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Pokerchampion

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Same old Saints , have'nt won a home game at the beginning of the season since 1999 , Until Lallana came on we lacked ideas , Hammond as captain hmmmm certainly didnt see him motivating the troops , We certainly have the spine of a good team , but how desperate do we need another big centre forward , 8 or 9 crosses into the box in the first half all delivered with quality but no end result , to many high balls to our 2 short forwards , then panic around the 65 mins , big punts time and time again by Davis . Also there was no pace in our team , nobody who can put a burst in to the box to unsettle defenders .

We are certainly lacking 2 or 3 players for sure .

90 mins gone game lost , and we bring a sub on , you have to question that , we have two wide men with some pace , not lightning but quick enough to cause some problems against weary legs , and we bring one on with 90 mins gone pffff

It cant get any worse . Come on Saints release some cash you know were gonna need those signings

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saint_jas

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Spot on IMO

 

Kind of spot on, but Lambert was playing in all games, so defenders would be targetting him more, so extra space will be available to other players to create / score.

 

Ah well first game of season, the usual loss / draw... Roll on next match and thumping bournemouth :)

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ChrisPY

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First half there was good movement and sharp passing going forward. We were forced to play it wide as plymouth were strong centrally and we lacked height inthe middle when crosses came in. Despite looking good going forward, Plymouth looked like they had the potential to break well which they showed in the second half. We were terrible after the break, disorgonised and lacking bite. Schneiderlin in particular looked scared of getting injured so was pulling away from a lot. The mix up between Jairo and butterfield for the goal was embarrassing with no communication between the two of them. When lallana came on the crowd lifted and saints decided to play a bit. In the last 15 mins we opened up the defence a few times showing we have the ability to do so.

For me this game showed us what we already know. We need back up for lambert. We need a winger as puncheon and dickson weren't prepared to take on the full backs and we need a centre midfielder who can break down opposition and get stuck in.

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saintscottofthenortham

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not happy. and halo catering? hollow catering more like. no food by the time i got to the bar even though i was there 5 minutes before half time?

 

Connelly & Barnard were... nothing.

 

jaidi was a joke... I actually felt sorry for him he was that bad.

 

Harding... as i have always said. Never been able to understand why people rate him.

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SW11_Saint

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Disappointing result, but then never really expected to win - it is the opening game after all! Dickson looked good, and the first half performance was positive, without much end product. Second half terribly disjointed.

 

Things will get better, do not fear, and we WILL get promoted. Remember Norwich's first match last season (and no, I am not suggesting sacking AP and replacing him with Monkey Heed!).

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corsacar saint

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1st half we played well,shame all the headed chances fell to Hammond though. After Peter Reids half time roasting,they were better in the second half.However we still had enough chances late on to claim at least 1 point,

We missed Rl without doubt,but if we play like we did 1st half and last 20 minutes we will be in the mix [We definately need some pace asap.]

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saint_bert

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Chelsea played like a Winning team during them losses. If you can honestly say we looked like a side that could have won today, and looked like we were better than Plymouth then I will accept this post.

 

Looked like a winning team whilst losing 3-1 away to Wigan?

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Nexstar

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Certainly missed Lambert upfront, we need a similar player if he gets a long-term injury during the season.

 

Connolly, Butterfield, Lallana and Dickson looked bright.

 

Was slightly disappointed in Harding (positioning) and Jaidi (hoofing), who failed to clear the goal aswell.

 

With Lambert back we should do the business Tuesday, couple more signings and onwards and upwards.

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NickG

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Chelsea played like a Winning team during them losses. If you can honestly say we looked like a side that could have won today, and looked like we were better than Plymouth then I will accept this post.

 

first half they were never in it, scored practically first kick of 2nd half and changed the game.

 

Not good enough, came away disappointed in result and some player's performances but could easily have won.

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sidthesquid

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Only one conclusion to draw from today - we HAVE to have a back-up centre-forward. Barnard & Connolly will always be too lightweight for that role. Otherwise frustrating but not distarous in an utterly predictable first home game & on sky double cursed sort of way.

