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amsterdam

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Genius - well done Whitey Grandad!

 

But still, Dalek, I have this image of you as some kind of Norman Bates/Stephen King Nightmare Character (do you have a full sized-GH mannequin in a rocking-chair in your bed-sit (possibly dressed in an England replica kit from the 1980's)? "Oh yes, my precious, ONE day they will laugh no more, mwahahahaha!"). I think your "voice in the wilderness" in this case may one day the "voice in the padded cell"!

When I was a kid growing up in the 70's, there would occasionally appear on the news a discovery of some poor Japanese bloke who'd survived on a remote Pacific Island who'd not been told that the war was over, and had continued believing that he was fighting for the cause long after the world had moved on... The heart-warming part of this was that when the soldier had the "real world" situation explained to him, the look on his face was generally one of joy and relief - I really hope you find that eventually, Dalek!!

I don't mean to offend - I'm sure you're a charming and erudite individual, Dalek, and I mean no disrespect to anyone who suffered in WW2; but really!

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Dalek2003

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Hoddle is a Judas who used Saints as a stepping stone to get back into management with a Prem club after being ****ed off by England.

Certainly don't want him back.

 

Oh come on ! Like this is uncommon in English football in the 21st Century. Surely you are not that naive.

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Hoddle is a Judas who used Saints as a stepping stone to get back into management with a Prem club after being ****ed off by England.

Certainly don't want him back.

 

Are you actually serious or just a generally bitter person.

 

Hoddle was doing well with us and got noticed by a bigger club who he had supported as a lad. He took the rational decision to have a go at managing them. If you were that person and the same thing happened to you and were offered to manage Saints you would do it every time! Also, he said something that he has sorely regretted ever since - no doubt you have never said a word out of place - well you're lucky, most of us have put our size nines right in it on more than one occasion in life.

Put aside your burden of bitterness and look at the guy for his tactical skills which were in evidence when he managed here. Good, measured, thought out passing football.

Funny I haven't seen one poster on here slag him off for being a bad football manager - only for apparently making a few people bitter. If you guys are so pure then why not practice some forgiveness in your life - you will be surprised how much better you feel inside......

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I can't argue with his leaving for another club, but his timing and methods stank. He wasn't all that as a manager anyway.

 

And as for practice forgiveness?

 

Are you serious?

 

Well, we'd better follow in your idol's footsteps, eh?

 

Because he's a forgiving chap. Of the sins disabled people have committed in past lives.

 

C*nt.

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I can't argue with his leaving for another club, but his timing and methods stank. He wasn't all that as a manager anyway.

 

And as for practice forgiveness?

 

Are you serious?

 

Well, we'd better follow in your idol's footsteps, eh?

 

Because he's a forgiving chap. Of the sins disabled people have committed in past lives.

 

C*nt.

 

Whatever his personality you can't argue with how well he did for us, probably the best improvement any manager has had with us in 12 months

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Whatever his personality you can't argue with how well he did for us, probably the best improvement any manager has had with us in 12 months

 

not commenting on that, nor saying I think it would be right for him to come back - but anyone who says he was not a very good manager for us is re-writing history.

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There seems to be a degree of memory loss on here with respect to Hoddle..

 

Aside from the infamous 'disabled' comments, which should not be forgotten or overlooked, there is the manner of his departure.. It is widely accepted that he spoke with representatives from Tottenham in South Africa whilst under contract and without permission from SFC.. This is the one item that prevents my support to his return regardless of his ability or previous record with SFC..

 

THFC should have approached SFC in the correct manner. They did not. Hoddle, when approached directly, should have declined their advances, as it was 'illegal', and asked THFC to speak directly with SFC / Lowe regarding this matter..

 

It is a question of ethics. Hoddle did not behave honourably let alone ethically. It is my opinion that had THFC approached us in the correct manner a deal would have been concluded to everyones satisfaction. Granted, the loss of Hoddle came at a seemingly bad time given our performances and league position at the time, but if he had conducted himself correctly then most Saints fans would have welcomed him back when the opportunity arose. After all his was returning to his boyhood club, his spiritual home etc.. Unfortunately, his actions came back to haunt him as the supporters were and still are polarised on this item..

 

SFC gave him his route back into football after the England debacle. This should be remembered and included in any conversation regarding the nature of his departure..

