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Don't think I'm saying Zola is the right guy, because I'm not. I cannot believe you really don't see this, however, here's some idea's...

 

a. He's a mate for NC now Markus is gone - don't underestimate this...NC is possibly somewhat isolated.

b. He has got good experience in the English game.

c. His time at Chelski means he has good contacts with certain staff who also have contact at Saints.

d. He was an exponent of utilising youth at West Ham and there are 2-3 good examples of where he helped develop players through the 1st team.

e. He is a Premiership quality manager that is without a club.

f. NC should be expected to aim high or risk failing in his quest for success.

g. Only a rumour, but there was talk of Zola being in the area recently.

 

There may be other points, but put these together and there's a case IMO.

 

I think his managerial pedigree is questionable.

 

But can see it happening, unfortunately.

 

 

Would preferred to have retained AP to be honest.

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I here Markus was the guy that wanted rid of AP, and also got that AP wanted more money and was not happy.

 

All I am saying is that we DONT KNOW and although I would love Zola its just guess work. The only thing we can judge NC on is RESULTS and if we have a good season with a new man I don't really care, we can only judge NC on the development of saints over a period of time and he was the one really who saved us by telling ML.

 

COYS

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Don't think I'm saying Zola is the right guy, because I'm not. I cannot believe you really don't see this, however, here's some idea's...

 

a. He's a mate for NC now Markus is gone - don't underestimate this...NC is possibly somewhat isolated.

b. He has got good experience in the English game.

c. His time at Chelski means he has good contacts with certain staff who also have contact at Saints.

d. He was an exponent of utilising youth at West Ham and there are 2-3 good examples of where he helped develop players through the 1st team.

e. He is a Premiership quality manager that is without a club.

f. NC should be expected to aim high or risk failing in his quest for success.

g. Only a rumour, but there was talk of Zola being in the area recently.

 

There may be other points, but put these together and there's a case IMO.

 

I'm guessing that's why he's favourite.

 

I would prefer a manager who has actually achieved something though. Zola has done nothing in management, West Ham were not great under him.

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I misread the OS headline thinking that just some new coach was coming in to help with the setup somewhere; and then just like Wilkins I had a 'jaw to the floor' moment this evening when I got home!

 

I can forgive NC for the ticket tax, carpark charge and even the hissy fits with the local and national press; but if he doesn't deliver a big name after sacking probably the most capable manager in L1, I will be fuming. To get rid of AP and replace him with any of the names mentioned on here would be a backward step, with honourable exceptions to Martin O'Neil and Tony Mowbray.

 

You better have a big name lined up NC.

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I misread the OS headline thinking that just some new coach was coming in to help with the setup somewhere; and then just like Wilkins I had a 'jaw to the floor' moment this evening when I got home!

 

I can forgive NC for the ticket tax, carpark charge and even the hissy fits with the local and national press; but if he doesn't deliver a big name after sacking probably the most capable manager in L1, I will be fuming. To get rid of AP and replace him with any of the names mentioned on here would be a backward step, with honourable exceptions to Martin O'Neil and Tony Mowbray.

 

You better have a big name lined up NC.

 

Yeah, that's what i thought when i first read it as well. I thought it was a really really bizarre opening paragraph tbh, no mention of Pardew going until later in the statement.

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I'm guessing that's why he's favourite.

 

I would prefer a manager who has actually achieved something though. Zola has done nothing in management, West Ham were not great under him.

 

Its extremely unlikely we'll get anyone who "achieved something" as a Manager/Coach. Look at where we are. Most likely to be someone with somethng to prove, but with a reputation that will attract the quality of player we want. And who will work ther "continental" way.

 

Zola.

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I can forgive NC for the ticket tax, carpark charge and even the hissy fits with the local and national press; but if he doesn't deliver a big name after sacking probably the most capable manager in L1, I will be fuming. To get rid of AP and replace him with any of the names mentioned on here would be a backward step, with honourable exceptions to Martin O'Neil and Tony Mowbray.

 

You better have a big name lined up NC.

 

Indeed.

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"Hey Gianfranco, you're Italian, I'm Italian, I don't really know you but will you be my new best friend? Because we're both Italian you see."

 

An alternative theory:

 

NC speaks to Zola shortly after the Orient debacle as there 'might' be an opening for him.