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SuperMikey

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Chelsea played like a Winning team during them losses. If you can honestly say we looked like a side that could have won today, and looked like we were better than Plymouth then I will accept this post.

 

We completely dominated them in the first half, but lost our way in the second. It's the first game of the season, we never really start well. With Rickie back in the team for MK Dons on Saturday, we can expect a win then.

Plymouth were obviously going to go out 100% in the second half to try and get a win in their first game of the season, it's just a shame that we didn't match them.

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supersonic

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We aren't fit enough, I belive saints have only played 4 or 5 pre season games, and it showed, we were a yard off the pace.

 

Hammond was god awful! a captain is supposed to lead the team but he went hiding, as did barnard.

 

Also I can't understand why we kept hoofing the ball long when we had barnard, connolly and puncheon??

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S-Clarke

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There was an odd atmosphere around the place today, excitement, anticipation....but also quite alot of apprehension. But here we go again, another long campaign and off to our usual slow starts.

 

The game it's self was pretty poor, in the first half we passed the ball well, played at a very high tempo and were camped in their half for the majority of it, but we really lacked a presence up front without Rickie. Connolly and Barnard tried their hardest, but Plymouth's defenders were beasts and as the game went on their defenders had our forwards sussed and we didn't really have the ability to change it.

 

I thought Dickson looked bright, a really really good left foot on him and some of his crossing in the first half was sublime - there was just no one on the end of it unfortunately.

 

The 2nd half started as it meant to go on unfortunately, their goal came from poor defensive play from us - they won a header when they shouldn't have, and then harding totally misjudged the bounce and summerfrield was the quickest to react. We really lacked urgency though, the tempo dropped and Plymouth came more into the game, this seemed to be more from us panicking and making the wrong decisions.

 

Lallana came on and looked bright, but as was with the rest of the game - we lacked that real presence up front and couldn't really change the game. The priority for Pardew has to be to bring pace and power into this team ASAP.

 

Overall i saw enough in the first half to suggest that with lambo playing, we'll win alot of games, plymouth weren't able to handle our movement at times - it's just a shame we didn't carry that on for the entire game.

 

It's always nice to start the season unbeaten, i'd have taken a draw - it gives you a platform, a defeat paints a different picture with an away game next and already that has become a must win for pardew.

 

He can't afford too many more of these results in the first 10 games, otherwise he'll be hanging by a thread.

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saint_bert

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Ok... today was brilliant and we will still win this league. Did you watch today? Dont believe the statistics... 7 "Shots" on target...? If only there was a stat for a 1/4 of a chance.

 

Today wasnt brilliant. But, a league was never won on day 1 of a season. Chill out ffs

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Gingeletiss

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I'm not going to look at all the replies here, as I'm sure half of them will be slagging of all and sundry, connected with the club. My point is, you should not be surprised by this result, I have followed Saints for 50 odd years, and we have a good track record of loosing the first game, and we're reknown for our slow starts.

 

So keep the faith eh chaps, a long way to go yet.

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SW11_Saint

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Ok... today was brilliant and we will still win this league. Did you watch today? Dont believe the statistics... 7 "Shots" on target...? If only there was a stat for a 1/4 of a chance.

Have to say you're overreacting. It's one game, it was disappointing, but it's not the end of the world.

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Perhaps it was good to get the "Barnard and Connolly can't play together" argument proved before the transfer window closes. This will prove to the powers that be that we need to spend some more.

 

I think Puncheon lacks something in the final third and he was obviously tiring so I can't understand why Lee Holmes didn't come on earlier - or Joseph Mills for that matter. I also agree that Dean Hammond is not an inspiring captain. Much as we complain about Paul Wotton, I think he would have kicked butt out there and lifted the team.

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We aren't fit enough, I belive saints have only played 4 or 5 pre season games, and it showed, we were a yard off the pace.

