bigdavewatson Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 ...after Peckhart went off, when was the last time that happened? Serious question. Almost all were English as well - awesome I loved last night, havent truly enjoyed a game like that in I dont know how long.
Saint Martini Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 I was gonna say 11 Englishmen but after doublechecking I find out James is Welsh (although born in Bristol).
OldNick Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 I was gonna say 11 Englishmen but after doublechecking I find out James is Welsh (although born in Bristol).and I think DMG is Irish?
Saint Martini Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 and I think DMG is Irish? Nope, that would be Leon Best.
Ken Tone Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 Surman is from South Africa Born there yes but lived here for many years and qualified to play for England. More English than Zola Budd, Tony Greig or Basil Dolivera ! What is more he lives locally, so not just English but Southampton. The lack of foreign mercenaries is real plus this season. K.
Saint Martini Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 I'm not even British and I care! Good to see teams with players from their own country. I preserves the different styles within the game.
JohnnyFartPants Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 Me, BigDaveWatson and UEFA for three. Me too. It is like watching football from back in the 70's and 80's.
Mr saint Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 Nope, that would be Leon Best. Is he the only one?
Papa Shango Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 I'm not even British and I care! Good to see teams with players from their own country. I preserves the different styles within the game. Personally as long as the team is winning, I couldn't care less where the players are from.
JohnnyFartPants Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 Personally as long as the team is winning, I couldn't care less where the players are from. Right, so basically you are publicly endorsing having a team of players that have been brought up in a Belgium cellar and have a grandfather for a dad? That's sick.
Mr saint Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 Personally as long as the team is winning, I couldn't care less where the players are from. So you would suddenly start caring if we were losing?
OldNick Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 Perry is Brazilianare you sure you didnt get that wrong and should have put he has a Brazillian. (adding quickly I wouldnt know)
bigdavewatson Posted 1 October, 2008 Author Posted 1 October, 2008 yeah but, does anyone know when the last time that happened - 11 Brits. I would hazard a guess, not being one of the historian chaps, that since Golac we have had a non-British player in the team continuously. There is every likelyhood that come Saturday v Cov we will have an all British starting 11.
redorwhitelion Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 I don't recall any foreign players in the team in the late 80s early 90s, when we had the likes of Le Tiss, Rod Wallace, Dodd, Flowers and Ruddock.
OldNick Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 I don't recall any foreign players in the team in the late 80s early 90s, when we had the likes of Le Tiss, Rod Wallace, Dodd, Flowers and Ruddock. Monkou?
OfnPanad Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 I don't recall any foreign players in the team in the late 80s early 90s, when we had the likes of Le Tiss, Rod Wallace, Dodd, Flowers and Ruddock. Jeff Kenna is Irish
Saint Bones Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 I seem to recall us playing Arsenal in the Forgotten league with them fielding a full team of foreigners. I truly belive for the nations best interests in World competetion a select number of players must be from their homeland. All IMO of course
sandwichsaint Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 I seem to recall us playing Arsenal in the Forgotten league with them fielding a full team of foreigners. I truly belive for the nations best interests in World competetion a select number of players must be from their homeland. All IMO of course Chelsea at home on a boxing day at the Dell; Chelsea fielded the first-ever all-foreign starting X1 in an 'English' game. Must have been around 2000? 2001? Score? We lost I'm pretty sure. 2-1 possibly?
Saint Mikey Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 I don't recall any foreign players in the team in the late 80s early 90s, when we had the likes of Le Tiss, Rod Wallace, Dodd, Flowers and Ruddock. Chereidnik and Gotsmanov. OK, neither played much. McLoughlin & Grobbelaar are others I can think of, off the top of my head.
Mowgli Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 Personally as long as the team is winning, I couldn't care less where the players are from. That's not an unusual angle at all. The question is, has this lack of community identity contributed to the sterlisiation of our beloved game (along with Sky money and russian mafia chiefs etc). Personally I started supporting Saints because I had pride (and still have pride) in the City where I grew up. To compete with all the big name foreigners in the Premiership, we need to develop a unique angle which will help us survive. If home grown players cannot get in at Man Utd or Chelsea the hope is that they will see an opportunty to play regular first team football with us and develop their career. Let's face it, unless someone takes that responsibility, where will our England players of the future come from? Ideally I would like to see a good Saints side taken all from local schools but that is not realistic. This is the next best thing.
