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Professor

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Did I imagine it? Did this man ever work for Southampton FC? Did he play any part in the last 12 months?

 

I only ask because this name seems to have been erradicated from the Club's memory. Not a mention on the OS. Not a word in today's programme. Did Cortese do his training in Communist China?

Saint_clark

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There was a programme today ? Excellent, they didn't bother with a proper one on Tuesday. The fcking turds.

 

Because of the low turn-out, they didn't see the point. :rolleyes:

Teams get less than 8000 as an average gate and still produce a programme ffs.

Daren W

Daren W

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Did I imagine it? Did this man ever work for Southampton FC? Did he play any part in the last 12 months?

 

I only ask because this name seems to have been erradicated from the Club's memory. Not a mention on the OS. Not a word in today's programme. Did Cortese do his training in Communist China?

 

Not just that, what's more worrying is the way some posters on here have turned on Pardew. Now apparently he's a terrible manager and we'd struggle to be mid table with him.

 

How we've changed; from the manager who took us to Wembley to win our first bit of silverware in 30 years, to being this messageboard's whipping board... it's really rather shameful...

Bucks Saint

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Not just that, what's more worrying is the way some posters on here have turned on Pardew. Now apparently he's a terrible manager and we'd struggle to be mid table with him.

 

How we've changed; from the manager who took us to Wembley to win our first bit of silverware in 30 years, to being this messageboard's whipping board... it's really rather shameful...

 

 

Spot on

Smirking_Saint

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He's the guy all the far kin numb nuts were singing about today.

 

Qeue me being slammed again... :lol:

 

No its true.

 

fickle ******s, they boo him in the first few games and now sing his game as if he is god, can't make it up.

 

Well done to the Northam for getting behind the players. On the pitch on the pitch and pardew pardew.

 

FFS

Smirking_Saint

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Speak for yourself.

Winning a trophy at Wembley over getting thrashed in Old Trafford anyday.

 

I won't forget Wembley, it was a cracking day out.

 

But the JPT is nothing to sing and dance about, its a low league trophy.

 

My Reading supporting mate, when i slat his team for having no history bangs on about the sydnahms cup or whatever it was called back then. It is a nothing tin pot trophy and cost us NPC status.

Michelle

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Old hat.

 

The "online" programme from Tuesday night also had exactly the same scenario - Kelvin Davis, Dean Wilkins notes made no mention of him by name or title.

benjii

benjii

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Not just that, what's more worrying is the way some posters on here have turned on Pardew. Now apparently he's a terrible manager and we'd struggle to be mid table with him.

 

How we've changed; from the manager who took us to Wembley to win our first bit of silverware in 30 years, to being this messageboard's whipping board... it's really rather shameful...

 

:lol:

 

Swap "Pardew" with "Cortese" and you might have a point.

alpine_saint

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Not just that, what's more worrying is the way some posters on here have turned on Pardew. Now apparently he's a terrible manager and we'd struggle to be mid table with him.

 

How we've changed; from the manager who took us to Wembley to win our first bit of silverware in 30 years, to being this messageboard's whipping board... it's really rather shameful...

 

Probably due to the most underwhelming pre-season in the history of the club.

 

I reckon the impression many are left with is that on the eve of the beginning of what was supposed to be OUR season we were less prepared than we have ever been.

Chez

Chez

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Please don't refer to it as the EPL, it's the PL. I bet you call it soccer as well?

 

Acronym misuse won't be a problem for long with you keeping watch.

Chez

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Speak for yourself.

Winning a trophy at Wembley over getting thrashed in Old Trafford anyday.

 

speak for yourself, I'd of swapped the JPT trophy for just a play off place without a second thought. Tin pot trophy that I almost felt embaessed to admit that we had won. I just wonder if we had put a little less effort into that competition the maybe we would have won the games we needed. I still see Saints as bigger than that. Perhaps that won't last too much longer.

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RobM

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I've never been embarrassed about winning the JPT and never will. Realistically it's the biggest cup competition a L1 club can win. But I would have gladly traded that for a play off place.

