Turkish Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 We are just going round and round in circles here I think probably best just to agree to disagree dont you before in degenerates into name calling and other personal insults! Just to round up - 1. of course I wouldn't be happy if a player signed then p1ssed of after 1 game but the point being made was would a current premier league player drop 2 divisions so, yes 2. No I don't think players sign overnight but I also know it usually doesn't take 4 months. 3. No I don't think there is a queue of Premiership players waiting to join us, but I do believe we are an attractive, ambitious up and coming club that can compete in the transfer front. 4. seeing as Beattie is the first signing Rangers have made in 2 years knowing they were interested and actually signing are completely different. As I say, lets agree to disagree! Okay, but in summary 1. Given the choice of playing in the champions league or the Johnson Paints trophy, which would you chose? 2. Given the choice of winning a premier league title in another country or the third divison title in your own country, which would you chose? 3. Given the choice of playing in front of 45,000 and one of the biggest clubs in Britain or 21,000 for a medium sized underperforming club, which one would you chose? 4. Given the choice of a good chance of winnning a domestic double or even treble for the duration of your contract or a title this season then become a midtable, developing Championship team, which one would you chose? I rest my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 Okay, but in summary 1. Given the choice of playing in the champions league or the Johnson Paints trophy, which would you chose? 2. Given the choice of winning a premier league title in another country or the third divison title in your own country, which would you chose? 3. Given the choice of playing in front of 45,000 and one of the biggest clubs in Britain or 21,000 for a medium sized underperforming club, which one would you chose? 4. Given the choice of a good chance of winnning a domestic double or even treble for the duration of your contract or a title this season then become a midtable, developing Championship team, which one would you chose? I rest my case. All about your level of ambition I suppose mate isn't, play in a competition where you have a 50% chance of winning, not really sport is it, like shout ducks with a machine gun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 All about your level of ambition I suppose mate isn't, play in a competition where you have a 50% chance of winning, not really sport is it, like shout ducks with a machine gun! ambition....yeah winning trophies at a huge club....and maybe getting in on some champions league football on the way....or failing that. europa league footy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 Rowan Vine. Also why does he have to be a back up....why cant we play 2 big lumps up front in some games? Rumours are hes going to an L1 club after the club pay him off. Aygemangs available too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 With regards to the random SPL posts, I think the point that got made was a tad tounge in cheek and playing for Celtic or Rangers is'nt as attractive as it once was lets say with in last 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwanamakubwa Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 I wonder whether we will sign a Lambert type player, and then have lambert playing a deeper role. Thats where he used to play at Brizzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 I'm gutted that Kenwyne went to Stoke.... surely we should have been in for him? What top striker wouldn't want to drop 2 divisions? Not to mention his obvious affinity for stripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 Bret Pitman , wouldn't break the bank and I reckon he'd like to come here. Hat-trick today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 Egil Ostenstad on a free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 Bret Pitman , wouldn't break the bank and I reckon he'd like to come here. Hat-trick today. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 I'm gutted that Kenwyne went to Stoke.... surely we should have been in for him? What top striker wouldn't want to drop 2 divisions? Not to mention his obvious affinity for stripes. Is that a joke? why would he want to drop down 2 divisions? You said yourself he's a top stiker.....injured (badly) today though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 With regards to the random SPL posts, I think the point that got made was a tad tounge in cheek and playing for Celtic or Rangers is'nt as attractive as it once was lets say with in last 10 years. Still more attractive than playing league one football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 Is that a joke? why would he want to drop down 2 divisions? You said yourself he's a top stiker.....injured (badly) today though To be fair, i can see the logic. Strikers are all about goals, so surely they would all want to play at as low a level possible so they score more goals a season. I fully expect David Connolly to quit Saints and drop down the Southampton Junior 7 so he can bang in as many a season as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 To be fair, i can see the logic. Strikers are all about goals, so surely they would all want to play at as low a level possible so they score more goals a season. I fully expect David Connolly to quit Saints and drop down the Southampton Junior 7 so he can bang in as many a season as possible. Good players want to play in the highest leagues and earn big bucks....they are not solely motivated by goals scored. To suggest that Connolly would want to leave Saints just to score more goals in a lower league is silly imo. Unless you are ITK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKimish Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 I know it's a long shot but I have always like Jason Roberts of Blackburn. He hasn't been given a squad number for the season and Sam Allardyce said in a TV intervie that it is time for him to part with the club but that he was surprised by the lack of interest in the player. I know he's a Premiership striker but it's worth a shout maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 I know it's a long shot but I have always like Jason Roberts of Blackburn. He hasn't been given a squad number for the season and Sam Allardyce said in a TV intervie that it is time for him to part with the club but that he was surprised by the lack of interest in the player. I know he's a Premiership striker but it's worth a shout maybe? QPR