Is Les Reed the cause of AP departure?

[Legod Third Coming]

If you don't sack a manager for performance reasons, you must be a fecking idiot. Because what the feck else matters?

 

We were winning games alright but you should have seen some of our coaches swearing and some of the players puffing and panting in training...

 

Feck me. I hope he was sacked for performance reasons and nothing else. If he had won the league he could have ****ed in my car and taken my wife up the arse for all I care.

[aintforever]

I just find it worrying that we have the worst manager in Charlton's history advising our chairman on football.

[Deppo]

Feck me. I hope he was sacked for performance reasons and nothing else.

 

It was definitely for something else. Something more serious that definitely would have affected performances had Cortese not acted so swiftly. Look at the sticky on the sacking at the top of the page. Cortese should be applauded for his actions here, not victimised.

[Norm]

It was definitely for something else. Something more serious that definitely would have affected performances had Cortese not acted so swiftly. Look at the sticky on the sacking at the top of the page. Cortese should be applauded for his actions here, not victimised.

 

 

 

 

 

I'm useless at reading in the dark so, Spit it out, for crying out loud!

[St_Tel49]

I'm useless at reading in the dark so, Spit it out, for crying out loud!

 

Couldn't agree more. I'm repeating myself here but if someone knows something and can say what it is - then say it. If you know something but cannot say what it is then don't say anything otherwise you simply look like an attention seeking pr1ck.

[Block 5]

 

feck me. I hope he was sacked for performance reasons and nothing else. If he had won the league he could have ****ed in my car and taken my wife up the arse for all i care.

 

potd.

[Cascadia Saint]

Couldn't agree more. I'm repeating myself here but if someone knows something and can say what it is - then say it. If you know something but cannot say what it is then don't say anything otherwise you simply look like an attention seeking pr1ck.

 

Exactly. We're back to the days of the ITK'ers. They can hint away but can't actually say anything in case it compromises their source at the club / ruins the takeover / provokes a legal action blah blah blah..

[Badger]

I just find it worrying that we have the worst manager in Charlton's history advising our chairman on football.

 

Our chairmen certainly know how to pick football advisers, don't they?

 

Perhaps NC would be better off with a World Cup winning rugby coach at his side.

[sadoldgit]

Our chairmen certainly know how to pick football advisers, don't they?

 

Perhaps NC would be better off with a World Cup winning rugby coach at his side.

 

Not a bad idea. At least we made the play offs that year.

[Saint Fan CaM]

Saint Fan CaM, it all has echos to Lowe's empire diverting vital cash from the 1st year in the Championship.

 

Anyone noticed the vast leap in first team talent since Reed was appointed in April?

 

Well, I guess there's no concrete evidence as such, but it does seem somewhat reminiscent of tail wagging dog. Also, with this many 'policemen' at Staplewood I would imagine there were plenty of 'unofficial reports' getting back to NC. I do hope our new manager is built of sterner stuff and is whiter than white.

[Topcat]

It was definitely for something else. Something more serious that definitely would have affected performances had Cortese not acted so swiftly. Look at the sticky on the sacking at the top of the page. Cortese should be applauded for his actions here, not victimised.

 

Deppo, why are you talking in riddles rather than being nice to all readers and just re-state something you or some other poster has stated elsewhere? The sticky you refer to has 1,000+ posts! Or just provide a link to the precise post which explains everything?

[SaintRichmond]

I just find it worrying that we have the worst manager in Charlton's history advising our chairman on football.

 

No, the most worrying thing is that Cortese is listening to him

 

Apart from being a useless Charlton Manager, Reed has the natural ability of being a Todt, a first class @rse licker, and a Sh*t stirrer of the highest order

 

Ask any Charlton fan for their opinion of him

[Andyb1]

No, the most worrying thing is that Cortese is listening to him

 

Apart from being a useless Charlton Manager, Reed has the natural ability of being a Todt, a first class @rse licker, and a Sh*t stirrer of the highest order

 

Ask any Charlton fan for their opinion of him

 

 

We're interested in Charlton fans opinions again now are we? Sorry i must have missed something, everyone wanted to ignore them when they went on about Pardew.. It's ok this time though as it suits the current agenda/scapegoat..

