Well done Cortese

[alpine_saint]

the morale seemed totally fine on Saturday!

 

this performance is a direct result of pardews sacking, i'm sure of it.

 

Well the players need a rocket up their backside then.

 

I can almost imagine the folded arms, the hunched shoulders, the sulky curled bottom lips...

[St. Jason]

To be fair, he may well have someone lined up, but cant be seen to be doing the hiring a day after the firing! as this may have an effect on the obvious compensation that Pardew is going to claim, AP then may have a case for unfair dismissal as well.

 

The compensation package has nothing to do with if we do or do not have a new manager in place, Pardew has a contract, he has been scaked, he is due compensation, regardless!

[Didcot Saint]

No Alpine he is f---cking things up big time, all he's doing is alienating us fans again, no payment plan, no renewal notices, pay to park, pay more on the day of the game, pay more for on-line sales, this is not maximising revenue this is alienating existing customers and putting of potential customers!

 

I've had a season ticket for 21 years until this, and I'm not missing it 1 bit, I'm glad I'm out of it, from the outside (which I am now) I can see it clearly now. Tell you what mate pop down to M & S in Hedge End and put a charge on the parking there, see what happens to their customer numbers!

Absolutely agree 100% had an ST for 27 years, still have and always will but I am so worried about this clown in charge.

[BadgerBadger]

No Alpine he is f---cking things up big time, all he's doing is alienating us fans again, no payment plan, no renewal notices, pay to park, pay more on the day of the game, pay more for on-line sales, this is not maximising revenue this is alienating existing customers and putting of potential customers!

 

I've had a season ticket for 21 years until this, and I'm not missing it 1 bit, I'm glad I'm out of it, from the outside (which I am now) I can see it clearly now. Tell you what mate pop down to M & S in Hedge End and put a charge on the parking there, see what happens to their customer numbers!

 

He's dragging the club into the 21st century but I must admit the way he's going about it sucks ass

[La BoIS Saint]

Nicola's a girl's name

Nicola's a girl's name

la la la la

la la la la

[The boy done well]

Yes you are talking sense mate and alot of other long term fans think exactly the same.

 

Are you thinking straight? So you whingers get your way and Cortese says I've had enough of this and walks. The Liebherr family will almost certainly walk with him. What then? I'm a long term fan as well and OP's of this kind and some of the comments that follow are just plain stupid with no thought to the consequences of where such daft remarks may lead us. God am I glad I didn't leave the running of my business to some of you lot. A lot of AP's football was dross. Get over it.

[alpine_saint]

Are you thinking straight? So you whingers get your way and Cortese says I've had enough of this and walks. The Liebherr family will almost certainly walk with him. What then? I'm a long term fan as well and OP's of this kind and some of the comments that follow are just plain stupid with no thought to the consequences of where such daft remarks may lead us. God am I glad I didn't leave the running of my business to some of you lot. A lot of AP's football was dross. Get over it.

 

Nutshell.

[Liquidshokk]

Cortese is a ****

[Foxstone]

Are you thinking straight? So you whingers get your way and Cortese says I've had enough of this and walks. The Liebherr family will almost certainly walk with him. What then? I'm a long term fan as well and OP's of this kind and some of the comments that follow are just plain stupid with no thought to the consequences of where such daft remarks may lead us. God am I glad I didn't leave the running of my business to some of you lot. A lot of AP's football was dross. Get over it.

 

Right on !

[Didcot Saint]

Remember what you said when NC charges £600 for a season ticket or £55 for a match ticket. **** him the blokes an asshole, and SFC is being made into a laughing stock by one man.

[Saints Mad Si]

The compensation package has nothing to do with if we do or do not have a new manager in place, Pardew has a contract, he has been scaked, he is due compensation, regardless!

 

Yes AP will get paid his contract up as his employers have terminated his contract, but what Im saying is that if I was released from a job that I was doing reasonably well and my employer had no valid reason for releasing me and then bought somebody else in the same/next day I would think that I was being pushed out for no reason and claim for unfair dismissal, then causing my employer to pay more and costs of a tribunal.

 

I will know contradict everything and say I hope someone is in quickly as we need a leader as soon as possible.

 

Not trying to cause an arguement just trying to look at it at different angles.