 

Hoddle to return - no thanks. Believe it or not, some things are more important than football..

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Give it to Ron

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Whatever his personality you can't argue with how well he did for us, probably the best improvement any manager has had with us in 12 months

 

well....which was exactly what? He won what?

Can you show me his achievements as a manager since he left us and before that holds certain members on here to

bleat on and on for 6 years?

Here are his stats:

 

As a player manager

 

Chelsea

 

* FA Cup runner-up: 1994

 

[edit] As a manager

 

Tottenham Hotspur

 

* Worthington Cup runner-up: 2001–02

 

So nothing apart from keeping us up.....so did many other managers that dont have nutjobs harping on at every opportunity.

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Don't want to make mountains out of molehills but I seem to be being misunderstood:

 

I don't like Hoddle

I don't want him back

I think he says bizarre and offensive things

He left us in a bad manner

He has not done well since

 

However, in the 12/18 months he was with us he was excellent. We were a relegation level team in premiership, he saved us the season he came in and started great the season after - which is one of the reasons why we are so bitter about how he left us.

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captainchris

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I can't argue with his leaving for another club, but his timing and methods stank. He wasn't all that as a manager anyway.

 

And as for practice forgiveness?

 

Are you serious?

 

Well, we'd better follow in your idol's footsteps, eh?

 

Because he's a forgiving chap. Of the sins disabled people have committed in past lives.

 

C*nt.

 

Oh dear......................

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Oh dear what? Go on. Explain.

 

I wouldn't want some racist idiot as manager even if he won us the champions league. The fact that you don't care about this issue, nor that he left in a poor manner, nor that his transfer record isn't exactly sparkling - then you're a blind fool.

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Give it to Ron

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Oh dear what? Go on. Explain.

 

I wouldn't want some racist idiot as manager even if he won us the champions league. The fact that you don't care about this issue, nor that he left in a poor manner, nor that his transfer record isn't exactly sparkling - then you're a blind fool.

 

I understand fully why some people feel the way you do and for that reason, personally I don't want him back because I think he

is a crap man manager and not what we need and his time at Spurs and Wolves proved that.

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Hoddle is neither as bad, nor as good as some on this thread make out. He's an excellent tactician, making good team selection choices, and better substitutions to change games. However, he seems to be awful at various other aspects of management, namely: media handling, team moral, training, and selecting players to purchase. In this respect he is like the antithesis of Strachan, who couldn't pick a team of players, and couldn't make clever substitutions, but ticked the training, moral, and media boxes. If only you could combine the two, have Hoddle making team selections and subs, and Strachan doing everything else. Then forbid Hoddle from either talking to the team or talking to the media. Sounds like a perfect marriage, err... I'm not sure where I'm going with this one...

 

Anyhow, sorry Dalek, Hoddle doesn't fit the bill entirely, I guess there are worse choices (Adams, Hart, Pearce etc), but Hoddle isn't exactly an ideal candidate...

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Wolverhampton Wanderers

 

Hoddle was linked with a return to Southampton in early 2004, but opposition from supporters meant chairman Rupert Lowe pursued alternative targets.[23] Instead he returned to management in December 2004 with Wolverhampton Wanderers, again succeeding Dave Jones. Wolves lost only one of remaining 25 games but failed to reach the play-offs because 15 of those games had been draws. Wolves were expected to finish in the top 6 under Hoddle in the 2005–2006 season but again draws cost them with Wolves drawing 19 of their 46 league games. They were also one of the lowest goalscoring teams in the division scoring just 50 goals in the league all season. Wolves finished 7th, 8 points off the playoffs. Wolves fans turned against Hoddle and there were chants against him during the last home game of the season against Watford. [24] The board kept faith with Hoddle, but he stepped down on 1 July 2006, stating differing expectations between himself and the club as the reason for his departure.[25][26] In his time with Wolverhampton Wanderers, the club drew 34 league games in his 76 games in charge, spanning over two seasons.

 

I.E. a crap manager, an opinion based on managerial merit. You're as good as your last managers job, and Glenn is tosh.

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Oh dear what? Go on. Explain.

 

I wouldn't want some racist idiot as manager even if he won us the champions league. The fact that you don't care about this issue, nor that he left in a poor manner, nor that his transfer record isn't exactly sparkling - then you're a blind fool.

 

:lol:

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