Block 5 Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Looks like some off camera flash and then merged/blended 2 outputs from the RAW file for a HDR effect. IMHO. Zzzzzzzz........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 No, we have first option to buy. Tempted to put you in my blog but it's getting a bit full of you on there. As Hypo says, we have first option on this, which will obviously be taken up if he is decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyb1 Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 You let yourself down by generally being a little bit thick. The article clearly says we have 1st option to buy him in January. If we signed him outright now, and he turned out to be awful, you'd be the first moaning that our scouts aren't up to it and what a waste of money. The loan gives us the best of both worlds, if he turns out to be a success we can sign him in January, if he turns out not to be, then we can let him go back with no real damage done. It's a no brainer and a great deal for Saints. I really wish that people on my ignore list would be invisible in peoples replies. My only option to cut Alpine the idiot out of my life completely is to ask you anyone replying to one of his idiotic posts, please please don't quote his original. What a bloody moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Both open in separate tabs Always interesting to get fans of other clubs opinions on new signings. got a link for this forum i wouldnt mind checking it myself ? sounds a great signing by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Fantastic - that's as good as its going to get while we're League 3. Can't believe we can steal a march on Roma. Alpine go boil your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Fantastic - that's as good as its going to get while we're League 3. Can't believe we can steal a march on Roma. Alpine go boil your head. I very VERY much doubt that is the case. Seems like a good signing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 What signing (or type of signing) would have you "overwhelmed" given our pitiful league status? Not even the triple signing of Gerrard, Defoe & John Terry this week to Saints would bring a smile to the miserable git's face . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 "Is that him? Could I be right? Could that be......... Kid Dy-no-mite?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Excellent news. I hope he turns out to be tremendous. Even better that we have signed him on a loan deal with a view to a permenant move. That is exactly what you want - zero risk transfer, lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Im guessing here... but im sure AP / NC would have learnt a lesson from the Antonio saga and made sure (if he's good enough) he doesnt walk away in Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 I'm pleased with this signing but just hope that he is better than the previous South Americans we signed. Think I will wait until I see him play before I wet myself with excitement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Don't know if anyone else uses this but if the 1mil rumoured deal is true then according to this website we got a good deal if we buy him, a player on the price rise they reckon 2mil euro's is his value - http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/guilherme-raymundo-do-prado/leistungsdaten-detail/spieler_22801.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Sounds promising but could go either way imo. oo-er Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blandford saint Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Exciting stuff - hopefully he will shut a few idiots up. I sit next to someone with the positive outlook of Alpine (please pity me) who can only see good things in the opposition, so perhaps a new signing will give me a bit of respite from the whingeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 I'm pleased with this signing but just hope that he is better than the previous South Americans we signed.On that note, does anyone know when his birthday is so we can give him some special treatment on the day.......this will prevent him returning to his native country in a sulk for a couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 On that note, does anyone know when his birthday is so we can give him some special treatment on the day.......this will prevent him returning to his native country in a sulk for a couple of weeks. With agent/s + translators+ best friend+parents! Oh, those were the 'happy' days under Rupert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 more to the point, have we bothered with a medical this time round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 got a link for this forum i wouldnt mind checking it myself ? sounds a great signing by the way http://www.footballforums.net/forums/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Well done AP and NC. Hope he turns out to be mustard but very low risk if not. Amazing that you could actually pull this off, given the countless doom merchants on here convinced that they knew otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 http://www.footballforums.net/forums/[/QUO cheers my man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 They're gone! They're the past! Let them go! Get over it and move on. + 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Excellent news. I hope he turns out to be tremendous. Even better that we have signed him on a loan deal with a view to a permenant move. That is exactly what you want - zero risk transfer, lovely. hmmm id rather that we signed him permanent.didnt we have papa and antonio on these type of deals both ? both done well and neither came back. also the chance that if he is awesome we could get gazumped by bigger clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Despite his credentials, I am underwhelmed. Presumably you were expecting Kaka, with Real's midfield getting a bit congested and