Toomer Posted 26 August, 2010 Posted 26 August, 2010 Can someone please explain Pardew's reluctance to play Patterson over Lambert? Patterson was hardly used, this clearly show a rift within the club and Pardew's poor management. I take it that is the joke of the day Nick?
Cricketphilly Posted 26 August, 2010 Posted 26 August, 2010 I take it that is the joke of the day Nick? It's not a bad un to be fair
Deppo Posted 26 August, 2010 Posted 26 August, 2010 The thing I REALLY don't get about Alpine is that he doesn't seem to gain one single shred of pleasure from following Saints. He puts a negative slant on everything that happens with the club. I cannot fathom why someone would spend so much of their free time obsessing over something that provides them with so little satisfaction. I mean why would you bother? You'd just go and find a hobby that gives you a little more in return or spend more time with the family. Yes, supporting Saints is not as easy as being an arm-chair Manc but to most reasonable fans each season brings new hope and every new signing has the potential of being a great. That's what being a supporter is all about. This is a perfect case in point, we're a fecking third tier English League club and yet we've gone and signed a Brazilian who would have been playing in Serie A if he had stayed where he was. So what do you do? a) look forward in anticipation to watching him play..... or b) get all depressed that he might be a signing of the Chairman and not the manager? If haven't the slightest doubt that if ever got to the CL final against Madrid and Messi scored a hat-trick as we won 4-2 that Alps would start a thread the following morning on our worrying defensive frailties..... What you don't understand is that this behaviour gets attention. This is why children from abusive/neglectful families misbehave at school. It is because, to them, bad attention is still attention.
The9 Posted 26 August, 2010 Posted 26 August, 2010 If haven't the slightest doubt that if ever got to the CL final against Madrid and Messi scored a hat-trick as we won 4-2 that Alps would start a thread the following morning on our worrying defensive frailties..... In that situation I'd say he'd wait two weeks then complain about the lack of new signings.
alpine_saint Posted 26 August, 2010 Author Posted 26 August, 2010 Keep up your joly japes guys, and watch as the results you all complacently expect fail to materialise...
NickG Posted 26 August, 2010 Posted 26 August, 2010 results are nothing to do with you looking foolish and anti the club
alpine_saint Posted 26 August, 2010 Author Posted 26 August, 2010 results are nothing to do with you looking foolish and anti the club If you want a definition of foolish, I suggest you look no further than the way you try to spin and defend absolutely everything that happens.
tttdcs Posted 26 August, 2010 Posted 26 August, 2010 If you want a definition of foolish, I suggest you look no further than the way you try to spin and defend absolutely everything that happens. did NickG hit a nerve with you "Alpine Saint"?
NickG Posted 26 August, 2010 Posted 26 August, 2010 Papa made 18 starts last season and 26 as sub. Our wide players were Lallana (IMHO best wide player in league 1 and who scored 20 goals) Puncheon - our highest provider of assists and wide player in league 1 team of the season We also had Antonio, who you and others think is a huge loss as 3rd choice. Where is the confusion? I should have stuck with the reasoned response above, however you struggle to debate reasoned responses. I have criticised where I feel right - and have done so this season. I will not make up facts to fit in with an anti-saints agenda, feel I am in a position to make demands, nor moan about odd negatives when things are going well - but you are of course free to "support" saints how you see fit. I just think it is weird!!
alpine_saint Posted 26 August, 2010 Author Posted 26 August, 2010 I should have stuck with the reasoned response above, however you struggle to debate reasoned responses. I have criticised where I feel right - and have done so this season. I will not make up facts to fit in with an anti-saints agenda, feel I am in a position to make demands, nor moan about odd negatives when things are going well - but you are of course free to "support" saints how you see fit. I just think it is weird!! As I said to you earlier this week, you support Saints how you see fit and are able, and extend me the courtesy of doing the same. I am not the only person who has commented on your refusal to view things objectively by any accepted definition of the word.
alpine_saint Posted 26 August, 2010 Author Posted 26 August, 2010 did NickG hit a nerve with you "Alpine Saint"? Nowhere near as badly as your woeful punctuation does.
