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I guess they interview quite a few but this is at least interesting that Howe does feature on NC's radar.

 

Also did someone say Vince Bartram Bournemouth's gk coach was working pre match with Kelvin Davis on Tuesday night or did I dream that.

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I'm assuming Bournemouth have given permission for him to speak to us?

 

I'd be gutted if I was a Cherries fan - firstly, they sell their star striker & then let the manager potentially leave for their local rivals

 

It suggests they are nearly bankrupt again & need the compo

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Underwhelmed if I am honest.

 

This man is walking into a pressure cooker and will be expected to deliver promotion, probably automatically, by May.

 

Dragging a team from oblivion to promotion to L1 is dealing with a different kind of pressure for sure, but it sure as hell isn't expectation, which is the key source of pressure at SFC this season.

 

Hey, whoever gets the job gets the job, but Howe doesn't fulfil the criteria for me, like to see someone with big club experience looking for a way back - another Pardew if you will.

 

I wonder if anyone will challenge your info today, FF?!

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I guess they interview quite a few but this is at least interesting that Howe does feature on NC's radar.

 

Also did someone say Vince Bartram Bournemouth's gk coach was working pre match with Kelvin Davis on Tuesday night or did I dream that.

 

Whoever it was, he had butterfingers - kept dropping the ball when KD tossed it back to him.

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as much as i rate what he has done down the road i dont get it. Surely if NC wants someone that can take us to the prem and keep us there it has to be an experienced "name" to do it? This guy would be no different to AP imo

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I guess they interview quite a few but this is at least interesting that Howe does feature on NC's radar.

 

Also did someone say Vince Bartram Bournemouth's gk coach was working pre match with Kelvin Davis on Tuesday night or did I dream that.

 

 

bartram has been the development coach working under martin for a while now

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as far as i can see, EVERY managerial appointment is a gamble...........and we should know, look how many we have had.

 

Just have to trust NC, and hope that he can get a good man.

 

As for all this "Howe hates Saints" stuff, if he doesn't want this job, then he is not the man for us.

and if he has anything about him, unless NC really is the nutjob some have suggested,then he would be an idiot to turn us down, if offered a job.

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Sceptical of managers who've had one good, first season - on that measure Dowie and Keane would be world-beaters for their respective feats of getting Palace and Sunderland promoted to the premiership in their first season. What have they done since?

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Sceptical of managers who've had one good, first season - on that measure Dowie and Keane would be world-beaters for their respective feats of getting Palace and Sunderland promoted to the premiership in their first season. What have they done since?

 

He performed a miracle down there, there is the very real possibility that under another manager they could be a blue square club today. I think he's proven enough to suggest he's not just a flash in the pan imo.

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Sceptical of managers who've had one good, first season - on that measure Dowie and Keane would be world-beaters for their respective feats of getting Palace and Sunderland promoted to the premiership in their first season. What have they done since?

Good point. But at least Howe isn't a proven failure like the bookies earlier favourite Hart .

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Would be chuffed with this appointment. One of the few on the betting lists I would be happy with (Nigel Adkins being another I'd like to see here).

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Whenever I've heard Eddie Howe interviewed on radio he comes across very well indeed....articulate, quick thinking with his replies, yet diplomatic. I tend to put a lot of value on that and it would appear from results down there that he has the ability to do well for us. Why not? We won't know unless he's given a crack at it will we!

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Has been brilliant for Bournemouth, would be no more of a gamble than someone like Shearer or Zola.

 

I would be concerned at how well he could handle the pressure/expectations though.

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Would be happy with EH but if NC is looking for a young manager with promise then i would much prefer Paul Tisdale. Got a great record in the lower leagues since 2000, record cut from wiki.....

 

2000–01: Western League Division One Champion (promotion to Western League Premier) - Team Bath

2002–03: Western League Premier Champion (promotion to Southern League Division One) - Team Bath

2003–04: Southern League Division One 6th (promotion to Southern League Premier) - Team Bath

2007–08: Conference National Playoff Winner (promotion to League Two) - Exeter City

2008–09: League Two 2nd (promotion to League One) - Exeter City

 

 

EH has only done it for a season but in all honesty i will support WHOEVER NC chooses.

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I get the feeling that Cortese would sacrifice "playing the Southampton way" , just to get out of this league. He knows he's in a hole and his one target will be to select the manager who maximises his chances of getting out of this league. That's why I can't see him going for big names without experience of this league or at least the CCC, it would just be too big a risk. Eddie Howe could well turn out to be an excellent choice, but also very risky and would be in the "have a punt box" for me, should others drop out. There should be no risks with the remote possibility of someone like Zola putting his name forward, let alone the Hart's, Southgates, etc.

 

There are managers out there with the track record who Cortese would feel very confident to confident (going down the line) about doing the job, like Pearson, Warnock, Lambert, Davis, Adkins, O'Drisscol, etc.

I doubt Warnock would even consider the idea, Pearson and Lambert look like the timings just wrong for them to apply, but Davis possibly might after all the conversations he has had with his board in the press. Otherwise, Adkins looks very much the stand out.

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His team and his players are doing better in the league than our team and our players. They have no advantage when it comes to players, none when it comes to infrastructure and none when it comes to finances to improve things. That leaves the manager, so he must be doing something right.

 

Even if we win our game in hand 3-0, we will be level with them. So I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss him.

 

It's not the big name manager I'd prefer, but he is the sort of manager I can see staying with us and building the solid, consistent team we all dream of. That's fine by me.