all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_disco123 Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 to be honest I would rather he would not play againts bolton as might distory him and "woop" out for 4 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Good signing by the looks of it, although i'm inclined to wait and see how he does in his first few games. Sounds like just what we need though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 hmmm id rather that we signed him permanent.didnt we have papa and antonio on these type of deals both ? both done well and neither came back. also the chance that if he is awesome we could get gazumped by bigger clubsWhat if he turned out to be pants? It has to be the better way of doing it when you are bringing in players that have zero experience of English football - especially at our pitiful level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 hmmm id rather that we signed him permanent.didnt we have papa and antonio on these type of deals both ? both done well and neither came back. also the chance that if he is awesome we could get gazumped by bigger clubs No there isn't, because we have the option to buy him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbenny Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Let's hope he doesn't get to those lovely, bracing November & December crisp (ie; sub zero) mornings over there on the training ground at Staplewood and think: "Brrrrrr - what the f@*k have I done???" Sounds a very good signing tbh. I do so love a Brazilian. Do you know how cold it get's in Italy during th winter months??? Weather will not be a problem.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Looks like the makings of a good signing. Wonder what he'll be like on a cold tuesday evening in Wycombe, as lets face it thats where we struggle! Pretty happy with what he sounds like though. Good sense that we have option to buy first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom8558 Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Brilliant signing but I have a feeling that if we aren't in the promotion area by the time the January transfer windows opens then I don't think he will sign for us permanently. Only time will tell though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Are you unable to read? The article clearly says he is on loan until the January window, when we have the option of securing him on a permanent basis. How on earth is that in any way a bad deal for the club? Because it means we are not sure he is the player to kick start our season and do the business for us. I would have expected AP to have more confidence about his signings than that, seeing as he has pondered them all summer long.. By January we might too far adrift again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 You really will moan about anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 hmmm id rather that we signed him permanent.didnt we have papa and antonio on these type of deals both ? both done well and neither came back. also the chance that if he is awesome we could get gazumped by bigger clubs Pardew didn't want Papa back, and Papa didn't want to come back. Pardew didn't rate him that's why he never played him and went out and bought Barnard, Papa was not impressed by not being played so wouldn't come back to sit on the bench again. Antonio was a loan with no fixed agreement to sign. Guly's deal differs in that there is obviously a deal to sign should it work out. If the deal is done right then there will be no `gazzumping' opportunity. A similar deal was done by the Skates when they loaned in Yakubu. Having impressed in the championship there was loads of interest, but they already had the price set in stone and no one could gazump them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Only shock is that it took you 77 posts to say it. So, to conclude: Sign no-one - Alps wants to sign anyone Sign someone - we still need more Loan someone - he'll leave and it's underwhelming anyway Sign someone you've heard of - he isn't good enough Sign someone you haven't heard of - never heard of him, probably rubbish A loan with first option to buy negates risk. How is that possibly a bad thing? If he's ****, he leaves, if he's good we sign him. It's a signing, in a vital area, with some reason to believe he may have quality. How is that not a positive? I am glad he has signed someone, but although this is a low-risk strategy to the club, it is a HIGH RISK strategy to our promotion campaign this season, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 So we should never take a risk on a player? As we did with Waigo, Antonio? We didn't know how any of our signings would work out, no-one does. Ahhh what's the point. Don't bother adrian, he always has to have something to moan about. He's a WUM it's pretty clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Because it means we are not sure he is the player to kick start our season and do the business for us. I would have expected AP to have more confidence about his signings than that, seeing as he has pondered them all summer long.. By January we might too far adrift again. Every signing is done with the best intentions, but not many work out how you want them to. He could get home sick or anything. Pardew will have confidence, but who knows how he will settle in. As for being too far adrift, doesn't a signing help try to prevent that? Not sure what your point is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Oh look at that. We've signed a player who could have been playing in Serie A this season. A player of high quality from the video clip, with pace power and height to play in CM. A steal of a deal accoring to all on here. Now if only AP and the club had told us that they were taking time, being careful and looking for the RIGHT player to help complete the jigsaw of the team. Oh that's right, they did din't they. Patient fans who read, listen and trust our new structure 1 - Moaners 0 Hate to pour cold water on your