made me a cup of tea! Still a rather awful manager.

 

Yes he was ................... though useless at laying concrete I believe

[SaintRichmond]

- Paul Lambert joined Norwich 4 weeks later than Pardew joined Saints

- Paul Lambert didn't have £3m+ to spend

- Take 10 points off Norwich and they would still be 1st, take 10 points off Saints and they are 7th

 

 

Excellent point(s)

 

Game, set and match I think

[Window Cleaner]

Yes, within 6 points I believe. That fact alone should be stressed to all that either don't know it, or won't acknowledge it

 

Two months later we were more than 15 points adrift, as I recall

 

because we lost at both Leeds and Colchester, needed at least 2 points from those games, no Morgan if I recall correctly and no doubt some unconverted chances that would have changed history, same as at Brentford and Wycombe I guess.

[SaintRichmond]

We will have to agree to differ, for me watching the club win a trophy (any trophy) was more important than scrapping into the play offs and possibaly losing. The big clubs (and thats what we aspire to be) are more than capable of winning a cup and doing well in the league so should we al this one or the other is a bit silly. Blaming the JPT for not getting into the play offs is fine in hindsight but no one could predict at the time what effect it would have.

 

I'm glad you are therefore perfectly happy to come along and watch the likes of Dagenham & Redbridge, Exeter, Hartlepool, Yeovil etc etc

 

Plus of course travelling away to support Saints

[hughieslastminutegoal]

Not perfect by any means, but we're a third division club, so expecting a Mourinho-esque manager is somewhat far-fetched.

 

Definitely agree that the pattern and timing of substitutions was often very odd (last season, taking Barnard off on 63 minutes in EVERY game when Lambert was knackered was very annoying), and the tactics away from home against lesser sides weren't anything special.

 

However, he'll have had very little input into the pre-season programme. Should definitely have signed another winger and probably another striker, but it's possible he might have either been trying to do just that before he was sacked, or was happy to wait until this week when the loan market would re-open, allowing us to bring in someone from higher up the football pyramid.

 

The sun definitely didn't shine out of Pardew's arse, but nor do I think we'll get anyone better in this division in terms of managerial ability, experience and success.

 

A fair enough assessment. However, doesn't some of what you say imply criticism of Cortese? But in my opinion it suggests more that Cortese knew he was going to get rid as soon as the Window shut, whatever.

[SaintRichmond]

because we lost at both Leeds and Colchester, needed at least 2 points from those games, no Morgan if I recall correctly and no doubt some unconverted chances that would have changed history, same as at Brentford and Wycombe I guess.

 

The damage had already been done by then

 

Six points away from Top Six at Xmas, we then went to 15 points away during March

 

Mathew Le God's post re Paul Lambert sums it up perfectly

 

Pardew's Team did not deliver, because their mind was on other priorities

[jam]

I think pardew should have gone this time last season but I am not so sure he should have gone now

 

You think he should have gone after a couple of months??

[Chez]

people seem to have very much made their minds up about Pardew, but I do want to point out that he made some decent substitutions that changed games to go along with his frustrating ones. There were several games where this had a direct impact on the game positively for Saints such as the Franchise FC game at SMS that saw us 0-1 down to a Puncheon goal and then Pardew brought on Antonio and Connelly just after half time and we scored five minutes later and went on to win 3-1. The Stockport game was another. It was 0-0 and he brings on Waigo after an hour and a minute later we score. Reading this back to myself it looks weak, as it could have been just luck and coincidence, but these subs were just at the right time and for the the right players and they did make a difference. They stuck in my mind as I can't think of many games over the years where the manager makes the right moves at the right time. Just offering a little balance here.

[Chez]

- Paul Lambert joined Norwich 4 weeks later than Pardew joined Saints

- Paul Lambert didn't have £3m+ to spend

- Take 10 points off Norwich and they would still be 1st, take 10 points off Saints and they are 7th

 

hard to argue with those facts but there was a slightly different starting point in terms of inherited squad quality if you ask me.

