Living and Working Abroad

[SuperMikey]

I'm starting to look into things to do after University, and I quite fancy the idea of a few years after Uni working or studying abroad. This is probably because i'm going straight into Uni without doing a gap year, and i'm the type that likes to go to other places and explore a bit.

 

I've been looking at possible things that I could do, but does anyone have recommendations? I'd love to live in Sweden for a while, i've visited and stayed with family a few times and I love it there. Been looking at the courses on offer for Postgrad because the work regulations seem to be very strict.

[RedAndWhite91]

Been thinking of doing the same, since I'm not going to Uni. Don't know where I'd go or what I'd do though. This site is pretty decent I think, depending on what you want to do - http://www.workingabroad.com/

 

Good luck.

[norwaysaint]

Sweden is the only country I'd consider moving to from here. I spent a Summer living in Gothenburg and loved it there. You'd probably find the cost of living too high here.

[GenevaSaint]

I lived in France but worked in Geneva (only a 30 minute commute), fantastic place to live and work. Entry regulations are ok as they have a bi-lateral agreement with the EU.

[Red and White Army]

Check out working holiday visas if you want to go to some of the Commonwealth countries like Australia.

[Deppo]

I'm starting to look into things to do after University, and I quite fancy the idea of a few years after Uni working or studying abroad. This is probably because i'm going straight into Uni without doing a gap year, and i'm the type that likes to go to other places and explore a bit.

 

I've been looking at possible things that I could do, but does anyone have recommendations? I'd love to live in Sweden for a while, i've visited and stayed with family a few times and I love it there. Been looking at the courses on offer for Postgrad because the work regulations seem to be very strict.

 

Aren't you just about to start Uni? That'll take 3 years, a lot can change in 3 years. My advice is don't worry your pretty little head about it now, wait a bit.

[dune]

Have you considered missionary work?

[alpine_saint]

I'm starting to look into things to do after University, and I quite fancy the idea of a few years after Uni working or studying abroad. This is probably because i'm going straight into Uni without doing a gap year, and i'm the type that likes to go to other places and explore a bit.

 

I've been looking at possible things that I could do, but does anyone have recommendations? I'd love to live in Sweden for a while, i've visited and stayed with family a few times and I love it there. Been looking at the courses on offer for Postgrad because the work regulations seem to be very strict.

 

What work regulations ? If you are an EU citizen you can turn up there without a VISA or work permission and apply for jobs once you are there.

[alpine_saint]

Have you considered missionary work?

 

I've done some of my best work in a missionary position.

[Turkish]

I'm starting to look into things to do after University, and I quite fancy the idea of a few years after Uni working or studying abroad. This is probably because i'm going straight into Uni without doing a gap year, and i'm the type that likes to go to other places and explore a bit.

 

I've been looking at possible things that I could do, but does anyone have recommendations? I'd love to live in Sweden for a while, i've visited and stayed with family a few times and I love it there. Been looking at the courses on offer for Postgrad because the work regulations seem to be very strict.

 

I've got an idea, leave university and get a job in England and start paying back all the UK taxes and loans you have used over your time at University.

[dune]

I've got an idea, leave university and get a job in England and start paying back all the UK taxes and loans you have used over your time at University.

 

To be fair to those at University now they have got it far worse than we ever did. The issue of tuition fee's is probably the only Liberal policy I do agree with, although thanks to labours mishandling of the economy I don't think we can afford to go back to how it was for a while yet. I think it's fundamentally wrong how the Socialists deprived many less well off people the chance to better themselves whilst squandering money in other areas.

[thefunkygibbons]

Spent 3 fantastic years in the Middle East

 

But then again, I trained after Uni in a profession that had transferrable skills

 

Going straight abraod after Uni without a profession may be harder

[SuperMikey]

Aren't you just about to start Uni? That'll take 3 years, a lot can change in 3 years. My advice is don't worry your pretty little head about it now, wait a bit.