turned him down because he wanted a 3+ year contract and 30k a week. The reason why theres a lack of interest is that hes an NPC calibre player but wants Prem wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 Good players want to play in the highest leagues and earn big bucks....they are not solely motivated by goals scored. To suggest that Connolly would want to leave Saints just to score more goals in a lower league is silly imo. Unless you are ITK? Oh right, thanks, i just though like a lot of people on here all top players didn't care what level they played at and we can sign anyone we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 Oh right, thanks, i just though like a lot of people on here all top players didn't care what level they played at and we can sign anyone we want. no problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 Matt Paterson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 Some of this is plain bonkers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 Probably a long shot, but Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink anyone? He's on a free, would probably cost a bundle in wages but would be great at this level. I can see him going to an upper NPC/lower Prem club though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 Think Howard would be a good shout, 6'3 so a big target man who can be a right handful on his day (as we found out to our cost under Burley). Also good at holding the line and holding up play so Connolly and Barnard would be good foils. Must be getting on now, so could be up for a final hurrah and a decent short term deal. Failing that Dowie doesn't seem to be doing much these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 (edited) Ridiculous or not, I've said all summer we should weaken the competition like last season, chuck money at Huddersfield and sign Jordan Rhodes. Young, tall and a goalgetter. Brett Pitman seems a good shout so far this season. Edited 14 August, 2010 by SNSUN Fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 Effing spellcheck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 Grant Holt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chivvy1664 Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 Iwelumo would have been good or Sam Vokes. Where adebola these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 14 August, 2010 Share Posted 14 August, 2010 If I was offered to play for a 'Saints or Leeds in League One or Inverness in the SPL' I know what I would choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 15 August, 2010 Share Posted 15 August, 2010 Effing spellcheck Have you seen him play? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 15 August, 2010 Share Posted 15 August, 2010 Have you seen him play? ;-) Sweedish international, good touch for a big man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 15 August, 2010 Share Posted 15 August, 2010 If I was offered to play for a 'Saints or Leeds in League One or Inverness in the SPL' I know what I would choose. Apart from Leeds being in the CCC of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 15 August, 2010 Share Posted 15 August, 2010 I have waded thorugh this thread and still don't get it. Who has got Lambert's back up exactly? Is he considering leaving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickyhale Posted 15 August, 2010 Share Posted 15 August, 2010 B Pitman....Yes scored three yesterday and would jump at the move to us. As only down the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 August, 2010 Share Posted 15 August, 2010 If I was offered to play for a 'Saints or Leeds in League One or Inverness in the SPL' I know what I would choose. but you are not being offered that, you are being offered to play for Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo Naive Posted 15 August, 2010 Share Posted 15 August, 2010 AP was at Aldershot yesterday –*may have been watching the Shots' Marvin Morgan. Tall awkward striker, a real handful, and had a good game yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 15 August, 2010 Share Posted 15 August, 2010 There is no chance we have more swing with players than Rangers. Ridiculous to suggest otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 15 August, 2010 Share Posted 15 August, 2010 AP was at Aldershot yesterday –*may have been watching the Shots' Marvin Morgan. Tall awkward striker, a real handful, and had a good game yesterday. Well that's F**ked the secrecy with that one then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Monkey Posted 15 August, 2010 Share Posted 15 August, 2010 Chris Woods Good player. Tall, only 20 years and he's pretty quick. Not sure if Hampshire would sell him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo Naive Posted 15 August, 2010 Share Posted 15 August, 2010 Well that's F**ked the secrecy with that one then What secrecy would that be mate? He was walking around and chatted to several Saints fans who were there to get their football fix. No wig, no false beard. And I said he "may" have been there to watch Morgan, but there were 21 other players on the pitch. And as he worked with Shots manager Kevin Dillon at Reading, he may have just been there to support a mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 15 August, 2010 Share Posted 15 August, 2010 What secrecy would that be mate? He was walking around and chatted to several Saints fans who were there to get their football fix. No wig, no false beard. And I said he "may" have been there to watch Morgan, but there were 21 other players on the pitch. And as he worked with Shots manager Kevin Dillon at Reading, he may have just been there to support a mate. Just a tongue in cheek reference to Cortese's wall of silence policy (But thank you for the in depth response) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo Naive Posted 15 August, 2010 Share Posted 15 August, 2010 Just a tongue in cheek reference to Cortese's wall of silence policy (But thank you for the in depth response) Oh, I get it. He will probably get a b*ll*cking from Cortese for not going in disguise, in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 15 August, 2010 Share Posted 15 August, 2010 Matt PatersonI'm with you Andy. I still don't know why we let this lad go. Young enough to loan out, wait for his chance, and also to improve. Very strange decision to let him go IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 15 August, 2010 Share Posted 15 August, 2010 Oh yeah right, so we can sign Ibrahimavic from Barca but we are too small to sign Beattie and Bellamy! Hypo, add him to your mentalist files! I think he could add you to his list of gullible dullards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 