Heard it three times now.

[Pilchards]

Huddersfield had two great debuts today in Armfield and Garner....Why oh why did we not go for any of them as one is a great tackler in CM while the other was a good target man.

shame.

[Smirking_Saint]

Huddersfield had two great debuts today in Armfield and Garner....Why oh why did we not go for any of them as one is a great tackler in CM while the other was a good target man.

shame.

 

I can only hope Pards has better enforcements in store.

[doddisalegend]

2nd half our midfield was AWOL and exposed the back 4 on more than one occasion IMHO.

 

According to the match stats plymouth had one shot on target all game so I can't see how our back four where exposed that much. From where I was sitting Saints did most of the attacking in both halves plymouth offered nothing going forward.

[Chez]

According to the match stats plymouth had one shot on target all game so I can't see how our back four where exposed that much. From where I was sitting Saints did most of the attacking in both halves plymouth offered nothing going forward.

 

we did get a bit ragedy at the end and there was one crucial interception by Jaidi, when Fonte went walkabout, otherwise their striker would have had all day to score. Only to be expected when chasing the game.

[SFKA South Woodford]

to me I thought Puncheon did the bare minimum. He didn't get to the byeline once, hardly put a crsos in, beat his man only once and that was about it. Far too casual. Oh and he bottles tackles. I like him, he has real quality, but he needs to do more in games when we are on top and to really stamp his authority on the match. I thought he should have been subbed far far earlier. He is Pardews pet.

 

He, like all wingers (apart from one or two) are a bit hit and miss and he is going to be brilliant this season I'm sure. Maybe he needs a run on his natural wing now and then?

 

Agree with a lot of what you say there Chez, however do not agree that he is going to come good. Puncheon was poor today, and the 'frustration' that the previous poster mentioned, was actually his attitude, he lets his head drop far too easily and is spineless, he bottled at least two challenges where he would have come away with the ball had he shown more commitment. I don't want to see any of our players pulling out of challenges, and if they do, I want to see them out of the team and replaced by someone who is more committed.

 

I was also concerned by Pardews program notes, in which he makes no mention of signing further players and actually says he is happy with the squad we have. If that is really how he feels, then I would suggest that the bloke is losing the plot, we can all see the weaknesses in the squad, and if confirmation was needed, then surely today was it. We do not have any cutting edge without Lambert in the team and shows just how one dimensional we are. Just as some of us have been saying for the last three months.

 

Pardew pull your finger out of your arse, and get plugging the gaps in the squad!

[Give it to Ron]

I don't think there is one Saints fan that has disputed the fact that since the end of last season we knew we needed:

 

1. A backup striker for Lambert....or even one that could play with him...two big lumps can also work.

2. Pacey winger than can deliever...no good without the above though!

3. A ball winning, dominating midfielder in the Nicky Butt style.

 

Problem seems to be between Cortese and Pardew getting these in during pre-season.

[NickG]

I don't think there is one Saints fan that has disputed the fact that since the end of last season we knew we needed:

 

1. A backup striker for Lambert....or even one that could play with him...two big lumps can also work.

2. Pacey winger than can deliever...no good without the above though!

3. A ball winning, dominating midfielder in the Nicky Butt style.

 

Problem seems to be between Cortese and Pardew getting these in during pre-season.

 

that's been a big need for years now, thought Hammond would be it when we first signed him, but have been disappointed in him.

[Give it to Ron]

How can we expect to get promotion without a striker on the bench?

Its a 46 game season and to think we can get by with the injury prone Connolly, Lambert and Barnard is foolish.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

I don't think there is one Saints fan that has disputed the fact that since the end of last season we knew we needed:

 

1. A backup striker for Lambert....or even one that could play with him...two big lumps can also work.

2. Pacey winger than can deliever...no good without the above though!

3. A ball winning, dominating midfielder in the Nicky Butt style.

 

 

What a privilege it is to be present as history is being rewritten !