 

Thanks Uncle Deppo, I can always rely on you. Can't hurt to plan ahead a bit though, eh?

[SuperMikey]

I've got an idea, leave university and get a job in England and start paying back all the UK taxes and loans you have used over your time at University.

 

I will, eventually. Forgive me for wanting to see somewhere that isn't bloody Hampshire for once..

[RedAndWhite91]

I will, eventually. Forgive me for wanting to see somewhere that isn't bloody Hampshire for once..

 

Wiltshire is alright.

[RonManager]

I will, eventually. Forgive me for wanting to see somewhere that isn't bloody Hampshire for once..

 

But just how much of Hampshire have you actually explored? There are many hidden corners. Same can be said for the UK in general. In my 25-30 years as an archaeologist I have seen most of the British Isles, but still there are parts I haven't been to.

 

If not, then China.

[Jillyanne]

Wiltshire is alright.

 

I thought he was banned?

[Turkish]

I will, eventually. Forgive me for wanting to see somewhere that isn't bloody Hampshire for once..

 

If you really must put off giving something back to this country then i suggest you do something worthwhile with your time, go and help build an orphanage in Africa or somewhere like that, do a bit of AID work in a foreign country, something that will be a good life expereince and be a grounding experience making you realise how lucky you are to be born into a relatively civilised society and have the opportunity to make something of yourself. You should not waste it by arsing around in no mark countries getting p*ssed and living off your parents or loans. I'd suggest this for most of these arrogant little c*nts universities churn out these days. Coming into the job market with the attitude that the world owes them a living because they have a degree, rich parents and have a divine right to instant riches and promotions because of it.

[SuperMikey]

If you really must put off giving something back to this country then i suggest you do something worthwhile with your time, go and help build an orphanage in Africa or somewhere like that, do a bit of AID work in a foreign country, something that will be a good life expereince and be a grounding experience making you realise how lucky you are to be born into a relatively civilised society and have the opportunity to make something of yourself. You should not waste it by arsing around in no mark countries getting p*ssed and living off your parents or loans. I'd suggest this for most of these arrogant little c*nts universities churn out these days. Coming into the job market with the attitude that the world owes them a living because they have a degree, rich parents and have a divine right to instant riches and promotions because of it.

 

Have you been texting Dune again?

[Barney Trubble]

Maybe you could look at undertaking a TEFL course. Most countries will accept this for immersion technique teaching at a foreign school. A friend of mine has been inThailand for over a year, the moneys not great but the lifestyle is wonderful.

[Turkish]

Have you been texting Dune again?

 

No, if universities did courses in arrogance, half of the little f*ckers i meet in my job would get a masters.

[SuperMikey]

No, if universities did courses in arrogance, half of the little f*ckers i meet in my job would get a masters.

 

Fair enough, most people are c*nts nowadays, especially people my age. What is a TEFL course Barney?

[RedAndWhite91]

I thought he was banned?

 

Probably, he's a ****.

[Barney Trubble]

Fair enough, most people are c*nts nowadays, especially people my age. What is a TEFL course Barney?

 

Basically teaching foreign children/adults in their native country. The idea being that they learn better from an English speaker. Many Asian countries are desperate for teachers who speak English[Native].....you don't have to have a degree for a lot of countries, a TEFL qualification would be fine although ensure that you undertake a course with as much classroom based work as possible.....you need to really do a minimum of twenty hours. I backed up my TEFL by doing voluntary work at schools in England for foreign students[ESOL] to get my classroom experience up to add to my CV.

 

I can't go abroad until next year but will look at Thailand myself, you would be technically classed as a non qualified teacher but so was my friend and he has not been out of work at all yet, in fact, he's making a mint out of one-to-one teaching after his school hours.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEFL

[Turkish]

Fair enough, most people are c*nts nowadays, especially people my age. What is a TEFL course Barney?

 

I agree.

