Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Absolutely superb fantastic news. FFS, why are you always so negative. ***Smiley face thingy*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Disagree completely. We all know that Markus is not the kind to brag about putting £x million in trust. I've got no idea why you interpret the statement that way. On a pure commercial level, taking the analysis away from Markus, the man, it would also be folly to declare "we have £50m in trust". It would be just stupid. Let's just take this at face value. Cortese wants to continue. The Liebherr family want to see his vision realised. Between them they have billions of pounds. Even if they don't want to plough money in directly we now have a stable set-up and unencumbered asset base that would be the envy of 90% of clubs. The statement is 100% positive. Thank you again, Markus. Thank you so much. Very good summary. WIFM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 This board is getting pretty tiresome when the only debate going on is between the same old people trying to bring up the same old arguments time and time again. TOTALLY agree. It's why I don't bother (and threads have been dull bar HCDAJFU) and most older posters have departed. Certainly a few I know personally. Hence Saint Bobby's call for a community again. No time like the present. For Markus, For The Club...get a win Saturday and start the ball rolling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian the Red Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Excellent statement by NC - tells all Saints supporters what we needed to know that the club is safe and will continue in its quest to return to the premiership. The comments about funding are all speculation - no one knows, nor are likely to know as the company that owns Saints is privatley owned. Go to companies house and gain the latest accounts, probably not available yet as the company was only formed last year. In any case Markus was a businessman and a very good one, there is no way that he would not have funded or had the funding in place for the club. The company that owns SFC will undoubtedly now belong to the family as indicated by NC. Markus was a one off, he saved SFC and we are all truely sadden by his passing; but we must now get behind NC and the team to play our part in taking the club back to the premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 I think we can all agree it's time for a special 'sarcasm font' to avoid confusion. Still, no reason to think plans/finance have changed. Mayeb the family aren't fans in the same way, but they have motivation to help us succeed and it's hard to get involved without becoming a fan. Markus chose Cortese so I'm sure they'll trust him to keep going full steam ahead. Just hope we can get those signings sorted soon, get a win tomorrow for Markus and really get this season going. Maybe it's now our job, along with the Players to make the family members into fans. Marcus became one very quickly and there is no reason why with SMS rocking we can't convert the rest of the family into our family club fold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Its nice to know the family will be sticking by us. I expect some the family might attend on Saturday but I wonder if any of them will take they lead and be a figure head so to speak? If they will attend future games as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 The statement confirms what I expected, but is nevertheless a comfort to hear. A very good post from Franks Cousin perfectly expresses my thoughts on it all. Whereas NC will feel an obligation to try and fulfil the plan that he and Markus hatched for the club, on the face of it he carries it forward alone and I'm sure that it would make his path easier to know that we are behind him in his endeavours. It may be that some members of the Liebherr family have already begun to have a growing affection for the Club that Markus bought and enjoyed his association with, but it is to be hoped that now that they are more involved since his passing, their love of the club will burgeon. Instead of Markus' club, it is now the family business, so with luck they might have a proprietorial pride that develops. I look forward to seeing some of the family sat in the directors' box this season. I'm sure they will receive a warm welcome from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 I look forward to seeing some of the family sat in the directors' box this season. I'm sure they will receive a warm welcome from us. I believe quite a few of them did at various points last season as guests of Markus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Great statement and answers pretty much what we wanted to know. The club will remain in the family and there were plans put in place. While some of our resident mongs are quick to attack nc at every turn i think the vast majority appreciate what he has done. The fact he won't give up is a good trait. But a better one is he had the intelligence to think ahead and cover the bases when unexpected things might happen. And they always do happen. So many people from our past would of used this as an excuse for failure. Nc has not done that, he has made it clear he will see it through to the end and it will only happen if we support him and the team. Judge nc on success of the football club. 1 trophy is a good indicator we are in the right hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Excellent suggestion NC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 The way NC is dressed and sat in this pic is unbelievably disrespectful. His relaxed posture should not be in the same statement about ML's passing away. I cannot believe the club used this. It doesnt take much to take a new picture in all black and hands behind his back does it? Are you really serious? Maybe the team should play in black for the next year too! I think NC the club and supporters have come together superbly to offer their respects to a great man, which says a lot more than any contrived photo in black ever will! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA77 Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Are you really serious? Maybe the team should play in black for the next year too! I think NC the club and supporters have come together superbly to offer their respects to a great man, which says a lot more than any contrived photo in black ever will! of course, he was being deadly serious *insert mong smiley* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Are you really serious? Maybe the team should play in black for the next year too! I think NC the club and supporters have come together superbly to offer their respects to a great man, which says a lot more than any contrived photo in black ever will! Blimey! Don't they do irony in Dubai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%Red&White Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Blimey! Don't they do irony in Dubai? But to be fair to 'Saint Without a Halo' and a few others you never can really tell if someone's being serious or taking the p*ss on here these days. I'm all for a bit of humour in threads on the main board but sarcasm and endless wind-ups are probably best left for the 'Muppet Show' as intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Blimey! Don't they do irony in Dubai? Nope, we have Maids that do that for us. Oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Behind the justified praise for Markus and the shock of his passing, its worth remembering that it was Cortese who took the Saints' project to ML in the first place. Not sure we know what Cortese's motivation was, but it was said that Markus agreed to spend the money, as long as Nicola ran the club. This may well be more Cortese's project than it was Markus' although impossible to carry out without ML's backing, and clearly Markus had an initial interest and we are told, a growing interest. Some people may buy football clubs for power or status, some for sentimental attachment and some for other motivations, but business investment doesn't seem to be high on the list of reasons as debt is often more common than profit. Maybe we won't know until its all past history, as to why Cortese and Leibherr took on the Saints, but it does seem that we still have the prime mover sitting in the Chairman's office. If as appears to be the case, the finances are secure for the next few years this is the key factor, although presumably Nicola will be answerable in some way to the new owners of Mali (Markus' group of companies). It could be even more important to Cortese now, that the team are successful, as he will want to justify the project to the Leibherr family, whereas with Markus, that stage was already passed and they probably both saw the job as a joint project. If Cortese is a little more on his own now, one thing he will want is wholehearted support from the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 That was a good statement & looks like we are in safe hands, the last few days will have shown the family that they are now part of a bigger Saints Family! They will in my view also have Markus wishes & dreams in mind. Good words from NC also, he only has Southampton's interest's at heart. I truly believe that he will do all he can now to fulfil Markus wishes & aspirations, there maybe a few up's & downs along the way but we will achieve it in due coarse. WIFM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 im still pretty sure that the FL will need a name as to who the owner is, maybe this is still to be confirmed (will reading etc etc) but at least we know we are staying with the Leibherr family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Roll on tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 I just hope we can make tomorrow a celebration of Markus life by being 110% behind the team and management and shout madly for the whole 90 minutes plus WIFM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 I just hope we can make tomorrow a celebration of Markus life by being 110% behind the team and management and shout madly for the whole 90 minutes plus WIFM What, the whole wide-eyed, arm flailing, frothing at the mouth, incoherent screaming gig? Don't know if I can keep that up for 90 minutes, but by God Sir, I'll give it me best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Did Cortese take the project to Liebherr. Or was it Andrew Oldknow who too the project to Liebherr? I will leave you with that thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Did Cortese take the project to Liebherr. Or was it Andrew Oldknow who too the project to Liebherr? I will leave you with that thought... Dont care if it was Elvis Presley who took the project to him, I'm just thankful someone did. When you think of some of the, ahem, more shady characters that turn up at football clubs and run them I think Markus buying us was a god send. