Thedelldays Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 Considering it had been infracted and deleted before you hit "post", I look forward to your apology seriously, how many more times is he allowed to constantly abuse, threaten generally break most rules on this site and still post..? and please dont believe I am the only one complaining, you only have to look at various threads to see what many think about those sort of posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 seriously, how many more times is he allowed to constantly abuse, threaten generally break most rules on this site and still post..? and please dont believe I am the only one complaining, you only have to look at various threads to see what many think about those sort of posts And yet only one person took it upon themselves to report the post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 Of course not and that is not what I am saying. I am saying that he is no more fireproof than anyone else. Isn't he? he can tell you to f*ck right off if you get up his nose (ask Nick Illingsworth or the Echo), to all intents and purposes Cortese runs the club as he sees fit, no shareholders,no creditors ,no bank pressure;Markus in his pocket and the supporters (in the main)will be happy as long as the results are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 And yet only one person took it upon themselves to report the post... Are you really saying you havent see it? I guess ostriches do stick their head in the sand. I can report his endless spamming and abuse if that helps, although, thank God, he does seem to have gone back to registered user and that should curtail him a bit. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 And yet only one person took it upon themselves to report the post... to be honest....(will be my last on this) I have raised the issue with you before..yet the abuse (not only at me) continued... I thought there would have been no point hitting the report icon.. anyway...enough imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 to be honest....(will be my last on this) I have raised the issue with you before..yet the abuse (not only at me) continued... I thought there would have been no point hitting the report icon.. anyway...enough imo Mr Benson Phillips has sent me (and I believe a few others) abusive PM's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 Are you really saying you havent see it? Believe it or not, unlike some posters on here, I'm not infatuated with what one particular member decides to write, preferring to read threads and attempt to ignore who is actually making the points. If I happen to see something that's not on, I'll deal with it. If I don't, the only way I can know about it is if someone reports it. I do have a day job, believe it or not, so I can't a) be on here all the time, and b) read every single post in every single thread. although, thank God, he does seem to have gone back to registered user and that should curtail him a bit. . I'm sure you'll be giving due praise to him for this voluntary act... I'll ignore the ostrich comment. You seem to have something of a problem with me, which I can't quite fathom out. Feel free to PM me if you would like to discuss, otherwise I'll consider this an end to the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 Believe it or not, unlike some posters on here, I'm not infatuated with what one particular member decides to write, preferring to read threads and attempt to ignore who is actually making the points. If I happen to see something that's not on, I'll deal with it. If I don't, the only way I can know about it is if someone reports it. I do have a day job, believe it or not, so I can't a) be on here all the time, and b) read every single post in every single thread. I'm sure you'll be giving due praise to him for this voluntary act... I'll ignore the ostrich comment. You seem to have something of a problem with me, which I can't quite fathom out. Feel free to PM me if you would like to discuss, otherwise I'll consider this an end to the matter. I too have asked a few times over the last few months to downgrade my membership to registered user.?????? WTF..???? matters not now, mine runs out on sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 3 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 3 August, 2010 You really need to grow up pat you sad and bitter *****! Do the moderators of this site allow such personal insults ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 seems lots of the kiddies are throwing their dummies out of the prams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 Four pages in and still no credible source or substantiation.....time to turn the key surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 3 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 3 August, 2010 If, indeed, he got one and isn't fishing for a reaction in typical Glasgow_Saint fashion!! I have not sent anyone a pm on here.. Glasgow_Saint must have been dreaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 Four pages in and still no credible source or substantiation.....time to turn the key surely? Oh I don't doubt Pat got all this from a source close to the old regime,goalkeeping branch, his lad is a pro-keeper with some club or other and he has ties with the old goalkeeping coaches at SFC,can't remeber the blokes name Malcolm somethingorother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 I just spoke to Luke James, who then spoke to Nigel Craddock and niether of them know anything about this, so i don't know where it comes from. And to be honest, and no disrespect to patred, but I believe that under the current management structure, who ever told him this is full of it and is yanking his chain, as I don't believe anyone would know what NC was upto to be honest. In a nutshell, NC would not have people in a position