HurleyBurley Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Joke decision Boycott the JPT tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 So now we know why there weren't many signings over the summer, NC didn't back Pardew's decision's. I am really disappointed. I think Pardew would have got us promoted this season, even if it was through the play off's. This is totally the wrong time to be replacing the Manger. Looks like no more signings this window. I ram truly shocked. Why does nothing ever run smoothly for us, not even just for a couple of seasons? Those rumours at the end of the last season were true then. The timing of this announcement is crazy right after a 4-0 away victory. What is Cortese thinking? If he was going to do it why not do it after the 1-1 draw last weekend that would have made more sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 They just said on Talksport that the rumour doing the rounds in the press is that Dennis Wise is going to be the next manager. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG please no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Dean Wilkins has been appointed caretaker manager, so maybe they really don't have someone lined up? I don't think anything is imminent, but they probably have a shortlist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 I am astonished by this news. What crazy timing: directly after an incredible 4-0 win and performance away from home; and the day before the transfer window shuts!! It reminds me of the timing in our prem relagation season of when RL sacked Sturrock. These types of decisions are usually days/weeks in the making so the "timing" on the back of a decent victory are largely coincidental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Unlucky is never an excuse in football. Clearly the decision was taken after the the first two games and may have taken account of the poor pre-season and transfer non-activity. Pardew thought the squad was good enough but it looks like Cortese doesn't agree. It has happened early enough for the new man to get in and get going. Better than a change at Christmas. Good luck to NC and to whoever we are having. Cortese with his long and extensive footballing experience and track record of getting teams out of League 1......??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 NOOOOOOOOOO Not Dennis Wise - the bloke is crazy for gods sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 My Villa fan friend says they couldn't wait to get rid of O'Neill. Think Cortese simply doesn't understand football just like Lowe. Reminds me of how Derby got rid of Clough and regretted it. Plus of course the Leeds board who were also clueless. Football is as full of idiots at Board level as it always was. Wow, a team where the fans rate lower on the IQ scale than ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Joke decision Boycott the JPT tomorrow You think that will make NC change his mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 after a few years watching football nothing surprises you so it's not a shock, just slightly odd timing. I'll reserve judgement until we see what the plan is, Cortese's structure is work in progress, let's see what he has in store and if it's crazy, let's go ape then. However if Cortese's masterplan is amazing then let's just thank Pardew for his part in turning the club around when we were in crisis and being part of the rebuilding process, and then look forwards. So I'll wait for more information before making a judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Joke decision Boycott the JPT tomorrow bit ott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 This is a real worry! What if the new manager doesn't win his first 3 games? What awful timing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Mark Dennis coming up on Talksport soon for those who are interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Timing is a bit Rupertesque, ie sacking Luggy after a win. I was thinking of Sturrock's dismissal too. Just hope NC is aware of the history and really does have a replacement lined up or close-to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 I have been totally behind Cortese until now. By all means sack him, but do it 10 minutes after full time against Southend in May. Not 3 games into a F*****G season when any new manager won't be able to bring in a SINGLE blasted player of his own likeing! WELL AND TRULY, TOTALLY AND UTTERLY... FLABAGASTED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 WTF just switched over to sky sports news & breaking news Pardew & staff sacked. Win 4-0 & get the sack just unbelievable truly unbelievable! Just when you thought that we had a bit of stability we throw it all away again. I really hope that NC knows what he is doing as I'm becoming increasingly worried that he is just a loose cannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jampot Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 In the long Cortese inteview did with Sloent didnt he say he was happy with Pardew etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Since '51 Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Dean Wilkins has been appointed caretaker manager, so maybe they really don't have someone lined up? Read the official statement. They are "evaluating candidates". They DON'T have anyone lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurleyBurley Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 bit ott. Yeah you're right, let's not stand up for anything let's just moan about stuff on here. That said it seems most of the people on here don't go to games anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Completely bonkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Crazy decision, I felt confident that AP was going to deliver top 2 so why sack him when pre-season has finished and this season's hostilities are just starting. When will we ever learn - stability is key. I just hope NC has someone better lined up, I'd like to see an out and out winner installed (like Lambert at Norwich was) , not just some razzmatazz name. BTW I wouldn't dismiss O'Neill out of hand, he's a bit of a maverick and might just be tempted to take on a squad already good enough to get out of this league and a decent infrastructure + transfer kitty in place. It might just appeal to his sense of adventure and give him a chance to really build something good at this club (and become a hero to boot). Commiserations to AP and if it's any consolation I think many fans will feel that he's been hard done by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Wilts Saint Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Leaving AP in place would have been the best chance of getting us out of L1. I cannot think of a scenario or manager that can come in and improve our chances this season. The statement even recognises change is not good. Crazy and clearly about personalities. Unlike many on here I understood Corrtese's previous actions that caused angst - they were commercial but so what we where spending big. This changes it, all my positivity from the trip to Rovers has gone - ruined my BH Monday - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussex Saint Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 I can only think that the decision was made before the the win on Saturday and that someone already lined up and he'll be appointed soon. I'm clinging to that hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La BoIS Saint Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 I could understand this sort of if Billy Big Balls had made the decision at the end of last season. To **** about and make it now is ridiculous. As stated above could well be that he has found it easier to do now Markus is dead. Have been in the NC is a muppet camp for some time and this hardly changes it. Just hope this works out. Wish I was able to be there Tuesday night to sing "one Alan Pardew". