MK Dons Postponed

[Wilko]

Exeter's game with Dagenham and Redbridge has also been postponed ater the death of Adam Stansfield.

 

I stand corrected.

[Kingsbridge Saint]

Perfectly understandable decision to postpone. Leyton Orient should be a highly charged affair. I can see an epic performance coming through for Markus.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

I can't speak for anyone else, but I certainly didn't know Markus Personally. However, I do feel a sense of Gratitude towards the man, and feel it is only appropiate to have a period of time to honour the man. I'm slightly old school in the sense that I think Black armbands/Minutes Silence (not a minutes applause, 90 minutes of applause after the silence. Says something if people can't keep quiet for a minute), but I can compherend that people want to show their gratitude and resepect in other ways, such as laying shirts, crying by the statue etc, even if it is a million miles away from what I would do. Although I would have thought going and winning on saturday would have been a personal tribute to remember, we have know way of knowing how this effects the upper echelons of the clubs team and executive management.

 

In that spirit, I find it a bit unnecessary for some people to mention the whole Lady Di/Scouse grief. At least in this case, the man in question had a tangible connection to those paying reverence to him, in that he saved the club we all support. Now is not the time to question his motives or denigrate our fellow fans for the way they choose to show respect. And in fact, the response of some on here comes across as very 'cyber warrior', even if that is genuinely not the intent. There really is no need to write the equivelent of 'I'm not grieving because I didn't know him, and anyone who does is a pu55y'. After all, relatives and friends of Mr Liebherr may have come on to the forum to add/view the condolences of saints fans.

 

It's about restraint and respect, and I'm sure whatever our viewpoint on postponements/levels of grief/costs incurred, we should be able to show that.

 

Spot on!

[fareham saint phil]

Each to their own, agree or not its postponed now, the "good" thing is that the next game is a home game where the fans can say farewell and pay their tribute hopefully in a minutes applause as i would hate any "Ted Bates minute silence issues" although i think LO would be ok. Fitting that we give him a fantastic send off after all hes done for the club, my lasting memory will be the JPT final with AP holding up the cup and ML behind him camera in hand, just like most of us that day

[bender]

Dissapointed as I was going but still a good move. Will actually help as we will potentially have a fully fit team when the game is actually played, could even feature Richardson.

[SET]

Whoa, all getting a bit scouse now. People die, it happens to us all, lets not wallow in our own self pity eh! We've said it a thousand times, no one person is bigger than the club, would the club postpone a game for anyone else, i think not.

[saintchristine]

On the MK Dons forum they are full of respect for us and Liebherr with many paying their respects. On ours we moan about a cancellation and money. Sums up our "Mong Fans" once again.

 

It does, shameful. Strange though that every comment I have seen on Facebook has been totally respectful so it's clear this forum in no way reflects the general mood. Of course it is 100% correct to postpone the game, I don't know anyone who felt like going and getting refunds was the last thing on their minds.

[saintchristine]

Whoa, all getting a bit scouse now. People die, it happens to us all, lets not wallow in our own self pity eh! We've said it a thousand times, no one person is bigger than the club, would the club postpone a game for anyone else, i think not.

 

Stupid comments. Just get lost, people like you are beyond contempt.

[sfc1976]

Not sure why being 'totally respectful' and playing on Saturday have to be mutually exclusive.

[Sour Mash]

It does, shameful. Strange though that every comment I have seen on Facebook has been totally respectful so it's clear this forum in no way reflects the general mood. Of course it is 100% correct to postpone the game, I don't know anyone who felt like going and getting refunds was the last thing on their minds.

 

How many posts on this forum have been disrespectful? Had the opposite effect on people I know and made loads who weren't planning on going on saturday want to go, loads had started making plans to do the game and give ML a proper send off. Think you just need to calm down a bit and keep a sense of perspective.

[SET]

Stupid comments. Just get lost, people like you are beyond contempt.

 

Heard the news, thought how sad for his family......but thats it

 

I never knew the guy, not going to shed a tear and get all pitiful over the death of someone i hold no emotional attachment to.

 

Play the game, hold a silence and wear black armbands....it's how dignified people pay their respects....