to know what he was upto, who would tell anyone outside the club. those that claim to know would be the very people kept in the dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 lol at DBP asking to be limited to 3 posts a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 lol at DBP asking to be limited to 3 posts a day. perhaps he's on therapy for TSW forum addiction:toppa: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 Can we lock this thread please, it's completely unsubstantiated and is just adding to the decline of the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 Isn't he? he can tell you to f*ck right off if you get up his nose (ask Nick Illingsworth or the Echo), to all intents and purposes Cortese runs the club as he sees fit, no shareholders,no creditors ,no bank pressure;Markus in his pocket and the supporters (in the main)will be happy as long as the results are good. Yes you are right. And as you say, if he delivers no one will worry about how he behaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 Yes you are right. And as you say, if he delivers no one will worry about how he behaves. same as most bankers really, when they were minting it for everyone and "subprime" wasn't even invented who gave a toss about what they did that no-one knew about. They got results, how didn't much matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailOB Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 Yes you are right. And as you say, if he delivers no one will worry about how he behaves. It is right that people are willing to question NC if/when something that could be perceived as being detrimental to the club has been done. We certainly do not need another M.Wilde fiasco BUT on this occassion - 4 pages in and there still seems to be no evidence that NC has done anything ! Think thats the main frustration with this thread and some of the others. By all means, question when there is something to question but too many people are happy to take the slightest 'rumour' as another stick to beat NC with in order to fit their own agendas. Any cerdibility that any of these posters may have/had, any real information/cause will be lost due to the constant sniping. Makes me think of the the boy that cried wolf at times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 It is right that people are willing to question NC if/when something that could be perceived as being detrimental to the club has been done. We certainly do not need another M.Wilde fiasco BUT on this occassion - 4 pages in and there still seems to be no evidence that NC has done anything ! Think thats the main frustration with this thread and some of the others. By all means, question when there is something to question but too many people are happy to take the slightest 'rumour' as another stick to beat NC with in order to fit their own agendas. Any cerdibility that any of these posters may have/had, any real information/cause will be lost due to the constant sniping. Makes me think of the the boy that cried wolf at times! but most of the anti-Cortese stuff springs from the same source...he cut out their STs on the never never, don't remeber SRS (alias DBP) having anything much to say about him before that, his main beef was with replica shirt wearing wimps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 3 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 3 August, 2010 I just spoke to Luke James, who then spoke to Nigel Craddock and niether of them know anything about this, so i don't know where it comes from. And to be honest, and no disrespect to patred, but I believe that under the current management structure, who ever told him this is full of it and is yanking his chain, as I don't believe anyone would know what NC was upto to be honest. In a nutshell, NC would not have people in a position to know what he was upto, who would tell anyone outside the club. those that claim to know would be the very people kept in the dark. I respect your opinion, but honestly after the phone call, I checked with 3 other clubs to see if there was such a letter in circulation. I was not going take this sort of flak on here just on one persons say so. There is, and it's not pulling any punches, nor using any diplomatic language, everyone of the clubs know exactly how and what NC thinks of them. I am trying not to express an opinion about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailOB Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 but most of the anti-Cortese stuff springs from the same source...he cut out their STs on the never never, don't remeber SRS (alias DBP) having anything much to say about him before that, his main beef was with replica shirt wearing wimps. SRS/DBP the seeker of truth and justice ! Have replied to his posts in the past along same lines. Always likes to counter argue that he is thinking of all fans when everyone else only thinks of themselves ! He reminds me at times of Rik Mayall in the young ones when he saw himself as the 'peoples poet'. SRS/DBP does sometimes have some good arguments but he is a poster that seems to be suffering from the 'anything but NC' philosophy at the moment. But won't say anymore on that subject as i'm only an occassional poster and seem to have avoided most of his abusive responses so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 I respect your opinion, but honestly after the phone call, I checked with 3 other clubs to see if there was such a letter in circulation. I was not going take this sort of flak on here just on one persons say so. There is, and it's not pulling any punches, nor using any diplomatic language, everyone of the clubs know exactly how and what NC thinks of them. I am trying not to express an opinion about it. Pat, are you sure that this is 'new news', and doesn't relate to the letter of a couple of months ago (as reported in the Echo way back)? Or is this