Pardew and Coaching Staff Sacked.

[Legod Third Coming]

This is complete rubbish. NC may not tolerate any distraction from the promtion path, but to suggest he wants to interfere with the way the team plays is totally unfounded.

 

You have no evidence either way. Apart from that he has sacked a manger three games into a season, after a victory. On that basis he is AS BAD as Lowe. Showing no understanding of pre-season or the requirement to let a manager build his own squad. So ergo Cortese is no better than Lowe.

[LostBoys]

I certainly never saw this coming - definately at the end of September if we did badly against the lowly opposition in the next few weeks.

 

It does not look good after a 4 nil drubbing of Bristol on Saturday. I do not think we come out of this very well.

 

It reminds me of the Div 2 manager who was voted manager of the month in the morning and sacked by the Chairman in the afternoon who was not aware his manager had been voted the manager of the month in the morning.

 

Clearly Cortese has a new manager and team already lined up.

[OldNick]

He tried to keep both of them - fatally for too long in the case of Wigley.

you seem a bit buoyant Alps.

I have said I was not sure about AP and so not feeling as angry as some on here.

The obvious lack of pace in the team has not been addressed , i do hope ther new man looks at that as a priority

[ronnie radford's boots]

Like everyone, I was initially shocked by the announcement on the SSN ticker-tape, but then after a few minutes and particularly after reading the whole statement, it all made a bit more sense.

It's a pragmatic, business decision, made with the future structure and success of SFC in mind and it is in line with the 5 year plan.

Are we any closer to promotion than last season...no

Do we look like champions...no

Is there a distinct style of football being played that separates us from others in the league ...no

Can I see the influence of AP on the team, making tactical changes when the game is going against us ....no

Would I be confident that if we were promoted, he'd have the nous to manage a promotion out of the championship ....no

What we do have is an expensively assembled ( L1 stds) squad that should win games, playing well most of the time, but then again I can't help but feel that it's because of the individual players and not the management of those players.

AP is a nice guy, a good manager at this level, but not the guy to take SFC to the levels that ML/NC envisaged.

Forget the media ( SSN / Talks**t ) phrases perpetuated by ex pros and look at this from a cold hard pragmatic basis. Forget all of the normal football management/ownership standards and models. There is a plan. It's not on track.

Taking the emotions out of it, I'm happy that we have someone that determined to achieve something that they are prepared to make decisions regardless of how they might personally be perceived.

I might be wrong, but I'm prepared to buy into this different way of doing things.

The appointment will tell us so much about the immediate and mid term future of this great club. AP is a good manager, but not a great manager. I thank him for the day out at Wembly, but I feel that he was appointed through necessity, when the takeover was ( thank Markus ) completed at the 11th hour.

 

One very positive thing that everyone should take from this, is that AP would still be in place if the plan was no longer viable and therefore we should assume that future financing is secure.

With all that in mind, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the new man isn't MON or an overseas coach used to the proposed structure.

Whatever the decision, I love this club and will still be there at every home game ( as I have done for the last 35 years )

COYS

WIFM

[alpine_saint]

You have no evidence either way. Apart from that he has sacked a manger three games into a season, after a victory. On that basis he is AS BAD as Lowe. Showing no understanding of pre-season or the requirement to let a manager build his own squad. So ergo Cortese is no better than Lowe.

 

How can you say this when YOU dont know the reasoning behind it ?

[jampot]

covererage on talksport now...

[smileysaint]

Rather than knee jerk "NC is a ****" reactions, take a deep breath and think this through.

 

AP and NC have fallen out in the past and NC has a very clear vision for where he wants things to go. If AP is deemed not able to deliver that, then NC had to change things.

 

NC is clearly doing what he thinks is best for SFC. He would not take such a decision lightly.

 

AP has done a fabulous job getting the players he has and getting us set up with a professional back office support structure.

 

I am sad for AP as he deserved a crack at getting us promoted. I am also gutted for those players who will find it difficult to accept a new gaffer as they had much respect for AP.

 

As for our future, I am certain that NC has a "Plan B" and that the majority will understand this move when it comes to fruition. There will always be the moaning minnies, no matter what happens. Some people are just unable to see past their dislike for a person (NC) vs the good business practises he imposes on the club.

 

Long ago I accepted that football is "morally bankrupt" - enforced when Nigel Pearson got the sack in favour of the "cheaper" dutch experiment.