 

I agree, very surprised at how little we have played pre-season and even more surprised at how, with the exception of Reading, we did not step up the level of opposition as we got closer to the season start.

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SW11_Saint

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There was an odd atmosphere around the place today, excitement, anticipation....but also quite alot of apprehension. But here we go again, another long campaign and off to our usual slow starts.

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It's always nice to start the season unbeaten, i'd have taken a draw - it gives you a platform, a defeat paints a different picture with an away game next and already that has become a must win for pardew.

 

He can't afford too many more of these results in the first 10 games, otherwise he'll be hanging by a thread.

Good, well balanced, assessment.

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No penetration, creativity or inspiration - still in saying that we still pist all over them. Alan and the boys just need to switch to the 'actual' league gear as pre-season is over.

 

We did pist all over them, but without getting them wet. So early in the season that this means nothing. A couple of things that remain from last season, no discipline / structure in the team when things are not going well and the deficiencies we saw in midfield are still there.

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Nexstar

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Poor performance, lightweight midfield, Barnard not very good, Dickson even worse. Why didn't AP buy a proper Leader, someone who can motivate on the pitch. Nothing seems to have got better from last season, in fact it looked worse.

 

What game were you watching?!

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itchen_dan

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Don't want to dwell on this result but we need to be a little more clinical in the box.

 

Felt we looked fantastic (Dickson in particular) in the first half but yet again were slow starting the 2nd half.

 

We had the chances but had no one to finish them.

 

If we do the same week in week out, creating chances and getting crosses in, I wouldn't be surprised if we won the League. Lets put it behind us, get a couple more players in and look forward to Tuesday night.

 

Ps. as it stands we aren't bottom, therefore we are in a better position than we were last year after 1 game, and last year we got a draw on the opening day! Plenty of minutes to go yet this season...

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Some people really do not get it. Because for the last 10 years we have won **** all games at the start of the season makes it alright?!

 

Yeah it's alright typical saints it's traditional for us to lose the 1st game of the season, it's traditional that we don't win on sky.

 

That's ok then.

 

It's also traditional that we don't win promotions. Oops

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Saints Warrior

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Too much fancy football and no end product. The aim of the game is to score goals. It looked to me as though it was last game of season and we just needed to avoid losing by 5 goals to stay 6th from bottom. We nee hight up front, a winger and some one in midfield. Also a game plan would help. The players couldnt handle the big game pressure of being title favs. No worries as they have just shown the rest of the leaque how poor Saints can be if you come to SMS organised, fit and just play in the second half. All in all the first half may have been good for passing but if we cant score without Lambert in the first half against what was a cr*p team then thats a big question for the club to answer to the fans. First half 6/10 second 1/10. Title odds 40/1. 2nd 33/1 3rd 25/1

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S-Clarke

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Harding shouldve prevented their goal imo.

 

He was too slow off the mark, if he was just 1 yard sharper at that moment he'd have blocked the shot. Suprised really, he was a total steady-eady last year and you rarely got those sort of lapses from him.

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Clifford Nelson

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I'm not going to slag off anybody, because I think they all tried very hard, and for the first 45 it was really entertaining. The only one I have a questionmark over is Jaidi who looks very immobile, which he also did against Reading, and to be honest most of last season. A feeling that age and injuries have caught up with him, It wasn't surprising that the key mistake which unsettled us was his.

 

Otherwise it even looked that there were a new kind of inventiveness about the place, quite often from Dickson and Butterfield, together with some quick thinking from Connolly. But after the game I'm thinking back and realise that apart from all the entertainment it didn't actually look like we were going to score. The edge was missing, and didn't arrive until Lallana arrived on the pitch. Without him and Lambert we don't look like we can produce real goal chances.

 

The bench also looked average, apart from Lallana. There wasn't anybody there who looked a likely candidate for changing a game. The hole left after Waigo and Antonio is very large. What wouldn't it have been worth to put Waigo on and add some sharpness.

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