[SuperMikey]

Basically teaching foreign children/adults in their native country. The idea being that they learn better from an English speaker. Many Asian countries are desperate for teachers who speak English[Native].....you don't have to have a degree for a lot of countries, a TEFL qualification would be fine although ensure that you undertake a course with as much classroom based work as possible.....you need to really do a minimum of twenty hours. I backed up my TEFL by doing voluntary work at schools in England for foreign students[ESOL] to get my classroom experience up to add to my CV.

 

I can't go abroad until next year but will look at Thailand myself, you would be technically classed as a non qualified teacher but so was my friend and he has not been out of work at all yet, in fact, he's making a mint out of one-to-one teaching after his school hours.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEFL

 

That sounds good, i'd love to go to Japan for a bit so that could be a very good option. Thanks!

[Turkish]

That sounds good, i'd love to go to Japan for a bit so that could be a very good option. Thanks!

 

yep another first world country. Do something for other people, go and experience what life is like to have f*ck all, not some other rich country. You'll come back realising just how arrogant and materialistic the western world is. It really does change your perspective of life seeing people living in shanty towns and slums, plus what sounds better when you do want a job, "i spent a year bumming round living off handouts and loans in Japan and Australia" or "i wanted to do something positive with my life, so spent a year in Uganda, helping build orphanages" I know which one i'd find more worthwhile.

[Joensuu]

But just how much of Hampshire have you actually explored? There are many hidden corners. Same can be said for the UK in general. In my 25-30 years as an archaeologist I have seen most of the British Isles, but still there are parts I haven't been to.

 

If not, then China.

 

An archaeologist? Used to work for the CBA, but left archaeology behind about 6 or 7 years ago. Are you a field archaeologist, or linked to a uni or council?

[dune]

But just how much of Hampshire have you actually explored? There are many hidden corners. Same can be said for the UK in general. In my 25-30 years as an archaeologist I have seen most of the British Isles, but still there are parts I haven't been to.

 

If not, then China.

 

Which one are you?

 

 

[moonraker]

What I find amusing is the juxtapostion of this thread with the one ranting about UK Over population. SuperMikey is in the fortunate postion that he can travel widely and find work, go for it get out in the wide world and gain some life experience as well as work experience. It is a good job he is not a johnny foreigner trying to come here.

[dune]

What I find amusing is the juxtapostion of this thread with the one ranting about UK Over population. SuperMikey is in the fortunate postion that he can travel widely and find work, go for it get out in the wide world and gain some life experience as well as work experience. It is a good job he is not a johnny foreigner trying to come here.

 

Which is why he should do something worthwhile like working for a christian mission in Damascus. That'd be something interesting and worthwhile you could look back at and it'd sit well on a cv, wheras dossing around Japan or Australia paid for by mummy and daddy just paints the picture spoilt brat who's too idle to work.

[Joensuu]

Which is why he should do something worthwhile like working for a christian mission in Damascus. That'd be something interesting and worthwhile you could look back at and it'd sit well on a cv, wheras dossing around Japan or Australia paid for by mummy and daddy just paints the picture spoilt brat who's too idle to work.

 

That of course depends entirely upon whether you consider 'working for a christian mission in Damascus' as being 'worthwhile'. Interesting, perhaps, but 'worthwhile', IMO most certainly not.

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[landford.saint]

There is a big wide wonderful world out there, go and enjoy it. I'm only now planning to do this now my kids are old enough to leave the nest. Get out there and see as much as of it as you can before you get embroiled in mortgage wife kids etc etc

[SuperMikey]

Not sure where people are getting this whole spoilt brat thing from, I work for my money and don't rely on my parents like most of my friends do. Any travelling I will be doing will be funded by working during Uni and the summer, as i'm already going to incurr enough debt by going to Uni in the first place (about £8.5k p/a) and I don't need any more loans on top of that. As for doing something worthwhile, of course I will be doing something to help others. My cousin has just got a place on a program to go and build houses for people in the Nairobi slums and that's the kind of thing i'll be looking to do, as well as a bit more travelling and seeing a bit more of the world. Mm'kay?

