OK, What Happens Now?

[Sour Mash]

not just content with trolling the one thread then!

 

What exactly is wrong with my post? Care to explain how discussing what will happen to Saints now is going to hurt anyone in anyway? Its the obvious thing that every Saints fan I know started to ask within an hour of finding out the news. Or can you give us all a shout and let us know when it will be ok to ask the question? Thanks.

[hypochondriac]

It's not like you to be this confrontational hypo, we all know you're view by now ignore the idiots and move on. Marcus's death is a tragedy at only 62 I think we can all agree. Let's unite over this and show his family the same support we would to anyone Saints fan who'd lost a loved one.

 

Fair comment. I will mate. Thanks for respecting my right to a view though.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

im not devastated, i never knew him. but it is devastating for his family, which should be the first concern, not the me me me cry babys wondering who is going to prop up their precious little club now their sugar daddy has departed

 

It's only natural people will immediately speculate on the club and what will happen with it. Nothing wrong with that. Markus had died, we will all have our opportunity to pay our respects to him and his family... there is only so much conversation you can have about death, it's natural that the conversation will progress to what will happen in the future.

[Tokyo-Saint]

This is very very sad news as he was such a nice guy. I did not know him of course but everything I saw and heard of him makes me have great respect for him.

 

As for the club, well looking at other clubs who have gone through similar situations (Chelsea, Blackburn, Getna) we do not have the same potential as when he was alive (unless of course we get another investor like Chelsea did after Mathew Harding’s death).

 

Having a friendly billionaire fall in love with your small club (we are league 1 don’t forget), from a medium city in the English countryside doesn’t do any harm at all.

 

Even if he established a trust fund, this probably won’t be as much as if he were alive and could give the go ahead on a whim to refurbish the training grounds etc.

 

On that subject, as the training ground redevelopment was “being bankrolled by Markus” I wonder if this did/will have any effect on it.

 

One thing is for sure, we are in a much better position than we were 14 months ago and that is down to him.

[Thorpe-le-Saint]

Although it my seem distasteful to some, at this time it is a natural reaction: My personal take on the matter is that St.Markus was obviously not stupid and I am sure we are either in his will or a contingency plan was set out for such a situation. Also, if his family knew of his love for the club, would they not want to carry in supporting us to preserve his legacy?

[westmidlandsaint]

maybe this may answer some questions. this wasn't on the site this morning. Says he died monday night and that his daughter is taking charge of the Mali Group

 

http://www.mali-group.com/en/home/

[Saintandy666]

Although it my seem distasteful to some, at this time it is a natural reaction: My personal take on the matter is that St.Markus was obviously not stupid and I am sure we are either in his will or a contingency plan was set out for such a situation. Also, if his family knew of his love for the club, would they not want to carry in supporting us to preserve his legacy?

 

Someone said earlier that under Swiss law his estate automatically goes to his family for now. The Guardian and Telegraph articles indicate that he made provision for saints before he died and also indicate that his family want to continue what he started. I would also imagine that a Billionaire would have all this kind of stuff very well arranged due to the sheer wealth and complexity of how things could pan out after he dies. He wouldn't have wanted his life work of building up his empire to simply crumble once he was no longer there.

[Secret Site Agent]

Another cheap shot on the back of Liebherrs death. Let me go on record and say something, which says alot more about me than people like Dulldays and Secret Site Agent.

 

Now is not the time for petty pro/anti Cortese squablling, and not childish subtle remarks such as those of Secret Site Agent. I have strong opinions on the subject still, probably even more so now after this tragedy, but I will keep them well away from the forums for the time being, whilst the club is in mourning of the death of the one and only man who rescued Southampton FC.

 

Considering I am supposed to be one of the most opinionated and 'controversial' posters on here, others would do well to follow my example and keep the petty and childish comments off the forum, if only for a few days?

 

Edit: Fair play SSA, I see you have taken it back.

