Deppo Posted 21 August, 2010 Share Posted 21 August, 2010 I have heard that The Sun have decided to sponsor all of our hoardings inside the stadium. I have heard that. I have. I have heard that. I heard it. I shall now end this post with an ellipsis to give the impression I am not letting on everything that I know, but really as a tool to cover the fact that I know f*** all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Saint 2 Posted 21 August, 2010 Share Posted 21 August, 2010 Is the Echo ban over now, seeing as David Bick's contribution to todays service has been published by them in its entirety ? I thought the ban was limited to SMS and the training ground. As Mr Bick's speech was broadcast outside St Mary's church into the public domain I doubt they have any copyright over it. Plus arguing over that at a time like this would make the club look REALLY bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 21 August, 2010 Share Posted 21 August, 2010 I have heard that The Sun have decided to sponsor all of our hoardings inside the stadium. I have heard that. I have. I have heard that. I heard it. I shall now end this post with an ellipsis to give the impression I am not letting on everything that I know, but really as a tool to cover the fact that I know f*** all... Have a look round today at the strange lack of perimeter advertsing for confirmation you tool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 21 August, 2010 Share Posted 21 August, 2010 OK, I will... But I visited the ground during the close season on a number of occasions, and there was nothing there then either... That was before the announcement about press photographers was put in place... Stop reporting your own suppositions as if they were fact... I will leave you with that thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 21 August, 2010 Share Posted 21 August, 2010 OK, I will... But I visited the ground during the close season on a number of occasions, and there was nothing there then either... That was before the announcement about press photographers was put in place... Stop reporting your own suppositions as if they were fact... I will leave you with that thought... Of course there wouldn't be any permeter sponsorship round the stadium during the pre-season dummy. And anyway, I didn't say the ban was responsible for ALL of it, just I know of a couple, one of them being quite a big sponsor of Saints in the past, who now spend their Advertising and Corporate Hospitality budget at the Rose Bowl. I report as fact, because that's what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 21 August, 2010 Share Posted 21 August, 2010 In your head, Stu, everything is fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 21 August, 2010 Share Posted 21 August, 2010 In your head, Stu, everything is fact. On this occasion it is fact. Seeing as I have openly stated I am a regular corporate guest at St Marys since it opened ( and infact back the the Executive Club at The Dell ) this would suggest I have contacts whom are Corporate / Advertising customers, yes? That is why it is a fact Deppo. I don't state facts unless I know them to be just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 21 August, 2010 Share Posted 21 August, 2010 Play it cool, Trig. Play it cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 21 August, 2010 Share Posted 21 August, 2010 Play it cool, Trig. Play it cool. The sign of someone who has lost the argument. Unlucky sweetie. Right, I am off to the pre-match pub. Have a wonderful day. xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 21 August, 2010 Share Posted 21 August, 2010 Stu won an internet argument! I'll leave you with that thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 21 August, 2010 Share Posted 21 August, 2010 The question of stadium hoarding advertising is not as simple as Stu would like us all to believe and cannot be laid at the door of NC's policy of banning photographers other than those offically appointed by the club. He claims insider knowledge as a corporate hospitality customer, but I work in advertising so can put some counter arguments to give a bit more balance and perspective to it. We are a third division club. Therefore the media coverage is naturally much reduced from what it was when we were in the Premiership. Our matches that are televised are also much fewer. If the advertisers wished to advertise their products specifically to the football fans within their local area, they can still do, as those attending matches are actually rising in numbers over last year. To accredit the fall in the number of advertising hoardings to the policy of banning press photographers of other clubs or newspapers is disingenuous and seemingly made more to suit an agenda rather than to address the truth. It might also have escaped Stu's notice that there happens to be a recession at the moment and advertising revenues are much reduced anyway. I know this from my own business figures. Decisions to reduce advertising expenditure have far more to do with the Financial Directors of those companies wanting to make cuts in their budgets and not having the imagination to understand how much business might be generated by advertising, as it cannot be quantified. Therefore it is a natural target for the bean-counters. Some of these people might have shifted their budgets to the Rose Bowl instead, as Hampshire Cricket Club have had some high profile matches televised recently. I wonder whether Stu will understand that a lot of those advertisers will be returning to St. Mary's when the cricket season ends shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfurdent Posted 21 August, 2010 Share Posted 21 August, 2010 Never buy the Sun but do I really have to forgo Page 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 21 August, 2010 Share Posted 21 August, 2010 The Sun is a rag but I cannot for the life of me see any positives from trying to go to war with Murdoch and the press. A retarded clueless policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 