 

Alan Pardew - thanks for all you have done for SFC. You have always held your head high and done what you thought needed to be done. Much respect and good luck in your next appointment (please not at a League One club!)

 

Excited now that the "rabbit in the hat" will be able to attract even greater talent to our club and we will start to get those results that so far have evaded us - ones we will need to get if we are to climb the league.

 

Of course our season is not "finished". We have played 3 games! Promotion is still very much on the cards and I intend to enjoy the ride rather than spend all my time moaning.

 

This says it all. Very good post

[sugarbabe64]

Pardew and Cortese had a massive argument before the game on Saturday, regarding a potential new signing fact!

My money is on Paul Ince ;-)

[Legod Third Coming]

How can you say this when YOU dont know the reasoning behind it ?

 

Because it's a fact. The timing is as bad as Lowe's. Anyone who knows the first thing about football knows that sacking a manager the day before the end of a transfer window (after alllowing his predeccessor to spend money on the team) is lunacy. Yet you defend Cortese and deride Lowe? They have both proven (today in NC's case) that they know less about football than they do about money. Shame.

[Roger]

After the leyton orient game I was not sure that pards was the right man. However, after watching the bolton game I was a lot happier. Especially after sat. However, be careful guys. Its not anything like lowe this. Cortese persuaded liebhrr to put the money in and they rescued our club. They paid off all the debt. Lowew didnt put a penny in. Its their club and they can do what they like. We have to be careful about going too overboard here. Keegan would be great or O neill. Up the saints!

[Burger]

Like everyone, I was initially shocked by the announcement on the SSN ticker-tape, but then after a few minutes and particularly after reading the whole statement, it all made a bit more sense.

It's a pragmatic, business decision, made with the future structure and success of SFC in mind and it is in line with the 5 year plan.

Are we any closer to promotion than last season...no

Do we look like champions...no

Is there a distinct style of football being played that separates us from others in the league ...no

Can I see the influence of AP on the team, making tactical changes when the game is going against us ....no

Would I be confident that if we were promoted, he'd have the nous to manage a promotion out of the championship ....no

What we do have is an expensively assembled ( L1 stds) squad that should win games, playing well most of the time, but then again I can't help but feel that it's because of the individual players and not the management of those players.

AP is a nice guy, a good manager at this level, but not the guy to take SFC to the levels that ML/NC envisaged.

Forget the media ( SSN / Talks**t ) phrases perpetuated by ex pros and look at this from a cold hard pragmatic basis. Forget all of the normal football management/ownership standards and models. There is a plan. It's not on track.

Taking the emotions out of it, I'm happy that we have someone that determined to achieve something that they are prepared to make decisions regardless of how they might personally be perceived.

I might be wrong, but I'm prepared to buy into this different way of doing things.

The appointment will tell us so much about the immediate and mid term future of this great club. AP is a good manager, but not a great manager. I thank him for the day out at Wembly, but I feel that he was appointed through necessity, when the takeover was ( thank Markus ) completed at the 11th hour.

 

One very positive thing that everyone should take from this, is that AP would still be in place if the plan was no longer viable and therefore we should assume that future financing is secure.

With all that in mind, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the new man isn't MON or an overseas coach used to the proposed structure.

Whatever the decision, I love this club and will still be there at every home game ( as I have done for the last 35 years )

COYS

WIFM

 

Excellent post totally agree

[dronskisaint]

Like everyone, I was initially shocked by the announcement on the SSN ticker-tape, but then after a few minutes and particularly after reading the whole statement, it all made a bit more sense.

It's a pragmatic, business decision, made with the future structure and success of SFC in mind and it is in line with the 5 year plan.

Are we any closer to promotion than last season...no

Do we look like champions...no

Is there a distinct style of football being played that separates us from others in the league ...no

Can I see the influence of AP on the team, making tactical changes when the game is going against us ....no

Would I be confident that if we were promoted, he'd have the nous to manage a promotion out of the championship ....no

What we do have is an expensively assembled ( L1 stds) squad that should win games, playing well most of the time, but then again I can't help but feel that it's because of the individual players and not the management of those players.

AP is a nice guy, a good manager at this level, but not the guy to take SFC to the levels that ML/NC envisaged.

