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Amesbury Saint

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I think you will find he had every right.

 

Only the people with something to hide would have been worried

 

I dont think he has every right and his actions were bordering on incitement.

I thought it was disgraceful policing and considering writing a letter of complaint to Hampshire Police + using Freedom of Information Act to obtian a copy of the guidelines they are operating under.

Interesting last paragraph in this article.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/jul/12/humanrights.ukcrime

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charliegeorgesflymo

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Got to say I took my small daughter to the Northam end for the first time - not worried about the bad language - nothing she wouldn't hear in the playground however the behaviour of a older bloke and his tribe of yoof followers was disappointing - around row AA and BB 1125 - he spent more time trying to eyeball the police, swearing at the orient fans and with his back to the game - more distracting than the copper with the cam - he seemed happy to impress three 14 year olds than actually watch the match.f**kwit.

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Dave Benson Phillips

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the northam contains a cross sections of utter neanderthals acting as such......no wonder the police will film them

 

feel sorry for the normal fan there who wants to be part of the singing etc

 

Oh look, it's god speaking again.

 

Although I wouldn't call people neanderthals ( anyone who uses that phrase is a complete and utter **** in my opinion ) , I do agree that there are some spazzers in the Northam, lots of them.

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s0108787

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Hopefullly the tory cuts will mean the "animals" on the social will not be able to use taxpayers money to attend games.

 

Please note i realise that some genuine and decent people have fallen upon hard times through no fault of their own, however these idiots clearly could not hold down a proper job and must get their money for the matches by other means.

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Dave Benson Phillips

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Hopefullly the tory cuts will mean the "animals" on the social will not be able to use taxpayers money to attend games.

 

Please note i realise that some genuine and decent people have fallen upon hard times through no fault of their own, however these idiots clearly could not hold down a proper job and must get their money for the matches by other means.

 

Wow

 

Hello Snob.

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s0108787

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Wow

 

Hello Snob.

 

Moeny given to people in need, from the taxpayer, should be to feed, clothe and put a roof over the heads of genuine people who need assistance, not be wasted on going to the football by idiots who constantly try and cause trouble bringing nothing to society and acting like ****s. Who have probably never had a job and don't intend to.

 

Perhaps you can tell me why we should hope that the government cuts make a policeman redundant? Someone who has probably worked had to provide for their family and better themselves. The animosity towards the police astounds me as they are just normal people do their job. One day these animals might be grateful of assistance from the police as they are there to serve the public.

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Thorpe-le-Saint

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But in the UK are we not innocent until proven guilty?!? You realise that the police keep these videos and there is nothing we can do to have them destroyed! We should not have to accept being 'suspects' in a crime that has not even been committed; it's the same reason why I am against the DNA database: those who use the old 'well, if you have done nothing wrong...' argument are complete tards as it is not the point. We should not be treated like criminals if we have done nothing wrong in the first place!

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aintforever

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Moeny given to people in need, from the taxpayer, should be to feed, clothe and put a roof over the heads of genuine people who need assistance, not be wasted on going to the football by idiots who constantly try and cause trouble bringing nothing to society and acting like ****s. Who have probably never had a job and don't intend to.

 

Perhaps you can tell me why we should hope that the government cuts make a policeman redundant? Someone who has probably worked had to provide for their family and better themselves. The animosity towards the police astounds me as they are just normal people do their job. One day these animals might be grateful of assistance from the police as they are there to serve the public.

 

I like the way you assume hooligans are those nasty poor common folk!

 

I hope that copper gets made redundant because he is a waste of my tax money, and I thought it was rude having a camera pointed in my face because some copper thinks because I attend a football game I'm probably a criminal.

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waggy

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the camera in question was probably being used with 'facial recognition' trying to locate whoever the Op was designated for. so if you aint done nothing related to the offence they were looking for it won't keep the image, simples.

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Andy_Porter

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It's bang out of order, as is the majority of policing at football games.

 

I don't like being treated like a criminal just because i'm a 20-something lad who enjoys watching football, it's ridiculous. Some of the policing at our away games last season was a discgrace as was the numpty with the camera yesterday.

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rallyboy

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it clearly overstepped the guidelines for filming, or it was the worst bit of policing since they released Pompey fans into the car park at the final whistle.

 

If it was part of a serious operation it could have been done less obviously and more professionally, from the gantry with proper kit - but sweeping handheld wobbly pans by a man dressed as the Kommander of a Panzer are of little use unless they record crime as it occurs - as I saw no arrests I presume it was just an idiot with a camera looking for other idiots.

 

His attitude suggested it was a deliberate act to intimidate the customers of Southampton FC.

A senior officer made a very poor decision, or an officer on the ground chose to attempt inciting a riot.