 

too many people on here showing themselves up as attention seekers, oh look at me I'm the most grief stricken of you all over a chap i never knew. some of them should be ashamed using a mans death for self publication

[beatlesaint]

I cannot beieve that some people have come on here moaning about the postponment of the game.

Hey - sometimes events and things happen that are about more than just you and your life.

 

Its only a football match, it can be re-arranged. I'm sure Markus would be very sorry that his passing has put a few people out !

 

FFS

[ohwhenthesaints]

Heard the news, thought how sad for his family......but thats it

 

I never knew the guy, not going to shed a tear and get all pitiful over the death of someone i hold no emotional attachment to.

 

Play the game, hold a silence and wear black armbands....it's how dignified people pay their respects....

 

too many people on here showing themselves up as attention seekers, oh look at me I'm the most grief stricken of you all over a chap i never knew. some of them should be ashamed using a mans death for self publication

 

Maybe some people do feel an emotional attachment to him after he saved the club? This has nothing to do with self publication - let people remember him in whatever way they see fit.

[Crab Lungs]

Heard the news, thought how sad for his family......but thats it

 

I never knew the guy, not going to shed a tear and get all pitiful over the death of someone i hold no emotional attachment to.

 

Play the game, hold a silence and wear black armbands....it's how dignified people pay their respects....

 

too many people on here showing themselves up as attention seekers, oh look at me I'm the most grief stricken of you all over a chap i never knew. some of them should be ashamed using a mans death for self publication

 

Now, I'm not one for purposeful and "oooh look at me" mourning, it's abhorrent and tasteless but I believe this grief to be entirely genuine. Even some of the more robust characters I know have shed their "hard-nosed" image and are equally, if not more so, mortified.

 

Fair play to you for being the "dignified man" about it all though...

[hypochondriac]

I cannot beieve that some people have come on here moaning about the postponment of the game.

Hey - sometimes events and things happen that are about more than just you and your life.

 

Its only a football match, it can be re-arranged. I'm sure Markus would be very sorry that his passing has put a few people out !

 

FFS

 

I'm not getting into an argument but please find one 'moan' about the game being postponed. There isn't one.

[beatlesaint]

I'm not getting into an argument but please find one 'moan' about the game being postponed. There isn't one.

 

I will re-word it then - "questioning the postponment of the game"

 

You get my point though surely, you are an itelligent man after all.

 

BTW this is the sort of comment I am referring to, just in case you aren't as clever as I think you are ! - "Am I the only one who thinks postponing the game could be a bit of an over-reaction?"

Edited 12 August, 2010 by beatlesaint

[SET]

I will re-word it then - "questioning the postponment of the game"

 

You get my point though surely, you are an iteeligent man after all.

 

;-)

[Seaford Saint]

Heard the news, thought how sad for his family......but thats it

 

I never knew the guy, not going to shed a tear and get all pitiful over the death of someone i hold no emotional attachment to.

 

Play the game, hold a silence and wear black armbands....it's how dignified people pay their respects....

 

too many people on here showing themselves up as attention seekers, oh look at me I'm the most grief stricken of you all over a chap i never knew. some of them should be ashamed using a mans death for self publication

 

Could it possibly be that some of us remember how close we were to losing our club, of how we came to respect this quiet unassuming chap who saved us. I really enjoyed seeing the photos of Liebheer taking photos at Wembley. It is very sad (well I find it svery ad) that he could not have lived for longer to really enjoy the beauty of the game......and I was and remain very saddened to read about his death in spite of anything you might say. 62 is no age at all

 

In my humble opinion you sound like a ****wit....you don't have to shed a tear, no one is asking you to do that, just allow others to grieve in whatever way they want.

 

 

Some people on this website severly irritate me these days.

[Arizona]

Personally, I think the game should have gone ahead, with the players going out there with a "do it for Markus" attitude.

 

"The show must go on", as they say.

 

No issue with it being called off, mind you, can fully understand the decision. Also, from an entirely selfish point of view, it means I'll maybe actually be able to go to the rearranged game.