[alpine_saint]

people seem to have very much made their minds up about Pardew, but I do want to point out that he made some decent substitutions that changed games to go along with his frustrating ones. There were several games where this had a direct impact on the game positively for Saints such as the Franchise FC game at SMS that saw us 0-1 down to a Puncheon goal and then Pardew brought on Antonio and Connelly just after half time and we scored five minutes later and went on to win 3-1. The Stockport game was another. It was 0-0 and he brings on Waigo after an hour and a minute later we score. Reading this back to myself it looks weak, as it could have been just luck and coincidence, but these subs were just at the right time and for the the right players and they did make a difference. They stuck in my mind as I can't think of many games over the years where the manager makes the right moves at the right time. Just offering a little balance here.

 

hard to argue with those facts but there was a slightly different starting point in terms of inherited squad quality if you ask me.

 

We dont want no positivity here; you've got your own appreciation thread for "balance"

[stthrobber]

I think people should have a rethink about Pardew

 

He came to a Club that had been saved from extinction, had a massive Fan base, a great Stadium and a "Budget" to Build that would have been the envy of most Teams inn the CCC, let alone Div 1

 

The Owners, HIS employers, made no bones about the fact that they wanted a Top Six finish. This was not achieved, due in no small part to Pardew putting more emphasis on Cup competitions

 

All in all, with ALL that he had at his disposal, he did not set Div 1 alight

 

In my book, HE underachieved, and so did HIS Team. YES, I did enjoy my day out at Wembley, but, as I said many times, the reality was, that the NEXT day, we were STILL a Division One Team

 

THAT fact would have gone down like a Lead Boat with Markus Leibherr and Cortese

 

I know what you say here, but to be honest, we were a team of losers with a losing mentality when he arrived. He changed the mentality so that the players believed they were winners and didn't take to the field expecting to lose.

 

He certainly had the resources that other clubs could only look at and envy

 

If his brief was to get into the play offs and win, then he failed, and should have been sacked then.

 

From my point of view, whilst not the be all and end all of football managers that we've had, I will look back on his tenure with fondness and with a positive view.

 

However, he has gone now and imo it is pointless debating the pros and cons endlessly because whatever I say, I will not change anyone's opinion if they have made their mind up that he was a poor manager

 

Other clubs can rightly say that his time there was a disaster etc, but I don't think that would be fair of his time with us

[stevegrant]

- Paul Lambert didn't have £3m+ to spend

Paul Lambert didn't need to spend £3m on players, he had a squad that should never have been relegated in the first place, and had been strengthened by his predecessor with the acquisition of Grant Holt (for £500k), among others. Don't be fooled into thinking Norwich spent nothing last season.

 

- Take 10 points off Norwich and they would still be 1st, take 10 points off Saints and they are 7th

Suggest you have another look at last season's league table

 

-10 for Norwich would see them finish 2nd, only promoted on goal difference.

 

If we'd not been deducted 10 points, we'd have been 5th, playing Charlton in the play-offs, although there's another caveat to add there, as I think it's highly unlikely we'd have made wholesale changes to the starting lineup for the Gillingham game. The 10 points back and 3 from the Gillingham game would have seen us promoted on goal difference ahead of Leeds.

[Alain Perrin]

I think Saint's managers, and managers in general fall into three categories:

 

- Motivators - who get the best out of a team through motivation and instill a will to win.

- Tacticians - who can out think the opposition and make tactical changes to make a difference.

- Transfer specialists - who can pick a player.

 

I think Pardew has, on balance, signed good players. Yes he's had a lot of cash to spend, but that can always be spent on tatt. He's motivated the squad, not to a Gordan Strachan level, but got them out of a vicious circle of losing (we need to be careful that that doesn't embed itself again). I don't rate him as a tactician, we were too one dimensional and he was a 65 minute substituter (which I think marks out poor tactical managers - similar to Dave Jones and Strachan in this regard).

 

Hoddle was a great tactician, you could guarantee that if we went in under the cosh, he'd change things at half time and we'd come out better for it. Hoddle though signed some right duffers and he wasn't a motivator.

 

My point is Pardew wasn't all good, and wasn't all bad. At this level, without lucking out on a young manager, you're not going to get all three.