NickG Posted 26 August, 2010 Posted 26 August, 2010 I view saints subjectively. I have even sung by far the greatest team... however I am sure you would have been telling the crowd how wrong they are! This is nothing objective about liking a football team... thats where we clearly differ. You appear to get no enjoyment from saints - why bother? Genuine question. And your response to my thoughts on why papa didn't play more (some objective facts there!!)
alpine_saint Posted 26 August, 2010 Author Posted 26 August, 2010 I view saints subjectively. I have even sung by far the greatest team... however I am sure you would have been telling the crowd how wrong they are! This is nothing objective about liking a football team... thats where we clearly differ. You appear to get no enjoyment from saints - why bother? Genuine question. And your response to my thoughts on why papa didn't play more (some objective facts there!!) I have sung the same song, but I can still walk away, analyse events on and off the pitch and conclude that the club or team has issues in an objective manner. Thanks for confirming your delusional behaviour though. Well Done.
NickG Posted 26 August, 2010 Posted 26 August, 2010 I have sung the same song, but I can still walk away, analyse events on and off the pitch and conclude that the club or team has issues in an objective manner. Thanks for confirming your delusional behaviour though. Well Done. made me chuckle, my kids do that when losing and arguement!
Running Man Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 On another Saints site, the editorial is suggesting that AP might not have been behind the loan of Goolie. I assume the inference is that this is an NC-inspired signing, what with the Italian connection... The same piece reminds of a similar loan last season, Papa, who although he definitely brought something to the team, enhanced our options and scored goals, was not permanently signed despite an option to do so; the word being AP didnt take to him and he didnt take to AP. When you consider how sparsely he was used, his goal return wasnt that bad. The AP-Papa situation may have been driven mainly by a personality clash; however, it is equally possible that the personality clash was caused by a reluctance to play him from AP. The question bodes, therefore : Are we sure we are going to see a lot of Goolie, or are circumstances different this time and we will see him out of sheer desperation ? Morning Alps You know you really should post more often on 'another Saints site'. I find it more fun over there (different user name though). As you can see from this recent quote (not from me) you're missed: The darkside's policy of banning has given us 19c, Chesticles, Stu and Alpine - all top class cack merchants. Before long they will all be here and the darkside will be the forum to use rather than this one. It's all well and good Nick moaning about all getting along but he has ignored Chesticles little vendettas and personal insults and so I'm afraid has made a rod for his own back. http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/fb_mb.php?m=v&t=5252&page=2#129 See ya.
suewhistle Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 I like to hear both sides of an arguement though. Granted, Alpine does enjoy playing Devil's advocate but it is needed in a forum. A lot of you chaps bite far to readily. You've not been here long, have you? A Devil's Advocate has implications of arguing an opposing point even if you don't entirely believe it. The OP takes himself entirely seriously and has a complete and pompous lack of humour. Means unintentional fun sometimes, but the general tenor of the posts means any decent points get lost, and individual points in conflicting posts rarely get answered satisfactorily.
Cricketphilly Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 You've not been here long, have you? A Devil's Advocate has implications of arguing an opposing point even if you don't entirely believe it. The OP takes himself entirely seriously and has a complete and pompous lack of humour. Means unintentional fun sometimes, but the general tenor of the posts means any decent points get lost, and individual points in conflicting posts rarely get answered satisfactorily. Ha Ha, been here to long! In it's previous incarnation as well. My point was that when people over react it inflames
hypochondriac Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 You've not been here long, have you? A Devil's Advocate has implications of arguing an opposing point even if you don't entirely believe it. The OP takes himself entirely seriously and has a complete and pompous lack of humour. Means unintentional fun sometimes, but the general tenor of the posts means any decent points get lost, and individual points in conflicting posts rarely get answered satisfactorily. Fantastic post. SOmetimes Alpine actualy has a point, it's just he is so insulting and patronising the rest of the time that any decent point he wants to make is lost.
