Some of you lot are mental

[CB Fry]

Yep, jewell has got a great record in the PL in 5 seasons two relegation and two last day scrapes to stay up. Including No wins at all and a record low points tally at Derby. Great record is that.

 

Of course no one will definitely be a success, the point is that is someone has had relvative success or experience at a higher level there is a better chance than some who hasn't.

 

And i cant mention Curbishley but you can mention Robson to try to prove yours? How does that work?

 

And your point about Mowbray, Davies and Jewell getting promoted into top flight proves my point, all got promoted and then relegated or sacked. So all a success at Championship level, but not in the premier. Thanks very much.

 

 

So you bend over backwards to make out how awfully difficult Zola's "impossible" job was but write of Jewell at a stroke. Glad to see you are consistent.

 

And, err, Mowbray and co make my point, not yours. You're saying that average managers at Prem level would definitely be good lower down - like Zola and Pearce.

 

Mowbray and co earnt their shot at the top division, your heros Zola and Pearce were just parachuted in.

 

Rubbish managers at Prem level does not equate to success lower down.

 

Mowbray and co are proven managers lower down and struggled with small clubs in the top flight. That is a completely different career path than Pearce or Zola. You seem to think that just having a job fall in your lap at a Prem club makes you a cert to be a success at any club. It simply isn't the case. You're wrong.

[Deppo]

Turkish, you have to admit that CB Fry is bloody good at internet arguing? Eh? He is, isn't he?

[St. Jason]

Now whilst i dont agree with the sacking of AP, we are where we are. I cant believe some of you are turning your noses up at the likes of Zola, Curbishley and Pearce, proven managers with premier league experience. Apparantly Zola is not good enough because he has no league one experience and didn't set the world on fire at West Ham, depsite mid table finish and keeping them up when they were a mess, likewise Stuart Pearce. I spoke to my boss this morning, he lives in Cheshire and a Crewe Alexandera fan would you believe, he burst out laughing when i told him some of the names linked, saying 'why would any of them go to League 1?" This is how it is seen outside of Southampton, why would Curbishley, Zola etc come here? If we get anyone of them, it is a massive coup. You are mad and deluded if you think otherwise. Get a grip of reality people!!!

 

Mr. Pardew has by far a better record than any of the 3 managers you have mentioned above yet somehow, despite us being such an unattractive prospect for a 'big name' manager we managed to attract him here!

 

Your boss finds the whole thing amusing because Crewe can only dream of being a club with the facilities, fan base and ambition of Saints, I couldn't even tell you who their manager is?

[Jonnyboy]

Now whilst i dont agree with the sacking of AP, we are where we are. I cant believe some of you are turning your noses up at the likes of Zola, Curbishley and Pearce, proven managers with premier league experience. Apparantly Zola is not good enough because he has no league one experience and didn't set the world on fire at West Ham, depsite mid table finish and keeping them up when they were a mess, likewise Stuart Pearce. I spoke to my boss this morning, he lives in Cheshire and a Crewe Alexandera fan would you believe, he burst out laughing when i told him some of the names linked, saying 'why would any of them go to League 1?" This is how it is seen outside of Southampton, why would Curbishley, Zola etc come here? If we get anyone of them, it is a massive coup. You are mad and deluded if you think otherwise. Get a grip of reality people!!!

 

exactly the same could be said about AP, but he still came as part of our Grand 5 Year Plan

 

So either it is madness to sack him, or its madness to expect another big name to come here?

[Saint Fan CaM]

Now whilst i dont agree with the sacking of AP, we are where we are. I cant believe some of you are turning your noses up at the likes of Zola, Curbishley and Pearce, proven managers with premier league experience. Apparantly Zola is not good enough because he has no league one experience and didn't set the world on fire at West Ham, depsite mid table finish and keeping them up when they were a mess, likewise Stuart Pearce. I spoke to my boss this morning, he lives in Cheshire and a Crewe Alexandera fan would you believe, he burst out laughing when i told him some of the names linked, saying 'why would any of them go to League 1?" This is how it is seen outside of Southampton, why would Curbishley, Zola etc come here? If we get anyone of them, it is a massive coup. You are mad and deluded if you think otherwise. Get a grip of reality people!!!

 

Completely agree - we could do a LOT worse than Zola TBF.

[Jonnyboy]

Completely agree - we could do a LOT worse than Zola TBF.

 

Id rather have Pards

[Turkish]

So you bend over backwards to make out how awfully difficult Zola's "impossible" job was but write of Jewell at a stroke. Glad to see you are consistent.

 

And, err, Mowbray and co make my point, not yours. You're saying that average managers at Prem level would definitely be good lower down - like Zola and Pearce.

 

Mowbray and co earnt their shot at the top division, your heros Zola and Pearce were just parachuted in.

 

Rubbish managers at Prem level does not equate to success lower down.

 

Mowbray and co are proven managers lower down and struggled with small clubs in the top flight. That is a completely different career path than Pearce or Zola. You seem to think that just having a job fall in your lap at a Prem club makes you a cert to be a success at any club. It simply isn't the case. You're wrong.

 

You are very good at only reading what you want to. No where have i said it guarentees success. No one, not Mounrinho, Fergusson, etc is certain to be successful. What is likely though is that if someone has been (relatively) successful at a higher level then they are likely to be successful at a lower level. It's common sense.

 

If you actually read my posts on other threads, i would like Paul Jewell as our manager, because he is good at getting team promoted, what he is evidently not so good at is keeping them there. Something Zola has done, like it or not, which you wont as it doesn't suit you agenda. Steve bruce seemed to do okay with Wigan so it shows it was possible to be realtively successful there. And look at West Ham now, bottom and pointless with a supposedly better manager than Zola.

 

If you also care to read the original post properly, i said we should be grateful to get a manager with top flight experence as many are going on about Zola hasn't done this, Curbishley hasn't done that etc. We are a league one club FFS.

Edited 1 September, 2010 by Turkish

[Turkish]

exactly the same could be said about AP, but he still came as part of our Grand 5 Year Plan

 

So either it is madness to sack him, or its madness to expect another big name to come here?

 

It was madness to sack him. SOme of you, as well as being mental, dont read things properly. WHat i said was people have grip of us being a league one club. Turing their nose up at Alan Curbishley, one person even Martin O'Neill FFS.

[Turkish]

Mr. Pardew has by far a better record than any of the 3 managers you have mentioned above yet somehow, despite us being such an unattractive prospect for a 'big name' manager we managed to attract him here!

 

Your boss finds the whole thing amusing because Crewe can only dream of being a club with the facilities, fan base and ambition of Saints, I couldn't even tell you who their manager is?

 

It's nothing to do with him being a Crewe fan, it's peoples opinions outside of SO postcodes as to who would join us and how deluded some fans are that they expect this or better. Given Pardews sacking, i expect someone decent, but at the same time am not arrogantly expecting a whole host of top bosses to be falling over themselves to join us like some seem too.

[NickG]

It was madness to sack him. SOme of you, as well as being mental, dont read things properly. WHat i said was people have grip of us being a league one club. Turing their nose up at Alan Curbishley, one person even Martin O'Neill FFS.

 

so you think the club should have kept him after what happened?

 

(don't have a clue what happened by the way)

[Turkish]

so you think the club should have kept him after what happened?

 

(don't have a clue what happened by the way)

 

We dont know the reasons why, but based on results and the fact it was the last day of the transfer window we should have kept him until November at least.

[NickG]

who knows. No-one here.

[Turkish]

who knows. No-one here.

 

everyone is ITK.