RonManager Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 cant remember the poster but was it not called football forum finder? http://www.footballforumfinder.com/ There you go.
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 There is just something about him that makes him stand out IMO. It's too soon to tell how good he could be, be what's he's done with the Cherries is a minor miracle. I'd gladly welcome him aboard, however, I hope they aren't just going for him because they percieve him to be a push-over. Could not agree more, a young manager with a bright future ahead of him I'd say. Signing a manager like Eddie Howe could be seen as a risk as there's no real way of knowing how he will handle managing better players and coping against better opposition. But his record at AFC Bmth is outstanding, and there's something to be said for having a manager who has never experienced failure yet, or learned to 'play it safe'. I saw him interviewed on BBC South Today this week, and while he didn't confirm any interest from SFC he most certainly was quite careful not to rule out the possibility either. Reading between the lines, I took that to mean we could get him if we really tried hard enough. Risky for sure, but some risks may be worth taking.
RonManager Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 link? who did the fan forum thread a while ago? Can't find it http://www.footballforumfinder.com/
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Would prefer an up and coming manager like Adkins or Howe to a down and dying one like Brown or Hart.
The boy done well Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Interesting. I think that developing the "Southampton Style" referred to by NC does come into this-not only with the first team but throughout the club from the academy upwards. So it needs to be a manager who "buys" into this. It seems quite likely that AP did not. I think Eddie Howe plays as good a passing game with width and pace as he can get from basement price players and they certainly seem to be able to score goals. Don't really know anything about Nigel Adkins game but if he's of the same ilk all well and good. I seem to recall our Championship games against Scunny having been a bit dour though.
hypochondriac Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Interesting and surprising. Especially considering what I heard from him. It would still surprise me if he took the job. As I said previously though, stranger things have happened and I would welcome him. Chance to be a star here.
sfc4prem Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 However...I don't feel good about taking someone else's gaffer. You'll have to get over it mate, because the managers without jobs are much less inspiring that those currently in employment (bar Martin O'Neill, who we won't get anyway).
derry Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 A proper footballing manager even if he is young he knows what makes a team work. I prefer the sort of football he believes in.
RonManager Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 A proper footballing manager even if he is young he knows what makes a team work. I prefer the sort of football he believes in. Could you expand on that please?
alpine_saint Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 The good news for me is that NC has a short-list and is interviewing. I would expect an announcement before next weekend.
MarkSFC Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Howe is a difficult one I think, potentially very good but it's a gamble. But then as others have said every management appointment is a gamble. The trouble being for managers like Howe, he wouldn't get alot of time ( from the fanbase) to get results, 2 or 3 games initially. He would have to build trust very quickly. Someone with more of a history of success would get longer before the trust element would deminish. The other thing for me about Howe is that although he had a pressure of sorts, he couldn't actually lose last season. Wherever they finished would have been ok under the circumstances but he did do a fantastic job. Taking on Saints would immediately put him under extreme pressure and under a spotlight that he hasn't previously experienced. How he would cope is anybodys guess....well Corteses ultimately it would seem.
Smirking_Saint Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 I would be happy with Howe, plays good football, will be hungry to improve and push on. Plays attractive football and has done wonders at AFC B with no budget.
beatlesaint Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Isn't Howe one of Redknapp's boys like Pulis and Cotterill ? One of those good old 'Arry puts his arm round and offers him advice....or am I doing him a dis-service ?
benjii Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Interesting and surprising. Especially considering what I heard from him. It would still surprise me if he took the job. As I said previously though, stranger things have happened and I would welcome him. Chance to be a star here. He'll never join, he hates us...
Deppo Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 A proper footballing manager even if he is young he knows what makes a team work. I prefer the sort of football he believes in. I agree with this. For me, Howe does things old school and that is important to me. Like you Derry, I prefer the sort of football he believes in. I love football. Football is a cruel mistress. She's more than a mistress. She's a wife, she's a mother, she's a daughter, she's an errant child. She can make you laugh, she make you cry. She can bring tears me eyes. She can bring blood to me shoulders.
teamsaint Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Interesting. I think that developing the "Southampton Style" referred to by NC does come into this-not only with the first team but throughout the club from the academy upwards. So it needs to be a manager who "buys" into this. It seems quite likely that AP did not. I think Eddie Howe plays as good a passing game with width and pace as he can get from basement price players and they certainly seem to be able to score goals. Don't really know anything about Nigel Adkins game but if he's of the same ilk all well and good. I seem to recall our Championship games against Scunny having been a bit dour though. the home game that we won 1-0, they played us off the park. We won it with a good move by Surman finished off by Rasiak. Scunny played really well, bu they couldn't finish, mostly, if memory serves, because their two best strikers had beem sold.