 

Take my word for it that Plenty on here told me that although a new player or two would be nice our squad was wonderful and we'd be fine anyway ....... the sound of that particular bird coming home to roost could be heard all over St Marys at the final whistle yesterday .

 

Your 3 player targets are 'spot on' by the way .

[Give it to Ron]

What a privilege it is to be present as history is being rewritten !

 

Take my word for it that Plenty on here told me that although a new player or two would be nice our squad was wonderful and we'd be fine anyway ....... the sound of that particular bird coming home to roost could be heard all over St Marys at the final whistle yesterday .

 

Your 3 player targets are 'spot on' by the way .

 

Really...to be honest I have not read that many but then again its hard to pick out amidst all the childish in fighting and trolls that infest this board.

Our squad is not that good in depth or quality and needs strengthening badly and TBH if we are waiting for the Prem players to be loaned it maybe too late as Pardew may be gone.

Lambert won't be fit for Tuesday and if he is injured then he shouldn't be risked for a a cup game that is not our main goal this season so same forwards and same issue in th enext game.

The Cherries will be a tough game and MK Dons away won't be easy either.

Competition for places is good...how many players actually have to fight for their place?

Our bench was lacking in quality yesterday..Lallana apart so why haven't we recruited the players we so obviously have needed?

[dubai_phil]

I don't think there is one Saints fan that has disputed the fact that since the end of last season we knew we needed:

 

1. A backup striker for Lambert....or even one that could play with him...two big lumps can also work.

2. Pacey winger than can deliever...no good without the above though!

3. A ball winning, dominating midfielder in the Nicky Butt style.

 

Problem seems to be between Cortese and Pardew getting these in during pre-season.

 

 

I know (many) real uberfans don't go to friendlies and so won't have read the OFFICIAL CLUB STATEMENTS

 

Reading Programme Page three

 

The Programme

 

The Club has identified clear targets with the view of strengthening the side further and the people in charge know what they are doing. Fans can rest assured that any signings will be exclusively communicated on this website as soon as there is an announcement to be made

 

Reading Programme Page 9 AP's Notes

 

AP

 

I can assure you all that we are on the look out for two or three new players that will give us that extra little bit of depth

 

So in answer to some posts, the club HAS communicated with the fans and has told us they are working on the new signings. Sorry if both an official CLUB statement and an official AP statement doesn't fit the NC wants AP out so won't spend money theory

 

And finally

 

Kelvin Davies

Your support will be vital to us in the months ahead and we all have to unite to get what we want

[Give it to Ron]

I know (many) real uberfans don't go to friendlies and so won't have read the OFFICIAL CLUB STATEMENTS

 

Reading Programme Page three

 

 

 

Reading Programme Page 9 AP's Notes

 

 

 

So in answer to some posts, the club HAS communicated with the fans and has told us they are working on the new signings. Sorry if both an official CLUB statement and an official AP statement doesn't fit the NC wants AP out so won't spend money theory

 

And finally

 

Sorry am missing your point here...could be due to all the alcohol I drank trying to get over yesterday being an uber fan ST holder that I am.

Working on signings and getting them are 2 totally different thimgs...christ we have only had since May...but call me impatient if it suits.

Meanwhile lets continue throwing 3 points away.

[Windmill Arm 2]

Sorry am missing your point here...could be due to all the alcohol I drank trying to get over yesterday being an uber fan ST holder that I am.

Working on signings and getting them are 2 totally different thimgs...christ we have only had since May...but call me impatient if it suits.

Meanwhile lets continue throwing 3 points away.

 

What a spineless attitude, buckling after 1 game. Go and support Man U or Chelsea.

[miserableoldgit]

Sorry am missing your point here...could be due to all the alcohol I drank trying to get over yesterday being an uber fan ST holder that I am.

Working on signings and getting them are 2 totally different thimgs...christ we have only had since May...but call me impatient if it suits.

Meanwhile lets continue throwing 3 points away.

 

Bugger! I must have missed something. I thought that we had only played one game. Could somebody please let me have the results of the other game that we have lost please.

