The non-Marcus Tribute thread for thrashing out stuff

[Burger]

No, not Chris Nicholl. Have another guess.

 

BTW...Chris Nicholl was one of the best managers we have had !

 

No can't agree with that - there was widespread hapiness when we got rid of Chris Nicholl

[MarkSFC]

ANd before anyone slates me im saying cortese knows fck all aobut football

 

Marcus god bless him brought in his trusted lieutenant....who has all the people skills of sadamm...

 

yes they saved the club but they dont own us...

 

cortese needs to stop ****ing off the fans..

 

Cortese needs to continue to **** off fans like you if thats what you feel.....

[Dalek2003]

Who was Nicholl replaced with ?

[JustMike]

Who was Nicholl replaced with ?

 

his name shall never be mentioned again!!

[JustMike]

i bet he is you know

 

hated burley doesnt like pardew, loves some tosser appointed by a billionaire who knows fck all about football

 

More a sad indcation of the type of internet fan who clubs attact...

probably thought steve baker was good and whey dont we bring on craig maskell...

 

west stand muppet

 

bit harsh considering you dont even know him...or half of whats really gone on.

[Victor]

All.

 

I mentioned that we should leave the Marcus tribute thread as a tribute and start one for questions, theories, disagreements, discussions on what a wnger Puncheon is (or not) etc.

 

 

And finally, Do you think my Statue Idea has any merit?

 

 

I think a statue is a very bad idea.

 

I think a statue conceived by you is an even worse idea as one with his name mis-spelled would be even more embarrassing than the original Ted.

[Sour Mash]

No can't agree with that - there was widespread hapiness when we got rid of Chris Nicholl

 

Which shows how utterly thick many Saints fans are.

[alpine_saint]

ANd before anyone slates me im saying cortese knows fck all aobut football

 

Marcus god bless him brought in his trusted lieutenant....who has all the people skills of sadamm...

 

yes they saved the club but they dont own us...

 

cortese needs to stop ****ing off the fans..

 

i bet he is you know

 

hated burley doesnt like pardew, loves some tosser appointed by a billionaire who knows fck all about football

 

More a sad indcation of the type of internet fan who clubs attact...

probably thought steve baker was good and whey dont we bring on craig maskell...

 

west stand muppet

 

Wow, another sash-hating Ultra...

[Burger]

Which shows how utterly thick many Saints fans are.

 

the majority of Saints fans at that time.......

[Joensuu]

Why do some many people dislike Cortese?

 

There have been various rumours, but few facts. Some on here seem to have lept into a default postion of thinking that their can't be smoke without fire. I suspect we are seeing the old guard, who have become digruntled in the last year by loosing their benefits, freebies and inside info, and who are desperately trying to fan flames around Cortese.

 

I don't know Cortese, and certainly haven't formed the same opinion of his personality that some on here seem to. So far he seems to be very professional, while showing that he won't take any s**t from anyone. Isn't that exactly the sort of CEO every company dreams of having? I'm not saying I'd get on with Cortese personally, I sense he wouldn't be the sort to grab a pint with lunch, but so far I have seen no evidence to suggest he isn't running the Saints the way successful businesses operate: efficient, streamlined, ambitious, forward-thinking. Seriously what more could we ask for?

 

At the moment, and moreso since Markus' passing, efforts by some on here to undermine Cortese don't strike me as rational. Sure he has ruffled a few feathers, but attacks on Cortese seem to be direct attacks against the future success of the Saints. Do some of enjoy the team decending through the leagues? Are some of you really willing to put your own personal dislike of a man, you have never met, without evidence, before your support of the Saints? That's something I can't fathom.

[AussieDog]

No can't agree with that - there was widespread hapiness when we got rid of Chris Nicholl

 

Bullsh!t!!! Chris Nicholl's era was one of the most successful, in terms of league position, and considering he was a no-nonsense centre back, his teams played with flair. I can't say I was devastated to see him leave, but I was mystified at the time. I would have him over ANY of our managers since (jury is still out on Pardew, I'm afraid, but I'm still hopeful he will do the business). I know none of my fellow Saints fans had "widespread happiness" at his departure!

[alpine_saint]

Why do some many people dislike Cortese?