[moonraker]

Not sure where people are getting this whole spoilt brat thing from, I work for my money and don't rely on my parents like most of my friends do. Any travelling I will be doing will be funded by working during Uni and the summer, as i'm already going to incurr enough debt by going to Uni in the first place (about £8.5k p/a) and I don't need any more loans on top of that. As for doing something worthwhile, of course I will be doing something to help others. My cousin has just got a place on a program to go and build houses for people in the Nairobi slums and that's the kind of thing i'll be looking to do, as well as a bit more travelling and seeing a bit more of the world. Mm'kay?

 

Mikey it is the usual sterotyping, ignore it and enjoy yourself.

[SuperMikey]

I'm not going for 3 years anyway!

[Puddings and Monkeys]

I'm not going for 3 years anyway!

 

You'll be tied up in a nice job in call centre by then.

[RonManager]

An archaeologist? Used to work for the CBA, but left archaeology behind about 6 or 7 years ago. Are you a field archaeologist, or linked to a uni or council?

 

Freelance now, but have worked for many units (Wessex etc); Historic Scotland and was staff at Glasgow Uni in the 90s. Imostly deal with listed standing building renovation, and what you might call 'heritage engineering'.

 

I also do illustration and graphic design.

Edited 26 August, 2010 by RonManager

[RonManager]

Which one are you?

 

 

All of them.

[Essruu]

i'm the type that likes to go to other places and explore a bit.

 

Assuming that you've just finished A Levels at the usual age after secondary school (and not in remedial classes or re-sits) then you're still in your 'teens. How do you know that you're the sort of person that likes to go to other places and explore a bit? Apart from family holidays, where have you been and what have you explored?

You've started this thread at least 3yrs before you're likely to set sail and explore: it seems more likely that you're a bit of a dreamer and just like talking about doing things. I bet you haven't even got a telescope or a compass.

[ericofarabia]

Assuming that you've just finished A Levels at the usual age after secondary school (and not in remedial classes or re-sits) then you're still in your 'teens. How do you know that you're the sort of person that likes to go to other places and explore a bit? Apart from family holidays, where have you been and what have you explored?

You've started this thread at least 3yrs before you're likely to set sail and explore: it seems more likely that you're a bit of a dreamer and just like talking about doing things. I bet you haven't even got a telescope or a compass.

 

He might have an eye patch or a pirate's hat from an end of term fancy dress party!!

[dubai_phil]

Which is why he should do something worthwhile like working for a christian mission in Damascus. That'd be something interesting and worthwhile you could look back at and it'd sit well on a cv, wheras dossing around Japan or Australia paid for by mummy and daddy just paints the picture spoilt brat who's too idle to work.

 

Would that be at the Coptic, the Orthodox or the raving loonie Southern Yankie mission?

[Turkish]

Not sure where people are getting this whole spoilt brat thing from, I work for my money and don't rely on my parents like most of my friends do. Any travelling I will be doing will be funded by working during Uni and the summer, as i'm already going to incurr enough debt by going to Uni in the first place (about £8.5k p/a) and I don't need any more loans on top of that. As for doing something worthwhile, of course I will be doing something to help others. My cousin has just got a place on a program to go and build houses for people in the Nairobi slums and that's the kind of thing i'll be looking to do, as well as a bit more travelling and seeing a bit more of the world. Mm'kay?

 

If you are going to incurr £27.5ks worth of debt over three years (assuming you pass and dont have to retake any years) for the privilidge of getting a degree you really should look to start paying it back asap, no one wants to be saddled with that sort of debt going into their mid twenties. By then you will be looking at getting a mortgage, long term girlfriend etc, and that sort of debt is not really worth it, especially not for a degree in Media Studies.

BTW in my experience you are underestimating, it always cost more than you think, even more so if you are planning to save during you university years for your globetrotting. Are you really going to stay in, saving those extra few pounds for your trip, while all your rich uni buddies are out partying on their handouts from mummy and Daddy? You'll be the university recluse, the laughing stock of the year, You'll be dubbed Mikey no mates. While all your male course buddies are emptying their sack into the uni bikes, you'll be dreaming of Tokyo sipping on your 3 litre bottle of White Lighting to reruns of Friends.