[1976_Child]

CORTESE! if you or one of your munchkins are reading these boards, be aware! Be very Aware! The mood of a football club can turn on a dime; one minute you think you have a benign fanbase, then next, BOSH! they turn on you.

 

Right now you are looking very,very,very stupid. The only way you can honour Markus's memory is to get our club up the leagues. You can't do that without your fans. If you have written anywhere on you business plan that we are 'customers' then you should hang your head in shame. Collectively, we fans have more power than you could imagine. We are never, never organized. But if a certain 'mood' sets in then before long you will see marches calling for your head and negative chanting at the ground, let alone the fact that there will be a lot less going through the turnstiles.

 

You need to understand, really understand and take to heart. You are the business brains behind our club. We are happy to know that, but you are NOT a celebrity. Don't go looking for us fans to massage your ego. We won't. Appoint a manager and let him get on with it. He - and his players - are the egos in this club. Not you. We don't care about you. We care about our football club. You're in it for the cash, fine. Do so with a low profile.

[St. Jason]

Are you thinking straight? So you whingers get your way and Cortese says I've had enough of this and walks. The Liebherr family will almost certainly walk with him. What then? I'm a long term fan as well and OP's of this kind and some of the comments that follow are just plain stupid with no thought to the consequences of where such daft remarks may lead us. God am I glad I didn't leave the running of my business to some of you lot. A lot of AP's football was dross. Get over it.

 

Funny isn't it, any criticism of Cortesse is met with the same reply 'whingers' or 'what if he leaves'! You talk about acting with no regard to the consequences, maybe you should speak to Mr. Cortesse. You say you have a business, if this is true, surely, as a business man you appreciate the need for good communication with your customers, would you not explain a decision that affected the quality of your product/service?

 

One more question, why would we be fooked if they all left? The debt has gone, our assets are still ours, the fans are *****il this week) still turning up, we are a going concern!

[Plumstead_Saint]

Are you thinking straight? So you whingers get your way and Cortese says I've had enough of this and walks. The Liebherr family will almost certainly walk with him. What then?

Well someone else would have to buy the club before he could walk away - and they would be buying a debt free club with great facilities and a large fanbase.

Best of all the arrogant little brat with the sugar daddy gets found out as a pathetic control freak quitter who was out of his depth in his football fantasy?

Could be worse really.

Or, let's all be afraid to say a word against Nicola on an internet footie forum cos he might get upset and bore of playing with our club because the nasty boys called him names?

Get real you clown.

[Whitey Grandad]

Remember what you said when NC charges £600 for a season ticket or £55 for a match ticket. **** him the blokes an asshole, and SFC is being made into a laughing stock by one man.

 

I must admit, I'm tending towards this view rather than the 'Cortese must know best' line. There have been too many decisions big and small that I consider counter-productive. There's still time to turn things round this season but this whole affair has been mishandled and could be the difference between automatic promotion and play-offs. If he were managing one of my companies I would be asking searching questions.

[alpine_saint]

CORTESE! if you or one of your munchkins are reading these boards, be aware! Be very Aware! The mood of a football club can turn on a dime; one minute you think you have a benign fanbase, then next, BOSH! they turn on you.

 

Right now you are looking very,very,very stupid. The only way you can honour Markus's memory is to get our club up the leagues. You can't do that without your fans. If you have written anywhere on you business plan that we are 'customers' then you should hang your head in shame. Collectively, we fans have more power than you could imagine. We are never, never organized. But if a certain 'mood' sets in then before long you will see marches calling for your head and negative chanting at the ground, let alone the fact that there will be a lot less going through the turnstiles.

 

You need to understand, really understand and take to heart. You are the business brains behind our club. We are happy to know that, but you are NOT a celebrity. Don't go looking for us fans to massage your ego. We won't. Appoint a manager and let him get on with it. He - and his players - are the egos in this club. Not you. We don't care about you. We care about our football club. You're in it for the cash, fine. Do so with a low profile.

 

This is as daft a post as we have had on the subject.

 

NC has done NOTHING to court media attention; in fact I thought he was being slagged of for lack of communication ?

 

This aint f**king Rupert Lowe we are dealing with.

[Foxstone]

Remember what you said when NC charges £600 for a season ticket or £55 for a match ticket. **** him the blokes an asshole, and SFC is being made into a laughing stock by one man.

 

Yes Rupert Lowe!