21 August, 2010 Share Posted 21 August, 2010 The Sun is a rag but I cannot for the life of me see any positives from trying to go to war with Murdoch and the press. A retarded clueless policy. sums up my view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 22 August, 2010 Share Posted 22 August, 2010 The question of stadium hoarding advertising is not as simple as Stu would like us all to believe and cannot be laid at the door of NC's policy of banning photographers other than those offically appointed by the club. He claims insider knowledge as a corporate hospitality customer, but I work in advertising so can put some counter arguments to give a bit more balance and perspective to it. We are a third division club. Therefore the media coverage is naturally much reduced from what it was when we were in the Premiership. Our matches that are televised are also much fewer. If the advertisers wished to advertise their products specifically to the football fans within their local area, they can still do, as those attending matches are actually rising in numbers over last year. To accredit the fall in the number of advertising hoardings to the policy of banning press photographers of other clubs or newspapers is disingenuous and seemingly made more to suit an agenda rather than to address the truth. It might also have escaped Stu's notice that there happens to be a recession at the moment and advertising revenues are much reduced anyway. I know this from my own business figures. Decisions to reduce advertising expenditure have far more to do with the Financial Directors of those companies wanting to make cuts in their budgets and not having the imagination to understand how much business might be generated by advertising, as it cannot be quantified. Therefore it is a natural target for the bean-counters. Some of these people might have shifted their budgets to the Rose Bowl instead, as Hampshire Cricket Club have had some high profile matches televised recently. I wonder whether Stu will understand that a lot of those advertisers will be returning to St. Mary's when the cricket season ends shortly. You say you have knowledge in this area but seem to miss the point. If I were (which I was) thinking of advertising at St. Mary's this season I would now be asking for a significant rebate as my product would now be viewed by a much smaller audience. I realise not every hoarding is pictured but if I were to pay the larger amount for pitch facing hoarding I'd stand a chance of seeing my company in the paper!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millbrook Saint Posted 17 October, 2010 Share Posted 17 October, 2010 I see the hypocritical NOTW, sister paper to The Sun are now charging to view their pages online. So when we charge them for pictures we're out of order but it's ok for them to charge us to get on their website. Not really got a problem with them charging us for their product but I do have a problem when they take the moral high ground when they have to pay for our product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Posted 17 October, 2010 Share Posted 17 October, 2010 I've noticed the sun are back to calling us Southampton again now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 17 October, 2010 Share Posted 17 October, 2010 I thought this was about the Echo - who cares about the Sun does anyone read it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFHP Posted 17 October, 2010 Share Posted 17 October, 2010 I thought this was about the Echo - who cares about the Sun does anyone read it? The same could be said about the Echo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 17 October, 2010 Share Posted 17 October, 2010 I see the hypocritical NOTW, sister paper to The Sun are now charging to view their pages online. So when we charge them for pictures we're out of order but it's ok for them to charge us to get on their website. Not really got a problem with them charging us for their product but I do have a problem when they take the moral high ground when they have to pay for our product. Good point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 17 October, 2010 Share Posted 17 October, 2010 I thought this was about the Echo - who cares about the Sun does anyone read it? look at the OP, the thread is about boycotting the S*n, and quite right too. And like redondo saint and millbrook I notice that the people criticising the ban have conveniently missed the fact that the murdoch press have become the first (I think) of the dailies to put up a paywall around their online content. Sauce for the goose etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 17 October, 2010 Share Posted 17 October, 2010 look at the OP, the thread is about boycotting the S*n, and quite right too. And like redondo saint and millbrook I notice that the people criticising the ban have conveniently missed the fact that the murdoch press have become the first (I think) of the dailies to put up a paywall around their online content. Sauce for the goose etc You'll find the first was the Times, as I stated when this all began. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red&White Posted 17 October, 2010 Share Posted 17 October, 2010 The sun is a kak paper ! Recently had dealings with the Echo regarding a family tragedy, I will not buy it ever again the reporting following an inquest was absolute SH1TE ! disgusted . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 17 October, 2010 Share Posted 17 October, 2010 Don;t mind boycotting the sun but would I be required to cease going on the Holiday for £9.99 hols too? That might be stretching it tbh. NB mate collects tokens and we just tag along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 17 October, 2010 Share Posted 17 October, 2010 You'll find the first was the Times, as I stated when this all began. the times certainly was the first, and it is a murdoch title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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