 

We win at Rovers on Saturday.

 

Sunday :NC phones ZOLA "hey,Gianfranco we won so we can't do anything just now..."

Z : "perhaps we'll speak again in a day or so.."

 

Monday 3AM : Mrs Cortese awakes to find the head of a dead horse at the bottom of their bed

 

8AM : NC tells AP he's on his way...

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From what I heard Paul Tisdale was offered the job before AP last time but had just signed a new contract with Exeter 2 days before and declined our offer out of loyalty to the Exeter chairman who he had given his word to.So if that has got any truth then up and coming managers like Howe,Clark and Tisdale could be in contention.

 

I think NC will pull a rabbit out of the hat on the appointment.Doncaster fans are very nervous that we will come knocking for Sean O'Driscoll who I think would be an excellent appt.

 

We now know why we have seen none of these high profile signings we were promised this month.Think the new manager will use the loan market and will then have £3-4 million to spend in January so this new appt is not going to be cheap for NC what with compensation to pay aswell.

 

With the resources and players we have got a lot of the managers linked should be able to build a successful side.If they are better than AP who knows but I am willing to give them and NC a chance.

 

AP has done a good job for us but not a great job and he has his faults ie substitutions,a dreadful waste of space preseason and our team does as fit as some of our opponents.I would not of sacked him and thought he was going a good job but if NC thinks he is not the man or he can get someone better then I will trust him as he has a lot more to lose than the rest of us with this decision.if we do not get promoted now this season NC will be blamed

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Its extremely unlikely we'll get anyone who "achieved something" as a Manager/Coach. Look at where we are. Most likely to be someone with somethng to prove, but with a reputation that will attract the quality of player we want. And who will work ther "continental" way.

 

Zola.

 

Big big gamble IMO, Pardew did way better at West Ham.

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I cant believe some of you lot are turning your nose up at Steve McClaren, Alan Curbishley and questioning Zolas mangement pedigree at Premier League Level! People need to get a grip of where we are, we are a league one club FFS!! In the same division as managers like Alan Irvine, Danny Wilson, Greg Abbot, Eddie Howe, Paul Tisdale etc. People saying they dont want McClaren as he hasn't got what it takes to get us out of L1 or Zola has no management pedigree, he is did a reasonable job in the PL and McClaren won the Dutch league, Carling cup and got to the UEFA cup final FFS!! I dont agree with AP getting the chop but these guys are more than able replacements, honestly, some of you lot are mental! (not saying for one minutes any of them are interested mind!)

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From what I heard Paul Tisdale was offered the job before AP last time but had just signed a new contract with Exeter 2 days before and declined our offer out of loyalty to the Exeter chairman who he had given his word to.So if that has got any truth then up and coming managers like Howe,Clark and Tisdale could be in contention.

 

I think NC will pull a rabbit out of the hat on the appointment.Doncaster fans are very nervous that we will come knocking for Sean O'Driscoll who I think would be an excellent appt.

 

 

I suspect Tisdale was sounded out by MLT and Pinnacle and thats as far as it went.

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All I can say is that he is English.[The imformation may not be correct anyway.]

 

So you heard the name of someone, who you cant say who it is, but is English, but you cant say who it is? Why bother posting that nonsense then? I've heard loads of names today, some English some not, but i can say who they are.

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Why fear??, At Italian Under 21 level he did well and apart from last year did Ok at West Ham

 

Because he only took West Ham to a midtable premier league finish and kept them up when they sold his best players, thats why. Apparantly that makes his management pedigree not up to it for league one. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

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I'm guessing that's why he's favourite.

 

I would prefer a manager who has actually achieved something though. Zola has done nothing in management, West Ham were not great under him.

 

With a poor side with no money he took them to a mid table finish in his first season, and with a poorer side with even less money he kept them up !

He might not have been the porn barons cup of tea ( lets face it Avram will keep their tills ticking over), but he did a decent job with a bad hand of cards!

 

On top of that he was an erudite, decent man with a fantastic talent to teach.

 

He would be a good thing in my eyes I have to say

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Corsacar Saint may be onto something.

 

I have had a name given to me but asked not to disclose. Like CS says, he is English. If it does not happen in the next day or so it could be just speculation but in any event I am going to stick to my previous promise not to put information I receive up on this site.

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