 

Here's hoping whoever NC gets can score at least 2.5!

[alpine_saint]

I think Saint's managers, and managers in general fall into three categories:

 

- Motivators - who get the best out of a team through motivation and instill a will to win.

- Tacticians - who can out think the opposition and make tactical changes to make a difference.

- Transfer specialists - who can pick a player.

 

I think Pardew has, on balance, signed good players. Yes he's had a lot of cash to spend, but that can always be spent on tatt. He's motivated the squad, not to a Gordan Strachan level, but got them out of a vicious circle of losing (we need to be careful that that doesn't embed itself again). I don't rate him as a tactician, we were too one dimensional and he was a 65 minute substituter (which I think marks out poor tactical managers - similar to Dave Jones and Strachan in this regard).

 

Hoddle was a great tactician, you could guarantee that if we went in under the cosh, he'd change things at half time and we'd come out better for it. Hoddle though signed some right duffers and he wasn't a motivator.

 

My point is Pardew wasn't all good, and wasn't all bad. At this level, without lucking out on a young manager, you're not going to get all three.

 

Here's hoping whoever NC gets can score at least 2.5!

 

I would argue that Lawrie was a motivator and a transfer specialist.

[Doctoroncall]

hard to argue with those facts but there was a slightly different starting point in terms of inherited squad quality if you ask me.

 

That's what I thought but Lambert changed the starting eleven quite dramatically from the players that Gunn bought/brought in. It just goes to show what impact a manager can have on a squad.

[Saints foreva]

Without that JPT win his time here would have been a disappointment.

 

He underachieved here, anyone who doesn't think he did really should look at the League One table when Leeds had -15 despite spending no money.

[shurlock]

people seem to have very much made their minds up about Pardew, but I do want to point out that he made some decent substitutions that changed games to go along with his frustrating ones. There were several games where this had a direct impact on the game positively for Saints such as the Franchise FC game at SMS that saw us 0-1 down to a Puncheon goal and then Pardew brought on Antonio and Connelly just after half time and we scored five minutes later and went on to win 3-1. The Stockport game was another. It was 0-0 and he brings on Waigo after an hour and a minute later we score. Reading this back to myself it looks weak, as it could have been just luck and coincidence, but these subs were just at the right time and for the the right players and they did make a difference. They stuck in my mind as I can't think of many games over the years where the manager makes the right moves at the right time. Just offering a little balance here.

 

True - and remember both games well. Stockport as much highlighted how far Papa could change a game and there were many other examples where he was introduced far too late or not at all.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

In the name of balance, of course, since this is a open-minded site, and since we arent allowed to balance on the appreciation thread.

 

I shall start :

 

Tactically one-dimensional

Clueless about substitutions

Wasted our big summer of preparation with low-key transfers and a bizarre line-up plan for the friendlies.

 

One Big YAWN of a thread

He has gone get over it,just wait a while and you will have someone else to slag off

and be able to fill the forum with your unquestionable knowledge of the games

gleaned from the match posts:rolleyes:

[grammy]

Alpine, what a Mong, know you haven't been there to see it (as usual) but we have been **** since he went, is that not enough for your agenda?

 

I''ve been there and to be honest we weren't much better before. We still created enough chances Sat to have won, no different to Plymouth/Orient

[thornhill_saints]

I emailed this guy on the echo who said email if you want details......heres what he said

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/8374583.Brown_new_Saints_favourite/

 

My son works with a senior steward at st.marys and he said pardew was playing around with Fontes missus.Fonte apparently went to see Cortese with proof of this and he was sacked on the spot.That is the agreement he struck up with Pardew that if he leaves immediatley it will not become public and therefore Pardew would work somewhere else.Thats why Pardew has not come out and said anything.And thats why NC looks so angry when the fans shout about Pardew

[sadoldgit]

Erm, no. If people are allowed to post sychophantic sh*t-stirring threads, I feel duty bound to provide "balance".

 

No Alpine, you feel duty bound to be an utter ar*e.

