Did AP know?

[modern matron]

Maybe it's me but was AP's interview re fans booing related to what's happened? He seemed quite emotional considering we'd won 2-0. Possibly thinking there are more important things than a football game......

 

RIP Markus

[alpine_saint]

I havent read anywhere when exactly it happened, so its entirely possible that it had either already happened or word had come through that it was imminent.

 

No doubt in my mind that AP knew he was very seriously ill.

[S-Clarke]

I would imagine officials in the club were aware of his condition as it seems he has been ill for a while.

[Crab Lungs]

I've no doubt that the manager of the club probably did know... something like this wouldn't have been kept from him I suspect.

 

It certainly explains the "lack" of transfer activity, but of course, this all pales into insignificance at this very moment.

[fanimal]

And the team huddle at the end?

[Colinjb]

Who knows.

 

Illness does make things seem to make a lot more sense though.

[hypochondriac]

He must have been ill for a while.

[RedArmy]

Why has it not been said what he died from?

[S-Clarke]

Why has it not been said what he died from?

 

Maybe his family wish to keep it private? haven't got a problem with it.

[alpine_saint]

Maybe his family wish to keep it private? haven't got a problem with it.

 

Me neither

[Mr Saints]

Talksport (I know) said he passed away last night.

[Gigersaint]

I havent read anywhere when exactly it happened, so its entirely possible that it had either already happened or word had come through that it was imminent.

 

No doubt in my mind that AP knew he was very seriously ill.

 

A friend of mine who works at SFC heard that he died late this afternoon.

[Weston Super Saint]

Puts some perspective to the Chairman and his alleged unhappiness with our lack of promotion last season. Especially if the reports of a 'long illness' are true......

 

Also explains why our pre-season was where it was.

[alpine_saint]

Puts some perspective to the Chairman and his alleged unhappiness with our lack of promotion last season. Especially if the reports of a 'long illness' are true......

 

Also explains why our pre-season was where it was.

 

Yep. He must have known he wouldnt make it through another promotion campaign. A tragedy.

[Viking Warrior]

I thought he looked ill when he came to the club very jaundiced.

 

He was a total jaundiced. I am so stunned. I just hope that those ficle fans and they know who can retract their very racist comments of late and start to back Nicole

we need him on board other wise the skate ****s will be in the ascendency.

 

Rest in Peace Sir Markus you were a true saint

 

Red army show some respect. A great man has died today

[Viking Warrior]

spot on weston super saint

[docker-p]

Has it been reported anywhere ( with some authority ) whether ML's death was as the result of long term illness or something unexpected?

[Viking Warrior]

you hypocrit alpine

[Weston Super Saint]

Has it been reported anywhere ( with some authority ) whether ML's death was as the result of long term illness or something unexpected?

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/11/markus-liebherr-southampton-future

[hypochondriac]

Has it been reported anywhere ( with some authority ) whether ML's death was as the result of long term illness or something unexpected?

 

It just says period of illness but they must have known for a fair while.

[alpine_saint]

Puts some perspective to the Chairman and his alleged unhappiness with our lack of promotion last season. Especially if the reports of a 'long illness' are true......

 

Also explains why our pre-season was where it was.

 

Another thought on this.

 

There was some talk with the transfer splash-out back in January that the 5-year plan had become a 3-year plan.

 

Connection ???

[NickG]

I would imagine officials in the club were aware of his condition as it seems he has been ill for a while.

 

how do you know?

[saint_stevo]

Guardian article mentions illness

[alpine_saint]

you hypocrit alpine

 

Like, whatever.

 

Not going to dignify your post by answering back.

[S-Clarke]

how do you know?

 

in the guardian aarticle

[sfc4prem]

It was probably liver failure. Very sad.

 

A great man who had nothing but the Club's best intentions at heart. A true saint.

 

Condolences to his family.

 

It's strange how everything that has happened now seems so easy to explain.

 

We will continue your dream of the march to the Premiership.

[S-Clarke]

you hypocrit alpine

 

seriously isn't the time for this.

[saintscottofthenortham]

Radhi Jaidi It's really sad

Rest in peace Marcu...

 

 

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[Colinjb]

It was probably liver failure. Very sad.

 

A great man who had nothing but the Club's best intentions at heart. A true saint.

 

Condolences to his family.

 

It's strange how everything that has happened now seems so easy to explain.

 

We will continue your dream of the march to the Premiership.

 

Yeah, the impatience from Cortese in terms of demanding promotion. The random tour of Switzerland. The seemingly random selflessness of the takeover. His evidently schoolboy love of the JPT final.

 

I hope he got as much joy from his time in charge as we did.

 

It is as Tragic as it is incredible.

 

But why us!?

[alpine_saint]

Yeah, the impatience from Cortese in terms of demanding promotion. The random tour of Switzerland. The seemingly random selflessness of the takeover. His evidently schoolboy love of the JPT final.

 

I hope he got as much joy from his time in charge as we did.