 

Yep.I regretted it as soon as I posted to be honest. I was shocked and quite taken aback, (I am also being Corporatly audited, which doesn't help). I think I was just trying to let people out there know that we don't have to worry about the club.

 

Also, I would like to add that another Saint went marching in last night.

 

Thanks to DBM for his apology, and DSM for editing my post, and stopping me coming across as a heartless twot. I hadn't realised my membership wasn't self renewing, so I couldn't edit it myself.

[JustMike]

What exactly is wrong with my post? Care to explain how discussing what will happen to Saints now is going to hurt anyone in anyway? Its the obvious thing that every Saints fan I know started to ask within an hour of finding out the news. Or can you give us all a shout and let us know when it will be ok to ask the question? Thanks.

 

nothing wrong in asking the question, its the manner in which you choose to do it thats the problem. No worries.

[BadgerBadger]

I expect the mission is too make us into a viable business where revenue is directly linked to the running of the business instead of the current situation in football of debt or benefactors to make clubs successfull.

 

Looks like the investment is already in place and with NC working to make it a going concern and the general move of football needing to sort out it's finances means we're in a good place at the right time.

 

Just a crying shame Markus will not be around to see the fruits of his investment - hopefully he saw enough in his short time and confidence in NC to make it a reality.

[dune]

Is it me or does it seem longer than 10 months since Markus's passing?

 

At the time most of us were mourning out of respect, but inevitably thought then turned to where this left the club.

 

Here we are 10 months later and the Liebherr family are still with us. IMO we now need to see some serious activity in the transfer market to send out a clear message that the Liebherr family are utterly comitted to fulfilling their fathers dreams.

[Saint_John]

Is it me or does it seem longer than 10 months since Markus's passing?

 

At the time most of us were mourning out of respect, but inevitably thought then turned to where this left the club.

 

Here we are 10 months later and the Liebherr family are still with us. IMO we now need to see some serious activity in the transfer market to send out a clear message that the Liebherr family are utterly comitted to fulfilling their fathers dreams.

 

Why change ?

 

When Markus took us over he (? NC ?) said (Echo 8th July 2009)

If he does acquire Saints he will not spend money all over the place, he will be sensible and measured

He won’t just go mad and throw money at it, but Southampton are getting a first rate new owner.”

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4479991.Markus_Liebherr_is_the__ideal_owner__for_Saints/

[Saint Without a Halo]

Why do they need to spend more of their money on us to show commitment? We are already running at a loss and they are funding the difference is that not enough commitment for you? We should be grateful they spend it on us!

There are a lot of other worthy causes they could have chosen to spend it on.

[dune]

Why do they need to spend more of their money on us to show commitment? We are already running at a loss and they are funding the difference is that not enough commitment for you? We should be grateful they spend it on us!

There are a lot of other worthy causes they could have chosen to spend it on.

 

The fact remains that the Liebherrs are billionaires and as such a few million here and there is peanuts. If they don't spend relatively large amounts then i'd be disapointed.

[Block 5]

The fact remains that the Liebherrs are billionaires and as such a few million here and there is peanuts. If they don't spend relatively large amounts then i'd be disapointed.

 

But what of conservatism? This is the age of austerity after all?

What would David Cameron think?

Dear oh dear, Dune!

[dune]

But what of conservatism? This is the age of austerity after all?

What would David Cameron think?

Dear oh dear, Dune!

 

Not in football, at least in the top flight.

 

Did Nicola once talk of champions league football. I recollect something about this. Perhaps at a meal lucky fans were invited to.

[Joensuu]

Not in football, at least in the top flight.

 

Did Nicola once talk of champions league football. I recollect something about this. Perhaps at a meal lucky fans were invited to.

 

So you're a Conservative whenever it's others who are suffering, and a Socialist when it suits you?

[dune]

So you're a Conservative whenever it's others who are suffering, and a Socialist when it suits you?