 

Pretty much exactly the way I see it. I've just added one word to your post.

 

Respect to MK too.

[sfc1976]

I'm not getting into an argument but please find one 'moan' about the game being postponed. There isn't one.

 

Exactly, I don't think people are coming at it from the angle of being 'put out', but rather have differing views on how best to deal with the situation. I happen to think that it would have been best to go out and get three points on Saturday. To me this is preferable in terms of 'paying my respects' than ten days of unsettling speculation that is now going to fill the gap that a football match would have otherwise done.

[Ashby Saint]

;-)

 

And you never mis-type? It didn't detract from the point he was making - grow up.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

No. I said: "Thirty quid is thirty quid, but that's not really the point."

 

 

 

1. It's train ticket refunds I'm talking about.

 

2. I said: "I bet they are going ahead," not "I know they are going ahead."

 

3. Please don't issue instructions.

 

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/site_help/travel_help.html#refund

 

The National Conditions of Carriage define the train operating companies rules regarding refunds. As a general rule, a ticket may be refunded before travel, or in the case of a return, the return portion may be refunded while still valid. A refund fee may be payable. Some tickets, epsecially promotions and advanced purchase tickets may be restricted in their ability to be refunded. You should check with your Train Operating Company, the retailer from where you purchased the ticket or a local booking office for details. If you purchased the ticket online you should be able to find the refund details on the retailer's website.

 

Now stop moaning ****.

[S-Clarke]

Heard the news, thought how sad for his family......but thats it

 

I never knew the guy, not going to shed a tear and get all pitiful over the death of someone i hold no emotional attachment to.

 

Play the game, hold a silence and wear black armbands....it's how dignified people pay their respects....

 

too many people on here showing themselves up as attention seekers, oh look at me I'm the most grief stricken of you all over a chap i never knew. some of them should be ashamed using a mans death for self publication

 

have a word with yourself.

[Wilko]

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/site_help/travel_help.html#refund

 

The National Conditions of Carriage define the train operating companies rules regarding refunds. As a general rule, a ticket may be refunded before travel, or in the case of a return, the return portion may be refunded while still valid. A refund fee may be payable. Some tickets, epsecially promotions and advanced purchase tickets may be restricted in their ability to be refunded. You should check with your Train Operating Company, the retailer from where you purchased the ticket or a local booking office for details. If you purchased the ticket online you should be able to find the refund details on the retailer's website.

 

Now stop moaning ****.

 

I'm not moaning. I'm merely putting across an alternative viewpoint to the one that prevails. I put up my view, others questioned it, I answered. I see no reason to abuse me.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

I'm not moaning. I'm merely putting across an alternative viewpoint to the one that prevails. I put up my view, others questioned it, I answered. I see no reason to abuse me.

 

Sorry, but you were moaning about not getting a refund on your ticket, even though you hadn't even checked to see if you could get one. That, to me, is trolling, especially on a thread like this.

[SuperMikey]

The sheer c*ntmuggery (yes, it's a word - albeit one that I made up) of some people on this forum has really come to light now. Markus took this club from the brink of extinction, and he has built strong foundations for us to build on and reach our goal. He pumped millions of his own hard-earned money into this club and after his sudden death, what does he get from the fans? Moaning and contempt about a poxy football match being postponed. I think it's a very noble move by MK Dons, a club that i'm not particularly fond of in essence, but one that has just earned my respect through their actions. It's slightly harrowing when you see more sympathetic messages from fans of other clubs rather than your own when one of the most important men in your club's history dies.

 

We Southampton fans owe a great deal to Markus, and the least we can do in his memory is to have a bit of time to sort things out at the club, and then a home win in front of a 32k sell-out crowd against Leyton Orient next Saturday.

[bungle]

He can't get one. The tickets are non-refundable. I know this because I bought them and have the T&Cs. I'm not whinging, but I suggest you shut your face until you have done your research.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

He can't get one. The tickets are non-refundable. I know this because I bought them and have the T&Cs. I'm not whinging, but I suggest you shut your face until you have done your research.

 

I would suggest you 'shut your face' and read the thread. You 'might' feel the need to backtrack once you have seen the post on the previous thread where someone stated they have phoned up the ticket office and refunds will be offered.

