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Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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Why exactly ???

 

Don't you think he is advising Cortese ???

if he is....is that a problem...?

seeing as we dont have a manager, NC would do well to listen to various people before making a choice..

benjii

benjii

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Why exactly ???

 

Don't you think he is advising Cortese ???

 

I sincerely hope not. Good musician, sure, but what does he know about League One? I wouldn't even trust him to appoint a Prem manager TBF, despite his ESPN subscription. And you can't be sure he's off the Daz either.

benjii

benjii

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if he is....is that a problem...?

seeing as we dont have a manager, NC would do well to listen to various people before making a choice..

 

Yeah, but not washed up singers. That's just madness.

SaintRichmond

SaintRichmond

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if he is....is that a problem...?

seeing as we dont have a manager, NC would do well to listen to various people before making a choice..

 

I agree, but surely not somepne who did so well at Charlton

 

One could argue that whilst Cortese knows zilch about Football, Reed knows even less, yet he is in Pole Position at St Mary's

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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I agree, but surely not somepne who did so well at Charlton

 

One could argue that whilst Cortese knows zilch about Football, Reed knows even less, yet he is in Pole Position at St Mary's

 

pardew did well at charlton too...........ooops

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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The parady was that Reed was less than useless at The Valley

 

harold redknapp was less than useless here...

some people are not managers.....look at brian kidd and sammy lee...always get top TOP 2nd role jobs..but are no good in the hot seat

SaintRichmond

SaintRichmond

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harold redknapp was less than useless here...

some people are not managers.....look at brian kidd and sammy lee...always get top TOP 2nd role jobs..but are no good in the hot seat

 

Saints were the ONLY team that he has managed that he has not advanced

Saint Charlie

Saint Charlie

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Look, Reed is here to stay some might as well get used to it. He is well respected within football and has some nous, afterall he created the Pro License.

 

The key here is that the new manager will know what his role and Reed's will be there will be trust in the process. Then this system can work. Too often in the DoF role he is brought in and then upsets the manager who doesnt like it. In this situation that wont happen so it should work fine.

 

For some interesting insight on this see this guys twitter who has worked as a scout and footy consultant.

 

http://www.twitter.com/karlsentk

 

He replied to my question on suggestions for our new manager saying, 'Les Reed is a fine football man. He won't need my tips or reccomendations.'

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Saint Fan CaM

Saint Fan CaM

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Saints were the ONLY team that he has managed that he has not advanced

 

Not only that, but given a free-hand (i.e. no Lowe and Woodward circus) and the proper resources (i.e. the ones Burley had), he would have got us back into the Prem f'sure.

Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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Not only that, but given a free-hand (i.e. no Lowe and Woodward circus) and the proper resources (i.e. the ones Burley had), he would have got us back into the Prem f'sure.

 

The problem with Redknapp was he was the right person at the wrong time. I still believe we should have appointed him instaed of Branfoot,he'd done a great job at Boscombe and could handle big players, like Lawrie did. He'd have kept Jimmy Case and got Matty playing. The other benefit is the Skates would proberly have stayed grubbing along in the lower leagues.It was before he went to West Ham, we should have taken him.

Wade Garrett

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Reed has been found wanting whenever he has operated at the top level of the game. If the main attribute on his CV os that he devised the Pro Licence, then big deal. Most top pro's, or coaches could have done that.

 

Let's face it, if his coaching and work at the FA was so good, chances are he would be working at a top Premiership club.

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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Reed has been found wanting whenever he has operated at the top level of the game. If the main attribute on his CV os that he devised the Pro Licence, then big deal. Most top pro's, or coaches could have done that.

 

Let's face it, if his coaching and work at the FA was so good, chances are he would be working at a top Premiership club.

 

that last bit is a bit daft..like saying if pardew was any good he would not have come to saints but gone to a top premiership club..

or lambert is also crap as he is not at a top premiership club..

lallana is also a dud then..?

Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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that last bit is a bit daft..like saying if pardew was any good he would not have come to saints but gone to a top premiership club..

or lambert is also crap as he is not at a top premiership club..

lallana is also a dud then..?

 

Not really. Reed has had his chance at the top level and was spat out. Pardew applied for the Saints job because he was out of work. Lambert signed for us to further his career - there was no interest from the Premier, and Lallana will play football at the top level one day.

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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Not really. Reed has had his chance at the top level and was spat out. Pardew applied for the Saints job because he was out of work. Lambert signed for us to further his career - there was no interest from the Premier, and Lallana will play football at the top level one day.

 

pardew was also spat out....right..?

les reed is not really a manager..hence why he has done it briefly and with no success..

 

as much as brian kidd is not a manager or sammy lee...or brian eastick etc....ALL have top TOP coaching jobs in the game...but give them the hot seat and they simply cannot do it...