 

There have been various rumours, but few facts. Some on here seem to have lept into a default postion of thinking that their can't be smoke without fire. I suspect we are seeing the old guard, who have become digruntled in the last year by loosing their benefits, freebies and inside info, and who are desperately trying to fan flames around Cortese.

 

I don't know Cortese, and certainly haven't formed the same opinion of his personality that some on here seem to. So far he seems to be very professional, while showing that he won't take any s**t from anyone. Isn't that exactly the sort of CEO every company dreams of having? I'm not saying I'd get on with Cortese personally, I sense he wouldn't be the sort to grab a pint with lunch, but so far I have seen no evidence to suggest he isn't running the Saints the way successful businesses operate: efficient, streamlined, ambitious, forward-thinking. Seriously what more could we ask for?

 

At the moment, and moreso since Markus' passing, efforts by some on here to undermine Cortese don't strike me as rational. Sure he has ruffled a few feathers, but attacks on Cortese seem to be direct attacks against the future success of the Saints. Do some of enjoy the team decending through the leagues? Are some of you really willing to put your own personal dislike of a man, you have never met, without evidence, before your support of the Saints? That's something I can't fathom.

 

Brilliant post. My compliements, sir.

[Gingeletiss]

Why do some many people dislike Cortese?

 

There have been various rumours, but few facts. Some on here seem to have lept into a default postion of thinking that their can't be smoke without fire. I suspect we are seeing the old guard, who have become digruntled in the last year by loosing their benefits, freebies and inside info, and who are desperately trying to fan flames around Cortese.

 

I don't know Cortese, and certainly haven't formed the same opinion of his personality that some on here seem to. So far he seems to be very professional, while showing that he won't take any s**t from anyone. Isn't that exactly the sort of CEO every company dreams of having? I'm not saying I'd get on with Cortese personally, I sense he wouldn't be the sort to grab a pint with lunch, but so far I have seen no evidence to suggest he isn't running the Saints the way successful businesses operate: efficient, streamlined, ambitious, forward-thinking. Seriously what more could we ask for?

 

At the moment, and moreso since Markus' passing, efforts by some on here to undermine Cortese don't strike me as rational. Sure he has ruffled a few feathers, but attacks on Cortese seem to be direct attacks against the future success of the Saints. Do some of enjoy the team decending through the leagues? Are some of you really willing to put your own personal dislike of a man, you have never met, without evidence, before your support of the Saints? That's something I can't fathom.

 

Because alas, they appear to add 2+2, and always come up with 5. Any rumour is treated as fact by some on here. FWIW, most fans I talk to, hold NC in high regard, it seems that a few internet warrior types on here, have taken it upon themselves to embarke on a hate campaign.

[Burger]

Bullsh!t!!! Chris Nicholl's era was one of the most successful, in terms of league position, and considering he was a no-nonsense centre back, his teams played with flair. I can't say I was devastated to see him leave, but I was mystified at the time. I would have him over ANY of our managers since (jury is still out on Pardew, I'm afraid, but I'm still hopeful he will do the business). I know none of my fellow Saints fans had "widespread happiness" at his departure!

 

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. With what has gone since then no doubt the 80s were some of the best times for Saints - but given that Nicholl has such a wealth of talent at his dispossal, at the time there was general dissatisfaction with what we achieved under him. Granted if we knew what was to follow ...................but at the time we were not happy supporters. Are we ever?

[Sour Mash]

Why do some many people dislike Cortese?

 

There have been various rumours, but few facts. Some on here seem to have lept into a default postion of thinking that their can't be smoke without fire. I suspect we are seeing the old guard, who have become digruntled in the last year by loosing their benefits, freebies and inside info, and who are desperately trying to fan flames around Cortese.

 

I don't know Cortese, and certainly haven't formed the same opinion of his personality that some on here seem to. So far he seems to be very professional, while showing that he won't take any s**t from anyone. Isn't that exactly the sort of CEO every company dreams of having? I'm not saying I'd get on with Cortese personally, I sense he wouldn't be the sort to grab a pint with lunch, but so far I have seen no evidence to suggest he isn't running the Saints the way successful businesses operate: efficient, streamlined, ambitious, forward-thinking. Seriously what more could we ask for?