[Give it to Ron]

What a spineless attitude, buckling after 1 game. Go and support Man U or Chelsea.

 

What a pathetic comment "go and support"....shows how much you feel for this club if you believe there is a choice in which team you support.

I am not buckling at all I just want us to succeed and feel we are very close to getting it right but don't understand why we have wasted pre-season again.

If you cannot understand others points of views perhaps you should go on other forums.

[Give it to Ron]

Bugger! I must have missed something. I thought that we had only played one game. Could somebody please let me have the results of the other game that we have lost please.

 

Continue as in future.....try reading what written before jumping. Its my belief that if we continue with that forward line we will lose more points

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

Our squad is not that good in depth or quality and needs strengthening badly and TBH if we are waiting for the Prem players to be loaned it maybe too late as Pardew may be gone.

Lambert won't be fit for Tuesday and if he is injured then he shouldn't be risked for a a cup game that is not our main goal this season so same forwards and same issue in th enext game.

The Cherries will be a tough game and MK Dons away won't be easy either.

Competition for places is good...how many players actually have to fight for their place?

Our bench was lacking in quality yesterday..Lallana apart so why haven't we recruited the players we so obviously have needed?

 

That's a question there is no answer to at the moment - it may be that our player budget has been reached already or quite possibly we've repeated the time honoured error of underestimating the opposition - we may have been listening to our own propaganda too much . Whatever the reason if the club are going to judge the manager on results then its only fair they give him a squad that not only has a quality first XI (when they are all fit) but also the strength in depth needed to archive the target the club demand . I'll echo what Churchill said to Roosevelt "Give us the tools and we'll do the job" .

 

As it happens I hope and believe that reinforcements are indeed on their way - sooner rather than later would be nice .

[miserableoldgit]

Continue as in future.....try reading what written before jumping. Its my belief that if we continue with that forward line we will lose more points

So, in your opinion, we are going to continue losing games. You have made this judgement after one game where we were very good for the first 45 and awful in the second.

So doom and gloom after 45 mins of a game. Did you have this feeling that we were going to be continuing to throw 3 points away at half-time? Do you honestly think that AP felt that his pre-season was wasted? When did we buy most of our players last year? After the season started, as most clubs did. Anyway Private Frazer, I`m off to enjoy my Sunday and look forward to watching Saint again on Tuesday!

[countysaint]

I logged on to this thread because I thought maybe something positive was happening with the Antonio situation.

The last page has been nothing but an ego trip to see how many more posts GITR can add to his collection!!!!

CAN WE STICK TO THE DEBATE and not descend into childish backbiting EVERY bloody thread????????

Thank you.

[Andy_Porter]

I don't think there is one Saints fan that has disputed the fact that since the end of last season we knew we needed:

 

1. A backup striker for Lambert....or even one that could play with him...two big lumps can also work.

2. Pacey winger than can deliever...no good without the above though!

3. A ball winning, dominating midfielder in the Nicky Butt style.

 

Problem seems to be between Cortese and Pardew getting these in during pre-season.

 

I'm pretty sure at the end of the season it was fairly obvious our main concern was at right back.

 

Finding a pacey winger who can deliver is hard enough in the premiership, let alone finding one who will be happy to sit on the bench in Leage One.

 

I'm not sure why so many feel we need this dominating holding midfielder to break teams up, I can't remember many games where the opposition have dominated possesion and we've struggled to get the ball. It's usually games like yesterday where we had all the ball just couldn't break teams down. I'd rather we went out and signed a goal scoring central midfielder rather than a holding player.

[View From The Top]

According to the match stats plymouth had one shot on target all game so I can't see how our back four where exposed that much. From where I was sitting Saints did most of the attacking in both halves plymouth offered nothing going forward.

 

2nd half the gap between the midfield and back four was alarming and if Plymouth had had a bit more composure and picked the right pass we would have lost by more.

[View From The Top]

I'm pretty sure at the end of the season it was fairly obvious our main concern was at right back.