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I think your find Keane 3rd place in the championship with Ipswich

 

Not saying he's the worst manager in the world but he's hardly the world beater, the future manager of Man U some were touting him to be...if eddie howe had consistent form behind him, I would be less concerned - not saying we need a bling-bling big-name signing only somebody with promise AND a track record - Nigel Adkins, for instance, fits that bill even though he's not my no.1 choice.

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Would be chuffed with this appointment. One of the few on the betting lists I would be happy with (Nigel Adkins being another I'd like to see here).

 

I would prefer MON though doubt thats realistic, however I think Eddie Howe has done a fantastic job so far at Bournemouth and potentially he maybe the best option available to us.

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Howe - potentially great but very new still

Adknis - proven at this level

Brown - been around a while as No2, got Hull promoted and big personality to go in and will think he can get us playing great

 

and then there is Hart....? No. Would rather we stuck with Wilkins

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Whoever gets the job, they will never have dealt with the pressure they will get here. We're putting the same kind of pressure on a manager that only managers of the ilk of Ferguson and Mourinho and Ancelotti have dealt with. Even Wenger is under less pressure than our manager.

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His team and his players are doing better in the league than our team and our players. They have no advantage when it comes to players, none when it comes to infrastructure and none when it comes to finances to improve things. That leaves the manager, so he must be doing something right.

 

Even if we win our game in hand 3-0, we will be level with them. So I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss him.

 

It's not the big name manager I'd prefer, but he is the sort of manager I can see staying with us and building the solid, consistent team we all dream of. That's fine by me.

 

There won't be time to do that...!

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One other thing, before I run out of posts... those saying Adkins would be a better choice as he is well proven at this level, he has only been managing for just under 4 years. That's not a massive amount of time in football manager terms and certainly not a night and day different to EH. More yes, but he is hardly an experienced head.

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Well the bookies now think it is going to be Adkins, so very interesting if Howe was interviewed. I imagine the solent boys will confirm/deny this tomorrow as the chairman said they will be honest about any approach for him. For them to interview him means the chairman would have had to agree to the approach and have agreed potential compensation.

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Reading the scunny forums I would say it's very likely Adkins is coming here. Good choice IMO.

 

link? who did the fan forum thread a while ago? Can't find it

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If Eddie Howe came here, would it not work if he had an older head either alongside or above him giving him a helping hand. Wilkins could fill that role or even Coppel.

I for one wouldnt mind Zola and Steve Clarke.

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Would be chuffed with this appointment. One of the few on the betting lists I would be happy with (Nigel Adkins being another I'd like to see here).

 

i rate adkins also and his team play lovely football and howe who has done miracles at bournemouh but i expect they willgo for a big name again.

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There is just something about him that makes him stand out IMO.

 

It's too soon to tell how good he could be, be what's he's done with the Cherries is a minor miracle.

 

I'd gladly welcome him aboard, however, I hope they aren't just going for him because they percieve him to be a push-over.

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Difficult one, this.

 

Eddie Howe is undoubtedly a good young manager, with even more potential yet to develop.

He's done a fine job with AFC Bournemouth, but, I feel this to be the case for some specific reasons:

 

Firstly, Eddie is a bit of a 'legend' already in Bournemouth, for his committed displays at Centre Back during his playing career with the Cherries, and he returned there as manager at a time when he didn't really have anything to lose, in that AFCB looked royally screwed already, and it would hardly have been Eddie's fault if he couldn't turn things around.

 

Against the back drop of the torrid time AFCB have had over the last few years, especially their financial mire and everything seemingly conspiring against them to push the club to the wall; he has effectively built a 'siege mentality' at Dean Court, from a mostly young squad, with a core of players who love the club and lead by example. Eddie has pulled them all together into a very tight knit unit, that work extremely hard for each other. Eddie's young age (by general football management standards) was not so much of an issue at Bournemouth, as he already had the respect of those at the club before he even started, and the players wanted to play for him and Jason (Tindall).

 

As has already been mentioned by others, he is also an intelligent and very articulate man, who speaks very well to the media, with honesty and integrity.

All these things combined, has lead to a very successful spell for Bournemouth under Eddie's guidance, and naturally, his achievements deserve great recognition.

 

However: having what it takes to replicate that success at a Club such as Southampton, with all the weight of expectation that comes with the job under current circumstances, is another matter entirely.

 

My main concern, is that with his age, and relative inexperience, will he have what it takes to handle our squad of (shall we say) 'bigger personalities' and expectations, and command the respect of the dressing room?

 

Getting a young squad to rally around you at a club you are already loved, is one thing. Stepping up into the pressure cauldron that is currently Southampton FC, where success at this level is not only expected but demanded, is another matter entirely.

 

I like Eddie Howe, and would support him if appointed, but I worry that he may not be ready for the intensity of pressure of such a challenge yet, and may well not yet carry enough 'presence' to stamp his authority on our squad at this early stage in his managerial career. He clearly has what could be a very promising career ahead for him, yet I feel there is too high a chance of this job being a step too far too soon for him, and that it could end up not only ruining his emerging reputation, but also setting us back a further season behind schedule in our ambitions.

 

Simply put, I do not personally feel it is a risk worth taking at this point in time, unless there are not any more suitably experienced candidates with the kind of 'presence' I'm looking for to take this squad by the scruff of the neck, and drag us back up to the Championship.

 

Having said all that, if he is indeed to be given the opportunity with us, I would love to be proved wrong, and will of course give him my full backing.

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My fear is that he will step outside of his massive comfort zone, as would Tisdale.

 

And Adkins, come to think of it.

Edited by RonManager

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