saint lard Posted 1 September, 2010 Posted 1 September, 2010 Mmm,ok,possibly a tad early but it's back to the business of the league this weekend despite all the upheaval winning games is all important. Not having Barnard is a major loss,imo,very impressive thus far. Lambert is not firing on all cylinders it seems and of course Lallanna not being available either through injury. The players need to put what has gone on behind them and produce the form of the Bristol Rovers game. They are professionals and need to focus on proving they are still capable. I sincerely hope i have a smile back on my face at 4.50pm Saturday,don't let me down lads,we need a lift. COYS.
Pilchards Posted 1 September, 2010 Posted 1 September, 2010 I'm going with my two kids but I fear the team will let me down. It's so important to pick the right team as that will be the differences in winning or drawing. Kelv Butter....Jose...Martin....Harding ...............Me Gooliie.... Pucheon......Morgan.....Deano....Dickson.... ................Porky up front :-)
rocknrollman no2 Posted 1 September, 2010 Posted 1 September, 2010 Please let us beat Rochdale,otherwise i will get a lot of stick,knowing a few of their fans. But i think the best we can hope for is a draw.Most teams tend to step up to the plate when theres disruption,but Saints always seem to go the other way. Anyway,i will go to the game hopeful as always.
Arizona Posted 1 September, 2010 Posted 1 September, 2010 I'm going with a team of: Davis Butters - Fonte - Martin - Harding Judy - Hammond - Morgan - Dickson Lambert - DC Assuming Lallana is still injured.
saint lard Posted 1 September, 2010 Author Posted 1 September, 2010 looking forward to possibly meeting up with a couple of the mob from on here 'Saint in Paradise' is over. Reference Lallana,Wilkins said in the post match interview yesterday that he was not expecting good news about Lallana's injury,i wonder if information is being held back from supporters so not too fan the flames of doom and gloom felt by many.
corsacar saint Posted 1 September, 2010 Posted 1 September, 2010 IF the unthinkable happens and we lose,surely it will go down as one of the worst results in the clubs history,and that is no disrespect to Rochdale,where Keith Hill has done a magnificent job. Just maybe this will be the day,when everything clicks at St Marys ,where the team clicks at home,and we score 5 or 6.
doddisalegend Posted 1 September, 2010 Posted 1 September, 2010 I'm excepecting us to get stuffed or if we're lucky a 0-0 draw at the moment all the **** of the pitch has kind of killed my enthusiasm for the season. What ever's going on behind the scences seems to be affecting the team if tuesday night is anything to go by and I can't see that changing until a new manager is in and the players are settled again.
Colinjb Posted 1 September, 2010 Posted 1 September, 2010 I actually don't want to go. Hoping for a win but I just can't get myself geared up. Well, hopefully they'll remember to switch the beer fridges on in the family section this time.
saints triumph Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 Couldnt be a worse time for my gilfriend, her mate, my daughter, my brother in law and his son to be going to the game. 4 out of the five havn't been before as they are from up north.
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 Davis Butterfield Fonte Martin Harding Hammond Schniederlin Ox-C Puncheon Dickson Lambert We need a win, we need to play with some belief. And our big players need to hit form soon. Everyone is saying they looked bad on Tues as they were so bothered about the Pardew Dismissal but in all honesty we haven't been at our best all season yet. Hopefully the managers seat will be filled soon.
scott_saints Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 Dunno how anyone could put Guly in the team! I would go with: ...........................Davis .........Butterfield Martin Fonte Harding ......................Schneiderlin.............. Chamberlaine Hammond Puncheon Dickson ..........................Lambert............
doddisalegend Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 Davis Butterfield Fonte Martin Harding Hammond Schniederlin Ox-C Puncheon Dickson Lambert We need a win, we need to play with some belief. And our big players need to hit form soon. Everyone is saying they looked bad on Tues as they were so bothered about the Pardew Dismissal but in all honesty we haven't been at our best all season yet. Hopefully the managers seat will be filled soon. Bristol Rovers ?
toofarnorth Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 Davis Butterfield Fonte Martin Harding Hammond Schniederlin Ox-C Puncheon Dickson Lambert I'd go with this as well. Bring on Connolly on 60 minutes if we're looking for goal. Very few other options.