 

Finding a pacey winger who can deliver is hard enough in the premiership, let alone finding one who will be happy to sit on the bench in Leage One.

 

I'm not sure why so many feel we need this dominating holding midfielder to break teams up, I can't remember many games where the opposition have dominated possesion and we've struggled to get the ball. It's usually games like yesterday where we had all the ball just couldn't break teams down. I'd rather we went out and signed a goal scoring central midfielder rather than a holding player.

 

I'd sooner a top draw box to box CM but there isn't a decent one in L1 and it's a big ask getting a good NPC one to drop down a league.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

I'm pretty sure at the end of the season it was fairly obvious our main concern was at right back.

 

 

We let one average right back go (Jon Otsemobor) and another player who could cover that position (Lloyd James) and replaced them yesterday with a older player of roughly the same ability level (Danny Butterfield) . One can only hope that Frazier Richardson (when fit) lives up to his reputation or that position may still be a problem area .

 

Time will tell I suppose .

Edited 8 August, 2010 by CHAPEL END CHARLIE

[Andy_Porter]

We let one average right back go (Jon Otsemobor) and another player who could cover that position (Loyd James) and replaced them yesterday with a older player of roughly the same ability level (Danny Butterfield) . One can only hope that Frazier Richardson (when fit) lives up to his reputation or that position may still be a problem area .

 

Time will tell I suppose .

 

It was obviously unfortunate for Richardson to get injured so soon in to his Southampton career, from what i've read I'm sure he will be fine. Butterfield seemed to have a solid enough debut and brings the experience that Lloyd James lacks, altough I would have kept Lloyd James, surely he would be more usefull on the bench than Wotton.

 

I'd sooner a top draw box to box CM but there isn't a decent one in L1 and it's a big ask getting a good NPC one to drop down a league.

 

I think Hammond is as good as we will get as a box to box player, I'd like to see us play Schneiderlin deep as our most defensive midfeilder with a genuine attacking midfielder alongside him who just wants to get into the box and score goals.

 

2nd half the gap between the midfield and back four was alarming and if Plymouth had had a bit more composure and picked the right pass we would have lost by more.

 

It's to be expected when you're pushing men forward and chasing a game.

[dubai_phil]

Sorry am missing your point here...could be due to all the alcohol I drank trying to get over yesterday being an uber fan ST holder that I am.

Working on signings and getting them are 2 totally different thimgs...christ we have only had since May...but call me impatient if it suits.

Meanwhile lets continue throwing 3 points away.

 

We are doomed we threw 3 points away same as Borough, Norwich & Reading. Didn't we sort of do that last year and the year before and the ....

 

Of course it is only Saints that haven't done the bleedin' obvious in the close season.

 

I note that Liverpool needed a striker as cover/support for Torres all of last season. I assume they haven't bothered and have failed to attract someone.

 

Let's turn this around then.

 

Who do you propose to sign as cover for Lambert? Will that be Antonio?

 

Would you play Barnard or Connolly alongside RL every week or the new guy? Hell, we rejoiced when Connolly signed an extension - are we happy he is benched every week?

 

CM is a different problem, Hammond had a good season last year at this level, Morgan IS getting better and more consistent, but still shows that an older head is needed for consistency in CM so the consensus is to get a better player than Hammond or Morgan.

 

Who? Many have castigated Hammond for missing two headers yesterday - was keeping Gillett the answer? lol he wouldn't have reached those crosses with a step ladder.

 

What all round attributes does FM need for that position - pace, tackling, leadership, heading, experience?

 

We rejoiced when we signed Richardson and Dickson also being highly rated at this level and Butterfield was signed as a high quality experienced cover.

 

The fact is that our first team was very good last season and we had options on the bench. Where did those options come from? Loans.

 

Ask Andrew Surman about the wisdom of making a move to a "bigger club" as cover, the type of player who'd settle for that cover role is another Paul Wotton. We have no idea who we are after, we simply know we are after someone. Targets was the word they used so they know WHO they are after, maybe their clubs are waiting on getting their replacements in.