[Thedelldays]

I emailed this guy on the echo who said email if you want details......heres what he said

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/8374583.Brown_new_Saints_favourite/

 

My son works with a senior steward at st.marys and he said pardew was playing around with Fontes missus.Fonte apparently went to see Cortese with proof of this and he was sacked on the spot.That is the agreement he struck up with Pardew that if he leaves immediatley it will not become public and therefore Pardew would work somewhere else.Thats why Pardew has not come out and said anything.And thats why NC looks so angry when the fans shout about Pardew

 

 

i too know someone who works at the club and have heard the same thing...(although, not the particular player involved)

[Deppo]

He's a fat loser and he has body odour

[thornhill_saints]

i too know someone who works at the club and have heard the same thing...(although, not the particular player involved)

 

Trouble is he done the same thing at West Ham, with Roy Carols misses......and they done the same..

[eelpie]

 

He was a planner not a decisive, reactive manager.

 

egotistical

 

Perhaps he would have made a good DOF (had he got on with NC)

 

And are the any successful managers who don't have egos?

[alpine_saint]

One Big YAWN of a thread

He has gone get over it

 

You of course posted the same thing on the "appreciation thread" for Hamilton Saint, didnt you ?

[sadoldgit]

I emailed this guy on the echo who said email if you want details......heres what he said

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/8374583.Brown_new_Saints_favourite/

 

My son works with a senior steward at st.marys and he said pardew was playing around with Fontes missus.Fonte apparently went to see Cortese with proof of this and he was sacked on the spot.That is the agreement he struck up with Pardew that if he leaves immediatley it will not become public and therefore Pardew would work somewhere else.Thats why Pardew has not come out and said anything.And thats why NC looks so angry when the fans shout about Pardew

 

So the other two were ****ging his missus too?

[buctootim]

So the other two were ****ging his missus too?

 

They were advising on tactics and helping with the warm up.

[thornhill_saints]

So the other two were ****ging his missus too?

 

But the were his coaching staff... dont shoot the messenger, i'm only sharing the information i received in the email...

[up and away]

Originally Posted by thornhill_saints

I emailed this guy on the echo who said email if you want details......heres what he said

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/837...nts_favourite/

 

My son works with a senior steward at st.marys and he said pardew was playing around with Fontes missus.Fonte apparently went to see Cortese with proof of this and he was sacked on the spot.That is the agreement he struck up with Pardew that if he leaves immediatley it will not become public and therefore Pardew would work somewhere else.Thats why Pardew has not come out and said anything.And thats why NC looks so angry when the fans shout about Pardew

i too know someone who works at the club and have heard the same thing...(although, not the particular player involved)

 

 

Have you looked at Fontes missus, then looked at Pardew? Did she work on some porn site specialising in the elderly?

[Deppo]

Pardew is a VERY good looking man. Don't be afraid of it.

[sadoldgit]

In the name of balance, of course, since this is a open-minded site, and since we arent allowed to balance on the appreciation thread.

 

I shall start :

 

Tactically one-dimensional

Clueless about substitutions

Wasted our big summer of preparation with low-key transfers and a bizarre line-up plan for the friendlies.

 

Tactically astute enough to win a cup and would have made the play off but for the -10.

Given the points he racked up that is questionable.

He sat on a committee including Cortese and two others but feel free to blame him. As for the friendlies how do you know he had anything to do with arranging them?

 

Got anything else?

[sadoldgit]

But the were his coaching staff... dont shoot the messenger, i'm only sharing the information i received in the email...

 

So they gave him coaching in sh*gging Fonte's missus? Wilkins must be gutted he missed out on all the fun!

[alpine_saint]

Tactically astute enough to win a cup and would have made the play off but for the -10.

Given the points he racked up that is questionable.

He sat on a committee including Cortese and two others but feel free to blame him. As for the friendlies how do you know he had anything to do with arranging them?

 

Got anything else?

 

This is a criticism thread. Take your incessant whining elsewhere.

[graveworm]

AP talked a good game, but in practice was an average manager at best. He should have been sacked last season. At Christmas we were in touching distance of the play-offs and even with the january signings he couldn't make up the gap.

 

Totally agree.................. I am delighted he left.