 

It is as Tragic as it is incredible.

 

But why us!?

 

We needed him the most ?

 

You got to remember, this whole stupid vicious circle that football finance has got itself into is almost exclusively an English problem, and we were the highest profile club in trouble around that time. Maybe the sort of club we are (historically close-knit family/community) had something to do with it. But it could be something as bizarre as him being caught-up in the romance of us beating ManYoo in 1976; after all that was predicted in advance to be the most one-side FA Cup Final in history. Maybe he watched it. I get old Austrians comment on that game when they find out who I support.

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[saintscottofthenortham]

Yeah, the impatience from Cortese in terms of demanding promotion. The random tour of Switzerland. The seemingly random selflessness of the takeover. His evidently schoolboy love of the JPT final.

 

I hope he got as much joy from his time in charge as we did.

 

It is as Tragic as it is incredible.

 

But why us!?

 

Heard mentioned before it had something to with "Saints" but i wrote that off as BS. Maybe not?

[NickG]

thought it was due to NC?

[saintscottofthenortham]

thought it was due to NC?

 

Thats what I said when I heard that mentioned. Let the conspiracy theories commence. I was just putting something out there.

[JonnyLove]

I have been wondering whether Markus was ill when he bought us and did so because he wanted to do one final piece of good. Regardless my prayers go out to his family and his friends. (Don't forget NC in this as he must be hurting right now as they must of been close for Markus to fully and completely trust him 100%).

[Colinjb]

thought it was due to NC?

 

Could be and equally he may have told those who he trusted about his desire to have some fun before he passed away?

[alpine_saint]

thought it was due to NC?

 

Maybe NC was tasked with finding what he was looking for, and thereby brought the two parties together

[hypochondriac]

thought it was due to NC?

 

I believe it was Oldknow who introduced them.

[Dig Dig]

If it was a long term illness then I'm sure all senior staff knew....

 

As a couple have already suggested long term illness does explain a few things like the large investment in the squad in Jan and the eagerness to make the play-off's last season.

[modern matron]

Could be and equally he may have told those who he trusted about his desire to have some fun before he passed away?

 

Ultimately does this mean that the "dream" passed away with him?

[itchen_dan]

Maybe that was why he appointed Cortese to run the club for him so that he knew the club would be in capable hands when he did finally have to leave us.

 

As I read somewhere on this forum earlier, it's nice to know that Markus is still looking after us financially now that he's gone.

[maxi_sopez]

Do you think it was why we played such a strong team in the JPT and why pards wanted to win it so much?

[Saint_clark]

Do you think it was why we played such a strong team in the JPT and why pards wanted to win it so much?

 

Perhaps, Cortese thought getting promoted would make Liebherr happier and Pardew thought winning a cup would make him happier.

[Colinjb]

Ultimately does this mean that the "dream" passed away with him?

 

No, I believe from initial press that his dream will be part of his legacy. At the very least he will see us safe. Incredible fortune on our part.

[Northant Saint]

So perhaps it all makes sense now. What an incredible story.

[Crab Lungs]

So perhaps it all makes sense now. What an incredible story.

 

I'm inclined to start to think this way too. He had made provisions knowingly... blimey. I'm just... totally choked.

[Crab Lungs]

Of course we don't know the in's and out's but there is growing feeling looking at the message boards online that Markus was ill and knowingly bought the club and made provisions for the club for after his death to ensure we carried on.

 

If this is in fact true, what an incredible gesture from an incredible man. I am still totally, utterly choked.

 

Before I go to bed I would just like to say once more "God bless Markus, and rest in peace".

 

Never, ever will we forget you.

[saintscottofthenortham]

Of course we don't know the in's and out's but there is growing feeling looking at the message boards online that Markus was ill and knowingly bought the club and made provisions for the club for after his death to ensure we carried on.

 

If this is in fact true, what an incredible gesture from an incredible man. I am still totally, utterly choked.

 

Before I go to bed I would just like to say once more "God bless Markus, and rest in peace".

 

Never, ever will we forget you.

 

If this really is the case, i'll be lost for words.

[TopGun]

Of course we don't know the in's and out's but there is growing feeling looking at the message boards online that Markus was ill and knowingly bought the club and made provisions for the club for after his death to ensure we carried on.

 

If this is in fact true, what an incredible gesture from an incredible man. I am still totally, utterly choked.

 

Before I go to bed I would just like to say once more "God bless Markus, and rest in peace".

 

Never, ever will we forget you.

 

I have to say this is nonsense. ML bought the club expecting to see success as owner and chairman. He put Cortese in place as CEO as a man he trusted from their mutual business dealings beforehand where Cortese was a banker.

 

There was no sentiment in that at all. Just an ambition to have the club managed well. To suggest otherwise is plain silly.

[Northant Saint]

If this really is the case, i'll be lost for words.

 

You could make a film out of it.

[bowers-sfc]

he was fine and chatting while drinking a beer with the fan npre season in switzerland