 

Yes I believe that we SHOULD have had the full new squad ready weeks ago, but then we have a pretty settled first team this season and are only likely to have one or two new players to "fit in" as opposed to the wholsesale changes last year. I wouldn't have waited to see what sort of player we actually needed either, but wiser heads are at it and NC & AP and the scouting team have a pretty fecking good tracking record so far

[View From The Top]

I think Hammond is as good as we will get as a box to box player, I'd like to see us play Schneiderlin deep as our most defensive midfeilder with a genuine attacking midfielder alongside him who just wants to get into the box and score goals.

 

I'd be more than happy with that scenario.

 

 

 

It's to be expected when you're pushing men forward and chasing a game.

 

I thought we were brutally exposed at times before we really started chasing. The two central midfielders were going AWOL and it left the two CBs vunerable.

 

4-4-2 just doesn't work IMHO.

[Roger]

It was obvious yesterday that hammond aint good enough. Not technically good enough, which is what ap said end of last season. Morgan and punch to me werent fully fit yesterday and tired towards the end. We need another right wingre like antonio, a big centre forward, was embarassing with the midgets upfront and another centre midfielder. Then hammond would be an okay stand in as opposed to wotton who isnt good enought to start imo. Also, people near me always moan at lambert. WAKE UP the guy is class and without him we are stuffed. I love the guy, he can head, score goals, set up goals, take great free kicks, is technically very good and has vision. RICKY LAMBERT SOUTHAMPTONS GOAL MACHINE!

[SaintRichmond]

What a spineless attitude, buckling after 1 game. Go and support Man U or Chelsea.

 

....... who have Managers that can adapt tactics, and do not lose to defence minded Teams

 

"Spineless" ?? NO Realistic ?? Yes

 

We were Poor, for the SAME reasons as last year... Pardew does NOT know what tactics to adopt against Teams that pack their defence

 

Cortese should do a Bryan Gunn on him

 

It did not do Norwich any harm did it ???

[musesaint]

Does this fred now have any connection with the original post?

[Windmill Arm 2]

....... who have Managers that can adapt tactics, and do not lose to defence minded Teams

 

"Spineless" ?? NO Realistic ?? Yes

 

We were Poor, for the SAME reasons as last year... Pardew does NOT know what tactics to adopt against Teams that pack their defence

 

Cortese should do a Bryan Gunn on him

 

It did not do Norwich any harm did it ???

 

You poor hysterical tart.

[Andy_Porter]

....... who have Managers that can adapt tactics, and do not lose to defence minded Teams

 

"Spineless" ?? NO Realistic ?? Yes

 

We were Poor, for the SAME reasons as last year... Pardew does NOT know what tactics to adopt against Teams that pack their defence

 

Cortese should do a Bryan Gunn on him

 

It did not do Norwich any harm did it ???

 

We would have had three points if Hammond could score with his head, lets not go laying all the blame at Pardews door. Ridiculous post.

[SaintRichmond]

You poor hysterical tart.

 

After you have gone to Specsavers, and can see things for what they ARE, and not what you THINK they are, then perhaps you too will rtealise that we are nowhere near as good as people like you think we are

[SaintRichmond]

We would have had three points if Hammond could score with his head, lets not go laying all the blame at Pardews door. Ridiculous post.

 

Sorry, I forgot, he's only the Manager. His Team does not play to his Instructions do they ??

 

Silly me

[Andy_Porter]

You tart, if you're not on the wind up then well you've probably got issues.

[NickG]

We let one average right back go (Jon Otsemobor) and another player who could cover that position (Lloyd James) and replaced them yesterday with a older player of roughly the same ability level (Danny Butterfield) . One can only hope that Frazier Richardson (when fit) lives up to his reputation or that position may still be a problem area .

 

Time will tell I suppose .

 

you are joking?

 

just in case you aren't..

 

we have signed two RBs - I am sure no club in the division has more than two established first team level RBs.