15 August, 2010 Share Posted 15 August, 2010 Effing spellcheck Have you seen him play? ;-) He's an annoying player, you expect one thing from him and he gives you something else that you're not expecting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dick Last Posted 15 August, 2010 Share Posted 15 August, 2010 What about Marlon King. He would be free, not want a large salary and would just want to get on and play football after his spell in the big house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 15 August, 2010 Share Posted 15 August, 2010 Oh, I get it. He will probably get a b*ll*cking from Cortese for not going in disguise, in that case. That's it Glad you've entered into the spirit of it I bet you're a wow at a party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 15 August, 2010 Share Posted 15 August, 2010 AP was at Aldershot yesterday –*may have been watching the Shots' Marvin Morgan. Tall awkward striker, a real handful, and had a good game yesterday. Absolute donkey. I went to watch Aldershot last season & he was awful, fell over & rolled about on the ground Ricardo Fuller-like, claiming to be in agony, at least ten times and missed two absolute sitters. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordshire_saint Posted 15 August, 2010 Share Posted 15 August, 2010 What secrecy would that be mate? He was walking around and chatted to several Saints fans who were there to get their football fix. No wig, no false beard. And I said he "may" have been there to watch Morgan, but there were 21 other players on the pitch. And as he worked with Shots manager Kevin Dillon at Reading, he may have just been there to support a mate. Morgan wouldn't be a bad shout, a centre-back's nightmare and had a good season in League 2 last year. If we want a backup for Lambert, this is the sort of player we're likely to sign and to be honest, I'd prefer us to sign. Someone with a bit of hunger. Howard would be ideal, but I'm guessing he'll either stay as a backup at Leicester or go to Huddersfield as a 1st choice. With regards to some of the other names mentioned, it's both hillarious and embarrassing how little some of our fans seem to know about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 16 August, 2010 Share Posted 16 August, 2010 Oh right, thanks, i just though like a lot of people on here all top players didn't care what level they played at and we can sign anyone we want. Turkish why do you have to mock other people, fellow Saints fans? The opening thread was about who'd we like to sign, it didn't say "please make sure any player mentioned is not being chased by any other team" Beattie is 32, his wife comes from Southampton, he loves the area, city and club, why is it such a wrench from reality to think we'd have a chance of signing him? Yes of course Rangers is a bigger club than us, and for him to choose us over them would of taken a massive effort from everyone at the club, but imo a possibility! I've never said we could sign any player we want, I've never said any top striker would drop 2 leagues to play for us. I did say a 32 year old player in the twilight of his career may consider us! Did Conelly not drop down from Sunderland to this crappy un-attractive club?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 August, 2010 Share Posted 16 August, 2010 Turkish why do you have to mock other people, fellow Saints fans? The opening thread was about who'd we like to sign, it didn't say "please make sure any player mentioned is not being chased by any other team" Beattie is 32, his wife comes from Southampton, he loves the area, city and club, why is it such a wrench from reality to think we'd have a chance of signing him? Yes of course Rangers is a bigger club than us, and for him to choose us over them would of taken a massive effort from everyone at the club, but imo a possibility! I've never said we could sign any player we want, I've never said any top striker would drop 2 leagues to play for us. I did say a 32 year old player in the twilight of his career may consider us! Did Conelly not drop down from Sunderland to this crappy un-attractive club?? Because some of them are mental. You personally didn't say we can sign anyone we want but a couple of other people on other threads have said we can sign anyone we want and if we are serious about promotion we should pay them as much as we can. As for your comment about Beattie loving the club and the area he didn't think twice about leaving both when Everton waved £40k a week under his nose did he. Connolly didn't leave SUnderland for us, he was released by Sunderland and was a free agent, big difference. That is the only way we would ever get a player of this calibre. We are a league one club and if anyone thinks proven premier league players would turn down offers from other Premier League or even most Championship clubs to play in league one, then they are deluded. Saints fans or not, i'd tell my brother or dad they are mental if they suggested it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 16 August, 2010 Share Posted 16 August, 2010 Because some of them are mental. You personally didn't say we can sign anyone we want but a couple of other people on other threads have said we can sign anyone we want and if we are serious about promotion we should pay them as much as we can. As for your comment about Beattie loving the club and the area he didn't think twice about leaving both when Everton waved £40k a week under his nose did he. Connolly didn't leave SUnderland for us, he was released by Sunderland and was a free agent, big difference. That is the only way we would ever get a player of this calibre. We are a league one club and if anyone thinks proven premier league players would turn down offers from other Premier League or even most Championship clubs to play in league one, then they are deluded. Saints fans or not, i'd tell my brother or dad they are mental if they suggested it too. Your right he didn't think twice when going to Everton but you could see the love he still had for us when he scored against us, no celebration more a sense of guilt! All I would say is when he left for Everton he was 26, and with all due respect to Saints he was stepping up a level by joining them. Now is a different story in terms of stage of career, age, ambition, location etc, I agree, if Rangers are offering a 3 year contract on £25k per week it's a better deal for everyone, us included as I wouldn't want 1 player upsetting everyone else! Bottom line is, we are still short of quality and unfortunately it's not going to be filled by Beatt's, so, who?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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