 

Either way the action was of no use in reducing crime or catching offenders, and the taxpayer financed it, thus whacking another wedge between fans and police.

 

Hopefully Mr Marshall will review policy and send PC Spielberg back to doing prom night dvd's for friends.

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Thripp87

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I agree with exactly what you say, every football fan is suspected as being a potential menace. Some of the stewards are just as bad, utter jobsworths. One stopped someone from hopping over the divide between the northam an kingsland after the game because there exit was flowing quicker. Such actions really are beginning to **** me off at sms. I think we have the only stewards in the country that are worse to our fans than the away ones.

 

About this muppet with the camera I asked him after the game, (he was near st marys street corner) why he was filiming? He said to identify potential trouble makers as saints have started to cause more trouble away from home. i asked him about surely the fact every seat in the ground being under surveillance covers this anyway, and also the fact his actions antagonised a previously calm situation and all he did was stutter and offer no comment.

 

It was the same with the burnley game, they bring out the dogs....then we all go on....and rightly so.

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RedAndWhite91

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why?

 

Trying to single out potential trouble makers isn't wrong, that's fair enough I guess, if you use intelligence and decent means.

 

I meant the whole way the police handled it was wrong. No one had done any wrong that afternoon, yet they still rolled out the cameraman-copper to film us as if we were all criminals.

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Carlos Fandango

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The police clearly want to show the fans that they are monitoring them. The CCTV in the stadium would provide the police with much better pictures for their "intelligence" but I guess that they want to try and put the wind up a few supporters. Just goes to show how completely clueless the police are at SMS as was demonstrated by their policing of the pompey game.

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Dave Benson Phillips

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Moeny given to people in need, from the taxpayer, should be to feed, clothe and put a roof over the heads of genuine people who need assistance, not be wasted on going to the football by idiots who constantly try and cause trouble bringing nothing to society and acting like ****s. Who have probably never had a job and don't intend to.

 

Perhaps you can tell me why we should hope that the government cuts make a policeman redundant? Someone who has probably worked had to provide for their family and better themselves. The animosity towards the police astounds me as they are just normal people do their job. One day these animals might be grateful of assistance from the police as they are there to serve the public.

 

Erm, it is you labeling football hooligans / thugs / casuals / whatever you want to call the, as unemployed benefit claimers.

 

It is a well known fact that the majority of people whom get involved in disorder at football are from a working, professional background and see football as their 'release' from their normal lives.

 

Or are you telling me you surveyed everyone in the ground and asked them all if they had a job?

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Moeny given to people in need, from the taxpayer, should be to feed, clothe and put a roof over the heads of genuine people who need assistance, not be wasted on going to the football by idiots who constantly try and cause trouble bringing nothing to society and acting like ****s. Who have probably never had a job and don't intend to.

 

Perhaps you can tell me why we should hope that the government cuts make a policeman redundant? Someone who has probably worked had to provide for their family and better themselves. The animosity towards the police astounds me as they are just normal people do their job. One day these animals might be grateful of assistance from the police as they are there to serve the public.

 

What a completely idiotic, snobby, ignorant comment that is.

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Um Bongo

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if they were looking for anybody likely to be involved in any trouble,surely they were filming the wrong people? doubt anyone involved in FV is going to be jumping up & down, shouting there head off in the Northam. would have thought they'd be trying to avoid being in the spotlight?

 

You'd be surprised how thick some of the morons can be.

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RedAndWhite91

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Erm, it is you labeling football hooligans / thugs / casuals / whatever you want to call the, as unemployed benefit claimers.

 

What a snobby post from that s0108787. All the casuals I know are in education or have jobs, fact. I'm not condoning football violence in any way, but I won't have people I know, and friends, stereotyped by some ignorant snob like that.

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Norm

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Oh look, it's god speaking again.

 

Although I wouldn't call people neanderthals ( anyone who uses that phrase is a complete and utter **** in my opinion ) , I do agree that there are some spazzers in the Northam, lots of them.

 

 

 

So, you don't like it when someone uses the phrase 'neanderthal' and yet you use that disgusting (it is to me) dreadful word 'spastic' when refering to people! Shame, I normally find your posts worthy of reading. Poor choice of word, Stu.

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SFC Forever

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I am ashamed of some idiots, who wearing our colours go out looking for trouble. The police caused major controversy when they policed a couple of our games last season but are seemingly untouchable.

The tw*t with the camera was a totally frivolous waste of our money in my book.

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to be fair there were some proper animals ar rge game today in block 43 of the northam. Made me cringe to be a football fan, not the most cerebral bunch for sure and frankly a disgrace when you consider the recent events around the club. In row U block 43 around seat 1108 some proper "hard case" was giving it the most foul mouthed tirade i think i've ever heard anywhere and his pikey chav gorilla girlfriend was loving it. No wonder the police were filmimng with ****s like that around!