 

One was the best RB in this division last year.

 

One was very highly rated for a team who were chasing play offs for much of the season in the division above us and played just about every game.

 

Any other team is this league would be happy to have one of those - we have both - still a problem area????? Bizarre.

[Nidger]

I'm pretty sure at the end of the season it was fairly obvious our main concern was at right back.

 

Finding a pacey winger who can deliver is hard enough in the premiership, let alone finding one who will be happy to sit on the bench in Leage One.

 

I'm not sure why so many feel we need this dominating holding midfielder to break teams up, I can't remember many games where the opposition have dominated possesion and we've struggled to get the ball. It's usually games like yesterday where we had all the ball just couldn't break teams down. I'd rather we went out and signed a goal scoring central midfielder rather than a holding player.

 

2 games that spring to mind from last season were the 2nd halfs against Norwich (JPT) and Swindon (CCL1) at home! These were easily the best 2 teams I saw play against Saints at SMS last season! You need a balance in midfield of 1 play maker and 1 ball winner to be a successful team IMO.

[View From The Top]

You tart, if you're not on the wind up then well you've probably got issues.

 

He's been anti-Pardew since the day he arrived so yesterday was no more than grist to his mill.

[Judge_B]

Sorry, I forgot, he's only the Manager. His Team does not play to his Instructions do they ??

 

Silly me

 

Pardon me for interjecting, are you saying that Pardew's instructions to Hammond were to screw any headers from inside the 18 yard box wide of goal?

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

you are joking?

 

just in case you aren't..

 

we have signed two RBs - I am sure no club in the division has more than two established first team level RBs.

 

One was the best RB in this division last year.

 

One was very highly rated for a team who were chasing play offs for much of the season in the division above us and played just about every game.

 

Any other team is this league would be happy to have one of those - we have both - still a problem area????? Bizarre.

 

If you really must continue to seek a conversation with me (as you are aware I've asked you to leave me alone - a request you have refused to respect) then I suppose I will have to employ my right of reply - although I've never found talking with you to be a particularly worthwhile experience in all honesty .

 

As for your points , such as they are :

 

1 - I don't really care where they come from .

2 - I don't care much what their past 'rep' is either .

3 - I call it as I see it .

 

From what I saw yesterday Danny Butterfield looked a competent , experienced , but hardly outstanding Right Back - rather like Otsemobor or Lloyd James for that matter . If you were watching him and thought you identified some kind of special player in front of you then all I can say is good for you . My initial opinion is what I said it is (I may well change my mind in future) but I must say that seemed the opinion of those around me as well .

[NickG]

I didn't think he was amazing, but steady, showed good decision making and a very good signing for this level.

[David Strover]

If you really must continue to seek a conversation with me (as you are aware I've asked you to leave me alone - a request you have refused to respect) then I suppose I will have to employ my right of reply - although I've never found talking with you to be a particularly worthwhile experience in all honesty .

 

As for your points , such as they are :

 

1 - I don't really care where they come from .

2 - I don't care much what their past 'rep' is either .

3 - I call it as I see it .

 

From what I saw yesterday Danny Butterfield looked a competent , experienced , but hardly outstanding Right Back - rather like Otsemobor or Lloyd James for that matter . If you were watching him and thought you identified some kind of special player in front of you then all I can say is good for you . My initial opinion is what I said it is (I may well change my mind in future) but I must say that seemed the opinion of those around me as well .

 

After one game?!

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

After one game?!

 

That's a perfectly fair point , but I did say it was my "initial opinion" .

[Give it to Ron]

I logged on to this thread because I thought maybe something positive was happening with the Antonio situation.

The last page has been nothing but an ego trip to see how many more posts GITR can add to his collection!!!!

CAN WE STICK TO THE DEBATE and not descend into childish backbiting EVERY bloody thread????????

Thank you.

 

Childish backbiting and you then accuse me of having an ego....2,000 posts in 4 years...what a plum!!