[Rebel]

Are you thinking straight? So you whingers get your way and Cortese says I've had enough of this and walks. The Liebherr family will almost certainly walk with him. What then? I'm a long term fan as well and OP's of this kind and some of the comments that follow are just plain stupid with no thought to the consequences of where such daft remarks may lead us. God am I glad I didn't leave the running of my business to some of you lot. A lot of AP's football was dross. Get over it.

 

will it make any difference if he does anyway now - the way Corteses is going we are not going to make it back to the premiership under his stewardship - and certainly not within 5 years - and what good is the Liebherr money to us anyway if we are not going to spend it in the transfer window to build a team good enough to go up automatically

 

we are going to do a Leeds and be stuck in the this division for at least 3 seasons by the looks of it

 

with Marcus Liebherr passing away, a crap pre-season, a weaker team than finished last season, 4 points out of 9 in the first 3 games, and now out of the League Cup and JPT in the first month of the season all the momentum and feel good factor from last season has gone

 

we may have taken two steps forward - but we have taken one step back now

 

yet another false dawn at Southampton FC

[St. Jason]

This is as daft a post as we have had on the subject.

 

NC has done NOTHING to court media attention; in fact I thought he was being slagged of for lack of communication ?

 

This aint f**king Rupert Lowe we are dealing with.

 

But are you sure it's not??

[musesaint]

I honestly cannot believe this shambles

 

Unless Cortese pulls something out of the hat pronto we can kiss goodbye to promotion ...and I am a Cortese supporter FFS!

 

I fully expected yesterday's bizzare dismissals would be followed by immediate appointments to steady the ship ...no fc*uking chance

 

I am off for a large Vodka

[sadoldgit]

Not going to answer then ?

 

I don't knowwhat the score would have been if Cortese had not sacked Pardew, but I do think that it did not help the situation tonight.

[Foxstone]

CORTESE! if you or one of your munchkins are reading these boards, be aware! Be very Aware! The mood of a football club can turn on a dime; one minute you think you have a benign fanbase, then next, BOSH! they turn on you.

 

Right now you are looking very,very,very stupid. The only way you can honour Markus's memory is to get our club up the leagues. You can't do that without your fans. If you have written anywhere on you business plan that we are 'customers' then you should hang your head in shame. Collectively, we fans have more power than you could imagine. We are never, never organized. But if a certain 'mood' sets in then before long you will see marches calling for your head and negative chanting at the ground, let alone the fact that there will be a lot less going through the turnstiles.

 

You need to understand, really understand and take to heart. You are the business brains behind our club. We are happy to know that, but you are NOT a celebrity. Don't go looking for us fans to massage your ego. We won't. Appoint a manager and let him get on with it. He - and his players - are the egos in this club. Not you. We don't care about you. We care about our football club. You're in it for the cash, fine. Do so with a low profile.

 

I repeat from earlier - What if it was Pardews fault that he got himself sacked and Cortese was doing his correct job as a CEO by moving him out?

 

Do you know for sure it is all Corteses fault ??

 

No - I did'nt think so..

 

May I suggest that until you and others do, you put down the pitchforks and burning torches !

[sadoldgit]

But are you sure it's not??

 

Potentially it could be worse!

[1976_Child]

This is as daft a post as we have had on the subject.

 

NC has done NOTHING to court media attention; in fact I thought he was being slagged of for lack of communication ?

 

This aint f**king Rupert Lowe we are dealing with.

 

Not yet Alpine, but he is showing every sign of coming straight from the School of Lowe. I will give him until the Colchester game. If there is not a BIG NAME manager in by then.. well, then Cortese will know what it feels like to be at the tough end of a football club. He has ****ed up. He needs to redress this and soon. Like I said above, the mood of a football club can change with the wind. And it definitely reflects on the field. So if he wants promotion this season then he needs to work 28 hours a day - and get Markus's late cheque book out - to get a top-top-top manager in place by the Colchester game. If it drags on then the season is over.

[lloydie]

CORTESE! if you or one of your munchkins are reading these boards, be aware! Be very Aware! The mood of a football club can turn on a dime; one minute you think you have a benign fanbase, then next, BOSH! they turn on you.

