The Kraken Posted 27 August, 2010 Share Posted 27 August, 2010 Each of you and David carry on and settle for us being like Rochdale, that's your perogative - so God bless you for that. Whatever leaves you content Some of us want and expect more. And yes I would rather be playing and rivaling Man U than your perception of what should be our appropriate level rival - (again) Rochdale. Stop being such a drama queen. He's pointing out that, as a club, it's no good resting on past glories or where you think your club should be. Right now we're in the third tier of English football, and so are Rochdale. It's up to the club to sort out that imbalance, but until that happens we can only "carry on and be like Rochdale" as, for now, they are our competitors. No amount of complaining how unfair it all is, and how we're above all that, is going to change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 27 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 27 August, 2010 Stop being such a drama queen. He's pointing out that, as a club, it's no good resting on past glories or where you think your club should be. Right now we're in the third tier of English football, and so are Rochdale. It's up to the club to sort out that imbalance, but until that happens we can only "carry on and be like Rochdale" as, for now, they are our competitors. No amount of complaining how unfair it all is, and how we're above all that, is going to change it. Starting a response (no matter how valid) with a barely, high school level name calling pretty well negates anything you may or may not have said...so why don't you repost/rethink whatever it was that you were intending to say in an adult manner. I want to know your opinion my respected fellow Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 27 August, 2010 Share Posted 27 August, 2010 I'd hate to see it when the OP isn't hesitant to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 27 August, 2010 Share Posted 27 August, 2010 Tim. Think its time to re-hydrate. I'm off to share a Water or two with Kade and plan our trip to Brizzle with The Monk. Kenny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 27 August, 2010 Share Posted 27 August, 2010 Starting a response (no matter how valid) with a barely, high school level name calling pretty well negates anything you may or may not have said...so why don't you repost/rethink whatever it was that you were intending to say in an adult manner. I want to know your opinion my respected fellow Saint My opinion is that you're bleating about someone pointing out that we're in the same league as Rochdale. They weren't for one minute saying that our club was the same as their's, simply that we're in the same league as them. You, however, seemed to twist that to say that we aspire to be in the same class as Rochdale, which clearly wasn't what was being inferred. And I credit you with enough wisdom to have known that in the first place, hence the childish moniker I ascribed you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 27 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 27 August, 2010 I'd hate to see it when the OP isn't hesitant to post. Love y'sense of irony/sarcasm/humor or whatever it is mate. Keep the good work up, it is best to stay light-hearted, so thanks. Quick question, do you or have you ever posted anything topic related? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 27 August, 2010 Share Posted 27 August, 2010 I thought the topic was you? The title refers to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 27 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 27 August, 2010 My opinion is that you're bleating about someone pointing out that we're in the same league as Rochdale. They weren't for one minute saying that our club was the same as their's, simply that we're in the same league as them. You, however, seemed to twist that to say that we aspire to be in the same class as Rochdale, which clearly wasn't what was being inferred. And I credit you with enough wisdom to have known that in the first place, hence the childish moniker I ascribed you. Thank you T K, I can see how you may feel that way. It is also possible that you have a valid point about other's perceptions of our current plight (and it is a plight). It is also a valid observation to many that some of these posters have 'settled' for Rochdale etc as our level/rivals etc...opinions mate, opinions. I originally posted this because of the total disbelief, disatisfaction and disappointment of seeing our beloved Southampton Football Club below Rochdale. I would say that should the only time we should ever be under them is 'alphabetically at the start of the season before a ball is kicked'...however we should never be in the same division. Maybe I just have higher expectations based on my lifetime support of Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 27 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 27 August, 2010 I thought the topic was you? The title refers to this. Say something funny, you're much better when you try to be humurous mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 27 August, 2010 Share Posted 27 August, 2010 How do you stop a dog humping your leg? Pick it up and suck it's c*ck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 27 August, 2010 Share Posted 27 August, 2010 Starting a response (no matter how valid) with a barely, high school level name calling pretty well negates anything you may or may not have said...so why don't you repost/rethink whatever it was that you were intending to say in an adult manner. I want to know your opinion my respected fellow