Forget the media ( SSN / Talks**t ) phrases perpetuated by ex pros and look at this from a cold hard pragmatic basis. Forget all of the normal football management/ownership standards and models. There is a plan. It's not on track.

Taking the emotions out of it, I'm happy that we have someone that determined to achieve something that they are prepared to make decisions regardless of how they might personally be perceived.

I might be wrong, but I'm prepared to buy into this different way of doing things.

The appointment will tell us so much about the immediate and mid term future of this great club. AP is a good manager, but not a great manager. I thank him for the day out at Wembly, but I feel that he was appointed through necessity, when the takeover was ( thank Markus ) completed at the 11th hour.

 

One very positive thing that everyone should take from this, is that AP would still be in place if the plan was no longer viable and therefore we should assume that future financing is secure.

With all that in mind, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the new man isn't MON or an overseas coach used to the proposed structure.

Whatever the decision, I love this club and will still be there at every home game ( as I have done for the last 35 years )

COYS

WIFM

 

Yes to this!

[alpine_saint]

you seem a bit buoyant Alps.

I have said I was not sure about AP and so not feeling as angry as some on here.

The obvious lack of pace in the team has not been addressed , i do hope ther new man looks at that as a priority

 

I wasnt feeling good about how things were going after the Orient game. I took on board the "we're creating chances" comments, and was definitely more reassured by the Brizzle result. But what to do ? I still felt a bit like the next cack result at SMS was in the pipeline. My gut feeling was that we would come close but no cigar to promotion this season, now everything is open again. Ask me how I feel when we know who the replacement is.

[shurlock]

Pardew did a solid job but not a fantastic one - the fact remains that we have some excellent players by L1 standards. One of my concerns last season was that our talent never really clicked as a team but often resembled an aggregation of individuals. Similarly, we never really had the nous to turn a game around or change styles if we didn't get off to a fast start. I forget the number of times we were bailed out by moments of individual brilliance. Why can't somebody new not get the same, indeed not do better when the fundamentals are there.

 

 

Yes the manner in which this was done has left a slightly sour taste - and the slightly risk-averse side of me says don't fix it if its not broken but I'm more than happy to reserve judgment and see what the new appointment does. Ultimately I liked Pards general manner (even if he could come across slightly aloof) more than his tactics and playing style. As to why now - we're only three games in - it would have been far more questionable if we had waited till Xmas and wasted that transfer window.

Edited 30 August, 2010 by shurlock

[greg_hill]

All I can say is it better be someone DAMN special in his place.

Thanks Alan and best of luck.

[Legod Third Coming]

After the leyton orient game I was not sure that pards was the right man. However, after watching the bolton game I was a lot happier. Especially after sat. However, be careful guys. Its not anything like lowe this. Cortese persuaded liebhrr to put the money in and they rescued our club. They paid off all the debt. Lowew didnt put a penny in. Its their club and they can do what they like. We have to be careful about going too overboard here. Keegan would be great or O neill. Up the saints!

 

Fear not, Cortese doesn't listen to ex-pros, fans or the media. Nothing I say will impact him and his vision so I feel quite safe in this regard!

(Which does not mean I am not immensely grateful to him and Marcus, that's a fact.)

[alpine_saint]

Like everyone, I was initially shocked by the announcement on the SSN ticker-tape, but then after a few minutes and particularly after reading the whole statement, it all made a bit more sense.

It's a pragmatic, business decision, made with the future structure and success of SFC in mind and it is in line with the 5 year plan.

Are we any closer to promotion than last season...no

Do we look like champions...no

Is there a distinct style of football being played that separates us from others in the league ...no

Can I see the influence of AP on the team, making tactical changes when the game is going against us ....no

Would I be confident that if we were promoted, he'd have the nous to manage a promotion out of the championship ....no

What we do have is an expensively assembled ( L1 stds) squad that should win games, playing well most of the time, but then again I can't help but feel that it's because of the individual players and not the management of those players.

AP is a nice guy, a good manager at this level, but not the guy to take SFC to the levels that ML/NC envisaged.

Forget the media ( SSN / Talks**t ) phrases perpetuated by ex pros and look at this from a cold hard pragmatic basis. Forget all of the normal football management/ownership standards and models. There is a plan. It's not on track.

Taking the emotions out of it, I'm happy that we have someone that determined to achieve something that they are prepared to make decisions regardless of how they might personally be perceived.

I might be wrong, but I'm prepared to buy into this different way of doing things.