Fowllyd Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 yeah but, does anyone know when the last time that happened - 11 Brits. I would hazard a guess, not being one of the historian chaps, that since Golac we have had a non-British player in the team continuously. There is every likelyhood that come Saturday v Cov we will have an all British starting 11. The first-choice team in 1983/84, which achieved Saints' best ever league position and an FA Cup semi-final, was not just British but entirely English - Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Agboola, Holmes, Wright, Williams, Armstrong, Wallace, Worthington, Moran. This was after Golac had left, though he did return later on. I don't get too excited about fielding a 100% British team, though it's certainly a novelty these days. What matters to me more than nationality is having a team with a good number of home-developed players - of the team I've named above five were home-grown (six if you count Wright, who was very young when he came here from Oxford).
The Viking Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 The first-choice team in 1983/84, which achieved Saints' best ever league position and an FA Cup semi-final, was not just British but entirely English - Shilton, Mills, Dennis, Agboola, Holmes, Wright, Williams, Armstrong, Wallace, Worthington, Moran. This was after Golac had left, though he did return later on. I don't get too excited about fielding a 100% British team, though it's certainly a novelty these days. What matters to me more than nationality is having a team with a good number of home-developed players - of the team I've named above five were home-grown (six if you count Wright, who was very young when he came here from Oxford). Rueban Agboola the Nigerian international?
Fowllyd Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 Rueban Agboola the Nigerian international? Ah yes - I'd forgotten about that! I'm pretty sure he was as English as he was Nigerian though - like John Fashanu, had a Nigerian parent and could have played for either country. And I have a feeling that he only played for Nigeria after he left Saints. OK, I'm clutching at straws here... Maybe I should just say that this supports my view that players being home-developed, rather than of any particular nationality, is what really matters!
ghq Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 BWP is from Brazil i thought? Could just as well be from Mars.
thelamprey Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 "Almost all were English as well - awesome" Irony
saintstr1 Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 BWP is from Brazil i thought? Isn't it from there all the Nuts come from?
Pip Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 Rueben Agboola was as Nigerian as Andy Townsend was Irish! I actually thought David McGoldrick was from Northern Ireland - but doesn't that make him a Brit technically?
JohnnyFartPants Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 Rueben Agboola was as Nigerian as Andy Townsend was Irish! I actually thought David McGoldrick was from Northern Ireland - but doesn't that make him a Brit technically? I always get confused on that. What is the difference between Britain and the United Kingdom?
South City Si Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 I always get confused on that. What is the difference between Britain and the United Kingdom? United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
krissyboy31 Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 DMcG was born in Nottingham, so he's English. He qualifies for both England and Republic of Ireland (and probably Jamaica) through family but as far as I'm aware hasn't represented any of them.
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 Right, so basically you are publicly endorsing having a team of players that have been brought up in a Belgium cellar and have a grandfather for a dad? That's sick. Wah, do they do produce would-be footballers that way in Belgium as well as Austria?
sperm_john Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 to be honest its brilliant that we have such a british/english squad, im all for that
Oz Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 Chelsea at home on a boxing day at the Dell; Chelsea fielded the first-ever all-foreign starting X1 in an 'English' game. Must have been around 2000? 2001? Score? We lost I'm pretty sure. 2-1 possibly? in fact they had 10 different nationalities the odd one was an italian but born in switzerland!
saintbob40 Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 Could just as well be from Mars. Uranus?:smt045
SNSUN Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 Alan Neilson was a mongrel, that's all I remember...
jawillwill Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 11 Brits on the pitch in red and white after Peckhart went off, when was the last time that happened? Serious question. . Not sure, but I would hazard a guess at 4th of May 2008, just after the final whistle.
St. Mulv Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 Ace fact. Surely this should provide the club with a bit of favourable media coverage, and potentially make us more attractive to a British based takeover.
saintjinksie Posted 1 October, 2008 Posted 1 October, 2008 and I think DMG is Irish? its his ginger hair that gives it away. and as for leon best, he is as irish as clinton morrison.
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