 

At the moment, and moreso since Markus' passing, efforts by some on here to undermine Cortese don't strike me as rational. Sure he has ruffled a few feathers, but attacks on Cortese seem to be direct attacks against the future success of the Saints. Do some of enjoy the team decending through the leagues? Are some of you really willing to put your own personal dislike of a man, you have never met, without evidence, before your support of the Saints? That's something I can't fathom.

 

I have never and most likely never will receive "their benefits, freebies and inside info" from the club and neither have any of my mates. However, we all feel that Cortese views supporters as cash cows to be milked for as much money as possible, while paying no interest to their views or opinions on any matter. Communication from the club has been abysmal since he took over. I have no doubt that he is doing a lot of things right, but I certainly reserve the right to criticism him where and when I feel appropriate.

[yorkiesaint]

I think it is abundantly clear why many have taken a dislike to Cortese. He is banning this, banning that from going to St Marys, upsetting the entire media completely unnecessarily, seems to make dictatorial descisions which come with an air of arrogance and which create a cloud of negativity. In addition to what we do 'know' there are all sorts of rumours coming from inside the club that these are not isolated occurences, but part of Cortese's normal 'climate of fear' modus operandi. And we have his apparent closeness to sacking Pardew, which most of us would agree would have been an incorrect decision.

 

Joensuu, I can't believe that this is really your idea of a 'dream CEO'.

 

The reason we should be concerned is that this ruthless attitude may one day be reflected in the sale of the club for profit, regardless of the suitability of the buyer or long-term sustainability, as well as damaging the club in the meantime by creating sour relationships with other clubs, the football league, the media, fanbase and so on.

 

I for one thing see Cortese as a man with great ambition, but perhaps lacking the maturity needed to manage such a complex business.

[hypochondriac]

Because alas, they appear to add 2+2, and always come up with 5. Any rumour is treated as fact by some on here. FWIW, most fans I talk to, hold NC in high regard, it seems that a few internet warrior types on here, have taken it upon themselves to embarke on a hate campaign.

 

If that is true, then why the boos at wembley?

[frankie]

Why do some many people dislike Cortese?

 

There have been various rumours, but few facts. Some on here seem to have lept into a default postion of thinking that their can't be smoke without fire. I suspect we are seeing the old guard, who have become digruntled in the last year by loosing their benefits, freebies and inside info, and who are desperately trying to fan flames around Cortese.

 

I don't know Cortese, and certainly haven't formed the same opinion of his personality that some on here seem to. So far he seems to be very professional, while showing that he won't take any s**t from anyone. Isn't that exactly the sort of CEO every company dreams of having? I'm not saying I'd get on with Cortese personally, I sense he wouldn't be the sort to grab a pint with lunch, but so far I have seen no evidence to suggest he isn't running the Saints the way successful businesses operate: efficient, streamlined, ambitious, forward-thinking. Seriously what more could we ask for?

 

At the moment, and moreso since Markus' passing, efforts by some on here to undermine Cortese don't strike me as rational. Sure he has ruffled a few feathers, but attacks on Cortese seem to be direct attacks against the future success of the Saints. Do some of enjoy the team decending through the leagues? Are some of you really willing to put your own personal dislike of a man, you have never met, without evidence, before your support of the Saints? That's something I can't fathom.

 

Great post mate, rational, sensible and doesnt belong on here

 

Frankie

[Secret Site Agent]

I think a statue is a very bad idea.

 

I think a statue conceived by you is an even worse idea as one with his name mis-spelled would be even more embarrassing than the original Ted.

 

Well, that's not very nice is it? Thanks for that. Please explain why you think it would be a bad idea and thanks for berating me for mis-spelling Markus, I will endeavour, in the future, to change my spell checker on my blasted Ipaq. And thanks for the personal attack on here and not on the Markus tribute thread. It's always good for people to follow instructions. Like you did. And you like the statue idea then, but not by me. That is good.

[Gingeletiss]

If that is true, then why the boos at wembley?