 

I'm guessing you were using the "foul mouthed" c-word there?

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Thripp87

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:lol: - what a nobber!

 

bet you would be the first to moan if ure house was being broken into an there was no police around to deal with it.

 

i am not justifying football voilence, simply stating a fact that if they police a situation as badly as they have done on many occasions then what do they expect?

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First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out--

because I was not a communist;

 

Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out--

because I was not a socialist;

 

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out--

because I was not a trade unionist;

 

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--

because I was not a Jew;

 

Then they came for me--

and there was no one left to speak out for me.

 

(Martin Niemoller)

 

The actions of the police on Saturday was nothing less than disgraceful. The crowd was happy, in good spirits and looking forward to the game unfolding. Then some berk of a police officer sticks a camera in our faces. The atmosphere in the Northam - including the Orient lot - and the Kingsland corner turned sour, just like that. If these idiot police have nothing better to do than that then God help us.

 

Unless we, the citizens, of this country stand up to these jack-booted wannabe-nazis we will very soon find no one left to speak out for us. It should be every Englishman's duty to legally, but vocally, confront these thugs where ever they are and never offer them any assistance. It is my firm belief that the police are NOT on our side. They are becoming evermore repressive as the years go by. Time was that they were 'citizens in uniform'. Not any longer; now they are a law unto themselves. Whilst I may help an individual officer if he needed my assistance in a personal matter, I would never, never help the brutish institution. I have nothing but utter contempt for the police force.

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West End Saint

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The copper was well out of order his attitude and manner was incitement in my book he was itching for someone to throw something or step out of line.

 

I am not a yoof I am 42 and was in the Kingsland corner I dont get involved with any trouble and genrally dont have a problem with the Police but I wanted to throw something at him he was well out of order.

 

I am getting fed up with the Football is handled by the police it is very heavey handed and seems to be being singled out

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Sour Mash

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I think Saturday showed once and for all that those charged with the responsibility of policing football games and particularly those currently at Saints games, have little interest in really "protecting" innocent supporters and are far keener at throwing their weight around at any given opportunity, intimidating normal supporters and justifying their vast cost.

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Thorpe-le-Saint

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First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out--

because I was not a communist;

 

Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out--

because I was not a socialist;

 

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out--

because I was not a trade unionist;

 

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--

because I was not a Jew;

 

Then they came for me--

and there was no one left to speak out for me.

 

(Martin Niemoller)

 

The actions of the police on Saturday was nothing less than disgraceful. The crowd was happy, in good spirits and looking forward to the game unfolding. Then some berk of a police officer sticks a camera in our faces. The atmosphere in the Northam - including the Orient lot - and the Kingsland corner turned sour, just like that. If these idiot police have nothing better to do than that then God help us.

 

Unless we, the citizens, of this country stand up to these jack-booted wannabe-nazis we will very soon find no one left to speak out for us. It should be every Englishman's duty to legally, but vocally, confront these thugs where ever they are and never offer them any assistance. It is my firm belief that the police are NOT on our side. They are becoming evermore repressive as the years go by. Time was that they were 'citizens in uniform'. Not any longer; now they are a law unto themselves. Whilst I may help an individual officer if he needed my assistance in a personal matter, I would never, never help the brutish institution. I have nothing but utter contempt for the police force.

 

A very good post, it's about time as a population we (legally) fought back.

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Deppo

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First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out--

because I was not a communist;

 

Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out--

because I was not a socialist;

 

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out--

because I was not a trade unionist;

 

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--

because I was not a Jew;

 

Then they came for me--

and there was no one left to speak out for me.

 

(Martin Niemoller)

 

The actions of the police on Saturday was nothing less than disgraceful. The crowd was happy, in good spirits and looking forward to the game unfolding. Then some berk of a police officer sticks a camera in our faces. The atmosphere in the Northam - including the Orient lot - and the Kingsland corner turned sour, just like that. If these idiot police have nothing better to do than that then God help us.

 

Unless we, the citizens, of this country stand up to these jack-booted wannabe-nazis we will very soon find no one left to speak out for us. It should be every Englishman's duty to legally, but vocally, confront these thugs where ever they are and never offer them any assistance. It is my firm belief that the police are NOT on our side. They are becoming evermore repressive as the years go by. Time was that they were 'citizens in uniform'. Not any longer; now they are a law unto themselves. Whilst I may help an individual officer if he needed my assistance in a personal matter, I would never, never help the brutish institution. I have nothing but utter contempt for the police force.

 

I agree. I understand that Pastor Niemoller actually wrote that poem as an allegory of football fans being filmed at a football match.

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