The Old Codger Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 I agree with the general feel here - Martin should return at CH (but will he?). Guly still too early to judge, but shouldn't start. Some variation on 4-5-1 looks a good starting point, with a view to reefer to 4-4-2 on 60 mins to give DC his well deserved run out. Lambo will have to up his game if he plays the 'lone' role though. I want to see plenty of football played through the midfield, with 5 good players available in there we should be able to create opportunities around what will no doubt be a solid defensive line. Punch, Chambs and Dickson can unlock the game by playing to our strengths. Deano and Morgan pulling the strings from DM positions - Morgan using his excellent passing skills to pull off the diagonal defence sitting passes needed for Chambs to exploit. Easy! One final point. Whatever happens we need the fans onside and supportive of the 11 on the pitch. Whoever they are and however they play, we need to back them from KO to final whistle. No anti-NC stuff. No Pards stuff. Plain and simple coicifedous support for 90+ mins. We need to collect 3 points.
trousers Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 Controversial thought alert... I would drop Lambert to the bench for this game. From what I've seen/read he's a bit out of sorts at the moment (mentally? physically?) so the jolt of being relegated to the bench could be the kick start he needs (if indeed there is a mental element connected to him being off the boil at the moment). That said, depending on his state of mind, this approach could have the reverse effect....
kpturner Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 Hopefully the morons that populated the Northam Stand on Tuesday night will be replaced for the normal supportive crowd. What we do need is support for the team on the pitch. What we don't need are chants of "on the pitch" or continual chants supporting an ex-manager or chants to bring on a player who is injured and not even in the squad. Presumably also NC has the message regarding Paul Hart (which is probably total crap anyway) so let's not work our way through the whole list of candidates we don't like. Positive support for 90 minutes - even if we go behind.....please.
CWD Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 Davies Butters--Fonte--Martin--Harding Punch--Hammond--Morgan--Dickson ---DC---Lambo is the team I expect. Really should be enough to overpower Rochdale FFS, turmoil or no turmoil. I can see an uninspiring performance but I still expect us to win 2-0
Saints67 Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 I work with a Rochdale season ticket holder and he says the following. Rochdale are great with the ball but lousy without it. Even though they have Dawson at the back their other centre half struggled in League 2. Dawson plays 40-50 yard passes from the back out to the wings where o'Grady receives and will attack the defender. If we can close Dawson down then their main outlet is gone. He was fearful we would seriously run up a huge score-line against them after the Rovers result but after Monday and the JPT fiasco result then he's more confident about getting a win!
ericofarabia Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 I work with a Rochdale season ticket holder and he says the following. Rochdale are great with the ball but lousy without it. Even though they have Dawson at the back their other centre half struggled in League 2. Dawson plays 40-50 yard passes from the back out to the wings where o'Grady receives and will attack the defender. If we can close Dawson down then their main outlet is gone. He was fearful we would seriously run up a huge score-line against them after the Rovers result but after Monday and the JPT fiasco result then he's more confident about getting a win! I think thatis the feeling amongst many Saints fans as well
BadgerBadger Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 Rochdale will smell blood and be right up for up and they'll probably get a goal. We'll faff around, hit the bar/post a few times and we'll make hard work of a 2-1 win.
Matthew Le God Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 From Twitter... officialsaints Dean Wilkins confirms that Adam Lallana has had an operation on his knee - out for around six weeks #saintsfc 3 minutes ago via Twitterrific
doddisalegend Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 From Twitter... officialsaints Dean Wilkins confirms that Adam Lallana has had an operation on his knee - out for around six weeks #saintsfc 3 minutes ago via Twitterrific just gets better and better this week
shurlock Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 We're at home, so would like to know what happens if we either drop or Hammond or Schneiderlin and play the Guly in the right position, at least giving him a decent run-out before people start judging. Though he had a dodgy preseason, I think Dickson has been terrific and am hopeful that we not miss Lalllana as much as some fear. He can get to the byline in a way others, even AL cannot. Kel Butterfield Fonte Martin Harding Schneiderlin or Hammond Puncheon Guly Dickson Lambert Connolly
ohwhenthesaints Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 We're at home, so would like to know what happens if we either drop or Hammond or Schneiderlin and play the Guly in the right position, at least giving him a decent run-out before people start judging. Though he had a dodgy preseason, I think Dickson has been terrific and am hopeful that we not miss Lalllana as much as some fear. He can get to the byline in a way others, even AL cannot. Kel Butterfield Fonte Martin Harding Schneiderlin or Hammond Puncheon Guly Dickson Lambert Connolly I quite like the look of this. Guly showed enough to me that he could be an asset if he is played in the correct position.