The appointment will tell us so much about the immediate and mid term future of this great club. AP is a good manager, but not a great manager. I thank him for the day out at Wembly, but I feel that he was appointed through necessity, when the takeover was ( thank Markus ) completed at the 11th hour.

 

One very positive thing that everyone should take from this, is that AP would still be in place if the plan was no longer viable and therefore we should assume that future financing is secure.

With all that in mind, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the new man isn't MON or an overseas coach used to the proposed structure.

Whatever the decision, I love this club and will still be there at every home game ( as I have done for the last 35 years )

COYS

WIFM

 

Excellent post.

[OldNick]

I wasnt feeling good about how things were going after the Orient game. I took on board the "we're creating chances" comments, and was definitely more reassured by the Brizzle result. But what to do ? I still felt a bit like the next cack result at SMS was in the pipeline. My gut feeling was that we would come close but no cigar to promotion this season, now everything is open again. Ask me how I feel when we know who the replacement is.

 

I also did not feel that we would go on a long run of victories without the back up to Lambert and no pace to break down teams who come to get a draw

[sadoldgit]

Well it look sas though Duncan was right. Can't say I am surprised but ceratinly the timing is crazy and this is another in an ever growing long line of stpide decsions by Cortese. I used to say that you didn't have to be a "football man" to run a football club. I was wrong. You do need to understand who sport works. Cortese, seemingly, does not know and does not care. His eye is permanently on the bottom line, and that does not mean just money.

 

Pardew showed last season that he could do this job. Without the minus 10 we would have been in the play offs and a good bet to win them. He won us a cup and finally gave this club something to cheer about.

 

If we win our game in hand we are straight up there in the play off spots.

 

So let's sack the manager and most of his team.

 

Defies belief.

 

Cortese may well have a cunning plan and may well succeed in getting us back to the Premiership in 5 years. But if he also manages to turn us into one of the most hated and disrespected clubs in the country in the process, I would rather stay where we are thanks.

[Saint Fan CaM]

ZOLA - West Ham United

 

On 9 September 2008, Zola agreed a three-year contract to manage West Ham United, replacing Alan Curbishley, who resigned following differences with the board.

He was unveiled as manager on 11 September, despite not having the required UEFA A managing licence. Zola, surprisingly for someone closely associated with West Ham's cross-town rivals Chelsea, quickly gained the backing of the fans. Nevertheless, he received applause from Chelsea fans whenever he returned to Stamford Bridge as West Ham manager. After a shaky start Zola began to develop a side with a flair not seen in a West Ham side for some years.[17] He was also praised for integrating more youth products into the first team.[18] The likes of Junior Stanislas and Zavon Hines were given their debuts. The duo and first team youngsters Jack Collison and James Tomkins all scored their first goals for the club. In April 2009, Zola signed a contract that could have kept him at Upton Park until 2013.[19] West Ham struggled in the 2009–10 season. Zola's position as manager was put in doubt when he revealed he had not been consulted over a bid for West Bromwich Albion player Graham Dorrans and by chairman David Sullivan's announcement that the entire squad was for sale except for midfielder Scott Parker. West Ham finished in 17th place, only five points above the relegation places.[20]

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Shocking decision by Cortese and one which I believe could see us staying in League One another season. I am extremely disappointed because (a) I liked AP and his style of football and (b) because it shows up a very large crack in the unity at the club. I do think that sacking him after a 4-0 win could be considered as "best timing" as it leaves the playing squad believing in themselves rather than focussing on negatives. However, I think we will likely lose on Tuesday now, but this will not be seen as a big negative by NC as it's promotion he craves - it is his sole business focus for financial reasons.

 

Regarding the above outtake from Wiki I've posted, the key part for me is the bit highlighted in red. I think AP was telling NC that the key types of players needed to get out of L1 were not available in the youth ranks, but the key strategy of the club is to promote from within - hence the lack of transfer activity. If AP had said "well forget about promotion this season without the players to do it" then NC only had one decision to make perhaps? I think there's an 70-80% certainty that Zola is in the frame - all the boxes are ticked for him (including the supposed sighting in Soton recently).

 

Whether the new manager will do a better job remains to be seen, however my fear is whoever gets the job will also be sacked if he is failing at Xmas. Then its same old, same old instability at Saints ad infinitum.