Scudamore Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 So i ignore Alpine but i still have to read about the mug? Oy vey!
hypochondriac Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 So i ignore Alpine but i still have to read about the mug? Oy vey! Sorry. I have him on ignore now. It is rather liberating.
Scudamore Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 It's best on the iPhone. None of the "This message is hidden because alpine_saint is on your ignore list" rubbish. Just the sound of silence! I know it's an alpine heavy thread when i scroll down to the bottom through about five posts of exasperation from other posters!
Scudamore Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 I'm putting Al Penis the WUM on ignore Good for you. Power to the people!
The9 Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 I did it ages ago during Admin, along with loads of other people who were just banging on about the same thing all the time. Then I had an amnesty, so everyone who hadn't been banned already came off it. It's impossible to avoid him anyway due to quoting.
hypochondriac Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 It's best on the iPhone. None of the "This message is hidden because alpine_saint is on your ignore list" rubbish. Just the sound of silence! I know it's an alpine heavy thread when i scroll down to the bottom through about five posts of exasperation from other posters! Mods any way of doing this on the main site?
hypochondriac Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 I'm putting Al Penis the WUM on ignore If everyone followed suit this forum would be a lot better.
Saint Charlie Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 Ive got him on ignore too, best thing to do! Then we can enjoy the forum again. Please can people not quote him so we don't have to read the drivel!
hypochondriac Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 Maybe we should start a campaign of some sort. If everyone gets him on ignore then he is effectively banned from the forum. Come on people you know it makes sense!
Deppo Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 Maybe we should start a campaign of some sort. If everyone gets him on ignore then he is effectively banned from the forum. Come on people you know it makes sense! The problem is not just Alpines nonsensical and hysterical posts, it is your reaction to those posts. And I mean you in particular. I'm not just bored of reading his posts, I am bored of reading your responses, much like the one above.
hypochondriac Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 The problem is not just Alpines nonsensical and hysterical posts, it is your reaction to those posts. And I mean you in particular. I'm not just bored of reading his posts, I am bored of reading your responses, much like the one above. No problem deppo. I have him on ignore now so he can't bother me with his stupidity.
alpine_saint Posted 27 August, 2010 Author Posted 27 August, 2010 The problem is not just Alpines nonsensical and hysterical posts, it is your reaction to those posts. And I mean you in particular. I'm not just bored of reading his posts, I am bored of reading your responses, much like the one above. No....stop....STOP. Its much, much better to demonise me. It makes it so much easier to deal with the hollowness and weakness of the excuses for Saints poor start this season by getting really angry at the perceived main messenger of this on this site..
The9 Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 No....stop....STOP. Its much, much better to demonise me. It makes it so much easier to deal with the hollowness and weakness of the excuses for Saints poor start this season by getting really angry at the perceived main messenger of this on this site.. Most people are quite "meh" about it because they've seen the performances and know we can't keep failing to get results when we play better than the opposition the majority of the time, give it a couple more games and if we're still scuffling about in the bottom half then it's a problem, not a blip. As usual however, you want to slate anything and everything...
John B Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 If everyone followed suit this forum would be a lot better. It would be better if nobody replied to his posts which I suppose is the same as you suggest I think his unreasonable ranting is spoiling the forum
alpine_saint Posted 27 August, 2010 Author Posted 27 August, 2010 Most people are quite "meh" about it because they've seen the performances and know we can't keep failing to get results when we play better than the opposition the majority of the time, give it a couple more games and if we're still scuffling about in the bottom half then it's a problem, not a blip. As usual however, you want to slate anything and everything... The same people said the same things about our transfer activity and they would start worrying if we hadnt addressed the issues by the end of August. Oh..........
dellgirl Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 Papa was incredibly arrogant just after he joined the Club he told a friend of mine that football was finished in Italy and France and that he was biding his time with us to be called up for the premier league which was where he was going,they spoke the same language so no misunderstanding. I fear he thought he was much much better than he was.