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Did Cortese take the project to Liebherr. Or was it Andrew Oldknow who too the project to Liebherr? I will leave you with that thought... I thought my grammar was pants.....!! Anyone whoever did take the project who cares.... What I do know is get some bloody new players in now as I love watching the reaction from other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Saw Cortese and some of the Liebherr family walking round the memorials outside the ground about 11.30 today, before going to look at the book of condolence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Did Cortese take the project to Liebherr. Or was it Andrew Oldknow who too the project to Liebherr? I will leave you with that thought...Cortese took the project to Liebherr, trust me on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Did Bobby Stokes score the winning goal in the 1976 F.A. Cup Final? Or was it Sidney Poitier in a wig? I will leave you with that thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Cortese took the project to Liebherr, trust me on this one. I agree, and I think it was Oldknow who took it to NC, I stand to be corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Dbp trolling more unsubstantiated crap again I see. Brilliant statement, clears a lot up. I'm sure more specifics will be revealed in due course. I for one am fully behind Cortese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 I agree, and I think it was Oldknow who took it to NC, I stand to be corrected.Not to my knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Not to my knowledge nor mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Did Bobby Stokes score the winning goal in the 1976 F.A. Cup Final? Or was it Sidney Poitier in a wig? I will leave you with that thought... Tea on keyboard moment; fantastic!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Cortese really has no class. There was absolutely no need to use that statement to have a go at those who disagree with some of his policies. He cites outide parties so clearly he is meaning the press, but i'm not happy with the booking fee and the way he treated those that used the installment plan. I'm very happy that Markus's family are going to realise their fathers dream though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkySaint Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 I hope we can now support Cortese as we did Markus. He is the guy who is charged with getting us to the premiership by the family and he will need support not criticism and petty squabbling. I am sure this will be a lot less fun for him than it would have been with Markus there and I'm also sure he is going to enjoy the ride a lot less than we do so let's at least make it easy for him. I, like many on here, would like to see the fans unite behind the club as we look forward - I don't care whether it's a full house saturday (although I'll be there with my 6 year-old) - but I definately want the support to be unambiguous then and for the rest of the season irrespective of the odd poor result. I think it's the least we can do - Markus' family and indeed Cortese are sacrificing a lot more than that for us. I'm with you Phil. I'm pretty sure that you speak for the majority of the fans and you certainly mirror my opinions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 excellent news! as always im backin cortese 100 percent it would be nice to hear some kind of statement from the liebherr family though like what there plans are etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Did Cortese take the project to Liebherr. Or was it Andrew Oldknow who too the project to Liebherr? I will leave you with that thought... Cortesse to Liebherr and then to Oldknow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Did Cortese take the project to Liebherr. Or was it Andrew Oldknow who too the project to Liebherr? I will leave you with that thought... and the forum smiled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Did Bobby Stokes score the winning goal in the 1976 F.A. Cup Final? Or was it Sidney Poitier in a wig? I will leave you with that thought... That is the first time I've laughed at a post on here for 10 days. Well done sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upton72 Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Dubai_Phil has it spot on; Marcus was the mentor to NC, probably channelled the more outrageous, aggressive financial instincts into something approachingan understanding of the human beings who populate SMS with all their foibles. He'll miss that voice of a gentler persuasion. Having said that, I thought his statement was, thoughtful, emotional at times and he's quite right to talk of "outside forces" with their own agenda. He meant the media but he's not fussed about that. I don't necessarily think he needs slack, I don't think he'd recognise it. But Dubai_Phil is right to say constructive criticism is better than *****ing. Dubai_phil is now past caring as he's probably on Sheikh Zayed Road looking at someone in 5" stilettos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Well, I've learned two things from that statement. One is who is running the club now, and the other is who was running the club two weeks ago. So everything Cortese had done was sanctioned by Markus. I'm not sure whether that makes things better or worse. Other than that, Cortese is clear that absolutely nothing has changed, and I guess that must include my opinions on a large number of the club's apparently misguided policies this season. We can at least see now that the photo ban clearly wasn't designed to protect anyone's appearance from scrutiny. The untimely and unfortunate death of Markus, and the great debt we owe him for saving