 

And you claim that you don't troll.....what a laugh you are:rolleyes:

[Joensuu]

I have never and most likely never will receive "their benefits, freebies and inside info" from the club and neither have any of my mates. However, we all feel that Cortese views supporters as cash cows to be milked for as much money as possible, while paying no interest to their views or opinions on any matter. Communication from the club has been abysmal since he took over. I have no doubt that he is doing a lot of things right, but I certainly reserve the right to criticism him where and when I feel appropriate.

 

SM, I didn't mean to suggest that posters on here were in receipt of freebies. Instead that the smoke might be being fanned by people who did recieve freebies, and that posters on here are seeing that smoke and jumping to their own conclusons.

 

Many professional companies look to find ways to increase their revenue (certainly that is something all of the more successful of companies have in common with one another). I'm not so sure communication is 'abysmal' - IMO it has generally become more professional, with fewer rumours being leaked to the local media. The communications to fans should indeed be improved and hopefully we should soon see the benefits of the recent recruitements in this area.

 

The only example of a communication that definately could have been handled better was the changes to ticket prices, and withdrawl of installment plan. I can only assume that the club (for some unknown reason) was busy evaluating the options, long after the pricing news should have been announced. In my experience, I have encountered plenty of examples where companies have postponed, and delayed making decisions, then rushed them at the last minute. It's never a good idea, and certainly something to be improved, but sometimes (for numerous reasons), a communication gets delayed, rushed, and end up appearing messy. For now I'm willing to give Saints the benefit of the doubt.

 

Certainly, I'm glad we are past the days of seeing BWP or DMG being wheeled out onto the website with a 'determined to do better than last week' statement, only to prove the exact opposite on the pitch a few days later.

 

I think it is abundantly clear why many have taken a dislike to Cortese. He is banning this, banning that from going to St Marys, upsetting the entire media completely unnecessarily, seems to make dictatorial descisions which come with an air of arrogance and which create a cloud of negativity. In addition to what we do 'know' there are all sorts of rumours coming from inside the club that these are not isolated occurences, but part of Cortese's normal 'climate of fear' modus operandi. And we have his apparent closeness to sacking Pardew, which most of us would agree would have been an incorrect decision.

 

Joensuu, I can't believe that this is really your idea of a 'dream CEO'.

 

The reason we should be concerned is that this ruthless attitude may one day be reflected in the sale of the club for profit, regardless of the suitability of the buyer or long-term sustainability, as well as damaging the club in the meantime by creating sour relationships with other clubs, the football league, the media, fanbase and so on.

 

I for one thing see Cortese as a man with great ambition, but perhaps lacking the maturity needed to manage such a complex business.

 

Yorkie, so far there is little actually evidence, just lots of rumour. He's only banned two groups of people (to my knowledge), the Echo, and press photographers. We don't know the reasons behind these moves, but they can both be explained in rational ways, without needing to jump to a 'mini-hitler' conclusion. The press photographers decision could have been made in relation to Markus' condition; equally it could have been made for financial reasons (whether rightly or wrongly). The Echo decision could have been made to stamp out the leaking of back-door rumours, perhaps even to help end the freebie culture? I'm not saying this is definately what has happened, just that we simply don't know one way or the other.

 

When you blow through the rumour, the evidence relating to Cortese, is that he has been highly successful in his previous career, he had Markus' confidence, he is highly respected, and since becoming our chairman the vast majority of the decisions have been very positive and amitious. Of course I can see that he 'might' be causing problems, but I simply haven't seen enough evidence supporting this opinion. I have however seen a raft of positive changes under his stewardship; I can see a professional, well-run, company emerging from the chaos that we all grew accustomed to just over a year ago.

 

So is Cortese my 'dream CEO'? No, I'll defer my opinion until I've seen the outcome of his management. Forgive me, for not reacting to rumour, especially in the face of evidence to the contary.

 

If that is true, then why the boos at wembley?

 

Hypo, weren't the existance of boos debated? Wasn't there a suggestion that Mawhinney was named at the same time Cortese was pictured (or something?)? Certainly, I didn't hear any booing at any point in game apart from during the Mexican waves.

Edited 19 August, 2010 by Joensuu

[alpine_saint]

Certainly, I'm glad we are past the days of seeing BWP or DMG being wheeled out onto the website with a 'determined to do better than last week' statement, only to prove the exact opposite on the pitch a few days later.