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 I don't really understand drawing parallels between them. They are different players. Unless you are being racist, alpine. Do we all look the same to you? Is that what you are saying? I thought the only people who said this kind of thing these days were wishy-washy white liberals. So I'm very surprised you got away with that tripe so easily. Two attacking players loaned from Italy at the start of a season would seem on the face of it to be where the two cases are the same. I failed to find it particularly important that they are both black, I'm afraid.
Scudamore Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 I thought the only people who said this kind of thing these days were wishy-washy white liberals. So I'm very surprised you got away with that tripe so easily. Two attacking players loaned from Italy at the start of a season would seem on the face of it to be where the two cases are the same. I failed to find it particularly important that they are both black, I'm afraid. Racist
kpturner Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 I thought the only people who said this kind of thing these days were wishy-washy white liberals. So I'm very surprised you got away with that tripe so easily. Two attacking players loaned from Italy at the start of a season would seem on the face of it to be where the two cases are the same. I failed to find it particularly important that they are both black, I'm afraid.Not seen many of Deppo's posts before I take it?
alpine_saint Posted 27 August, 2010 Author Posted 27 August, 2010 I thought the only people who said this kind of thing these days were wishy-washy white liberals. So I'm very surprised you got away with that tripe so easily. Two attacking players loaned from Italy at the start of a season would seem on the face of it to be where the two cases are the same. I failed to find it particularly important that they are both black, I'm afraid. I saw Deppo's point and decided to let is slide- simply because it was ridiculous. The link I was making is clearly the NC / Italy / loan issues. However, he used the term "we", so maybe hes a bit touchy having experienced racial abuse himself, for which I am truly sorry.
Deppo Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 I failed to find it particularly important that they are both black, I'm afraid. Oh, I get it. We're not "important" now? You people make me sick.
The9 Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 The same people said the same things about our transfer activity and they would start worrying if we hadnt addressed the issues by the end of August. Oh.......... I doubt you've successfully tracked those peoples' opinions to know it's "the same people", when you can't even keep a record of your own opinion. It's also a sweeping generalisation to say that everyone pinpointed the end of August as their cut off for mad panicking. Different people have different expectations, but I think there's a general acceptance that we have one of, if not THE best squads in the division already, and that a couple of loan players from a higher level might help out, but we're plenty good enough to have been winning games already, we just haven't taken enough chances.
NickG Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 Can someone please explain Pardew's reluctance to play Patterson over Lambert? Patterson was hardly used, this clearly show a rift within the club and Pardew's poor management. me and alpine want to get to the bottom of these rifts - first Patterson then Papa - what's going on?
tttdcs Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 me and alpine want to get to the bottom of these rifts - first Patterson then Papa - what's going on? Ssshhhh "Alpine Saint" may have forgotten that one.
alpine_saint Posted 27 August, 2010 Author Posted 27 August, 2010 me and alpine want to get to the bottom of these rifts - first Patterson then Papa - what's going on? Classic narcissism - quoting your own posts.
NickG Posted 27 August, 2010 Posted 27 August, 2010 Can you explain why AP was so reluctant to use him then, if he knew all about him ? Papa made 18 starts last season and 26 as sub. Our wide players were Lallana (IMHO best wide player in league 1 and who scored 20 goals) Puncheon - our highest provider of assists and wide player in league 1 team of the season We also had Antonio, who you and others think is a huge loss as 3rd choice. Where is the confusion? go on then, one from each of us and back on topic as well! are you happy this explains the situation or do you think there is a more negative explanation as your OP hinted?
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 31 August, 2010 Posted 31 August, 2010 Oh, I get it. We're not "important" now? You people make me sick. "You people"! Ah, the old racist reverse-racism trick! And the "We"? A forward on loan from Italy now, are you? Confused about your identity, by any chance?
Deppo Posted 31 August, 2010 Posted 31 August, 2010 "You people"! Ah, the old racist reverse-racism trick! And the "We"? A forward on loan from Italy now, are you? Confused about your identity, by any chance? Pardon?
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