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Why? Because he hold a different opinion to you? People can cry and lay flowers and other people can feel sad and then get on with their life. That's their choice.

 

 

No, because you are as he said. You post contriversial clap trap, and await the argument. I haven't forgotton what you posted about that poor Afgan girl!

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I think it's very sad and respects should be paid, but there is a tendency in sad situations like this for people to go over the top for someone who none of us actually knew personally and was only here for a year. Sad yes, but IMO some of the suggestions are slightly over the top.

 

You're beyond belief, you really are. I've nothing more to say about you.

 

Really nice gesture from MK Dons and it's only right that our next game is at home. Let's get as many in there as possible.

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But we don't have to agree with it. Personally I would have liked to have seen the game go ahead, but I'm not exactly going to make a huge fuss. Plenty of people have said the same.

 

I will say it....others are thinking it no dount...

 

you should be quiet..all your "nudge nudge wink wink" crap over the last month or so (along with one or two others) suggesting reasons why the pre season tour was announced late and why communications were late coming from the club...and why we have not seen much of cortese have been blown out of the water....litterally..by this tragic news that the guy who, for no particular reason, fell in love with our whacky club....he saved us from being nothing...at least we can do is take time away from football, let the tributes build up and have one big release at the orient game...i cannot see anything but a saints win..even if the crowd drag the team to victory....

 

dear christ

 

if I get banned for that post, it would have been worth every word

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I'm posting what I honestly feel and would say it to your face if we met in real life. Sorry if that offends you.

 

Everything you post is offensive, I was under the impression, that trolling on here was a no no, but like The cheats down the road, you appear to lead a charmed life.

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Yes but the club postponing the game is up to the club. They don't have to postpone it whereas bad weather means the club have no choice in the matter. Anyway it doesn't matter.

 

well, it clearly matters to you, hence all your posts on the subject.

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You're beyond belief, you really are. I've nothing more to say about you.

 

Really nice gesture from MK Dons and it's only right that our next game is at home. Let's get as many in there as possible.

 

Apologies if you were offended. Sometimes it is difficult to express meaning when something is written down. I tried to use as diplomatic language as I could.

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Sour... if you have an issue with me, how about taking it up by PM or even a thread in TMS instead of trying to get a bite on this thread, given the subject?

 

Seems to be that me, as apparantly the arrogant, egotistic attention seeking c*nt is alot more capable of showing respect that some of you super perfect Saints fans.

 

Bizare, why would I want to PM you or start a thread about you? Strange in the least. Don't take it to heart if people challenge your posts such as "only the club can decide" - has anyone said anything different? Why can't people say that they don't see how cancelling a game is particularly a mark of respect without being accused of being disrespectful? I don't get it really, same as I don't get playing Paul Wotton in the first team - neither are my choice though obviously......

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I'm posting what I honestly feel and would say it to your face if we met in real life. Sorry if that offends you.

 

Guys, stop biting to his posts. He's not worth it. He trolls around trying to disagree with the majority so you get in an argument, and then as soon as you get angry and insult him he reports it to get you infracted. And the vicious circle starts again.

 

Seriously, put him on ignore and then we can all get on without his warped logic.

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Bizare, why would I want to PM you or start a thread about you? Strange in the least. Don't take it to heart if people challenge your posts such as "only the club can decide" - has anyone said anything different? Why can't people say that they don't see how cancelling a game is particularly a mark of respect without being accused of being disrespectful? I don't get it really, same as I don't get playing Paul Wotton in the first team - neither are my choice though obviously......

 

Good post.

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Bizare, why would I want to PM you or start a thread about you? Strange in the least. Don't take it to heart if people challenge your posts such as "only the club can decide" - has anyone said anything different? Why can't people say that they don't see how cancelling a game is particularly a mark of respect without being accused of being disrespectful? I don't get it really, same as I don't get playing Paul Wotton in the first team - neither are my choice though obviously......

 

It's quite obvious even to most Saintsweb members the point I am making.