[angelman]

I had a friend who did an English teaching course in Seoul and absolutely HATED every minute of it.

 

I worked in south west France when I was 18 for 3 years. Fantastic time, but did only get glimpses of Saints on the highlights show at about 2am. Think that that, and the lack of decent beer, pork pies and decent cheese (ie cheddar) were the only draw backs. The birds weren't that fit, but they were very "friendly".

[dune]

Freelance now, but have worked for many units (Wessex etc); Historic Scotland and was staff at Glasgow Uni in the 90s. Imostly deal with listed standing building renovation, and what you might call 'heritage engineering'.

 

I also do illustration and graphic design.

 

What a cool job. I'd enjoy digging holes looking for treasure as my dream job was to become a pirate. What's the best thing you've ever found?

[Surman4no7shirt]

I'm starting to look into things to do after University, and I quite fancy the idea of a few years after Uni working or studying abroad. This is probably because i'm going straight into Uni without doing a gap year, and i'm the type that likes to go to other places and explore a bit.

 

I've been looking at possible things that I could do, but does anyone have recommendations? I'd love to live in Sweden for a while, i've visited and stayed with family a few times and I love it there. Been looking at the courses on offer for Postgrad because the work regulations seem to be very strict.

 

 

Go abroad, great experience. Go somewhere sunny is my advice. it's much easier within the EU. My advice is to get a foreign girlfriend then go back to her country for a few years after uni. Spanish girls are fit and it's sunny there. Try that. You can work anywhere in the world if you speak English and you try hard enough.

[Jonnyboy]

If you are going to incurr £27.5ks worth of debt over three years (assuming you pass and dont have to retake any years) for the privilidge of getting a degree you really should look to start paying it back asap, no one wants to be saddled with that sort of debt going into their mid twenties. By then you will be looking at getting a mortgage, long term girlfriend etc, and that sort of debt is not really worth it, especially not for a degree in Media Studies.

BTW in my experience you are underestimating, it always cost more than you think, even more so if you are planning to save during you university years for your globetrotting. Are you really going to stay in, saving those extra few pounds for your trip, while all your rich uni buddies are out partying on their handouts from mummy and Daddy? You'll be the university recluse, the laughing stock of the year, You'll be dubbed Mikey no mates. While all your male course buddies are emptying their sack into the uni bikes, you'll be dreaming of Tokyo sipping on your 3 litre bottle of White Lighting to reruns of Friends.

 

chip? shoulder?

[Turkish]

chip? shoulder?

 

Not at all, just warning our Micheal Palin wannabe of the treacherous road that lays ahead.

[Jonnyboy]

If you really must put off giving something back to this country then i suggest you do something worthwhile with your time, go and help build an orphanage in Africa or somewhere like that, do a bit of AID work in a foreign country, something that will be a good life expereince and be a grounding experience making you realise how lucky you are to be born into a relatively civilised society and have the opportunity to make something of yourself. You should not waste it by arsing around in no mark countries getting p*ssed and living off your parents or loans. I'd suggest this for most of these arrogant little c*nts universities churn out these days. Coming into the job market with the attitude that the world owes them a living because they have a degree, rich parents and have a divine right to instant riches and promotions because of it.

 

what if you have a degree, rich parents AND have built an orphanage in Africa? Are you allowewd to be an arrogant c*nt then?

[Jonnyboy]

To be fair to those at University now they have got it far worse than we ever did. The issue of tuition fee's is probably the only Liberal policy I do agree with, although thanks to labours mishandling of the economy I don't think we can afford to go back to how it was for a while yet. I think it's fundamentally wrong how the Socialists deprived many less well off people the chance to better themselves whilst squandering money in other areas.

 

just think, if we had a MORE socialist taxation system we could scrap tuition fees