 

Amen to that. Proof, if it were needed that no communication is better than crap communication...

[hypochondriac]

And you claim that you don't troll.....what a laugh you are:rolleyes:

 

It's a legitimate question. If Cortese's business style is disliked just by "internet warriors" on here, why were there very loud and very audible (from where I was sat) boos from a significant number?

[hypochondriac]

Joe, I promise you I heard a lot of boos from saints fans on more than one occasion. I didn't boo BTW but there were quite a few who did.

[alpine_saint]

And you claim that you don't troll.....what a laugh you are:rolleyes:

 

Not only that, he goes round calling other people trolls.

[hypochondriac]

Not only that, he goes round calling other people trolls.

 

Just you Alps. You're special.

[Dalek2003]

Bullsh!t!!! Chris Nicholl's era was one of the most successful, in terms of league position, and considering he was a no-nonsense centre back, his teams played with flair. I can't say I was devastated to see him leave, but I was mystified at the time. I would have him over ANY of our managers since (jury is still out on Pardew, I'm afraid, but I'm still hopeful he will do the business). I know none of my fellow Saints fans had "widespread happiness" at his departure!

 

Agreed, Nicholl's teams were very attack minded with the philosophy on simply scoring more than the opposition. We were a good team under Nicholl and put the likes of Manure and Scouserpool to the sword a few times.

Branfoot had a totally different philosophy which was the flavour of the month for teams hoping to 'survive'. Even after Branfoot left this became our obsession.

[Joensuu]

Joe, I promise you I heard a lot of boos from saints fans on more than one occasion. I didn't boo BTW but there were quite a few who did.

 

I'm not going to disagree with you. All I can say is that from my seat in section 135, the first I heard of the boos was on this site the following day. Also (from memory), I'm sure there was some debate on the 'boo' thread about whether the boos were directed at a different target, and not at Cortese. However, having not witnessed the booing, I can't disagree with what you heard.

[hypochondriac]

I'm not going to disagree with you. All I can say is that from my seat in section 135, the first I heard of the boos was on this site the following day. Also (from memory), I'm sure there was some debate on the 'boo' thread about whether the boos were directed at a different target, and not at Cortese. However, having not witnessed the booing, I can't disagree with what you heard.

 

Wembley is huge and maybe I was just in a bad area? How I know they were for Cortese though is because they happened more than once when he became visible on the screen. I turned round and told some of them to stop.

[Joensuu]

Wembley is huge and maybe I was just in a bad area? How I know they were for Cortese though is because they happened more than once when he became visible on the screen. I turned round and told some of them to stop.

 

Fair enough... I'd have done the same if I heard it.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

Away from this forum I cannot recall meeting a single person who has said to me " what a great bloke that Cortese is and what a good job he is doing "

 

Pretty much every single person I have spoken to in the last couple of months thinks Cortese is an arrogant c*ck ( which fits in with the booing at Wembley ). This doesn't bother alot of people, it does bother some, but as he keeps making stupid decisions, the people who are vocally p!ssed off with him will increase..

Edited 19 August, 2010 by Dave Benson Phillips

[hypochondriac]

Away from this forum I cannot recall meeting a single person who has said to me " what a great bloke that Cortese is and what a good job he is doing "

 

Pretty much every single person I have spoken to in the last couple of months thinks Cortese is an arrogant c*ck. This doesn't bother some people, it does bother others.

 

Same with me. In fairness quite a few of them think he is a c*ck but couldn't care less as long as the team are winning.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

Same with me. In fairness quite a few of them think he is a c*ck but couldn't care less as long as the team are winning.

 

Exactly my point I added on. Every single person I know think he is a complete c*ck, but for the majority of people I have spoken to, supporting Saints goes no further than 90 minutes on the weekend, scanning the local papers and talking about it up the pub, so although they think he is a ****, they are not too bothered about him being chairman or not.

 

I don't think many people away from this forum think he is a nice bloke / good businessman.

[Gingeletiss]

Ah!..the old double act. Carry on girls, I bet your pants are starting to get wet at the spiteful thoughts you're both having.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

Ah!..the old double act. Carry on girls, I bet your pants are starting to get wet at the spiteful thoughts you're both having.