[Saint since 66]

I firmly believe that AP has done a very good job - the vast majority of the players that he has brought in have been very successful and we can play great football and create many openings, just look at the number of goal attempts. As has been pointed out previously he has experience of getting out of this league and the capability to do well in the two leagues above.

Although our results have not been stellar until Saturday we have made loads of chances and could easily have scored several against both Plymouth and Orient.

Sacking AP is scandalous and completely stupid. I am angry and so, so disappointed. After the last couple of weeks the club should surely be as united as it has been for years. And then we go and shoot our feet off AGAIN.

Bringing in a "big name" is absolutely no guarentee of success. Cortese is a very bright guy but also appears to be a total control freak. This will go down as a very bad day and a crass decision.

[Nexstar]

Radio Solent said earlier they thought a new manager may not be appointed for a week or two yet. I would have thought this might be the case had we lost 4-0 Saturday and Pardew lost his job due to a poor run of results. Instead Cortese has, for whatever reason, made this decision now and would surely have someone lined up and ready to go? Especially considering the coaching staff were sacked too.

[alpine_saint]

Because it's a fact. The timing is as bad as Lowe's. Anyone who knows the first thing about football knows that sacking a manager the day before the end of a transfer window (after alllowing his predeccessor to spend money on the team) is lunacy. Yet you defend Cortese and deride Lowe? They have both proven (today in NC's case) that they know less about football than they do about money. Shame.

 

NC might have just saved our promotion prospects for this season. Why dont you wait until we know who the new manager is before mouthing off about Lowe ?

[Lets B Avenue]

www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?24196-A-few-rumours&p=796578#post796578

 

Have just contacted the "Club Historian" who is currently bobbing around on The Solent with a rod in his hand. He reminded me of his prophesy that incurred some ridicule from certain posters.

 

I think this was the one he meant.

[waggy]

Susupect the timing, which on the surface to us lay people looks poor given Saturdays result, has more to do with the next gaffer that is coming in that a few poor opening games?

[alpine_saint]

Radio Solent said earlier they thought a new manager may not be appointed for a week or two yet. I would have thought this might be the case had we lost 4-0 Saturday and Pardew lost his job due to a poor run of results. Instead Cortese has, for whatever reason, made this decision now and would surely have someone lined up and ready to go? Especially considering the coaching staff were sacked too.

 

Cant believe NC has done this without knowing who he wants to appoint.

[saintscottofthenortham]

Explain.

 

Go away if you are after an argument. The conversation is reasonably decent on here at the moment.

 

Please dont turn yet another thread into one of your slanging matches.

[Legod Third Coming]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/30/southampton-sack-alan-pardew

 

Training ground unrest?

[Chewy]

My first thought was shock - partly the decision itself, but more-so the timing, with only one day before the transfer window closes. And the first thing I'd like to say is thanks and good luck to AP. One of football's good guys who gave us all a very memorable day at Wembley after years of depression.

 

But the other reason for our day at Wembley was the money and investment of ML and family, managed by NC. And on reflection that is why I can't agree with the majority on here who are calling NC all sorts and saying our season / entire future is ruined. To them, we were always a long-term plan and they have already invested large sums of money. The idea that they would make a decision to purposefully jeopardise that is lunacy, and given what has happened in the last 12 months, also ignores everything they have done so far. I therefore can't believe for one second that they have got rid of AP on a whim, and are now going to start looking at unproven or unsuccessful managers with the season already started. This is clearly planned, and there must be someone lined up.

 

What they need for their long-term ambitions to be plan to work is promotion this season - we have the best squad in the division, and what's required is the right coaching and motivation. We may agree or disagree, but clearly NC (and possibly ML before) don't think AP is the best man available for that - i.e. there's someone else available who's better.

 

Secondly, what they want is for Saints to be high-profile - it puts us on the map, and (they will hope) fills the stands. This requires high profile players and a high profile manager.

 

So logic dictates to me that there is somebody - high-profile and proven - already lined up as manager. So my initial shock has turned into excitement as to who it may be.

 

Of course, as a saints fan of almot 30 years I'm well used to having that excitement replaced by utter depression ...

[alpine_saint]

Please dont turn yet another thread into one of your slanging matches.

 

I suggest you direct your comments to bungle.

[Nexstar]

Cant believe NC has done this without knowing who he wants to appoint.