Saint Is this hissy fit because he called oyu a drama queen? Grow a thicker skin and read the rest of his post. He makes a good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 27 August, 2010 Share Posted 27 August, 2010 I'm sorry but I just don't think saying Rochdale are some inferior football club to us is fair on that club. Their supporters who has seen nothing but abject cellar-dweller since before I was born - 1962 - celebrated promotion last season and I bet they enjoyed every single kick of the ball win, draw or lose and then some of our fans come on here and belittle them and say they are insignificant. It is exactly the sort of stuff I have always heard from my Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea and other 'top' side supporting mates about Saints - therefore I for one will never, ever join that band wagon. Believe or not I actually want Southampton to win every game and be top of the ****y Premiership but it aint' gonna happen real soon and I don't think because we were a top league side for 29 years or so that all of sudden we now have right to be there. I will never belittle any club in our division, or any above us or below, they are as valid as a club and have as passionate supporters as we do.....sorry it's in my nature and anyone is welcome to argue with me as long as they like - I can't change my nature very much at 48 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 27 August, 2010 Share Posted 27 August, 2010 Thank you T K, I can see how you may feel that way. It is also possible that you have a valid point about other's perceptions of our current plight (and it is a plight). It is also a valid observation to many that some of these posters have 'settled' for Rochdale etc as our level/rivals etc...opinions mate, opinions. I originally posted this because of the total disbelief, disatisfaction and disappointment of seeing our beloved Southampton Football Club below Rochdale. I would say that should the only time we should ever be under them is 'alphabetically at the start of the season before a ball is kicked'...however we should never be in the same division. Maybe I just have higher expectations based on my lifetime support of Saints. can add QPR, Cardiff, Millwall,Watford, Doncaster, etc etc to Rochdale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 27 August, 2010 Share Posted 27 August, 2010 I'm sorry but I just don't think saying Rochdale are some inferior football club to us is fair on that club. Their supporters who has seen nothing but abject cellar-dweller since before I was born - 1962 - celebrated promotion last season and I bet they enjoyed every single kick of the ball win, draw or lose and then some of our fans come on here and belittle them and say they are insignificant. It is exactly the sort of stuff I have always heard from my Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea and other 'top' side supporting mates about Saints - therefore I for one will never, ever join that band wagon. Believe or not I actually want Southampton to win every game and be top of the ****y Premiership but it aint' gonna happen real soon and I don't think because we were a top league side for 29 years or so that all of sudden we now have right to be there. I will never belittle any club in our division, or any above us or below, they are as valid as a club and have as passionate supporters as we do.....sorry it's in my nature and anyone is welcome to argue with me as long as they like - I can't change my nature very much at 48 years old. Well said. I'm constantly amazed at the billy big ******** attitude of some saints fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 27 August, 2010 Share Posted 27 August, 2010 I'm sorry but I just don't think saying Rochdale are some inferior football club to us is fair on that club. Their supporters who has seen nothing but abject cellar-dweller since before I was born - 1962 - celebrated promotion last season and I bet they enjoyed every single kick of the ball win, draw or lose and then some of our fans come on here and belittle them and say they are insignificant. It is exactly the sort of stuff I have always heard from my Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea and other 'top' side supporting mates about Saints - therefore I for one will never, ever join that band wagon. Believe or not I actually want Southampton to win every game and be top of the ****y Premiership but it aint' gonna happen real soon and I don't think because we were a top league side for 29 years or so that all of sudden we now have right to be there. I will never belittle any club in our division, or any above us or below, they are as valid as a club and have as passionate supporters as we do.....sorry it's in my nature and anyone is welcome to argue with me as long as they like - I can't change my nature very much at 48 years old. This. And just to throw another log in the fire, I still do not think that we will get promoted this season. However, I think we will do ok and I'm just going to enjoy the season for what it is. Low expectations to some perhaps, realistic expectations to others - but they are mine. Been supporting since circa 1968 ish...