 

Edit: You are on about trains. OK, I will shut my face too.

[benjii]

Heard the news, thought how sad for his family......but thats it

 

I never knew the guy, not going to shed a tear and get all pitiful over the death of someone i hold no emotional attachment to.

Play the game, hold a silence and wear black armbands....it's how dignified people pay their respects....

 

too many people on here showing themselves up as attention seekers, oh look at me I'm the most grief stricken of you all over a chap i never knew. some of them should be ashamed using a mans death for self publication

 

Right, but you're not the one preparing for Saturday's match are you?

 

As Stu Phillips Romsey Benson Saint Dave has said, if the club feel it is the right thing to do then it is the right thing to do. Stop being so selfish.

[Tamesaint]

The sheer c*ntmuggery (yes, it's a word - albeit one that I made up) of some people on this forum has really come to light now. Markus took this club from the brink of extinction, and he has built strong foundations for us to build on and reach our goal. He pumped millions of his own hard-earned money into this club and after his sudden death, what does he get from the fans? Moaning and contempt about a poxy football match being postponed. I think it's a very noble move by MK Dons, a club that i'm not particularly fond of in essence, but one that has just earned my respect through their actions. It's slightly harrowing when you see more sympathetic messages from fans of other clubs rather than your own when one of the most important men in your club's history dies.

 

We Southampton fans owe a great deal to Markus, and the least we can do in his memory is to have a bit of time to sort things out at the club, and then a home win in front of a 32k sell-out crowd against Leyton Orient next Saturday.

 

+1.

[View From The Top]

I would suggest you 'shut your face' and read the thread. You 'might' feel the need to backtrack once you have seen the post on the previous thread where someone stated they have phoned up the ticket office and refunds will be offered.

 

Edit: You are on about trains. OK, I will shut my face too.

 

He's on about the train tickets which if are booked in advance are not, in his case, refundable.

[Whitey Grandad]

Gentlemen, please have some decorum. It's disappointing to have the game postponed and to lose the cost of the travel, but this is part of following football. I'm sure most of us have traveled to a ground only to have the game called off at the last moment, be it Newcastle on New Year's Day or Chelsea after an electrical storm. We even had a game at the Dell called off because the fire hoses were frozen, if I remember correctly. It's part of life, and certainly part of football. Perhaps we could stop thinking about ourselves for a few moments and think of others.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

He's on about the train tickets which if are booked in advance are not, in his case, refundable.

 

I realise that now, so self-pwned myself to prevent him being able to.

 

Advance tickets are always a punt though to be fair... there could have been any number of other reasons why the game was postponed. If you want to save a few quid by booking in advance and commiting yourself, so be it.

 

Nobody other than the club can make the call on whether they feel it is right to postpone the match.

 

P.S - Anyone got any spare tickets to the T20 Finals day they want to sell seeing as MK is now off?

[La BoIS Saint]

I don't think it's unreasonable to debate the merits or otherwise of the game being called off. Not one for going down the "it's what he would have wanted" route as you can use that to justify any viewpoint you hold. If Saturday's game was going to be a home game would people be happy with it going ahead?

[Sour Mash]

 

Nobody other than the club can make the call on whether they feel it is right to postpone the match.

 

 

Thanks for yet another pearl of wisdom, and I thought they were going to put it to a vote on this message board.....

[Sour Mash]

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/site_help/travel_help.html#refund

 

The National Conditions of Carriage define the train operating companies rules regarding refunds. As a general rule, a ticket may be refunded before travel, or in the case of a return, the return portion may be refunded while still valid. A refund fee may be payable. Some tickets, epsecially promotions and advanced purchase tickets may be restricted in their ability to be refunded. You should check with your Train Operating Company, the retailer from where you purchased the ticket or a local booking office for details. If you purchased the ticket online you should be able to find the refund details on the retailer's website.

 

Now stop moaning ****.

 

Can't get refunds on those advanced train tickets.