Appy Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 (edited) I work with a Rochdale season ticket holder and he says the following. Rochdale are great with the ball but lousy without it. Even though they have Dawson at the back their other centre half struggled in League 2. Dawson plays 40-50 yard passes from the back out to the wings where o'Grady receives and will attack the defender. If we can close Dawson down then their main outlet is gone. He was fearful we would seriously run up a huge score-line against them after the Rovers result but after Monday and the JPT fiasco result then he's more confident about getting a win! Dawson shouldn't be their main threat. He went to West Brom on transfer deadline day. Edit: Didn't know that Dawson was loaned straight back, apologies. Edited 2 September, 2010 by Appy
derry Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 I'd like to see us doing something different. If Lambert is going to play and I don't think he should because his groin injury hasn't healed yet, I'd like to see us inject a bit of pace into central midfield. I personally would like to see Bialkowski in goal but obviously it will be Davis. The back four picks itself for me Butterfield, Fonte, Martin, Harding. The midfield has been a major problem making the buildup slow and lacking pace. Because of that I would do something radical. Chamberlain, De Prado, Puncheon, Dickson, with Connolly and Lambert up front. Everybody playing on their natural side with hard running players with pace from midfield helping out the at the moment immobile Lambert. I know about no defensive midfielder, but that really worked well against Swindon with two of them sitting even at 0-2 didn't it? Schneiderlin needs to rethink his roll and it isn't as a one dimensional strolling square passer and Hammond is way off the pace. In any event they would be on the bench if it didn't work, but somehow I think Rochdale would have their hands full with the pace and again if they are coming to park the bus why do we need two negative central midfield players?
Saint_clark Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 Controversial thought alert... I would drop Lambert to the bench for this game. From what I've seen/read he's a bit out of sorts at the moment (mentally? physically?) so the jolt of being relegated to the bench could be the kick start he needs (if indeed there is a mental element connected to him being off the boil at the moment). That said, depending on his state of mind, this approach could have the reverse effect.... Won't happen, and shouldn't. He hasn't been at his best but he still made a huge difference to our play (for the better) since he came back.
trousers Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 I'd like to see us doing something different. If Lambert is going to play and I don't think he should because his groin injury hasn't healed yet, I'd like to see us inject a bit of pace into central midfield. I personally would like to see Bialkowski in goal but obviously it will be Davis. The back four picks itself for me Butterfield, Fonte, Martin, Harding. The midfield has been a major problem making the buildup slow and lacking pace. Because of that I would do something radical. Chamberlain, De Prado, Puncheon, Dickson, with Connolly and Lambert up front. Everybody playing on their natural side with hard running players with pace from midfield helping out the at the moment immobile Lambert. I know about no defensive midfielder, but that really worked well against Swindon with two of them sitting even at 0-2 didn't it? Schneiderlin needs to rethink his roll and it isn't as a one dimensional strolling square passer and Hammond is way off the pace. In any event they would be on the bench if it didn't work, but somehow I think Rochdale would have their hands full with the pace and again if they are coming to park the bus why do we need two negative central midfield players? Totally agree. If Rochdale (or any other team for that matter) aren't coming to attack then we don't need an overly defencive midfield.
SuperMikey Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 Dropping Lambert when Barnard is suspended is madness, DC can't lead a line on his own, he's not that kind of player. This is why we should have signed another striker in the window.. -----------------------DAVIS-------------------- BUTTERFIELD-----FONTE-----MARTIN-----HARDING GULY-----SCHNEIDERLIN-----HAMMOND-----PUNCH ---------------LAMBERT-----CONNOLLY----------- Subs: Bart, Jaidi, Dickson, Wotton, Chamberlain, Mills, Gobern No quality on that bench, which is worrying. Still, the first XI is more than capable of getting a win, and I think that's what we're all expecting now, even given the circumstances. COYR and WIFM!
trousers Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 Dropping Lambert when Barnard is suspended is madness, DC can't lead a line on his own, he's not that kind of player. Chamberlain?
shurlock Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 Chamberlain? No - played him up top in preseason at Barmet, didnt work- more lightweight than DC
trousers Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 No - played him up top in preseason at Barmet, didnt work- more lightweight than DC ok, fair dos. A slightly off the boil Lambert it is then I guess
shurlock Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 ok, fair dos. A slightly off the boil Lambert it is then I guess Yep, that's the crux of it - if this season has shown anything, it is how dependent we are on Lambo. Do we even know what's wrong with him - Is he still playing with a groin injury - its not like he was rushed back this season and we did have a two-week break. I thought groin injuries either rule you out or they dont. And its not like he's lacking match fitness- he didnt miss much of preseason and he's had 4 and a bit games to play himself in. Concerning.