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 27 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 27 August, 2010 How do you stop a dog humping your leg? Pick it up and suck it's c*ck. tbf...that is exactly what this thread needed, thanks Deppo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 28 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 28 August, 2010 I'm sorry but I just don't think saying Rochdale are some inferior football club to us is fair on that club. Their supporters who has seen nothing but abject cellar-dweller since before I was born - 1962 - celebrated promotion last season and I bet they enjoyed every single kick of the ball win, draw or lose and then some of our fans come on here and belittle them and say they are insignificant. It is exactly the sort of stuff I have always heard from my Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea and other 'top' side supporting mates about Saints - therefore I for one will never, ever join that band wagon. Believe or not I actually want Southampton to win every game and be top of the ****y Premiership but it aint' gonna happen real soon and I don't think because we were a top league side for 29 years or so that all of sudden we now have right to be there. I will never belittle any club in our division, or any above us or below, they are as valid as a club and have as passionate supporters as we do.....sorry it's in my nature and anyone is welcome to argue with me as long as they like - I can't change my nature very much at 48 years old. Ain't interested in being fair to Rochdale...do you think they give a rat's ass about us seriously. To them we are a big club based on the FACT compared to them we are. They have not had an average gate of over thirty five hundred in recent years. There were more Saints fans paying to watch us play pompee and Carlisle games last season than saw them all year!! Check out their ground http://www.footballgroundguide.com/rochdale/ quaint and 'Dell'ish come to mind, however our place was never, yet alone normally 75% empty. They must be congratulated for their ultimate accolade of finally getting out of the bottom tier. The cold hard truths still remain, we are about 800% better supported, several thousand % wealthier, have a vastly superior potential, future and history and a way better squad-club and facilities. We should never have enough excuses to be below them...it is shocking. No 'belittling' going on here my friend, just cold, hard truth. They are a small club and we're a lot bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 28 August, 2010 Share Posted 28 August, 2010 I've no more to say. You have your opinion I have mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop&Scoop Posted 28 August, 2010 Share Posted 28 August, 2010 I find that going with the expectation of losing each game that you are happy with anything but a loss. Worked well when we were in the prem and seems to have continued to work well in the lower divs. Have a beer and enjoy supporting your team win, lose or draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 28 August, 2010 Share Posted 28 August, 2010 I'm sorry but I just don't think saying Rochdale are some inferior football club to us is fair on that club. Their supporters who has seen nothing but abject cellar-dweller since before I was born - 1962 - celebrated promotion last season and I bet they enjoyed every single kick of the ball win, draw or lose and then some of our fans come on here and belittle them and say they are insignificant. It is exactly the sort of stuff I have always heard from my Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea and other 'top' side supporting mates about Saints - therefore I for one will never, ever join that band wagon. Believe or not I actually want Southampton to win every game and be top of the ****y Premiership but it aint' gonna happen real soon and I don't think because we were a top league side for 29 years or so that all of sudden we now have right to be there. I will never belittle any club in our division, or any above us or below, they are as valid as a club and have as passionate supporters as we do.....sorry it's in my nature and anyone is welcome to argue with me as long as they like - I can't change my nature very much at 48 years old. Nutshell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 28 August, 2010 Share Posted 28 August, 2010 We are not and have never been a "big club." We are currently a third tier club with Premiership aspirations. Even at our peak in the 80's we were not a "big club." How other clubs perceive us who knows (and to be honest, who cares). It is all very well getting impatient with getting out of League 1 but it took a "big club" (and they are more than us) in Leeds a while to get out too. There is no magic wand, just hard work and an element of luck. If we make it this year, fantastic, if we don't we are just yet another club with aspirations who have not been successful in acheiving them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 August, 2010 Share Posted 28 August, 2010 nothing to be impatient about really, the only thing missing is a higher success rate from our front 4 because that's where our only problem lies just now,Puncheon,Lallana,Barnard,Lambert these are the goalscorers and attacking midfielders, they've been getting a whole shedload of chances and not putting many away.All the rest is satisfactory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 28 August, 2010 Share Posted 28 August, 2010 I still feel his job is to get us out of this division and if he does that we cant complain, so will see where we are at Christmas... Have a feeling, very soon all those chances are going to be taken and we will give someone a spanking... could it be this wekend? Oh well... always teh bloody same... you have this weird feeling and you never get to the betting shop in time....! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 August, 2010 Share Posted 28 August, 2010 We are not and have never been a "big club." We are currently a third tier club with Premiership aspirations. Even at our peak in the 80's we were not a "big club." How other clubs perceive us who knows (and to be honest, who cares). It is all very well getting impatient with getting out of League 1 but it took a "big club" (and they are more than us) in Leeds a while to get out too. There is no magic wand, just hard work and an element of luck. If we make it this year, fantastic, if we don't we are just yet another club with aspirations who have not been successful in acheiving them. like it or not..we are a huge club in this league....more so with the finances amd set up we have..which I doubt any club in years (if ever) have ever had at the third level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 28 August, 2010 Share Posted 28 August, 2010 like it or not..we are a huge club in this league....more so with the finances amd set up we have..which I doubt any club in years (if ever) have ever had at the third level Huge, medium or small, we still have to win a lot of football matches just like the other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 August, 2010 Share Posted 28 August, 2010 Huge, medium or small, we still have to win a lot of football matches just like the other clubs. yes...but we have far more advantages than any other club in this division..and many in the league above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wessex saint Posted 28 August, 2010 Share Posted 28 August, 2010 Well it's not bloody good enough!! 6 points off the top already!! ok a game in hand but I ask you. Just because we've just signed someone good enough to play in the top league in Italy, I'm not happy. Surely with all our money we should have signed Kaka by now. Honestly... if we dare to drop another point then AP should be sacked along with Cortese for giving him the rope. That would than make room for my dream ticket of Branfoot and Jones... I call them my dream BJ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 28 August, 2010 Share Posted 28 August, 2010 Ain't interested in being fair to Rochdale...do you think they give a rat's ass about us seriously. To them we are a big club based on the FACT compared to them we are. They have not had an average gate of over thirty five hundred in recent years. There were more Saints fans paying to watch us play pompee and Carlisle games last season than saw them all year!! Check out their ground http://www.footballgroundguide.com/rochdale/ quaint and 'Dell'ish come to mind, however our place was never, yet alone normally 75% empty. They must be congratulated for their ultimate accolade of finally getting out of the bottom tier. The cold hard truths still remain, we are about 800% better supported, several thousand % wealthier, have a vastly superior potential, future and history and a way better squad-club and facilities. We should never have enough excuses to be below them...it is shocking. No 'belittling' going on here my friend, just cold, hard truth. They are a small club and we're a lot bigger. I don't think that his point is really about who is the bigger club - it's more to do with deserving. You can point to the old days all you like, wallow in the glory years of 'little club done good', bu at some point you are going to have to face reality - we are not longer mixing it with the big boys. We are where we are on merit. Wake up, smell the coffee, wack off the rose tints and get with the program - we get promoted when we deserve it, when we earn it - not because 30 years ago we used to scare the shyte out of some of the top boys every now and again. If you don't like what's currently happening at the club I suggest you leave it to those fans who understand that getting the hell out of League 1 is going to be a hard task and not some sort of foregone formality - perhaps one of them would be kind enough to give you a call once we have our rightful place back in the Premiership, and you can start to support again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 28 August, 2010 Share Posted 28 August, 2010 Sorry Guys did we lose today or was todays commentary a spoof for would i lie to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 28 August, 2010 Share Posted 28 August, 2010 Sorry Guys did we lose today or was todays commentary a spoof for would i lie to you? That's the trouble with L1. Bandwagons don't come along as often as some would like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 28 August, 2010 Share Posted 28 August, 2010 yes...but we have far more advantages than any other club in this division..and many in the league above Chelsea have had a huge advantage and were supposed to be Kings of Europe by now. Unfortunately you have to earn it, you can't buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 29 August, 2010 Share Posted 29 August, 2010 Patience is a virtue ...for the knockers on this forum best learnt by watching us demolish Rovers (as those of us who went did yesterday) rather than by sitting at our computer screens attacking the club / AP / NC and anyone else who sounds vaguely positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 29 August, 2010 Share Posted 29 August, 2010 It is indeed, and if you run out after 2 league games perhaps you have some issues! If we win our game in hand we are right up in the play off spots after 4 games yet how much time and effort has been spent on the woe is me the season is all over already threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailOB Posted 29 August, 2010 Share Posted 29 August, 2010 Its only a select view though. Its either posters who seem to prefer to be negative or posters who just don't like the manager. I