 

... because in your rose-tinted world, everyone in your friendship circle ( a small one I suspect ) , up your local pub , at your place of work and people you come into contact with all think Cortese is doing an amazing job and he is a friendly Italian chappy then?

 

No... I didn't think so.

[alpine_saint]

Ah!..the old double act. Carry on girls, I bet your pants are starting to get wet at the spiteful thoughts you're both having.

 

Embarassing, isnt it ?

[Charlie Wayman]

In all walks of life unlikely pairings occur. I don't think it is strange that they were close. What is more important now is how is Cortese viewed by the people who own the purse strings.

 

Quite! Some rivalries, jealousies and old scores about to be settled?

 

Will he last long? Probably not, if fans of 'The Godfather' are to be believed!

[scotty]

Agreed, Nicholl's teams were very attack minded with the philosophy on simply scoring more than the opposition. We were a good team under Nicholl and put the likes of Manure and Scouserpool to the sword a few times.

Branfoot had a totally different philosophy which was the flavour of the month for teams hoping to 'survive'. Even after Branfoot left this became our obsession.

 

I thought there was a rule against mentioning him by name on here? isnt that an infraction offence?

[Joensuu]

... because in your rose-tinted world, everyone in your friendship circle ( a small one I suspect ) , up your local pub , at your place of work and people you come into contact with all think Cortese is doing an amazing job and he is a friendly Italian chappy then?

 

No... I didn't think so.

 

Not in my circle. There are one or two who are starting to question him, but most think he is doing very well, and that we are finally being professionally run. In fact, outside of this forum, there really don't seem to be many Saints fans who are debating Cortese. To most, he is the chairman, he has helped to pull this club back from the brink, and he has overseen a massive improvement both off (but more importantly) on the pitch. To be honest, the same thing happens with every chairman of every club, the vast majority of fans back them while the team is on the up, and slate them as soon as the the performances start going backwards. Cortese will be no different.

[hypochondriac]

Ah!..the old double act. Carry on girls, I bet your pants are starting to get wet at the spiteful thoughts you're both having.

 

Please kindly debate the subject rather than slagging someone off or talking about a poster because you can't accept someone elses point of view.

[hypochondriac]

Not in my circle. There are one or two who are starting to question him, but most think he is doing very well, and that we are finally being professionally run. In fact, outside of this forum, there really don't seem to be many Saints fans who are debating Cortese. To most, he is the chairman, he has helped to pull this club back from the brink, and he has overseen a massive improvement both off (but more importantly) on the pitch. To be honest, the same thing happens with every chairman of every club, the vast majority of fans back them while the team is on the up, and slate them as soon as the the performances start going backwards. Cortese will be no different.

 

Maybe in your experience but that certainly is not mine.

[JustMike]

Exactly my point I added on. Every single person I know think he is a complete c*ck, but for the majority of people I have spoken to, supporting Saints goes no further than 90 minutes on the weekend, scanning the local papers and talking about it up the pub, so although they think he is a ****, they are not too bothered about him being chairman or not.

 

I don't think many people away from this forum think he is a nice bloke / good businessman.

 

I for one am not one to judge somebody I dont know, or know anything about, really.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

Not in my circle. There are one or two who are starting to question him, but most think he is doing very well, and that we are finally being professionally run. In fact, outside of this forum, there really don't seem to be many Saints fans who are debating Cortese. To most, he is the chairman, he has helped to pull this club back from the brink, and he has overseen a massive improvement both off (but more importantly) on the pitch. To be honest, the same thing happens with every chairman of every club, the vast majority of fans back them while the team is on the up, and slate them as soon as the the performances start going backwards. Cortese will be no different.

 

Well there you go, football is a funny old game eh? Maybe different generations see it differently? Or maybe different types of fans see things differently.

 

I have Carlisle supporting family who all think he is a **** based on what they have read on League 1 forums/press and national media.

 

One thing I never get is the claim that the club has been turned round. Here is another bit of devils advocate for you. We are in League 1. We had what I would class as an 'acceptable' season last season, we done exactly what I would have expected a club our size to do. The training ground developments have stalled, so we can't praise them until complete. We have had a poor pre-season and poor first league game this season. We spent within our means ( in my opinion ) on the transfer front and have slashed our squad down so the wage bill at the start of this season is probably similar/less as what it was when they took over.