ALWAYS_SFC

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AP will be remembered for the JPT & ummmm thats it!

 

Maybe he could also be remembered for signing Lambert,Fonte,Harding,Barnard etc and for getting the best

out of Lallana,Scniderlien but no doubt that will all be down to NC and his man Read.:rolleyes:

 

Pardew did a good job here and those that say he didn`t are just doing it to suit agenda`s

 

I wonder how well they will remember AP if we get saddled with a mug....oh, i know they will praise him because

he is NC`s man.

benjii

benjii

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What was your view on Rupert Lowe and his time at Southampton Football club?

 

I thought he was too frugal.

 

He made some good managerial appointments - Dave Jones, Hoddle (at the time) and WGS but when we needed to press on he, for some reason, took the cheap option with Wigley when he'd already decided he'd made a mistake with Sturrock. If we'd appointed a half decent manager and spent a bit of cash on a centre back we I don't think we would have got relegated.

 

He later compounded these mistakes with his ludicrous attempts to play the saviour when he ousted Crouch which may ultimately prove to have done more harm than we could have imagined at the time (I'm pretty confident we would have won the play-offs last season but the minus ten put paid to that and I'm pretty sure Crouch and Pearson would have kept us in the Championship without losing the support of the bank).

 

So, overall, I think he was poop as he failed to capitalise on some relative success and then appeared to go mental towards the end causing all manner of damage.

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shurlock

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Maybe he could also be remembered for signing Lambert,Fonte,Harding,Barnard etc and for getting the best

out of Lallana,Scniderlien but no doubt that will all be down to NC and his man Read.:rolleyes:

 

Pardew did a good job here and those that say he didn`t are just doing it to suit agenda`s

 

I wonder how well they will remember AP if we get saddled with a mug....oh, i know they will praise him because

he is NC`s man.

 

Pardew signed players that anyone with a copy of Football Manager and a voice and a pot to p i $$ in on a HCDAJFU thread would have identified: Lambert, Fonte, Barnard, Puncheon - these were all established players and required only a big purse not amazing superpowers to spot a diamond in the rough (for that see Pearson's record at Leicester). Yes, Harding was a good find to the extent he was less well-known, though he had a decent CV at some big clubs. Antonio was definitely an excellent find. However questions have to be asked about players that involved greater managerial discretion and knowledge -Hammond, Seaborne, Otsemebor, Trotman - all of these are probably better measures of AP's player-finding ability. And of course, there are the omissions - areas in the team -CM, a target-man, extra pace- that were crying out for reinforcement -not only in the Summer but also Jan- but were ignored.

 

I agree Pards got the best out of Lallana - I think Pards was very adept with young English players and trying to keep their feet on the ground; however, I disagree about Schneiderlin who was allowed to play more and more in his comfort zone over Pardew's reign (and it helped he droppped down a division); by the same token, players like James, Wotton, Hammond and to a lesser extent Puncheon should have had more competition and not be given such an easy run. Puncheon is interesting because it shows the Lallana effect in reverese: bigging up young English players can also blind you to poor performance or the need to give them an occasional kick up the ar $e. How well Pards did with other types of players -say foreign players like Papa- also needs to be asked - again the record is more mixed.

 

Finally, and most important, is our playing style under Pards (won't bang on about it again) but it has left us dangerously unbalanced and dependent on Lambert -fantastic when he's fit and in form but a liability when he's not. It needed only a dip in form or an injury (or two with Lallana) for this particular chicken to come home to roost. Yesterday was only the culmination of a long-festering problem. In hindsight, it was wishful thinking to assume that none of the above would have happened sooner or later and makes it even more puzzling why appropriate measures were not taken by Pards.

 

All in all, Pards did a solid job but given the cash at his disposal and the weaknesses in our set-up, it was very much a case of diminishing returns. I appreciate some of what he's done but he was never indispensible and its time to move on and focus on a season that's still fresh and there for anyone's taking.

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