 

Apologies to Chapel as least you had the decency to accept my views differed from yours without getting personal.

I was pleased at half-time with the way we played but very concerned that we had not scored after all that possession and felt we never would.

Hopefully Lambert won't miss many more games and give us that edge we missed yesterday but still want another big forward...shame we missed out on someone like Ben Burgess but maybe Rowan Vine woul be worth a shot.

[Smirking_Saint]

If you really must continue to seek a conversation with me (as you are aware I've asked you to leave me alone - a request you have refused to respect) then I suppose I will have to employ my right of reply - although I've never found talking with you to be a particularly worthwhile experience in all honesty .

 

As for your points , such as they are :

 

1 - I don't really care where they come from .

2 - I don't care much what their past 'rep' is either .

3 - I call it as I see it .

 

From what I saw yesterday Danny Butterfield looked a competent , experienced , but hardly outstanding Right Back - rather like Otsemobor or Lloyd James for that matter . If you were watching him and thought you identified some kind of special player in front of you then all I can say is good for you . My initial opinion is what I said it is (I may well change my mind in future) but I must say that seemed the opinion of those around me as well .

 

The only posts i have ever noticed of you is the one where you accused people of ignoring freedom of speech and now this of which i have highlighted above.

 

I really hope you do not carry on like this in real life, you really do sound like a bit of a pompous ars* TBH and IMO lack quite a deal of respect for your other man, especially like i said after standing on your soap box speaking about freedom of speech lol.

 

Butterfield looked very assured yesterday, tackled well, headed and generally competed well and got forward to support Puncheon when needed. I was very impressed with what is a very good signing at this level. To say he was at the same level as James or Otsemobor is somewhat laughable, especially after a single game.

[Turkish]

I'd be more than happy with that scenario.

 

 

 

 

 

I thought we were brutally exposed at times before we really started chasing. The two central midfielders were going AWOL and it left the two CBs vunerable.

 

4-4-2 just doesn't work IMHO.

 

I think 4-4-2 is a dated formation and the top clubs seem to be moving with the time and adapting. Personally i think we would be better off 'doing a Chelsea' and going 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 when attacking.

[Smirking_Saint]

I think 4-4-2 is a dated formation and the top clubs seem to be moving with the time and adapting. Personally i think we would be better off 'doing a Chelsea' and going 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 when attacking.

 

This

 

Thought we looked better playing it last season and think our players suit it down to the ground

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

The only posts i have ever noticed of you is the one where you accused people of ignoring freedom of speech and now this of which i have highlighted above.

 

I really hope you do not carry on like this in real life, you really do sound like a bit of a pompous ars* TBH and IMO lack quite a deal of respect for your other man, especially like i said after standing on your soap box speaking about freedom of speech lol.

 

 

You've really not very bright are you ?

 

There is of course no contradiction at all between defending the concept of freedom of speech and then preferring not to converse with someone you happen to habitually disagree with . Of course the value of your freedom of speech is compromised somewhat as you absolutely have nothing interesting or worthwhile to say in the first place .

[NickG]

The only posts i have ever noticed of you is the one where you accused people of ignoring freedom of speech and now this of which i have highlighted above.

 

I really hope you do not carry on like this in real life, you really do sound like a bit of a pompous ars* TBH and IMO lack quite a deal of respect for your other man, especially like i said after standing on your soap box speaking about freedom of speech lol.

 

Butterfield looked very assured yesterday, tackled well, headed and generally competed well and got forward to support Puncheon when needed. I was very impressed with what is a very good signing at this level. To say he was at the same level as James or Otsemobor is somewhat laughable, especially after a single game.

 

Thanks, but I prefer to argue the football points - although find him way of the mark on that but thats opinion!

[Thedelldays]

is "freedom of speech" and saints the new fashion

 

since when has it ever been a case of "freedom of speech" at saints..or even on here..?

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

is "freedom of speech" and saints the new fashion

 

since when has it ever been a case of "freedom of speech" at saints..or even on here..?

 

It was free , now it costs £5 .