 

we are in division 3 ffs

Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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pardew was also spat out....right..?

les reed is not really a manager..hence why he has done it briefly and with no success..

 

as much as brian kidd is not a manager or sammy lee...or brian eastick etc....ALL have top TOP coaching jobs in the game...but give them the hot seat and they simply cannot do it...

 

we are in division 3 ffs

 

Brian Kidd and Sammy Lee do have top coaching job....Les Reed hasn't.

 

FWIW, I think Les Reed is an outstanding appointment to oversee the Academy structure. That is where his strengths lie.

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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Brian Kidd and Sammy Lee do have top coaching job....Les Reed hasn't.

 

FWIW, I think Les Reed is an outstanding appointment to oversee the Academy structure. That is where his strengths lie.

 

if you think reed is an outstanding appointment...where is the problem..?

del boy

del boy

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You're not alluding to A.S are you ??

 

If you knew as much as the rest of us you wouldn't have to ask :smug:

 

All I can say is......no I can't say

 

 

 

Oh, sh!t, Ive started playing these stupid games myself now ... lets all just knock it on the head shall we, and just wait and see.

Block 5

Block 5

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Who do you think he will appoint as Manager ???

 

I used to enjoy your posts but you have become a bore.

On the plus side, I've never had so many people on ignore.

SaintRichmond

SaintRichmond

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I used to enjoy your posts but you have become a bore.

On the plus side, I've never had so many people on ignore.

 

Pain in the 'rse I could accept

 

But a "bore" ????

 

Oh the shame

 

PS If I'm on ignore, how do you read my posts ???

Block 5

Block 5

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Pain in the 'rse I could accept

 

But a "bore" ????

 

Oh the shame

 

PS If I'm on ignore, how do you read my posts ???

 

 

It was this tedious thread that prompted the use of the ignore button.

Naturally I have delayed deployment until after reading your witty response.

I shall still check in from time to time to see if you are back to form.

In the mean time, adieu.

leftback

leftback

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this man is looked upon as a laughing stock by most proffessionals and would not be appointed by any manager,can squirm into suit jobs when interviewed and talk management gobbledeegook

Who do you think he will appoint as Manager ???
ALWAYS_SFC

ALWAYS_SFC

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Alpine Saint as he knows more about the events of all games despite seeing virtually none first hand

than those that regularly attend "live" matches.

He can manage from Austria without ever having to come over,think of the cost saving there...

 

He can tell the attitute,effort,ability,of each player from a forum with a liitle bit of saints player commentary

thrown in....outstanding!!!

He will know who to pick,who to sub and to add to all that he knows precisely what NC wants

 

Appoint Alpine he will make us good again....

ALWAYS_SFC

ALWAYS_SFC

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you all laugh at alpine..i do believe you all laughed when he predicted a slow start and lack of signings

 

how could he be so right when he does not see live games..?

 

Prediction/guesswork is all well and good but

He posts his opinion of the games he does not see as fact that is the laughable part.

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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Prediction/guesswork is all well and good but

He posts his opinion of the games he does not see as fact that is the laughable part.

 

but he is not talking about an individual game on this thread (that i started)

please stay on topic

VectisSaint

VectisSaint

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Reed has been found wanting whenever he has operated at the top level of the game. If the main attribute on his CV os that he devised the Pro Licence, then big deal. Most top pro's, or coaches could have done that.

 

Let's face it, if his coaching and work at the FA was so good, chances are he would be working at a top Premiership club.

Any facts to back up this assertion? If you mean when he took over as manager of Charlton then you are so deluded. Yes he was crap at that job, but then he has never planned to be a manager. Check out the facts and you will see that even when Pardew took over after Reed's brief spell in charge he could not turn things around and Charlton were relegated. This doesn't mean Reed is wanting at the top level. He is one of the most highly respected coaches in England and internationally (coach, not manager please note). He has not been applying for managers jobs or coaching jobs for years because he was running his own very suucessful consultancy firm, why would he want to give that up for the risks and uncertainties of a club job. Clearly the SFC role did appeal and he has taken it on. Designing the UEFA Pro Licence is not and never has been his crowning glory. Like Nigel Pearson he has been involved at many levels of England coaching, indeed he is one up on NP because he has coached at EVERY level, whereas NP has only got as far as U21 so far. This is a man used to working with kids, young players and top international stars. Dismiss him as useless only if you know nothing about football.

 

That said, the Charlton affair may explain if AP and Les Reed do not get on I guess.

sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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if he is....is that a problem...?

seeing as we dont have a manager, NC would do well to listen to various people before making a choice..

 

If he listens to Reed and Reed has some responsibility for Pardew going then perhaps he is listening to the wrong people?

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