Saint Charlie Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Howe is a good, good manager who has achieved success. He speaks well, never points the finger at referees and will shoulder blame, and he learns. His teams play proper football and the players like him. Would much prefer to Phil Brown, Hart, Curbishley etc who are on the way down. Eddie Howe will be a Prem manager so he might as well do it with us!
saint michael Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Most of the discussion and mood on here on a saturday is dictated by the result, so interesting comments about the type of footballl Howe would play. I am not sure there would not be much forgiveness if he had 3 or 4 losses on the trot, I don't think we would be hearing people say he is young and developing then. I think whoever comes in will be expected to hit the ground running and be able to deal with the huge expectation (rightly or wrongly) which has built up around this year. This is why most times the reduced risk of bringing in an experienced manager is the route clubs will take, and I think we will follow. Having spent time around a pro club in the past, there are no certainties and a lot of unknowns when somebody comes in. I have to say that I feel really confused on who I think could come in and deliver from the lists I have seen, and who I would really want. I have to say somebody like Dave Jones at Cardiff, loyal and gets the best out of his teams is the model we need.
CB Fry Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Would prefer an up and coming manager like Adkins or Howe to a down and dying one like Brown or Hart. Phil Brown was an up and coming manager eighteen months ago, which funnily enough was around about when Howe took over at Bournemouth in his first job. Let's not assume that all the current "up and coming managers" will continue to be successful forever, and anyone who had a setback is never going to achieve anything again. Hart, however, is pretty much proven to be toilet.
Saint Charlie Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Bournemouth interviewed Phil Brown a couple of years ago but went for Kevin Bond instead.
Scudamore Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 He'll never join, he hates us... Well obviously not if he's been for an interview. He's ambitious and was sorely tempted by the Peterborough job as I understand it. Think he made the right choice not to take that one. Don't think he'd turn us down though if he's offered the job.
hypochondriac Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 He'll never join, he hates us... I never said that. Don't really care what you say, I was there and heard it myself.
proevosaints Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Being from bournemouth my only reservation with howe was his closeness to bournemouth and thus being aware of the supposed rivarly certainly their end. However he is a fantastic manager, the stories ive heard from bournemoth about what hes done there are second to none. Also his style of football is exactly the way NC wants us to play and he plays good young players giving anyone willing to work hard a chance and motivation and getting the best out of people that really have struggled or been overlooked. Never been as impressed by such a young manager and tindall in the assistant manager role. Often overlooked how well they did often playing with a squad of 13. However i was concerned with how(e) he would do with a big squad and money to spend but if he can find players who do well with no money should be a doddle
Smirking_Saint Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Isn't Howe one of Redknapp's boys like Pulis and Cotterill ? One of those good old 'Arry puts his arm round and offers him advice....or am I doing him a dis-service ? Wouldn't be a bad thing, as much as i hate the saggy faced wheeler dealer 'awight mayte' c*nt. You can't deny he is a good manager and seems to get the best out of players.
lambertsrightleg Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Nigel Adkins is somebody who I have been very impressed with whenever I've seen him on the television. Would prefer him here to any of the others previosuly mentioned. Phil Brown is too head strong for what Cortese wants to do, much the same as Pardew.
Noodles34 Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 puts paid to any superstar manager (as continually speculated on here by the usual suspects) then, if this is the likes of who we are interviewing, Jesus, we are getting rid of Alan Pardew for Eddie Howe (wasn't he a skate at one point?), ****ling ****e.
Ed Rooney Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Exactly Pardew goes and we replace him with the same, if not worse... Will be right ****ed off if its Howe or Adkins....
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 For me, Nigel Adkins falls into the same category as Sean O'Driscoll, two managers who play very good football and have done well on a relatively small budget. Would happily take either.
gonzo Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Exactly Pardew goes and we replace him with the same, if not worse... Will be right ****ed off if its Howe or Adkins.... Both Howe and Adkins would be potentially good appointments, Adkins especially. And the more I think about it now I've calmed down, the more I think Pardew must have done something majorly wrong behind the scenes to be sacked at such a strange timing.
rallyboy Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 since when did we start shopping at Lidl? He would be great for a club under an embargo with no cash, but that's not the South Coast Team, that's the next one along. I'm sure he's a top bloke and he's done a great job creating a siege mentality somewhere that was under siege. But this one is a VERY different job and experience is key. Would be a little underwhelmed by an appiontment that is a step down from Pardew, but as I pointed out in the heat of the sh(tstorm, everything will be judged by the table in May so whoever it is, just get results.
Chin Strain Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 since when did we start shopping at Lidl? He would be great for a club under an embargo with no cash, but that's not the South Coast Team, that's the next one along. I'm sure he's a top bloke and he's done a great job creating a siege mentality somewhere that was under siege. But this one is a VERY different job and experience is key. Would be a little underwhelmed by an appiontment that is a step down from Pardew, but as I pointed out in the heat of the sh(tstorm, everything will be judged by the table in May so whoever it is, just get results. yup.
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Don't recall Lawrie Mac having great management credentials before he got the job. He did ok.