 

Right now you are looking very,very,very stupid. The only way you can honour Markus's memory is to get our club up the leagues. You can't do that without your fans. If you have written anywhere on you business plan that we are 'customers' then you should hang your head in shame. Collectively, we fans have more power than you could imagine. We are never, never organized. But if a certain 'mood' sets in then before long you will see marches calling for your head and negative chanting at the ground, let alone the fact that there will be a lot less going through the turnstiles.

 

You need to understand, really understand and take to heart. You are the business brains behind our club. We are happy to know that, but you are NOT a celebrity. Don't go looking for us fans to massage your ego. We won't. Appoint a manager and let him get on with it. He - and his players - are the egos in this club. Not you. We don't care about you. We care about our football club. You're in it for the cash, fine. Do so with a low profile.

 

Very true, this should be faxed by the football league or something to any other prospective/wannabe football club owners/chairmen!! Cortese needs to shape up fast... and not in "a re-arrange the deck chairs on the titanic" way either... 'cos im getting that sinking feeling!! :/

[alpine_saint]

I repeat from earlier - What if it was Pardews fault that he got himself sacked and Cortese was doing his correct job as a CEO by moving him out?

 

Do you know for sure it is all Corteses fault ??

 

No - I did'nt think so..

 

May I suggest that until you and others do, you put down the pitchforks and burning torches !

 

Yep. If the c**t was talking to Villa without permission, Cortese was spot on in what he did. And with the timing.

[1976_Child]

I repeat from earlier - What if it was Pardews fault that he got himself sacked and Cortese was doing his correct job as a CEO by moving him out?

 

Do you know for sure it is all Corteses fault ??

 

No - I did'nt think so..

 

May I suggest that until you and others do, you put down the pitchforks and burning torches !

 

grow up. This isn't a quaint cream-tea AGM for M&S we are talking about. It is football. If you sack your manager in such absurd circumstances then you had better have a plan B up ur sleeve.

[Saint J 77]

Pardews sacking has just left me feeling numb. Saints will never have a settled team at this rate. It looks like we are going to go have another season where something off the pitch causes us to have a slow start. What was Cortese thinking?? I have refused to believe all the negative talk about Cortese until now. This is just unforgivable. I mean why Sack Pardew. I mean what was the real reason? Because they didn't get on? Because he wouldn't be his yes man. Because he asked for money for couple or so extra players that we needed to get promoted? Its just a really bad joke.

[Whitey Grandad]

I repeat from earlier - What if it was Pardews fault that he got himself sacked and Cortese was doing his correct job as a CEO by moving him out?

 

Do you know for sure it is all Corteses fault ??

 

No - I did'nt think so..

 

May I suggest that until you and others do, you put down the pitchforks and burning torches !

 

It doesn't matter whether he had good reason or not. The fact remains that the club is in a right mess which is down to poor management.

[Jonnyboy]

Are you thinking straight? So you whingers get your way and Cortese says I've had enough of this and walks. The Liebherr family will almost certainly walk with him. What then? I'm a long term fan as well and OP's of this kind and some of the comments that follow are just plain stupid with no thought to the consequences of where such daft remarks may lead us. God am I glad I didn't leave the running of my business to some of you lot. A lot of AP's football was dross. Get over it.

 

they wouldnt just walk away, they would sell it and the new owners would have a crack, much like the new manager is being brought in to have a crack

[alpine_saint]

It doesn't matter whether he had good reason or not. The fact remains that the club is in a right mess which is down to poor management.

 

If this was building up an a culmination of events, you are correct.

 

If this was one gross misconduct incident from the end of last week or the weekend that caused this, then NC has behaved in a spotless manner, whatever the upheaval it has caused. And he seems to have been inferring this in the statement.

[dune]

We will now see just how smart Cortese is because he has made a catalogue of mistake (and i'm not going to list them when some geek asks) and he now in danger of losing a chunk of the middle ground supporters. If he is wise he'll read the situation and appreciate that the middle ground of fans are key to how the Liebherr family will think. Despite the incorrect assertions of some who say Cortese is smart - he most certainly is not or he wouldn't be in the position he is now with his status as chairman being far less secure than it was a month ago.

[Jonnyboy]

Yep. If the c**t was talking to Villa without permission, Cortese was spot on in what he did. And with the timing.

 

Why are you insulting Pardew? He's done more for Saints than you ever will

[Foxstone]

grow up. This isn't a quaint cream-tea AGM for M&S we are talking about. It is football. If you sack your manager in such absurd circumstances then you had better have a plan B up ur sleeve.