 

And lastly, let's not forget, we are a lower half Premiership club in every sense of the word apart from League placings... we should be playing well in this League.

 

Now I would say 'they have turned this club round' if say we had just missed out on relegation when they took over and they took us from near the bottom to near the top, but what exactly have you got to compare it to, to suggest we are better off on the pitch?

[Freemantle Saint]

Wow, another sash-hating Ultra...

 

Yeah right....you hate managers but love chief execs...sad little man.

[chocco boxo]

I can see Cortese ending up at Juventus and being very succesfull, just like Branfoot was at Fulham.

[Gingeletiss]

... because in your rose-tinted world, everyone in your friendship circle ( a small one I suspect ) , up your local pub , at your place of work and people you come into contact with all think Cortese is doing an amazing job and he is a friendly Italian chappy then?

 

No... I didn't think so.

 

Actully Dave/Stu/Thingymejig, I work in the docks, so there is quite a few Saints fans, and most share the same opinion. This forum is a very small part of the clubs fanbase, and you and the sicky person, are quite a minority on here, so do the maths.

[Joensuu]

Well there you go, football is a funny old game eh? Maybe different generations see it differently? Or maybe different types of fans see things differently.

 

I have Carlisle supporting family who all think he is a **** based on what they have read on League 1 forums/press and national media.

 

I have friends who support a whole manner of teams in this division - Bournemouth, Brighton, Walsall, Wednesday, Brentford etc. And, while I haven't quized them on Cortese specifically, most of them have given me blank looks when his name is mentioned without me clarifying that he's our chairman. Quite frankly, most fans of other teams don't have a clue who he is.

 

One thing I never get is the claim that the club has been turned round. Here is another bit of devils advocate for you. We are in League 1. We had what I would class as an 'acceptable' season last season, we done exactly what I would have expected a club our size to do. The training ground developments have stalled, so we can't praise them until complete. We have had a poor pre-season and poor first league game this season. We spent within our means ( in my opinion ) on the transfer front and have slashed our squad down so the wage bill at the start of this season is probably similar/less as what it was when they took over.

 

And lastly, let's not forget, we are a lower half Premiership club in every sense of the word apart from League placings... we should be playing well in this League.

 

Now I would say 'they have turned this club round' if say we had just missed out on relegation when they took over and they took us from near the bottom to near the top, but what exactly have you got to compare it to, to suggest we are better off on the pitch?

 

I agree that last year was only 'acceptable'. I agree that the that we have spent within our means. I agree that we are in every way bar league position a lower Premier club. However, I still think it's more than fair to suggest that Markus and Nicola have turned this club around. All we need to compare this to is the squad, atmosphere, and performances in our Championship relegation season. Have things 'turned around' since we went double dutch?

[Deppo]

Wembley is huge and maybe I was just in a bad area? How I know they were for Cortese though is because they happened more than once when he became visible on the screen. I turned round and told some of them to stop.

 

Think about it. That booing wasn't just surrounding you that day, was it? It happens a lot, doesn't it? I bet if you listen carefully, you can hear it now? Or after sexual intercourse? Or when you walk in a room? Or from pretty girls on the bus? Or from your children or the children of your friends? Or from your friends?

[Dave Benson Phillips]

Actully Dave/Stu/Thingymejig, I work in the docks, so there is quite a few Saints fans, and most share the same opinion. This forum is a very small part of the clubs fanbase, and you and the sicky person, are quite a minority on here, so do the maths.

 

Errrr this forum does not represent the general fans views whatsoever. Our support is retarded but this forum represents the extreme retardedness.

[Deppo]

Away from this forum I cannot recall meeting a single person who has said to me " what a great bloke that Cortese is and what a good job he is doing "

 

Pretty much every single person I have spoken to in the last couple of months thinks Cortese is an arrogant c*ck ( which fits in with the booing at Wembley ).

 

I cannot recall meeting a single person who didn't think I was funny. And then I read the hurtful things you say about me on here. I just don't get it. Why is that?