was unable to see the game yesterday but the result did not come as a surprise. There was no way that a team that had created as many chances as Saints in their first two league games were going to struggle and we were going to batter someone very soon. Its good to hear that not only did we score the goals but we also maintained this run of creating chances. Thats why i laid off posting on the threads for a couple of days because discussion was going nowhere. A lot of posters are either glass half full or glass half empty - very little balance on here at times. For now, those who said Saints were creative and that it wasn't time for panic were right BUT the glass half empty posters will just be waiting for next poor result to happen so they can come on here and start the negativity all over again ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 August, 2010 Share Posted 29 August, 2010 I think this is a strange thread by the normally very positive Tim! Didnt I have a conversation with you Tim before the club was sold talking about positivity? I was underwhelmed by our start but to run out of patience after 2 games is a bit strong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 29 August, 2010 Share Posted 29 August, 2010 This is a marathon not a sprint. The papers didn't used to print league tables until 6 games had been played because that is when a more reasonable picture starts to emerge. Those teams out in front in the first couple of weeks can and often do fall away. The trouble here is that the season hinges on the last game, every game. It is one thing to talk about the game just played, another to write of a player, manager, whatever because of a couple of less than great results. There are some that don't like Pardew and will take every dropped point as another nail in his coffin and those people are going to take the joy out of the season for many. There is one poster who is already sharpening his knife for the next home game. We need to move past this blame game and stop heaping piles of negativity on all and sundry whenever there is a minor setback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 29 August, 2010 Share Posted 29 August, 2010 I think too many people read too many things into very few comments. From a personal point of view, it is perfectly understandable to lose patience with a club which is building itself up as the Chelsea/ManU/Arsenal of League One. I am 100% in support of Cortese/Pardew and the Lads. But I reserve the right to be cheesed off, as well. The League One season consists of 46 games. Not 44, and the first 2 don't matter really. 46, and the first game matters every bit as much as the last. I bet AP didn't say... Never mind lads. We've dropped 5 points from our first 2 home games this season. We'll make them up. He wants to win every single game. The Bristol Rovers result just shows the level the team is perfectly capable of playing at. More of the same please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 August, 2010 Share Posted 29 August, 2010 nor did he say players are not good enough we have sat on our hands in transfer window I have no plan B we didn't win the "must win" game Puncheon is rubbish we have lost the scoring touch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 29 August, 2010 Share Posted 29 August, 2010 This is a marathon not a sprint. The papers didn't used to print league tables until 6 games had been played because that is when a more reasonable picture starts to emerge. Those teams out in front in the first couple of weeks can and often do fall away. The trouble here is that the season hinges on the last game, every game. It is one thing to talk about the game just played, another to write of a player, manager, whatever because of a couple of less than great results. There are some that don't like Pardew and will take every dropped point as another nail in his coffin and those people are going to take the joy out of the season for many. There is one poster who is already sharpening his knife for the next home game. We need to move past this blame game and stop heaping piles of negativity on all and sundry whenever there is a minor setback. Well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 29 August, 2010 Share Posted 29 August, 2010 This is a marathon not a sprint. The papers didn't used to print league tables until 6 games had been played because that is when a more reasonable picture starts to emerge. Those teams out in front in the first couple of weeks can and often do fall away. The trouble here is that the season hinges on the last game, every game. It is one thing to talk about the game just played, another to write of a player, manager, whatever because of a couple of less than great results. There are some that don't like Pardew and will take every dropped point as another nail in his coffin and those people are going to take the joy out of the season for many. There is one poster who is already sharpening his knife for the next home game. We need to move past this blame game and stop heaping piles of negativity on all and sundry whenever there is a minor setback. You're obsessed and twisted. You are damn right I pointed out the home form issue, since 50% of our games are played there. Tonking Rovers is Ok and a pleasing exercise all round, but its up to the manager and team to demonstrate it is not an isolated incident. All the "We're going up" comments have started on here overnight. There is still a huge amount of work to be done, including the manager and the team learning to handle the expectation and pressure, and b*tching about me isnt going to change the fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 29 August, 2010 Share Posted 29 August, 2010 No need for personal insults Alpy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 29 August, 2010 Share Posted 29 August, 2010 No need for personal insults Alpy. Oh, right. I get it, this is another of your systematic wind-ups. Overplayed your hand again, I am afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 29 August, 2010 Share Posted 29 August, 2010 How dare you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 29 August, 2010 Share Posted 29 August, 2010 The "we're going up" comments have been going on all summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 29 August, 2010 Share Posted 29 August, 2010 The "we're going up" comments have been going on all summer. I know, but they were muted after the Orient game. It was no longer "we're going up" but "we're creating enough chances to win and go up". A distinct difference. Now its back to full-on jingoism on here and abuse of anyone with a history of saying different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 29 August, 2010 Share Posted 29 August, 2010 The difference is... expectation level. Last season we expected something. Maybe midtable, maybe scraping promotion. It got bloody exciting for a while, but we got more or less what we expected. Just missing out on promotion by coming up short on the playoffs was the consensus opinion, I felt. The slow start and, most certainly, the -10 points did for us. This season is ALL about expectation. We're not obliged to give anyone a 10 point headstart, and we shouldn't offer the leaders another potential 20, like last season. Cortese expects, Pardew expects, the Players expect, and Southampton fans should be expecting the highest standards in League One, from the team, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 29 August, 2010 Share Posted 29 August, 2010 The difference is... expectation level. Last season we expected something. Maybe midtable, maybe scraping promotion. It got bloody exciting for a while, but we got more or less what we expected. Just missing out on promotion by coming up short on the playoffs was the consensus opinion, I felt. The slow start and, most certainly, the -10 points did for us. This season is ALL about expectation. We're not obliged to give anyone a 10 point headstart, and we shouldn't offer the leaders another potential 20, like last season. Cortese expects, Pardew expects, the Players expect, and Southampton fans should be expecting the highest standards in League One, from the team, as well. Sums it up nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 29 August, 2010 Share Posted 29 August, 2010 The difference is... expectation level. Last season we expected something. Maybe midtable, maybe scraping promotion. It got bloody exciting for a while, but we got more or less what we expected. Just missing out on promotion by coming up short on the playoffs was the consensus opinion, I felt. The slow start and, most certainly, the -10 points did for us. This season is ALL about expectation. We're not obliged to give anyone a 10 point headstart, and we shouldn't offer the leaders another potential 20, like last season. Cortese expects, Pardew expects, the Players expect, and Southampton fans should be expecting the highest standards in League One, from the team, as well. Well I am not expecting to gain Promotion I am hoping that we do but if we dont I wont be upset. The squad is good and should do well but injuries refereeing decisions need to be in our favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 29 August, 2010 Share Posted 29 August, 2010 I know, but they were muted after the Orient game. It was no longer "we're going up" but "we're creating enough chances to win and go up". A distinct difference. Now its back to full-on jingoism on here and abuse of anyone with a history of saying different. To be fair, whilst some people may be overly ecstatic about the result yesterday, I think you'll find that there are still a fair few people who don't think we're the finished article. I for one have tried to remain patient and am delighted with the comprehensive nature of the win yesterday, but all we can hope for now is that it allows us to build some momentum. You're entitled to your opinion and some of what you say is fair enough, but let's not try and tar everyone with the same brush eh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 August, 2010 Share Posted 29 August, 2010 This is a marathon not a sprint. The papers didn't used to print league tables until 6 games had been played because that is when a more reasonable picture starts to emerge. Those teams out in front in the first couple of weeks can and often do fall away. The trouble here is that the season hinges on the last game, every game. It is one thing to talk about the game just played, another to write of a player, manager, whatever because of a couple of less than great results. There are some that don't like Pardew and will take every dropped point as another nail in his coffin and those people are going to take the joy out of the season for many. There is one poster who is already sharpening his knife for the next home game. We need to move past this blame game and stop heaping piles of negativity on all and sundry whenever there is a minor setback. agree. This may not be the highest point of my time supporting saints but is one of the most optimistic. It is a shame some are so keen and trying to seek negativity even when the evidence suggests otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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