 

So what if there was no plan B for example, and hypothetically speaking perhaps...

 

Pardew had breached his contract by talking to Villa without permission - And Cortese found out about afterwards?

 

Reckon that might be a good reason to fire him in 10 minutes don't you agree?

[crouchi]

Managerless Southampton crash 3-0 at home to stuttering Swindon. Striker banned for next game. Season about to go down the pan?

[St. Jason]

I repeat from earlier - What if it was Pardews fault that he got himself sacked and Cortese was doing his correct job as a CEO by moving him out?

 

Do you know for sure it is all Corteses fault ??

 

No - I did'nt think so..

 

May I suggest that until you and others do, you put down the pitchforks and burning torches !

 

I'll repeat -

 

If, as you say Pardew had done something or said something out of order, then release a statement to that affect

 

"Dear Supporters

 

It is with great regret that I am writing to inform you all that I have released Mr. Pardew from his contract with immediate affect for gross misconduct. The exact context of this misconduct will and will always remain private to protect Mr. Pardew's, Southampton FC and my professional integrity"

 

Why sack Downes and Murdoch for Pardews out burst?

 

You cant blame us fans for speculating, especially after all the rumours of his immanent sacking last season!

[Foxstone]

they wouldnt just walk away, they would sell it and the new owners would have a crack, much like the new manager is being brought in to have a crack

 

And who might they be?

Would they have the same resources as the Liebherr family?

[Liquidshokk]

If pardew had to go to ensure we get promotion this season then cortese should go on that basis too. Cos we won't with him hanging around, ****ing everything up and ****ing off the fans

[1976_Child]

We will now see just how smart Cortese is because he has made a catalogue of mistake (and i'm not going to list them when some geek asks) and he now in danger of losing a chunk of the middle ground supporters. If he is wise he'll read the situation and appreciate that the middle ground of fans are key to how the Liebherr family will think. Despite the incorrect assertions of some who say Cortese is smart - he most certainly is not or he wouldn't be in the position he is now with his status as chairman being far less secure than it was a month ago.

 

+1000000. Spot on Dune

[St Marco]

Anyone who has read my comments over the recent months will know i have supported Cortese, gave him the benefit of the doubt with a lot of rumours.

 

But what has happened in the past 48hrs is a huge mistake. And a large part of the blame must be placed upon his shoulders. There is a lot of mix reports about why Pardew was sacked, but for the sake of argument let's accept the view that this was pre-planned, that is the view that some on here stand by. By that logic Cortese will have a few ideas of who he wants to bring in. If we appoint someone who is un-proven in England, someone who has clearly failed at every job they have been at, someone who's only success is promotion from the fourth division then that will be a step backwards. At that point it will be clear Cortese is not running the company in the best interests of success. He would not be running it with the intention of getting the club to reach it's goals of which he set. He will be running it in his interests, in his image. And at that point he will stand alone. He will be no different from previous chairman.

 

He has a week or so to pull something out of the bag to save his reputation, a big name manager will be the only way he can save face. Because if he appoints someone like Zola and he fails then as far as i am concerned Cortese will have to resign. He prides himself on being a business man, i deal with these people and companies on a daily basis. If a chairman makes decisions based on ego and the company fails then that chairman is normally required to resign. It is the pressure that goes with the job. So if he fails to deliver someone who can promote this club this season he must take full responsibility for the failure.

 

The team tonight played awful, they played like they had no morale, no ideas, like a bunch of rabbits in the head lights. Which would of been different if the chairman did not get involved.

 

Why o why can't we get a chairman like those at some clubs i.e Everton who just let the manager get on with it? The club has some curse about it, whoever comes in get's corrupted by the power trip. We need to get those druids back!

[Jonnyboy]

Well someone else would have to buy the club before he could walk away - and they would be buying a debt free club with great facilities and a large fanbase.

Best of all the arrogant little brat with the sugar daddy gets found out as a pathetic control freak quitter who was out of his depth in his football fantasy?

Could be worse really.

Or, let's all be afraid to say a word against Nicola on an internet footie forum cos he might get upset and bore of playing with our club because the nasty boys called him names?

Get real you clown.