 

There are plenty of people whom have never met Liebherr or have any connection with him that has having a whinge or questioning why the match is postponed. The decision lies firmly with the club, THEY are the people who are friends and colleagues of Mr Liebherr, not us, so we should respect what the club decides to do... in this case, postpone the match.

 

Once again it says something about our fans... MK Dons fans are not moaning, Daggers fans are not moaning about their game being postponed... yet our support are taking the time to have a moan at the MK match being postponed. Unbelievable.

 

I bet if I go back through yours/other peoples posts you will be busy defending the clubs decision to remove the TBT saying " we don't know what the reasons are, maybe the family wanted it this way? Maybe we should respect what the club decide? " etc etc...

 

How ironic now that the same people are now questioning the clubs actions in choosing a way of remembering/mourning/respecting Liebherr.

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It's quite obvious even to most Saintsweb members the point I am making.

 

There are plenty of people whom have never met Liebherr or have any connection with him that has having a whinge or questioning why the match is postponed. The decision lies firmly with the club, THEY are the people who are friends and colleagues of Mr Liebherr, not us, so we should respect what the club decides to do... in this case, postpone the match.

 

Once again it says something about our fans... MK Dons fans are not moaning, Daggers fans are not moaning about their game being postponed... yet our support are taking the time to have a moan at the MK match being postponed. Unbelievable.

 

Agree 110%. And I never agree with DBP ;)

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It's quite obvious even to most Saintsweb members the point I am making.

 

There are plenty of people whom have never met Liebherr or have any connection with him that has having a whinge or questioning why the match is postponed. The decision lies firmly with the club, THEY are the people who are friends and colleagues of Mr Liebherr, not us, so we should respect what the club decides to do... in this case, postpone the match.

 

Once again it says something about our fans... MK Dons fans are not moaning, Daggers fans are not moaning about their game being postponed... yet our support are taking the time to have a moan at the MK match being postponed. Unbelievable.

 

Cripes, I don't even like you, but find myself agreeing with you wholeheartedly.

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Dear lord, girl at work has called in sick today requesting compassionate leave.

 

oh and i'm not overly fussed by the game being postponed, i dont agree with it but not my choice.

 

What gets me is the self pity nature of some on here

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It's quite obvious even to most Saintsweb members the point I am making.

 

There are plenty of people whom have never met Liebherr or have any connection with him that has having a whinge or questioning why the match is postponed. The decision lies firmly with the club, THEY are the people who are friends and colleagues of Mr Liebherr, not us, so we should respect what the club decides to do... in this case, postpone the match.

 

Once again it says something about our fans... MK Dons fans are not moaning, Daggers fans are not moaning about their game being postponed... yet our support are taking the time to have a moan at the MK match being postponed. Unbelievable.

 

yep, agree 100%. also, if it were in anyway an issue then MK Dons or the League wouldnt have agreed to it so readily. Its just WOM on here that have beef with it

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Dear lord, girl at work has called in sick today requesting compassionate leave.

 

oh and i'm not overly fussed by the game being postponed, i dont agree with it but not my choice.

 

What gets me is the self pity nature of some on here

 

Self pity? What self pity? Who has come on here and started a 'Woe me' type statement?

 

I don't give a sh!t about someone at work asking for compassionate leave, perhaps it isn't linked to Liebherr, as I can't see any employer agreeing that.

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It's quite obvious even to most Saintsweb members the point I am making.

 

There are plenty of people whom have never met Liebherr or have any connection with him that has having a whinge or questioning why the match is postponed. The decision lies firmly with the club, THEY are the people who are friends and colleagues of Mr Liebherr, not us, so we should respect what the club decides to do... in this case, postpone the match.

 

Once again it says something about our fans... MK Dons fans are not moaning, Daggers fans are not moaning about their game being postponed... yet our support are taking the time to have a moan at the MK match being postponed. Unbelievable.