Smirking_Saint Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 since when did we start shopping at Lidl? He would be great for a club under an embargo with no cash, but that's not the South Coast Team, that's the next one along. I'm sure he's a top bloke and he's done a great job creating a siege mentality somewhere that was under siege. But this one is a VERY different job and experience is key. Would be a little underwhelmed by an appiontment that is a step down from Pardew, but as I pointed out in the heat of the sh(tstorm, everything will be judged by the table in May so whoever it is, just get results. Step down ?? Not really. People are forgetting Pardew was a manager on the way down when he came here, he had walked out on Reading and failed at West Ham at the highest level. I never trusted him as a person and it speaks for me that every club he has been at has ended in stories of unrest. Brizzle city fans must have been creaming when they got Coppell, a man with pedigree, a man who had experience, a man........................................who has been there, done that and has nothing to prove and so has no desire and no passion. The footballing world is marred by this sort of thing, many many managers who have failed at clubs both with experience and without. Howe has done fantastically well at a club with no budget and in the depths of despair, he has united a dressing room and achieved what was almost the unnacheivable, whats more he is young, new to the managerial game, will probably embrace the future of football and not be stuck in the past. Most importantly he has heart and desire. Once upon a time St Mirren took a chance on a manager about 32 or 33. He didn't turn out too bad. Another team, Porto took a chance on a guy that was trying hard to get into the managerial game, and they didn't do too bad either. Thing is, picking a manager will always be hit or miss, and sometimes you need to take a chance, just as a little while ago Pardew was saying he didn't want older players looking for an easy ride i don't want a manager with an ego bought by past successes thinking the same thing, i would rather a guy with heart and desire and for me Howe fills that void. On the other hand Howe is an up and coming manager with plenty to prove.
Appy Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Would be a very good appointment, anyone that thinks otherwise is deluded in my opinion
SuperSAINT Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Phil Brown was an up and coming manager eighteen months ago, which funnily enough was around about when Howe took over at Bournemouth in his first job. Let's not assume that all the current "up and coming managers" will continue to be successful forever, and anyone who had a setback is never going to achieve anything again. Perception of managers is interesting. I thought of this recently when a mate asked about whether we should Ince as manager and I was instantly saying "No f*cking way!" - And yet, not so long ago, this was the guy who did so well he got a prem job, and it all went pear-shaped for him. Pards' rep was pretty damaged when he joined us too - Wasn't he interviewed for the Yeovil job prior to joining us? It's crazy how things can turn so quickly.
Matthew Le God Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 who did that list of fans forums? Would be interested to see if anything on other fans forums for managers we are linked to That would be me and my website http://www.footballforumfinder.com
Saint J 77 Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Howe had a very good season last year and is currently riding on the wave of success from then, come mid season then we will see if he really is the real deal. Its too early to tell if he is going to be a great manager. I would say it would be the wrong move for both him and most importantly Saints right now. I don't think it will be him. In fact I really hope it isn't him.
Ed Rooney Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Both Howe and Adkins would be potentially good appointments, Adkins especially. And the more I think about it now I've calmed down, the more I think Pardew must have done something majorly wrong behind the scenes to be sacked at such a strange timing. I agree something has gone on behind the scenes. But cortese can't back up his statement for the pardew dismissal by offering the job to Howe or Adkins who are no better than Pardew.
Dark Munster Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Don't recall Lawrie Mac having great management credentials before he got the job. He did ok. Ditto Pearson.
Mr Saints Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Eddie Howe would be an excellent appointment. That is all.
NickG Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 That would be me and my website http://www.footballforumfinder.com no forums for bournemouth or S****horpe
Wade Garrett Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Howe or Adkins...why get rid of Pardew for either of these 2. They've both tasted promotion, so has Pardew. Will be mightily f*cked off if either of these 2 get the job - a nipper or a physio.
Sheff Saint Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Howe or Adkins. Nothing really wrong with either but just makes the AP sacking all the more pointless. Sent from my T-Mobile_G2_Touch using Tapatalk
Badger Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Howe or Adkins...why get rid of Pardew for either of these 2. They've both tasted promotion, so has Pardew. Will be mightily f*cked off if either of these 2 get the job - a nipper or a physio. Some Exeter fans still refere to Tisdale as a PE Teacher.
Smirking_Saint Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Some Exeter fans still refere to Tisdale as a PE Teacher. There was also that interpreter that became a manger..... did quite well.....what was his name ??
Badger Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 There was also that interpreter that became a manger..... did quite well.....what was his name ?? Agree, I would not dismiss the achievements of Tisdale,Howe or Adkins either, especially when compared to those of footballing illuminairies such as Bryan Robson,Platt and even Pearce.
Granadino Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Would be happy with Howe if that happened. Young enthusiastic manager who has done well but still with lots to prove, would try to enthuse the players with his vision and not expect them to buy in to his history as some managers dropping down to this level might do.
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