 

exactly

[Foxstone]

I'll repeat -

 

If, as you say Pardew had done something or said something out of order, then release a statement to that affect

 

"Dear Supporters

 

It is with great regret that I am writing to inform you all that I have released Mr. Pardew from his contract with immediate affect for gross misconduct. The exact context of this misconduct will and will always remain private to protect Mr. Pardew's, Southampton FC and my professional integrity"

 

Why sack Downes and Murdoch for Pardews out burst?

 

You cant blame us fans for speculating, especially after all the rumours of his immanent sacking last season!

 

Speculate by all means - I am too !

 

But until such a time a communication can be ( Note "Can be" as there might be legal reasons he can't), then I am tending to speculate that Pardew was the architect of his own sacking.

[brightspark]

Can't believe how far we've fallen in the space of 3 days. If the Championship were a girl we were trying to kiss, we'd be turning up looking immaculate but have an underlying smell of garlic in our mouth. I don't fancy our chances anymore, but can only hope that Cortese is able to get it right in the long term....... if he sticks around after the backlash.....

[1976_Child]

So what if there was no plan B for example, and hypothetically speaking perhaps...

 

Pardew had breached his contract by talking to Villa without permission - And Cortese found out about afterwards?

 

Reckon that might be a good reason to fire him in 10 minutes don't you agree?

 

then if he had breached his contract by talking to Villa NC would be well within his rights to fire him with out pay off and hold a press meeting and say as such. Don't be a wally, AP didn't breach his contract. NC fired him and there will be a pay-off. If someone is fired for breach of contract they would be straight to the mike to let it known. This had nothing to do with Villa.

[Whitey Grandad]

If this was building up an a culmination of events, you are correct.

 

If this was one gross misconduct incident from the end of last week or the weekend that caused this, then NC has behaved in a spotless manner, whatever the upheaval it has caused. And he seems to have been inferring this in the statement.

 

My first reaction was that it must have been some form of gross misconduct but there have been strong rumours about mutual antagonism for some time, and the other coaching staff have also been sacked. It's almost as though Cortese has been looking for a reason to get rid of Pardew and jumped at his first real opportunity without thinking it through. He has to get the next decision right or the damage is going to last for quite some time.

[HedgeEnder]

Are you thinking straight? So you whingers get your way and Cortese says I've had enough of this and walks. The Liebherr family will almost certainly walk with him. What then? I'm a long term fan as well and OP's of this kind and some of the comments that follow are just plain stupid with no thought to the consequences of where such daft remarks may lead us. God am I glad I didn't leave the running of my business to some of you lot. A lot of AP's football was dross. Get over it.

 

Were you happy tonight with the result and the performance? Did you even go to the game?

[Foxstone]

then if he had breached his contract by talking to Villa NC would be well within his rights to fire him with out pay off and hold a press meeting and say as such. Don't be a wally, AP didn't breach his contract. NC fired him and there will be a pay-off. If someone is fired for breach of contract they would be straight to the mike to let it known. This had nothing to do with Villa.

 

Safe to say all we be revealed in time.

 

But generally people do not get marched out so quickly for poor performances - And the fact he was fired in 10 minutes so soon after a 4-0 victory indicates to me that it was for misconduct.

[Dalek2003]

Are you thinking straight? So you whingers get your way and Cortese says I've had enough of this and walks. The Liebherr family will almost certainly walk with him. What then? I'm a long term fan as well and OP's of this kind and some of the comments that follow are just plain stupid with no thought to the consequences of where such daft remarks may lead us. God am I glad I didn't leave the running of my business to some of you lot. A lot of AP's football was dross. Get over it.

 

Totally 100% agree.

[St. Jason]

Speculate by all means - I am too !

 

But until such a time a communication can be ( Note "Can be" as there might be legal reasons he can't), then I am tending to speculate that Pardew was the architect of his own sacking.

 

Fair comment mate but I won't be holding my breath waiting for an explanation from Cortesse, we've had no explanation why the programme was pulled, why the payment plan was pulled, why no renewals were sent out etc....

[St Chalet]

Cortese is a visionary, he knew we would lose 3-0 with a lacklustre performance and dismissed the management team accordingly ;-).

 

Like most posters seem to say after our tradional poor start, jusge us after 10 league games - let's allow NC to fill the gap he created.

 

I do not doubt he shares our desire to get promoted, due to his actions he will therefore be accountable this season for the success or failure.

Edited 31 August, 2010 by St Chalet
add winky thing