 

I bet if I go back through yours/other peoples posts you will be busy defending the clubs decision to remove the TBT saying " we don't know what the reasons are, maybe the family wanted it this way? Maybe we should respect what the club decide? " etc etc...

 

How ironic now that the same people are now questioning the clubs actions in choosing a way of remembering/mourning/respecting Liebherr.

 

No, don't think I posted anything about the Ted bates Trophy on here, but for what its worth I think it was wrong getting rid of it. No-one is really moaning about the game being called off, no-one is disrespecting ML and that is the main jist of my posts, the huge over-reaction from so many on here to anyone who might speak out of turn and dare suggest the decision is a bit over the top. I think its a valid point of view and a pity we can't give ML a proper good send off at the game this Saturday.

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No, don't think I posted anything about the Ted bates Trophy on here, but for what its worth I think it was wrong getting rid of it. No-one is really moaning about the game being called off, no-one is disrespecting ML and that is the main jist of my posts, the huge over-reaction from so many on here to anyone who might speak out of turn and dare suggest the decision is a bit over the top. I think its a valid point of view and a pity we can't give ML a proper good send off at the game this Saturday.

 

Pet hate of mine you see SM... along with all the people starting 'R.I.P Markus' and 'Build a statue for Markus' groups on facebook. I absolutely hate attention seekers who jump on the back of someone elses death to give themselves a meaning in life.

 

I have no opinion on whether it is right or wrong to postpone the game. Why? Because I didn't know him personally, I was neither his friend, family colleague or employee. So whether they decide to postpone the game, it's got absolutely fook all to do with me and it's not my place to judge. So whatever they decide is fine by me. It is not for me or you to decide whether it is over the top or not... neither you nor me or anyone else on this board no how close the staff at St Marys were to Markus.

 

Whatever the club do is fine by me with regards to this, as long as we get the opportunity by way or a memorial of sorts, be it before/after a game or a seperate service, to pay our respects and give thanks to Markus.

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Pet hate of mine you see SM... along with all the people starting 'R.I.P Markus' and 'Build a statue for Markus' groups on facebook. I absolutely hate attention seekers who jump on the back of someone elses death to give themselves a meaning in life.

 

I have no opinion on whether it is right or wrong to postpone the game. Why? Because I didn't know him personally, I was neither his friend, family colleague or employee. So whether they decide to postpone the game, it's got absolutely fook all to do with me and it's not my place to judge. So whatever they decide is fine by me. It is not for me or you to decide whether it is over the top or not... neither you nor me or anyone else on this board no how close the staff at St Marys were to Markus.

 

Whatever the club do is fine by me with regards to this, as long as we get the opportunity by way or a memorial of sorts, be it before/after a game or a seperate service, to pay our respects and give thanks to Markus.

 

Well if you have no opinion on it, then don't post on it. IF people want to say they think its over the top, let them. They've got every right. We all know its not going to effect their decision in anyway, so whats wrong in people using this forum to say "fair play that's their decision, but personally I'd have done it a bit differently"? Or "I'd have done XYZ instead". Thats what these forums should be all about one way or another. If they were to call off the Orient game as well, would people be allowed to object/disagree with that?

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Well if you have no opinion on it, then don't post on it. IF people want to say they think its over the top, let them. They've got every right. We all know its not going to effect their decision in anyway, so whats wrong in people using this forum to say "fair play that's their decision, but personally I'd have done it a bit differently"? Or "I'd have done XYZ instead". Thats what these forums should be all about one way or another. If they were to call off the Orient game as well, would people be allowed to object/disagree with that?

 

There's some more irony in that post. I think we should leave it now...

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Heard the news, thought how sad for his family......but thats it

 

I never knew the guy, not going to shed a tear and get all pitiful over the death of someone i hold no emotional attachment to.

 

Play the game, hold a silence and wear black armbands....it's how dignified people pay their respects....