K,Billy's supersound Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 my choice for saturday is -----------------------DAVIS-------------------- BUTTERFIELD-----FONTE-----MARTIN-----DICKSON PUNCH-----SCHNEIDERLIN----HAMMOND----MILLS ---------------LAMBERT-----CONNOLLY-----------
latter day saint Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 my choice for saturday is -----------------------DAVIS-------------------- BUTTERFIELD-----FONTE-----MARTIN-----DICKSON PUNCH-----SCHNEIDERLIN----HAMMOND----MILLS ---------------LAMBERT-----CONNOLLY----------- no Harding? not been as good as last year yet but still solid i.m.o
K,Billy's supersound Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 not in my starting eleven no, along with jaidi i feel his postioning and awareness have been below par and they have both cost the team goals. i think that the fact lambert and connolly are yet to hit top goal scoring form i feel its gonna be a case of making sure we cut out any silly mistakes and start with getting cleansheets and winning games 1-0. I feel to many people and maybe somtimes the players aswell that they are of the opion that all we have to do is just turn up as its only little old rochdale we should be banging in 4+goals against these teams.
K,Billy's supersound Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 i also feel that rochdale will follow the same trend as other teams and come to stmary's with 11 men behind the ball and i feel we need maximum width and quick switching of play to either flanks in order to help break them down. with mills and dickson constantly overlapping each other and doubling up on their right back either can produce a good cross it will be alot harder for their rightback to know how and who to defend against.
shurlock Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 i also feel that rochdale will follow the same trend as other teams and come to stmary's with 11 men behind the ball and i feel we need maximum width and quick switching of play to either flanks in order to help break them down. with mills and dickson constantly overlapping each other and doubling up on their right back either can produce a good cross it will be alot harder for their rightback to know how and who to defend against. What so you stick Hammond and Schneiderlin in midfield and play Mills who's not as attacking as some of our other options. Pretty negative for a home game where as you say rochdale will prob stick 11 men behind the ball.
S-Clarke Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 We're good enough to win, but Rochdale are a dangerous side. They remind me somewhat of Brentford last season, kind of surprised everyone, but they play football the right way and have an excellent player in dawson - who is deemed premiership quality by WBA. so we'll have to be on our toes, we'll miss Barnard who i think has been excellent, so it's time for Connolly to come to the fore. Hope he can get back into the scoring grove, as i don't think he's scored for us since gillingham away last season. It'll be nice to get a win though, hopefully a comfortable win, as we'll then be looking upwards within distance of the top 2 which still has to be our target no matter what.
derry Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 Lambert is still struggling with the groin injury. He struggles to train and as a result isn't getting surplus weight off. Source-a first team player.
S-Clarke Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 Lambert is still struggling with the groin injury. He struggles to train and as a result isn't getting surplus weight off. Source-a first team player. Do you think surgery may be the solution here as well?
ericofarabia Posted 2 September, 2010 Posted 2 September, 2010 Lambert is still struggling with the groin injury. He struggles to train and as a result isn't getting surplus weight off. Source-a first team player. Do you think surgery may be the solution here as well? Are you suggesting a tummy tuck or lipposuction
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Set up for our favourite scoreline I feel. 3-1 to Saints, Lambert to hit form. This is a pivotal game in our season - win and we all get another week to find a manager feeling better about things - lose and the sky will be falling for sure. Get behind the lads for the full 90 - then if we don't get the 3 points feel free to boo the directors box. COYR. WIFM.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Guly will start - it's been mandated by the Board and Connollys legs will be saved until 80mins. Therefore team IMO will be... -----------------------DAVIS-------------------- BUTTERFIELD-----FONTE-----JAIDI-----HARDING PUNCH-----SCHNEIDERLIN-----HAMMOND-----DICKSON ----------------------GULY---------------------- ---------------LAMBERT------------------------ Subs: Connolly, Bart, Fish, Martin, Wotton, Ox-Chamberlain
thefunkygibbons Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Expectations strangely subdued Bizarrely, I would not be surprised by any result, lose, draw or win
The Fat Controller Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 ----------------Davis -Butterfield, Martin, Fonte, Dickson Puncheon, Hammond, Schneiderlin, Guly --------------Chamberlain ----------------Lambert
niceandfriendly Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 We'll probably lose 2-0, when there's disruption Saints always fail, oh and without Lallana we're a pretty average side going forward.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 3 September, 2010 Posted 3 September, 2010 Any win will do. An ugly 1-0 having been completely out played and scored a dodgy last minute goal will be fine. We just need to stay within touching distance of the leaders while we're in this transitional period.
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