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Yeah you're right, let's not stand up for anything let's just moan about stuff on here. That said it seems most of the people on here don't go to games anyway wtf? do you really think we should boycott the game? what would that achieve? nothing. Cortese is driven and ruthless, he doesn't really care what we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 I have been a big critic of Cortese but in this instance he has got it right. He should have sacked Pardew last season really and the timing of doing it now isn't ideal, but at least he took decisive action early this season. I am now a lot more confident of promotion. Under Pardew we weren't going up imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Yeah you're right, let's not stand up for anything let's just moan about stuff on here. That said it seems most of the people on here don't go to games anyway And do you really think it will make NC change his mind regarding AP? No? Thought not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Read the official statement. They are "evaluating candidates". They DON'T have anyone lined up. Surely that means they have a shortlist and therefore do have somebody lined up out of that list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Mark Dennis is a tool. NC is worse than Ghengis Khan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 omg i hope not http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1277623/Alan-Pardew-faces-Southampton-sack-club-line-Steve-Cotterill-replacement.html Report is from May. Cotterill has a job now, employed to take the Skates down.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 tbf Mark Dennis does make a few good points. Cortese is a bit of a nutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Guardian A number of recently recruited figures to the coaching staff had resigned, reportedly citing discontent with Pardew and his closest staff. Giving the level of spending by the former West Ham United and Charlton Athletic manager, promotion is likely to be a minimum prerequisite for his successor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docker Walker6 Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Total Stupidity by NC!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgnorthSaint Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 should have got promo last season with money spent, only suprise is the timing of sacking ,behind cortese 100% Are you Serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jimbo83 Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Shocked!! Cortese is going a good way about being as popular as Rupert Lowe. Why sack him now and not in May? There is no better option out there at the moment, with the exception of Martin O'Neil, but that isn't going to happen. Fed up with the lack of stability with my club, absolute joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Joke decision Boycott the JPT tomorrow I thought everyone already had, we've only sold about 4000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La BoIS Saint Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Read the official statement. They are "evaluating candidates". They DON'T have anyone lined up. Since when would anyone take as face value what is on the OS in these circumstances. To not have anyone lined up really would be mental unless AP has walked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 The timing of this is ridiculous why oh why do it now 4-0 win win the game in hand & were 2-points behind the leaders, we have a good squad, any new manager is only going to be able to get in loan signings. And who the F**K are we going to get better. Football never continues to surprise you does it CRAZY CRAZY CRAZY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_saint Posted 30 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Read the official statement. They are "evaluating candidates". They DON'T have anyone lined up. Thats how i read it. It seemed to me that there may have been a bust up yesterday and Downes and Murdoch may have turned round and said if he goes so do we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 do not boycott the game tomorrow, go and voice you bloody opinion!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stug76 Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Given that the statement mentions stability - is there a chance that AP has been looking elsewhere and NC has got in first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 They just said on Talksport that the rumour doing the rounds in the press is that Dennis Wise is going to be the next manager. dear God no, anyone but.....surely NC can't really think that Wise would be a step up?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Shocked!! Cortese is going a good way about being as popular as Rupert Lowe. Why sack him now and not in May? There is no better option out there at the moment, with the exception of Martin O'Neil, but that isn't going to happen. Fed up with the lack of stability with my club, absolute joke! The statement infers that there was a lack of stability within the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 I think some posters owe Stu an apology... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stthrobber Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 I don't post much these days, but this decision is sheer lunacy imo. Under Pardew the club and the team has made vast strides forward. That losing mentality has gone, the team now expects to win games. Plays some bloody good football too. I heard that Pards was a dead man walking some months ago but apart from Cortese's ego and impatience I cannot see any justification for this decision. Pards himself is probably very relieved to get out of our club as it is not a happy place to work these days. I suspect that there is a manager in waiting, but please god do not let it be Zola. Great player, but not thus far, a good manager. Roberto Di Matteo would be fine if Cortese wants an Italian, but to sack a man with a good track record and a 53 percent win record at Saints, for one with a fairly poor track record and win ratio could be distastrous. Admittedly, at West Ham, Zola was hamstrung by the club being up to its eyes in debt and this would be a perfect chance for him to show what he can do with a club that is financially stable, but I don't really care about that, for me the timing of this is dreadful. Pardew was never my choice to lead the club when he came in, but I think he did well and deserves far more respect than Cortese has afforded him. Nicolowe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La BoIS Saint Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 wtf? do you really think we should boycott the game? what would that achieve? nothing. Cortese is driven and ruthless, he doesn't really care what we do. At some stage he has to care about the bottom line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Bewildered would be an understatement. Has to be in the top 3 WTF moments of my saints supporting career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsfc Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 Like many people I wouldn't have been surprised had pardew got the sack this season. I half expected it after the Plymouth game. I am though hugely disappointed and really angry with NC for this. It's doubtful we'd get O'Neill and Coppell has now retired from footy so who is out there that is better than Pardew? I'm not sure this decision has anything to do with on the pitch results (NC would be an idiot to think last season was a complete failure and that 3 games was an acceptable timescale to give someone this season to prove their worth) but more likely to do with the longterm vision/structure of the club. If AP didn't like it then there was only ever going to be one winner. The big problem I (and I suspect many other fans) have is I don't really give a toss about the behind the scenes set-up and a new state of the art training facility etc. I want out of this league and I thought Pardew was the man for the job. Results last season proved he could at least get to the playoffs (ignoring -10) whilst building a team. Getting a new man in who fits nicely into the new set-up is not the way forward imo and smacks of some of Lowes managerial appts where he tried to dabble with the managerial set-up and it backfired spectacularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon monkey Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 This is shocking, not only have we lost a quality manager but a quality coach in wally downes. God only knows what effect this will have on the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 30 August, 2010 Share Posted 30 August, 2010 It's Nicks club he does what he wants.....!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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