Saints 0-1 Plymouth - Reaction

[sadoldgit]

Finally just got around to watching the match. I still don't know how we lost.

[alpine_saint]

Finally just got around to watching the match. I still don't know how we lost.

 

Plymouth scored a goal. We didnt.

 

Simples..

[Smirking_Saint]

Win or lose we can all look forward to this all again tommorow

[David Strover]

I for one can wait.

 

Forty-one years a Southampton FC victim along with my brother and about 70% of that time I've just been generally unhappy before match day and after match day. You'd have thought I'd be immune by now.

 

Last season was good and the old Second Division days were great in the 1970s but I was a young whipper-snapper then and more optimistic than I am now!

 

Ho hum as it ever was.

 

I predict 0-0 and a loss on penalties but if Ricky Lambert plays we might snatch a win.

[Saint Billy]

Finally just got around to watching the match. I still don't know how we lost.

 

Basically because we could'nt convert first half dominance into a victory.

 

God knows what happened at half time but apart from a small spell when Lallana came on we were clueless in the second half.

 

I have seen this so many times with us now, brilliant one half, crud the other.

[St Landrew]

To be honest, I haven't made any comment about the season's opening performance until the following sentences because I have been absolutely gutted and really angry by it. In a word - shocking..! I don't care that this was Saints, doing their characteristic slow-start. I don't care how good the opposition were; I don't care if we made some really positive steps forward in our play, and I certainly don't care if we were entertaining and on-top for most of the match. The be-all-and-end-all is that we lost. We lost through conceding a goal in a similar fashion to several times last season, although many of those times, we managed to overcome the disadvantage.

 

You would have thought they'd have learned the lesson by now..? How many times must an opposition come out at the beginning of a first or second half and show a little bit extra passion or skill, so much so that we can't defend it, and they score..? You would have thought AP would have this one pinned down by now..? This is far and away the best squad in this league, and they trip up at the first basic hurdle.

 

Oh, and I'm not listening to tripe like... oh, it's early in the season, or later on... this is the crunch match. Because, from the very first match, it is the crunch match. Every match is the crunch match. Anything else is for losers and/or people who don't quite make it, but make a jolly good effort. Well I don't want a jolly good effort this season. I expect a win, especially at home. Last season was one thing, this is another. Like it or not, AP's men are favourites to win the title. Better start winning like title favourites then, at MKDons. Blitzing Bournemouth might help to get them back in the right frame of mind.

[alpine_saint]

To be honest, I haven't made any comment about the season's opening performance until the following sentences because I have been absolutely gutted and really angry by it. In a word - shocking..! I don't care that this was Saints, doing their characteristic slow-start. I don't care how good the opposition were; I don't care if we made some really positive steps forward in our play, and I certainly don't care if we were entertaining and on-top for most of the match. The be-all-and-end-all is that we lost. We lost through conceding a goal in a similar fashion to several times last season, although many of those times, we managed to overcome the disadvantage.

 

You would have thought they'd have learned the lesson by now..? How many times must an opposition come out at the beginning of a first or second half and show a little bit extra passion or skill, so much so that we can't defend it, and they score..? You would have thought AP would have this one pinned down by now..? This is far and away the best squad in this league, and they trip up at the first basic hurdle.

 

Oh, and I'm not listening to tripe like... oh, it's early in the season, or later on... this is the crunch match. Because, from the very first match, it is the crunch match. Every match is the crunch match. Anything else is for losers and/or people who don't quite make it, but make a jolly good effort. Well I don't want a jolly good effort this season. I expect a win, especially at home. Last season was one thing, this is another. Like it or not, AP's men are favourites to win the title. Better start winning like title favourites then, at MKDons. Blitzing Bournemouth might help to get them back in the right frame of mind.

 

This. Fed up with the winsome banal platitiudes.

[doddisalegend]

To be honest, I haven't made any comment about the season's opening performance until the following sentences because I have been absolutely gutted and really angry by it. In a word - shocking..! I don't care that this was Saints, doing their characteristic slow-start. I don't care how good the opposition were; I don't care if we made some really positive steps forward in our play, and I certainly don't care if we were entertaining and on-top for most of the match. The be-all-and-end-all is that we lost. We lost through conceding a goal in a similar fashion to several times last season, although many of those times, we managed to overcome the disadvantage.

 

You would have thought they'd have learned the lesson by now..? How many times must an opposition come out at the beginning of a first or second half and show a little bit extra passion or skill, so much so that we can't defend it, and they score..? You would have thought AP would have this one pinned down by now..? This is far and away the best squad in this league, and they trip up at the first basic hurdle.

 

Oh, and I'm not listening to tripe like... oh, it's early in the season, or later on... this is the crunch match. Because, from the very first match, it is the crunch match. Every match is the crunch match. Anything else is for losers and/or people who don't quite make it, but make a jolly good effort. Well I don't want a jolly good effort this season. I expect a win, especially at home. Last season was one thing, this is another. Like it or not, AP's men are favourites to win the title. Better start winning like title favourites then, at MKDons. Blitzing Bournemouth might help to get them back in the right frame of mind.

 

Do we have the best squad in the league? if so why do people keep saying we need more players? did you expect us to win all our matches this season? I might agree more with you if a) we'd been battered (which we weren't) and b) we were a few matches into the season. It amazes me that people are making massive sweeping statements about the state of the team after one league match.