a new letter, and a new chairman's meeting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 I respect your opinion, but honestly after the phone call, I checked with 3 other clubs to see if there was such a letter in circulation. I was not going take this sort of flak on here just on one persons say so. There is, and it's not pulling any punches, nor using any diplomatic language, everyone of the clubs know exactly how and what NC thinks of them. I am trying not to express an opinion about it. As I've said, if such a letter was in circulation then there is no way the press wouldn't have hold of it and no way NC wouldn't have responded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 I respect your opinion, but honestly after the phone call, I checked with 3 other clubs to see if there was such a letter in circulation. I was not going take this sort of flak on here just on one persons say so. There is, and it's not pulling any punches, nor using any diplomatic language, everyone of the clubs know exactly how and what NC thinks of them. I am trying not to express an opinion about it. Seriously though Pat, Nicola has obviously been reading this very forum, we all know that the other 73 clubs in the Football League are absolutely crap and frequently make a point of saying so in some way or other. He just let them know what the 2 million+ Saint's fans on this planet think of them. Good job Nicola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 (edited) I respect your opinion, but honestly after the phone call, I checked with 3 other clubs to see if there was such a letter in circulation. I was not going take this sort of flak on here just on one persons say so. There is, and it's not pulling any punches, nor using any diplomatic language, everyone of the clubs know exactly how and what NC thinks of them. I am trying not to express an opinion about it. But there are two who know nothing about it. So three know full well what is going on, yet two named sources know nothing. So who is right/wrong. I respect your opinion too, but I think someone is using you to further their own ends. Personnaly I think NC is an egotistical ****, prefessionally I think he is doing a good job. And this afternoon, I made a decision at 14:47 that will effect a large number of people and will upset a few of you as you trudge home tonight, late because of the traffic. Edited 3 August, 2010 by Secret Site Agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 3 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 3 August, 2010 Pat, are you sure that this is 'new news', and doesn't relate to the letter of a couple of months ago (as reported in the Echo way back)? Or is this a new letter, and a new chairman's meeting? The full letter arrived at the clubs mid July, along with the minutes of the FL Meeting held in June in Malta. Yes, the Echo did report on the letter in June but only the sanitized one sanctioned at the time in the press release. And that concentrated on parachute payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 But there are two who know nothing about it. So three know full well what is going on, yet two named sources know nothing. So who is right/wrong. I respect your opinion too, but I think someone is using you to further their own ends. Personnaly I think NC is an egotistical ****, prefessionally I think he is doing a good job. And this afternoon, I made a decision at 14:47 that will effect a large number of peopel and will upset a few of you as you trudge home tonight, late because of the traffic. Don't tell me that Northam Road and surrounding roads are closed because SMS is being demolished! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 No, Northam road is not going to be closed. But somewhere else is going to have lane closure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 No, Northam road is not going to be closed. But somewhere else is going to have lane closure. Oh, you are a tease! Go on, you know you want to tell us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 Pat, are you sure that this is 'new news', and doesn't relate to the letter of a couple of months ago (as reported in the Echo way back)? Or is this a new letter, and a new chairman's meeting? remember that, could be the case and bit of Chinese whispers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 Funny isn't it, if this was Lowe no one would question the validity of the thread, but because it is Cortese he gets backing. I don't know whether it is true or not, but given his track record it sounds about right. I also know from someone who works there that Cortese is not well liked at SFC and tends to rub people up the wrong way. It will be interesting to see if this is true. TBF I think Lowe would have won more friends if he had taken on the Premier League rather than massage his ego by getting himself cosily on the board. The FL chairmen were a flock of frightened sheep, voting in favour of the extended parachute payments, Cortese told them so and I fully support his stance on that. Whether or not, the original post is accurate I haven't a clue and to be honest, couldn't give a toss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 The full letter arrived at the clubs mid July, along with the minutes of the FL Meeting held in June in Malta. Yes, the Echo did report on the letter in June but only the sanitized one sanctioned at the time in the press release. And that concentrated on parachute payments. So what you are saying is, and I realise I'm paraphrasing and may have this wrong, but the meeting you refer to was a couple of months ago (and we all knew about it), the letter was from the same time (and we all supported the content re. the parachute payments), players have magically been signed from other clubs (suggesting there is no rift between SFC and the rest of the footballing world) yet somehow this is newsworthy and required