[Deppo]

Couldn't agree more. I'm repeating myself here but if someone knows something and can say what it is - then say it. If you know something but cannot say what it is then don't say anything otherwise you simply look like an attention seeking pr1ck.

 

You are right. I'll stop posting about it now.

[Deppo]

Deppo, why are you talking in riddles rather than being nice to all readers and just re-state something you or some other poster has stated elsewhere? The sticky you refer to has 1,000+ posts! Or just provide a link to the precise post which explains everything?

 

Because I couldn't be bothered to type it out again.

[buctootim]

No, the most worrying thing is that Cortese is listening to him

 

Apart from being a useless Charlton Manager, Reed has the natural ability of being a Todt, a first class @rse licker, and a Sh*t stirrer of the highest order

 

Ask any Charlton fan for their opinion of him

 

Of course you've met Les Reed, indeed must have known him since before he was appointed in April. Also weird that Charlton fans also appear to have positive things to say about him - very unlike what they say about Pardew.

http://www.charltonlife.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=36533&page=1

[waggy]

Neither of those are true, by the way.

 

Ooo you are a tease.

PS Elvis aint dead... FACT

[alpine_saint]

If you don't sack a manager for performance reasons, you must be a fecking idiot. Because what the feck else matters?

 

We were winning games alright but you should have seen some of our coaches swearing and some of the players puffing and panting in training...

 

Feck me. I hope he was sacked for performance reasons and nothing else. If he had won the league he could have ****ed in my car and taken my wife up the arse for all I care.

 

Pathetic. Really, truly pathetic.

 

You reckon it is good for team morale if a manager is caught knobbing the missus of one of his players, do you ?

 

Look at England during the last World Cup and how a great qualification turned into an awful tournament thanks largely to the extra-curricular activities of John Terry.

[doddisalegend]

Pathetic. Really, truly pathetic.

 

You reckon it is good for team morale if a manager is caught knobbing the missus of one of his players, do you ?

 

Look at England during the last World Cup and how a great qualification turned into an awful tournament thanks largely to the extra-curricular activities of John Terry.

 

has that been proved then?

[Topcat]

I think that what Deppo refers to is this allegation.

there was a fight incident at the training ground between Pardew and Player A and a couple of other players and coaches - Cortese turned up and the result was Pardew being sacked. Cortese told him to take his "drinking mates" with him and leave Southampton.

 

So when was this training ground incident? They played on Saturday and by 8am on Monday morning AP was fired. Training on Sunday? Unlikely after a 4-0 away win.

 

Therefore the training ground incident had to be before the Bristol game. So we are asked to believe that the team was so traumatized that it then went out a day or 2 later and won 4-0 away? It makes no sense.

 

The usual time for immediate dismissal for an act of gross indiscipline (fighting) is right at the time it happened. You do not wait X days before suspending or firing the person and you do not fire their other staff unless they were also throwing punches. If AP was fired for this reason he would also not be subject to an NDA as he would receive no compensation for bringing about his own dismissal.

[Topcat]

You reckon it is good for team morale if a manager is caught knobbing the missus of one of his players, do you ?

 

No, but that should be grounds for instant dismissal. But not for the dismissal of 2 other coaches.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

Pathetic. Really, truly pathetic.

 

You reckon it is good for team morale if a manager is caught knobbing the missus of one of his players, do you ?

 

Look at England during the last World Cup and how a great qualification turned into an awful tournament thanks largely to the extra-curricular activities of John Terry.

 

You have come up with some wild assumptions over the months...love this one best....lol lol

we has a terrible tournament because we were crap...

Edited 2 September, 2010 by ALWAYS_SFC

[doddisalegend]

I think that what Deppo refers to is this allegation.

 

 

So when was this training ground incident? They played on Saturday and by 8am on Monday morning AP was fired. Training on Sunday? Unlikely after a 4-0 away win.

 

Therefore the training ground incident had to be before the Bristol game. So we are asked to believe that the team was so traumatized that it then went out a day or 2 later and won 4-0 away? It makes no sense.