 

too many people on here showing themselves up as attention seekers, oh look at me I'm the most grief stricken of you all over a chap i never knew. some of them should be ashamed using a mans death for self publication

 

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Pet hate of mine you see SM... along with all the people starting 'R.I.P Markus' and 'Build a statue for Markus' groups on facebook. I absolutely hate attention seekers who jump on the back of someone elses death to give themselves a meaning in life.

 

I have no opinion on whether it is right or wrong to postpone the game. Why? Because I didn't know him personally, I was neither his friend, family colleague or employee. So whether they decide to postpone the game, it's got absolutely fook all to do with me and it's not my place to judge. So whatever they decide is fine by me. It is not for me or you to decide whether it is over the top or not... neither you nor me or anyone else on this board no how close the staff at St Marys were to Markus.

 

Whatever the club do is fine by me with regards to this, as long as we get the opportunity by way or a memorial of sorts, be it before/after a game or a seperate service, to pay our respects and give thanks to Markus.

 

:picard:

 

You sound like a right asshole - People want to show their sympathy and are entitled to do so in the way they want. Why not leave it at that?

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Wow, this forum is rapidly going downhill (unfortunately). I rarely post on here because i dislike having to explain and justify why i have a specific view on a subject, if it is not in agreement with the majority. It's a personal viewpoint, no-one should have to explain themselves of be subjected to a barrage of abuse for having an opinion.

 

I think there are a few people on here who have managed to reach such levels of animosity towards other posters, that they automatically see their viewpoint as incorrect. You may personally think it is incorrect or wrong or callous or whatever, but it is still a right that we all have, to have our own opinion.

 

The constant 'you are horrible because you deal with this in a different way to me' posts are unfortunately becoming to prevalent, not just on this thread/topic, but all across the board.

 

As it happens, i'm glad the game has been postponed, as it will give the people who actually knew and worked with him a bit of time to get their heads together, by this i mean the staff (FOH, Playing, Administrative etc)

 

However, i can also understand why some people think this is not the best course of action - i dont agree with them, but i'm certainly not going to call the out because of their views - that way danger lies

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Wow, this forum is rapidly going downhill (unfortunately). I rarely post on here because i dislike having to explain and justify why i have a specific view on a subject, if it is not in agreement with the majority. It's a personal viewpoint, no-one should have to explain themselves of be subjected to a barrage of abuse for having an opinion.

 

I think there are a few people on here who have managed to reach such levels of animosity towards other posters, that they automatically see their viewpoint as incorrect. You may personally think it is incorrect or wrong or callous or whatever, but it is still a right that we all have, to have our own opinion.

 

The constant 'you are horrible because you deal with this in a different way to me' posts are unfortunately becoming to prevalent, not just on this thread/topic, but all across the board.

 

As it happens, i'm glad the game has been postponed, as it will give the people who actually knew and worked with him a bit of time to get their heads together, by this i mean the staff (FOH, Playing, Administrative etc)

 

However, i can also understand why some people think this is not the best course of action - i dont agree with them, but i'm certainly not going to call the out because of their views - that way danger lies

 

Spot on. Excellent post. Gingeletiss and others take heed.

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Wow, this forum is rapidly going downhill (unfortunately). I rarely post on here because i dislike having to explain and justify why i have a specific view on a subject, if it is not in agreement with the majority. It's a personal viewpoint, no-one should have to explain themselves of be subjected to a barrage of abuse for having an opinion.

 

I think there are a few people on here who have managed to reach such levels of animosity towards other posters, that they automatically see their viewpoint as incorrect. You may personally think it is incorrect or wrong or callous or whatever, but it is still a right that we all have, to have our own opinion.

 

The constant 'you are horrible because you deal with this in a different way to me' posts are unfortunately becoming to prevalent, not just on this thread/topic, but all across the board.

 

As it happens, i'm glad the game has been postponed, as it will give the people who actually knew and worked with him a bit of time to get their heads together, by this i mean the staff (FOH, Playing, Administrative etc)

 

However, i can also understand why some people think this is not the best course of action - i dont agree with them, but i'm certainly not going to call the out because of their views - that way danger lies

 

Spot on. Articulated much better than I could manage.