a cryptic opening post which implied that the 'news' contained within was actually new and not a rehash of something we already knew and should be called 'olds' not 'news'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 I wish it were true, I quite like the "us against the world" mentality. Plus the FL are a bunch of c*nts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 So what you are saying is, and I realise I'm paraphrasing and may have this wrong, but the meeting you refer to was a couple of months ago (and we all knew about it), the letter was from the same time (and we all supported the content re. the parachute payments), players have magically been signed from other clubs (suggesting there is no rift between SFC and the rest of the footballing world) yet somehow this is newsworthy and required a cryptic opening post which implied that the 'news' contained within was actually new and not a rehash of something we already knew and should be called 'olds' not 'news'? is this another "I know the real truth" but actually no fact thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 So what you are saying is, and I realise I'm paraphrasing and may have this wrong, but the meeting you refer to was a couple of months ago (and we all knew about it), the letter was from the same time (and we all supported the content re. the parachute payments), players have magically been signed from other clubs (suggesting there is no rift between SFC and the rest of the footballing world) yet somehow this is newsworthy and required a cryptic opening post which implied that the 'news' contained within was actually new and not a rehash of something we already knew and should be called 'olds' not 'news'? Crumbs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 Oh, you are a tease! Go on, you know you want to tell us. Winchester Rd, north bound closed just after the roundabout from 9pm I think. Nearly crashed into the sodding barriers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 What a load of sh*te Old news ..rehashed Can't believe the mods are allowing this "Mother of All Sh*te" thread to exist for 4 pages Kill it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 And yet only one person took it upon themselves to report the post... You mods need to decide how to manage the reporting of posts. I used to occasionally report OTT abuse, then one of your ranks decided to let it slip on here that I reported a post, and since then its just been another thing to abuse me about; "Alpine goes crying to the mods". I dont bother anymore. One, I dont know if any attention is paid, since I quite often feel I am fair game on here, and two it gets disclosed to the community anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 I have not sent anyone a pm on here.. except Glasgow_Saint - he is the only one I can trust Thank You 44! I trust you too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 there you go MODS...yet ANOTHER bit of abuse.. hey, guess when it is 'mates' dishing it out...you turn the other cheek....and I have not even said anything to him bravo on the moderation of this site... Do you go running to the captain when someone steals your dairylea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 Alpine is right I used to occasionally report OTT abuse He reported me once and I got infracted (I think it was him might have been stanley though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintkiptanui Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 I hope fans from other clubs don' t come on here, how gay would you all look?? Benders the lot of yeh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 Alpine is right I used to occasionally report OTT abuse He reported me once and I got infracted (I think it was him might have been stanley though) How do you know it was me ? I actually dont remember ever reporting to you (I may be wrong) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 Do you go running to the captain when someone steals your dairylea? You not got some drinking and making a fool of yourself to do Dune ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 My take on this is that even if it is true it doesn't bother me. How Cortese intereacts with rival clubs is of no consequence as we've got the money and that does the talking. I only have an issue with how he deals with SFC fans and our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 You not got some drinking and making a fool of yourself to do Dune ? I don't know what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 3 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 3 August, 2010 So what you are saying is, and I realise I'm paraphrasing and may have this wrong, but the meeting you refer to was a couple of months ago (and we all knew about it), the letter was from the same time (and we all supported the content re. the parachute payments), players have magically been signed from other clubs (suggesting there is no rift between SFC and the rest of the footballing world) yet somehow this is newsworthy and required a cryptic opening post which implied that the 'news' contained within was actually new and not a rehash of something we already knew and should be called 'olds' not 'news'? You misunderstand, the information on the letter was incomplete in June, I used the word sanitized. Since then (at end of July to be precise. last week) a full copy has been available to all the other member clubs. Who are these magical signings anyhow, do you mean all the players who were out of contract with their clubs? Have we actually bought someone from a club that had a current contract in this window ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 3 August, 2010 Share Posted 3 August, 2010 Possibly not. I did say, "may have this wrong". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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