 

Exactly. By the sounds of it this departure has been coming and Cortese wouldn't have disrupted the club like this until he knew what/who he wanted.

[saintscottofthenortham]

Susupect the timing, which on the surface to us lay people looks poor given Saturdays result, has more to do with the next gaffer that is coming in that a few poor opening games?

 

This is what I am hoping. I would like to think that Cortese isn't such a numpty to sack the gaffer, and not have a good idea who he is bringing in, giving that the season is well and truly underway. My main worry is, who he has in mind may well be one almighty step backwards, unless he somehow pulls off one hell of a coup.

[OldNick]

www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?24196-A-few-rumours&p=796578#post796578

 

Have just contacted the "Club Historian" who is currently bobbing around on The Solent with a rod in his hand.

 

]

 

are you going to ruin that news by saying he is on a boat

[Legod Third Coming]

NC might have just saved our promotion prospects for this season. Why dont you wait until we know who the new manager is before mouthing off about Lowe ?

 

Oh do grow up you worthless wretch. You couldn't recognise a fact if it hit you with a haddock.

[saintscottofthenortham]

I suggest you direct your comments to bungle.

 

I'll direct it at both of you. Just so happens that whenever I see a slanging match, your name is always close by.

[John McAndrew]

the echo have said the bookies are offering Paul Tisdale as favourite @ 9/2 ...no mention of O'Neil

[Neilza]

Is this really my football club or is it just some wealthy guys game, where he has all the power but not a ****ing clue on whats best?

[Badvoc]

This is all very odd, unless a 'situation' has been bubbling on for some time. It does concern me though that a man whose professional status of banker is trusted to make decisions on behalf of a football club; which means this must have been fully sanctionned by the Liebherrs. Being that NC and Markus' family will also have turned to a third party for further advice, I would like to know who actually IS advising them?

 

In any case, we must trust that their decision making processess will be for their own long-term financial benefit, and therefore footballing success for the club. So for that reason, a name must be very near to being lined up. Personally, it will have to be bloody big to ensure everybody is brought on side quickly, or this season could turn into witch hunt against NC.

 

FWIW, I would love to see Keggy Keegan back for a last swan song and final glory. Saints would be an ideal club fto end his management career in glory. But then again, what do I know??

[Saint Billy]

Explain.

 

Go away if you are after an argument. The conversation is reasonably decent on here at the moment.

 

Here here!

[alpine_saint]

I'll direct it at both of you. Just so happens that whenever I see a slanging match, your name is always close by.

 

so what ?

[sadoldgit]

Like everyone, I was initially shocked by the announcement on the SSN ticker-tape, but then after a few minutes and particularly after reading the whole statement, it all made a bit more sense.

It's a pragmatic, business decision, made with the future structure and success of SFC in mind and it is in line with the 5 year plan.

Are we any closer to promotion than last season...no

Do we look like champions...no

Is there a distinct style of football being played that separates us from others in the league ...no

Can I see the influence of AP on the team, making tactical changes when the game is going against us ....no

Would I be confident that if we were promoted, he'd have the nous to manage a promotion out of the championship ....no

What we do have is an expensively assembled ( L1 stds) squad that should win games, playing well most of the time, but then again I can't help but feel that it's because of the individual players and not the management of those players.

AP is a nice guy, a good manager at this level, but not the guy to take SFC to the levels that ML/NC envisaged.

Forget the media ( SSN / Talks**t ) phrases perpetuated by ex pros and look at this from a cold hard pragmatic basis. Forget all of the normal football management/ownership standards and models. There is a plan. It's not on track.

Taking the emotions out of it, I'm happy that we have someone that determined to achieve something that they are prepared to make decisions regardless of how they might personally be perceived.

I might be wrong, but I'm prepared to buy into this different way of doing things.

The appointment will tell us so much about the immediate and mid term future of this great club. AP is a good manager, but not a great manager. I thank him for the day out at Wembly, but I feel that he was appointed through necessity, when the takeover was ( thank Markus ) completed at the 11th hour.

 

One very positive thing that everyone should take from this, is that AP would still be in place if the plan was no longer viable and therefore we should assume that future financing is secure.

With all that in mind, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the new man isn't MON or an overseas coach used to the proposed structure.