the club should not give anyone free rein to make decisions to the detriment of the fans, no matter how much justified sympathy this whole matter has evoked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Cortese really has no class. There was absolutely no need to use that statement to have a go at those who disagree with some of his policies. He cites outide parties so clearly he is meaning the press, but i'm not happy with the booking fee and the way he treated those that used the installment plan. I'm very happy that Markus's family are going to realise their fathers dream though. I will give you £3 for every booking fee you are charged by southampton fc providing that you stop banging on about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Whatever you say, its clear both NC and ML's family want to get this club to a better place and do it ML's name. I'm well up for tomorrow. Reckon a crowd of around 27-28k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Good statement by NC, it's reassuring that the Leibherr's appear to want to continue with Markus's plan. NC gets my full support, and that includes valuable constructive criticism of things I don't agree with supplied free of charge through SWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 I will give you £3 for every booking fee you are charged by southampton fc providing that you stop banging on about it I've hardly mentioned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 I've hardly mentioned it. still a bargain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Well, I've learned two things from that statement. One is who is running the club now, and the other is who was running the club two weeks ago. So everything Cortese had done was sanctioned by Markus. I'm not sure whether that makes things better or worse. Other than that, Cortese is clear that absolutely nothing has changed, and I guess that must include my opinions on a large number of the club's apparently misguided policies this season. We can at least see now that the photo ban clearly wasn't designed to protect anyone's appearance from scrutiny. The untimely and unfortunate death of Markus, and the great debt we owe him for saving the club should not give anyone free rein to make decisions to the detriment of the fans, no matter how much justified sympathy this whole matter has evoked. Quite. The references to "outside parties" in that statement is childish and worrying. Let's not forget that included in that group of "outside parties" is one Matthew Le Tissier, who Cortese has decided has no place commenting on Southampton Football Club as we learnt over the summer. Let's not forget that he is the one carrying out pointless bans that gain the club nothing. He's the bully, not the bullied. There's plenty of you who have decided that Cortese can do nothing wrong and is incapable of making an incorrect decision. Well bully for you. As far as I am concerned this season should be about Southampton Football Club trying to get promoted by winning football matches. Not Southampton Football club versus every single media outlet, the Football League, anyone who ever expresses any opinion and almost anyone that isn't Nicola Cortese. Too much energy wasted on pointless pursuits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 "I can confirm to our supporters that ownership of Southampton Football Club shall remain solely within Markus' family's personal interests" - Nicola Cortese . No one with even a ounce of sensitivity would want to bother the Liebherr family at this exceptionally difficult time , but it has to be said that tonight we don't really know which specific member (or members) of the extended Liebherr family actually owns our club . As dedicated supporters of this great club it's surely not out of order for SFC fans to wonder who really is 'at the helm' of their club and to ask what course they intend to steer . In the fullness of time I hope the club come out with a unambiguous official statement clearly detailing what the precise ownership arrangements of Southampton Football Club now are . It remains my opinion that it is important that information of that nature should be a matter of record for all sporting clubs . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 "outside parties" probabaly some of the idiots on here, DBP to name but one Here's another.... Cortese really has no class. There was absolutely no need to use that statement to have a go at those who disagree with some of his policies. He cites outide parties so clearly he is meaning the press, but i'm not happy with the booking fee and the way he treated those that used the installment plan. I'm very happy that Markus's family are going to realise their fathers dream though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 Here's another.... i was gonna mention those two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 20 August, 2010 Share Posted 20 August, 2010 The references to "outside parties" in that statement is childish and worrying. Let's not forget that included in that group of "outside parties" is one Matthew Le Tissier, who Cortese has decided has no place commenting on Southampton Football Club as we learnt over the summer. You seem to have forgotten what Cortese actually said. Le Tissier really shouldn't have made his comments when it was a question posed on unsubstantiated rumours. Matt should have told the journalist exactly that and made no comment on the Pardew situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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