[alpine_saint]

I think for one moment we should put aside our reaction to Saturday and think a little more about NCs reaction.

 

If he has decided that AP has no long-term future at SFC, it maybe that our transfer activity for this summer is already over.

 

If his #1 target is still promotion, I would suggest AP will be shown the door in the next week, possibly after the MK Dons game, in order to give the new manager a couple of weeks in the transfer market.

[dubai_phil]

I'm assuming that we are replacing AP with Ancelotti.

 

After Chelsea put in such a dreadful lacklustre performance and got walloped on Sunday?

 

 

 

Jokes aside, we're one game into a new season and whoosh a crunch game already....

 

Think somebody better get TSW a Prozac prescription ready for tonight, just in case

[kpturner]

Then you have more money than sense.

...and you will believe anything :-)

[itchen]

I think for one moment we should put aside our reaction to Saturday and think a little more about NCs reaction.

 

If he has decided that AP has no long-term future at SFC, it maybe that our transfer activity for this summer is already over.

 

If his #1 target is still promotion, I would suggest AP will be shown the door in the next week, possibly after the MK Dons game, in order to give the new manager a couple of weeks in the transfer market.

 

Oh FFS. What evidence do you have that NC has decided to get rid of AP? If he had wanted to get rid of him it would have been at the end of last season so that any new manager could have a pre-season with the squad and make any changes he thought necessary. To panic after losing one game in which by all accounts (I was on holiday so wasn't there) we dominated would be the reaction of an idiot. I agree that if we go on to lose lots more games then AP will be shown the door. But I'm reasonably confident, even given this week's tragic events, that we will win most games. But we will still lose a few. Live with it.

[Thedelldays]

Oh FFS. What evidence do you have that NC has decided to get rid of AP? If he had wanted to get rid of him it would have been at the end of last season so that any new manager could have a pre-season with the squad and make any changes he thought necessary. To panic after losing one game in which by all accounts (I was on holiday so wasn't there) we dominated would be the reaction of an idiot. I agree that if we go on to lose lots more games then AP will be shown the door. But I'm reasonably confident, even given this week's tragic events, that we will win most games. But we will still lose a few. Live with it.

 

does not always work like that....blackwell has just been sacked at sheff u.

[John B]

Slightly different at Sheff Utd as they conceded three goals in the first 23 minutes as fans at Bramall Lane chanted "Blackwell Out!"

 

But if we had not won at MK Dons it would have put a lot of pressure on Pardew

[Thedelldays]

Slightly different at Sheff Utd as they conceded three goals in the first 23 minutes as fans at Bramall Lane chanted "Blackwell Out!"

 

But if we had not won at MK Dons it would have put a lot of pressure on Pardew

I very much doubt that he got sacked after todays result....otherwise, over the years, sheff U would have gone through a couple of managers a season

[John B]

Yes I agree Sheff Utd have under performed for a few seasons now

[Saint_Mabes]

Been away on holiday for a week, what a week to be away eh?!

 

I just have a question about Dickson. I see he was replaced at half time by harding and wondered how they compared? From people who saw both games (I missed both), do you think Dickson has a starting spot at left midfield, or if not, will he take hardings LB slot?

 

Thanks

[S-Clarke]

Been away on holiday for a week, what a week to be away eh?!

 

I just have a question about Dickson. I see he was replaced at half time by harding and wondered how they compared? From people who saw both games (I missed both), do you think Dickson has a starting spot at left midfield, or if not, will he take hardings LB slot?

 

Thanks

 

He looked better in LM against Plymouth, and struggled at the end of the game when he moved to LB.

 

He was utterly awful by all accounts at LB against Bournemouth and was subbed at HT, replaced by Harding.

 

so i don't think harding is under threat just yet....he's going to be used as more of an attacking winger for us imo.

[Andy_Porter]

He can put a cracking ball into the box but that's about all he's showed so far in his Saints career, hopefully more to come.

[Thedelldays]

He looked better in LM against Plymouth, and struggled at the end of the game when he moved to LB.

 

He was utterly awful by all accounts at LB against Bournemouth and was subbed at HT, replaced by Harding.

 

so i don't think harding is under threat just yet....he's going to be used as more of an attacking winger for us imo.

 

remember in the "HCDAJFU" thread..people had harding sold to forest as we now have dickson...

thank god he still still here it seems

[Saint 76er]

I think for one moment we should put aside our reaction to Saturday and think a little more about NCs reaction.

 

If he has decided that AP has no long-term future at SFC, it maybe that our transfer activity for this summer is already over.

 

If his #1 target is still promotion, I would suggest AP will be shown the door in the next week, possibly after the MK Dons game, in order to give the new manager a couple of weeks in the transfer market.

 

Since NC maintained the status quo through summer, he probably needs to continue with AP at least until a pattern of losing starts to emerge. No point in wasting pre season and the best part of transfer window if NC has a mind to wield the axe after one or two matches. Don't know about the thinking at Sheff U though.

 

However, in view of the tragic news this week I wonder if this will now change how Cortese will see things now that Markus is sadly no longer around? Did Markus perhaps act as a steadying influence and could NC possibly feel a little freer to act on his instincts now the landscape has regretfully changed?

 

Just a point for discussion, of course...