Edited 12 August, 2010 by Sour Mash

[bungle]

Many thanks for the apology. Just awaiting one from Diden Purlieu, but I think he is clambering down from his high horse.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

Thanks for yet another pearl of wisdom, and I thought they were going to put it to a vote on this message board.....

 

Sour... if you have an issue with me, how about taking it up by PM or even a thread in TMS instead of trying to get a bite on this thread, given the subject?

 

Seems to be that me, as apparantly the arrogant, egotistic attention seeking c*nt is alot more capable of showing respect that some of you super perfect Saints fans.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

He can't get one. The tickets are non-refundable. I know this because I bought them and have the T&Cs. I'm not whinging, but I suggest you shut your face until you have done your research.

 

Sorry, but I assume you are talking about advance tickets. If you buy advance tickets you always take that risk, surely? What if the game was postponed for weather reasons? Would you complain to the club? No. So why in this situation? I wonder if the Exeter fans have the same problems with it.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Many thanks for the apology. Just awaiting one from Diden Purlieu, but I think he is clambering down from his high horse.

 

Why do I owe you an apology?

[Sour Mash]

I don't think it's unreasonable to debate the merits or otherwise of the game being called off. Not one for going down the "it's what he would have wanted" route as you can use that to justify any viewpoint you hold. If Saturday's game was going to be a home game would people be happy with it going ahead?

 

Exactly. Why does the MK Dons game get called off and the Orient game fine to go ahead?

[Thedelldays]

Exactly. Why does the MK Dons game get called off and the Orient game fine to go ahead?

 

maybe his funeral is this weekend..???

[hypochondriac]

Sorry, but I assume you are talking about advance tickets. If you buy advance tickets you always take that risk, surely? What if the game was postponed for weather reasons? Would you complain to the club? No. So why in this situation? I wonder if the Exeter fans have the same problems with it.

 

The weather is an act of God. This is a decision taken by the club which some consider to be an over the top reaction and others think it would have been better to have business as usual to honour Markus' memory. Obviously some will be more inconvenienced than others.

[hypochondriac]

maybe his funeral is this weekend..???

 

Yes but we do not know that at the moment sao it is fine to question it. No one is demanding that the game goes ahead, just questioning if this was the best approach.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

The weather is an act of God. This is a decision taken by the club which some consider to be an over the top reaction and others think it would have been better to have business as usual to honour Markus' memory. Obviously some will be more inconvenienced than others.

 

Markus's death was an act of God, which then prompted the club to make a decision. Some will be more invonvenienced than others, none moreso than Markus himself, I'm sure.

 

Sorry, I'm going to remove myself from this thread now, don't wish to argue about something so trivial after what happened last night.

[chrisobee]

Heard the news, thought how sad for his family......but thats it

 

I never knew the guy, not going to shed a tear and get all pitiful over the death of someone i hold no emotional attachment to.

 

Play the game, hold a silence and wear black armbands....it's how dignified people pay their respects....

 

too many people on here showing themselves up as attention seekers, oh look at me I'm the most grief stricken of you all over a chap i never knew. some of them should be ashamed using a mans death for self publication

 

Oh boy, the person seeking attention seems to be you. If I had any say I'd ban idiots, you would be one of the first to go.

[JustMike]

Yes but we do not know that at the moment sao it is fine to question it. No one is demanding that the game goes ahead, just questioning if this was the best approach.

 

if the club feel that this is the best approach then, yes it is!

[chrisobee]

Markus's death was an act of God, which then prompted the club to make a decision. Some will be more invonvenienced than others, none moreso than Markus himself, I'm sure.

 

Sorry, I'm going to remove myself from this thread now, don't wish to argue about something so trivial after what happened last night.

 

Agreed.

[hypochondriac]

Oh boy, the person seeking attention seems to be you. If I had any say I'd ban idiots, you would be one of the first to go.

Why? Because he hold a different opinion to you? People can cry and lay flowers and other people can feel sad and then get on with their life. That's their choice.

[hypochondriac]

if the club feel that this is the best approach then, yes it is!

 

But we don't have to agree with it. Personally I would have liked to have seen the game go ahead, but I'm not exactly going to make a huge fuss. Plenty of people have said the same.