 

Yeah, that's about right.

[the stain]

Yet again, dune betrays his Tory principles. Oh dear, oh dear. It's becoming too regular, this behaviour. dune is intent on running this country into the ground with his socialist spending. Churchill would spit on dune if he met him.

[the stain]

Thatcher would hate dune. I mean, really HATE him. She hated men who lacked conviction.

[the stain]

So you're a Conservative whenever it's others who are suffering, and a Socialist when it suits you?

 

That lady is for turning.

[Dellman]

Spending money doesn't prove intelligence (eg Abramovich, is that the sort of club you want?) investing in the infrastructure and training the newest young talent proves long term commitment and that's what we've got

[Secret Site Agent]

I am reminded of the time when Hansen said that 'You Can't Win Anything With KIDS' and Manure went and proved him wrong. Let us not forget we have many a youngster that we have developed who have become very good over time. This si the way that we are going now. We don't have to sell any more to survive, and do we really want to take the risk of getting 11 mercenaries, (let's not forget Puncheon) who only want to play for the wage packet and we fail, well they'll just leave, reather than a team who want us to succeed? Invest in the future is more key than trying to buy success.

[Dimond Geezer]

Bloody hell. I've just had heart failure. I've opened a thread entitled "OK what happens now" to read the first post:

 

Who owns us for a start?

 

Then the second post:

 

If you read the statement on the OS nothing happens now except we carry on as the plans that have been put in place.

I would assume we are owned by Markus's family and they will continue to see out his vision for Southampton FC.

 

I went to the OS expecting some earth shattering announcement, only to read about ticket prices & the like. Then I clocked the date.

 

You B*******. :lol:

[Saint Without a Halo]

The fact remains that the Liebherrs are billionaires and as such a few million here and there is peanuts. If they don't spend relatively large amounts then i'd be disapointed.

 

They own us as a business not as a charity how do you know who owns us and who has billions given we are not privvy to the will, also how do you know what commitments the current owners already have. If a relative left you something he enjoyed with an an ongoing commitment to continue spending your money on it, would you nbe inclined to do so. Even if it did not hold the same level of interest to you?

There really is no reason for them to spend any of THEIR MONEY and we have no right to demand it. anything they choose to spend we should be grateful for.

We should remember where we were without this family and how far their money spent willingly has brought us!

 

It is a fact we made a £7m loss lat year and are still bidding £2.8m for Billy Sharp and hanging on to the likes of Llanna, Fonte, Lambert and Chamberlain in terms of wages etc. So they must be providing a considerable sum of money which we should be thankful for.

 

Let us wait till the end of the window in August to see if any more is forthcoming before expressing disappointment with them.

Edited 30 June, 2011 by Saint Without a Halo

[Danbert]

They own us as a business not as a charity how do you know who owns us and who has billions given we are not privvy to the will, also how do you know what commitments the current owners already have. If a relative left you something he enjoyed with an an ongoing commitment to continue spending your money on it, would you nbe inclined to do so. Even if it did not hold the same level of interest to you?

There really is no reason for them to spend any of THEIR MONEY and we have no right to demand it. anything they choose to spend we should be grateful for.

We should remember where we were without this family and how far their money spent willingly has brought us!

 

It is a fact we made a £7m loss lat year and are still bidding £2.8m for Billy Sharp and hanging on to the likes of Llanna, Fonte, Lambert and Chamberlain in terms of wages etc. So they must be providing a considerable sum of money which we should be thankful for.

 

Let us wait till the end of the window in August to see if any more is forthcoming before expressing disappointment with them.

 

I'd be disappointed if we don't make significant purchases because our chairman and others connected with SFC have been bigging the club up so I'm expecting it. I wouldn't reproach the Liebherrs for not spending though, it's entirely up to them what they do with their money. If I was a billionaire I can think of plenty of other things I rather waste my money on than some football club I'd never heard of.