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Spot on. Excellent post. Gingeletiss and others take heed.

 

 

You really take the P don't you. Care to reply re the 'Times' post, no, didn't think so. You troll your way through this forum, then have the cheek to try and spin things, when you get the kind of reaction, your very trolling was aimed at producing.

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You really take the P don't you. Care to reply re the 'Times' post, no, didn't think so. You troll your way through this forum, then have the cheek to try and spin things, when you get the kind of reaction, your very trolling was aimed at producing.

posts on the lounge have nothing to do with the saints forum. Equally I could call you a troll because I disagree with your opinion but I don't because I respect your right to an opinion. Maybe you could afford me the same courtesy? Now if you want to continue this I suggest you pm me as this thread has gone on long enough. Thanks.

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The issue isn't people having different opinions, it's these opinions being dictated by the number of arguments some posters feel they can produce by choosing that opinion.

my opinion is my opinion. It has nothing to do with causing an argument. If you want to argue or get personal because my opinion is different to yours then that is up to you. I would ask that you speak about this via pm from now on.

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Perhaps I'm a bit old fashioned, but the creeping Lady Di'isms of every death is not really to my taste. A minutes silance and then the Saints players and supporters getting behind the Club and winning 3 points at MK, is the way I prefer.Dont get me wrong, I'm grateful for what he did and feel sorry for his family,he also appears to be a top top bloke and I'm glad he came to my club, but I didn't know the guy.Talk of renaming the stadium and stands is OTT in my opinion, but that's just my view. Perhaps if I lost someone close to me I may feel differently.

 

If this offends anyone I'm sorry, it wasn't meant to.

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I think it is also worth noting that the whole Mali Group have asked for time to pause and have a period of mourning ( and administration ) . It's not just us.

 

I don't think they are doing this for our benefits ( and why should they? It's not like any of us knew him ) , they are doing it for the benefit of their employees. So the fact MK has been postponed has got fook all to do with us apart from respect that a couple of days reflection ( across the business ) is what his family have decided is in the best interests of his family/friends/colleagues.

 

I think people would do well to remember that.

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Perhaps I'm a bit old fashioned, but the creeping Lady Di'isms of every death is not really to my taste. A minutes silance and then the Saints players and supporters getting behind the Club and winning 3 points at MK, is the way I prefer.Dont get me wrong, I'm grateful for what he did and feel sorry for his family,he also appears to be a top top bloke and I'm glad he came to my club, but I didn't know the guy.Talk of renaming the stadium and stands is OTT in my opinion, but that's just my view. Perhaps if I lost someone close to me I may feel differently.

 

If this offends anyone I'm sorry, it wasn't meant to.

 

Thanks for sharing your opinion. Many feel a similar way to you.

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I think it is also worth noting that the whole Mali Group have asked for time to pause and reflect to their customer base.

 

I don't think they are doing this for our benefits ( and why should they? It's not like any of us knew him ) , they are doing it for the benefit of their employees. So the fact MK has been postponed has got fook all to do with us apart from respect that a couple of days reflection ( across the business ) is what his family have decided as the best thing to do.

 

I think people would do well to remember that.

 

I don't think anyone is moaning about the game being postponed Stu, just speculating about whether it would have been better to keep it as 'business as usual' for Markus. It isn't a big deal in the scheme of things.

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I don't think anyone is moaning about the game being postponed Stu, just speculating about whether it would have been better to keep it as 'business as usual' for Markus. It isn't a big deal in the scheme of things.

 

Can't you just leave it? Your view is one of many so please stop hogging the limelight....and please let others comment

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Sometimes it is better just to read opinions of others, rather than endlessly pushing your own point of view.

 

I often take that opportunity but thanks for reminding me. As long as I am not personally insulted or accused of being a troll then I welcome all opinions and I promise you that whatever yours is I will not personally insult you. Fair?

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