Whatever the decision, I love this club and will still be there at every home game ( as I have done for the last 35 years )

COYS

WIFM

 

Three league games played. A good performance against a Premiership club and a terrific away win. Back on track so lets sack the manager. And why should we assume future funding is secure. The only thing we can take from this is that we have another CEO who believes in the revolving door philosophy.

 

I think we can also take from this that Cortese was embarrassed by the support given to Pardew at the end oflast season and backed off sacking him then. But with the owner still fresh in his grave and all eyes elsewhere after a good win, a Night of the Long Knives and he is sorted.

 

 

We may end up with a better manager. We may or may not get promoted. But this leaves a very sour taste in the mouth.

[Barry the Badger]

In shock and don't really know what to make of it. Has there been a falling out or was this just always the plan?

 

I trust the way Cortese has run the club so far (bar a few PR gaffes), and I think we will only really be able to judge this move in hindsight.

[alpine_saint]

Oh do grow up you worthless wretch. You couldn't recognise a fact if it hit you with a haddock.

 

You are comparing NC and Lowe without any accounting for the circumstances (also facts) as to why this has happened. That is unfair.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

This is complete rubbish. NC may not tolerate any distraction from the promtion path, but to suggest he wants to interfere with the way the team plays is totally unfounded.

 

Unfounded, but unrealistic? I'm not sure. I am ****ing unhappy.

[alpine_saint]

Three league games played. A good performance against a Premiership club and a terrific away win. Back on track so lets sack the manager. And why should we assume future funding is secure. The only thing we can take from this is that we have another CEO who believes in the revolving door philosophy.

 

I think we can also take from this that Cortese was embarrassed by the support given to Pardew at the end oflast season and backed off sacking him then. But with the owner still fresh in his grave and all eyes elsewhere after a good win, a Night of the Long Knives and he is sorted.

 

 

We may end up with a better manager. We may or may not get promoted. But this leaves a very sour taste in the mouth.

 

So you reckon that NC woke up yesterday morning and decided this spontaneously, do you ? Doesnt seem likely to me.

[carljack]

Exactly. By the sounds of it this departure has been coming and Cortese wouldn't have disrupted the club like this until he knew what/who he wanted.

 

If they did row before Saturdays KO and this sacking is a knee jerk reaction by Cortese then he is certainly NOT the great business guru that many would have us believe,it makes this reckless and potentially could damage this entire season for a few moments of madness.I only hope this sacking was "planned". 24 hrs till window closes and no manager in place FFS

 

SAINT TILL I DIE!

Edited 30 August, 2010 by carljack
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[alpine_saint]

Unfounded, but unrealistic? I'm not sure. I am ****ing unhappy.

 

Uncertainty is not nice, to be sure. I understand why people are p*ssed off.

 

Its just not clear to me that the consequence of this decision not happening would have been promotion.

[jampot]

Totally shocked by this. I feel its a mistake to let AP go.He has not been given enough time. I do feel he had his limitations, but dont sack him now? Mid season maybe if our form was indifferant i.e not in the top 5 by mid season. If AP's replacement comes in and we dont get promoted as they have had most of the season. What then? Sack the next one? I just feel NC by doing it this way is backing himself into a corner and will lose the respect of the fans as time progresses if we fail to get out of this leauge...

[Junior Mullet]

I am most concerned about the effect this decision will have on the players. it is well known that a number of them turned down offers from higher levels this Summer in the hope that they can achieve with Saints. If we are not gunning for promotion come January you can rest assured that a number of players will desert the crazy ship I feel we could become.

 

I have said before that taken together Cortese's decisions showing worrying signs. For me this one absolutely confirms that. I am left wondering whether (a) he thinks he knows best about footballing decisions or (b) whether in fact he knows bugger all. I imagine Cortese had a bnig part to play in Papa and Guly joining us and the rumour about AP and NC rowing over a potential new signing before Saturday's game is a little disturbing.

 

History is littered with examples of Chairman who think they know better than the manager yet there arent many examples where such a situation has a happy ending.

 

I am concerned.

[alpine_saint]

If they did row before Saturdays KO and this sacking is a knee jerk reaction by Cortese then he is certainly NOT the great business guru that many would have us believe,it makes this reckless and potentially could damage this entire season for a few moments of madness.I only hope this sacking was "planned". 24 hrs till window closes and no manager in place FFS

 

SAINT TILL I DIE!

 

You are implying that this decision was a temper-tantrum from NC. I cant beleive he has come so far in business by making decisions like this.