 

The usual time for immediate dismissal for an act of gross indiscipline (fighting) is right at the time it happened. You do not wait X days before suspending or firing the person and you do not fire their other staff unless they were also throwing punches. If AP was fired for this reason he would also not be subject to an NDA as he would receive no compensation for bringing about his own dismissal.

 

According to the rumours it took place before the Orient match (before MLs service at st Mary's)

[SaintRichmond]

According to the rumours it took place before the Orient match (before MLs service at st Mary's)

 

I don't think so. No way Pardew would have been allowed to attend the Service

 

The straw that broke the camels back happened AFTEr the 4-0 away win at B Rovers, and it was so bad that it warrented Instant dismissal

 

Or so the rumour goes

 

The BIG question as far as I am concerned is the fact that all three got Instant Dismissals WHY ???

 

Very strange that, So they ALL committed the same SIN at the SAMR time ???

 

( Whatever the sin was of course )

 

Where Cortese goes wrong is his belief that we Supporters are not worthy of ANY type of explanation whatsoever. That may work in Banking, but it certainly does not work at a Football Club, especially an English one

[SaintRichmond]

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You have come up with some wild assumptions over the months...love this one best....lol lol

we has a terrible tournament because we were crap...

 

PLUS John Terry's incessant Sh*t Stirring behind the scenes. Terry is a nasty individual IMHO

 

Do you for one minute think he was HAPPY with Capello for taking his captaincy away ???

[SaintRichmond]

No, but that should be grounds for instant dismissal. But not for the dismissal of 2 other coaches.

 

Be fair, the other two were only holding her down

[Deppo]

Where Cortese goes wrong is his belief that we Supporters are not worthy of ANY type of explanation whatsoever. That may work in Banking, but it certainly does not work at a Football Club, especially an English one

 

Exactly. Doesn't Cortese know who you are?

[Cricketphilly]

has that been proved then?

 

Phone up Carl Fletcher and ask I suppose

[doddisalegend]

I don't think so. No way Pardew would have been allowed to attend the Service

 

The straw that broke the camels back happened AFTEr the 4-0 away win at B Rovers, and it was so bad that it warrented Instant dismissal

 

Or so the rumour goes

 

The BIG question as far as I am concerned is the fact that all three got Instant Dismissals WHY ???

 

Very strange that, So they ALL committed the same SIN at the SAMR time ???

 

( Whatever the sin was of course )

 

Where Cortese goes wrong is his belief that we Supporters are not worthy of ANY type of explanation whatsoever. That may work in Banking, but it certainly does not work at a Football Club, especially an English one

 

Well this from the rumour on 606 which deppo says is the same story that he heard

 

Cortese interviewed EVERY SINGLE PERSON who was at Staplewood on that day last week, although the incident happened while Markus' memorial was being planned. The player said Nicola handled it with the utmost professionalism. TWO key players threatened to hand in Transfer Request's if action was not taken.

 

So if it happened as it's being told that is some where before the Oirent game and after the Bompey game. Personally if true I'd would expected those involved to be suspend until an investagation took place. However no one was and the team performed better in the games that followed the incident rather than worse which is what you'd expect.

[doddisalegend]

Phone up Carl Fletcher and ask I suppose

 

I'm not saying these things aren't true just that people are now posting as if they are true we have no evidence either way.

[Whitey Grandad]

The 8000 attendance suggests not, and most people last season weren't bothered until the Area final either.

 

There are other factors, the high ticket prices, the removal of 'free' car parking at cup games from those who have season parking tickets, the extra ticket tax for those who turn up on the day, not holding season-ticket seat for a day or two.... None of these will encourage a high turn-out.

[Topcat]

With the Hammond statement denying a player revolt ousting Pardew, we have to look at the facts and the sacking statement indicated a problem between the first team management and others at the Training Ground.... The others are all under Les Reed.

Edited 3 September, 2010 by Topcat
corrected to give Deppo half a stand.

[Deppo]

Pardew was probably sacked for turning up at Stapleton instead of the Saints training ground.