pre-conceived approach that everything the management do is fantastic - err, no I don't, I'm happy to do it..... His club have off-loaded him on being promoted to Serie A, so he's not a Serie A player. There were rumours that Lazio and Roma were interested earlier in the summer but either they were just rumours or they decided against him. A 4min video clip can make any player look good, even Delgado and the club aren't sure they have got the right player, which is why he's on a 5 months loan before they decide whether to offer him a permanent deal or not. The idea that no other player could have been brought into this role at any time in the past 4 months and that Guly is uniquely right is plainly stupid. I doubt if there is anyone on here who doesn't want Guly to prove to be a great signing. He fits the bill for a stronger midfield presence and MF attack so now we have to see if he performs as well as we all hope. Better to praise him after you've seen him play, rather than wet yourself over a player none of us know, but it does show intention and commitment by Cortese and Pardew, for which they deserve the credit. Good for them for taking the risk and for the loan arrangment as insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Hate to pour cold water on your pre-conceived approach that everything the management do is fantastic - err, no I don't, I'm happy to do it..... His club have off-loaded him on being promoted to Serie A, so he's not a Serie A player. There were rumours that Lazio and Roma were interested earlier in the summer but either they were just rumours or they decided against him. A 4min video clip can make any player look good, even Delgado and the club aren't sure they have got the right player, which is why he's on a 5 months loan before they decide whether to offer him a permanent deal or not. The idea that no other player could have been brought into this role at any time in the past 4 months and that Guly is uniquely right is plainly stupid. I doubt if there is anyone on here who doesn't want Guly to prove to be a great signing. He fits the bill for a stronger midfield presence and MF attack so now we have to see if he performs as well as we all hope. Better to praise him after you've seen him play, rather than wet yourself over a player none of us know, but it does show intention and commitment by Cortese and Pardew, for which they deserve the credit. Good for them for taking the risk and for the loan arrangment as insurance. Funny you mention him, I thought "Delgado" after reading the report too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Pardew could be extremely confident that this will work out, but you can never be 100 percent certain. If you have the chance to do a deal like this then I would always do it. It means that even if there is a slim possibility that he is sh1te or that he gets a bad injury then we can send him back no strings attached. Anyone who moans about that is a troll and just looking to get people's backs up IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Don't bother adrian, he always has to have something to moan about. He's a WUM it's pretty clear. Nope, just not a gushing happy-clapper. This signing feels wrong. Happy to be proven wrong, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Have we ever had a Brazilian player before? Hopefully he'll bring the "chaos" factor that Papa Waigo was meant to bring last season. Looks like a good signing though. Now for a pacey striker, a centre back and possibly a nice versatile player who could cover 2 or 3 positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Funny you mention him, I thought "Delgado" after reading the report too. Which clearly shows why we have structured the deal how we have! Imagine if we had structured the Delgado deal in the same way, it would have saved us an awful lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Nope, just not a gushing happy-clapper. This signing feels wrong. Happy to be proven wrong, of course. WTF are you on about? It feels wrong? FEELS? What is the point in discussing something with you if you are basing your opinion on feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Also, would you seriously describe me as a gushing happy clapper? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 He hasnt stepped out on to the field yet, so lets see how it unfolds. Not going to put "Goolie" on my shirt though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 He hasnt stepped out on to the field yet, so lets see how it unfolds. Not going to put "Goolie" on my shirt though. Well obviously. I just fail to see how you can have something negative to say about this signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Also, would you seriously describe me as a gushing happy clapper? Really? Nope, just a WUM who changes his direction whenever an opportunity to get a rise out of someone, and therefore some attention, presents itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 Haven't read about the actual player, but i've been nosing around the Cesena web-sites, and when you consider that their crowds are half of ours, it makes more sense that he should come here. The highest crowd I saw on their reports was 12k, but generally a lot less. We got 17k for an early round paint pot game the other day, which puts our relative financial position into perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 WTF are you on about? It feels wrong? FEELS? What is the point in discussing something with you if you are basing your opinion on feelings. WTF are you on about, Spock ? The whole concept of debate is to discuss opinion, and feeling and emotion play a role in forming an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sad saints fan Posted 23 August, 2010 Share Posted 23 August, 2010 In his interview on Solent AP said that we are hoping to get another player in before Saturday Antonio? or a back up for RL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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