only one absent from the FL Chairmans meeting

[sambosa75]

On the old Saints List Lowe was a hate figure from the time of the reverse takeover Nick. He was taking flak before the Final and after, not just when we were "crap."

 

I'm sorry but I know thats rubbish. I remember being in a rather large pub in Cardiff before the final and Rupert Lowe came on the TV for an interview and drew a massive cheer from the fans.

 

There were a good couple of years when him and WGS provided a bit of a double act and he was popular with the fans and media.

[Glasgow_Saint]

I had a very long telephone call from someone I know to be trustworthy at the club.

I will not divulge his/her name, there are a lot of very frightened people there ATM.

I did ring 3 other clubs and each one confirmed they had had a letter from the Football League regarding SFC refusal to attend the meeting.

Some of the comments were not very complimentary about our chairman and club.

 

I am sure that someone from the press will take this up soon.

 

Thank You Patred44 for the PM

[OldNick]

Thank You Patred44 for the PM

 

surely you could have replied with your thanks by a PM

[Big Bad Bob]

Thank You Patred44 for the PM

 

surely you could have replied with your thanks by a PM

 

If, indeed, he got one and isn't fishing for a reaction in typical Glasgow_Saint fashion!!

[Deppo]

Something sinister is going on

[Scudamore]

Something sinister is going on

Hence why a lot of people are frightened

[eelpie]

For those who enjoy having tedious continuous pops against Nicola Cortese (and I'm not suggesting one shouldn't criticise him or anyone at the club) just remember, the day that he tires of us, we say goodbye to Marcus and his money.

 

Is that what you want?

 

For what it's worth it is good imho that one chairman has the courage to stand up and speak his mind to the closed cub of yes men that make up the FL. Have we forgotten what they did to us a couple of years ago?

[david in sweden]

Trouble is, so many people like to believe these unfounded rumours, that they now become part of his "track record".

 

its true ..if anyone writes anything convincingly enough, it get carried forward until a major news source ; Sky , BBC, Mail, Mirror picks up on it and embelishes it ..according to their preference for blazing headlines and before you know it ......so snd so is sacked and we've signed XYZ.

 

An old proverb I heard was ... A lie can travel around the world , whilst truth is still lacing up its shoes. How true !

[Saint_clark]

For those who enjoy having tedious continuous pops against Nicola Cortese (and I'm not suggesting one shouldn't criticise him or anyone at the club) just remember, the day that he tires of us, we say goodbye to Marcus and his money.

 

Is that what you want?

 

For what it's worth it is good imho that one chairman has the courage to stand up and speak his mind to the closed cub of yes men that make up the FL. Have we forgotten what they did to us a couple of years ago?

 

This is b*llocks, never has either Cortese or Liebherr said that when one leaves so will the other. All that was said was that Liebherr asked Cortese to stay on as CEO, as he wouldn't want to buy the club otherwise.

Do you really think that if Cortese left tomorrow, for whatever reason, Liebherr would put the club up for sale and not appoint someone else to run the club?

[Doctoroncall]

Something siniister is going on

 

Hence why a lot of people are frightened

 

You two are a great double act and certainly lighten the mood on here... thanks.

[Saint Charlie]

Something sinister is going on

 

For sure. I reckon maybe we are going to try and win the league and are doing well. Scary times, maybe we should do administration again. And to top it off we are unanimous favourites to win the league. Boooooo

[St Marco]

Another day, another NC bashing thread with zero evidence to support it.

 

What makes me laugh is that some of you actually believe it.

 

So there was a secret FL meeting but yet nobody from any of the 72 clubs or however many there are mention it? Not one single thing.

If there was to be a meeting and one chairman didn't turn up, we all know who this forum would report who that chairman was most likely to be.

 

Good work mods, bravo.

[lenwilkins]

I know that Pat has very good connections in the business so I don't doubt for a moment that what he is stating is correct.

 

What amazes me is the number of posters on here who treat Cortese as the third coming who can do no wrong.

 

You only had to listen to his Solent interview and his comments about the FL to get a feel for the way he conducts himself.

[yorkiesaint]

LOL at all those who think that if you can't get info on something through google then it can't be happening.

[Winchester Exile]

LOL at all those who think that if you can't get info on something through google then it can't be happening.

 

I think a major problem on this forum Yorkie is that no one seems to get any information from anywhere in order to substantiate this and other ridiculous rumours i.e. AP will be gone by Christmas no matter what - which was yesterday's fairy tale.

[BARCELONASAINT]

Watch Skysports today and the managers view of teams in league 1 and the players to watch. Every one of them call Southampton as the one to watch, players such as lambert and Lallana are the key players. lambert is only here because of Ml and Cortese, the reason Lallana hasn't moved on and is becoming a better and better player (12 from midfield last season), is because we don't need to sell him.

 

We are the most talked about club in this league for all the RIGHT reasons. Not one mention of NC, some mentions of ML, but it is all about the team and the football. We have a chance to see the best season since WGS, and some people around here have had their noses put out of joint.

 

I am a Saints supporter and I am proud to be so. I suggest all of those that are struggling with out new found optimism should watch the experts rather than talking to their cut adrift friends of the club and start to wake up and smell the roses! We are a force this season, this is because of ML and NC, nobody else, they did this, they made it posssible to have the likes of AP, Rickie, keeping morgan, Lallana and Kelvin in goal.

 

When Saturday comes along, if you can be bothered to go, listen for the cheers for the team, and the non-barracking of the Chairman.

 

Grow up, get a life and support the Saints (FFS)

 

The most sensible post of the day so far!!

[St Marco]

What amazes me is the number of posters on here who treat Cortese as the third coming who can do no wrong.

 

.

 

The problem is all the bashing is based off of rumour which in most cases has turned out to be false. If NC has done something wrong and it is fact then people will judge him on those things. As far as we know he is a very secrative guy. The odds that he will talk to someone who will betray him and run to tell someone who will spread it is very low.

 

The reality is these are not football rumours, they are not xyz is about to sign xyz. They are malicious attacks aimed at portraying someone in a certain light. This is actually ilegal. Society frowns upon people who go around making allegations at people without any evidence at all. The difference is because people are sitting behind a computer they have the anonymity that goes with that.

 

Now i don't know about you but i was brought up thinking if i am going to acuse someone of something bad then you should have something to support that acusation. The past few months nearly every report has had nothing to support it.

 

So it isn't about he could do no wrong, it is about there actually being some truth in what he is being acused of.

 

We have an old saying that goes "innocent until proven guilty". Just with a few of you on here it seems yours is "guilty until proven innocent".

[Ponty]

Also worth remembering that websites/posters are unlikely to be sued for libel for suggesting someone is nicer than they actually are without a shred of evidence to back it up.

[trousers]

LOL at all those who think that if you can't get info on something through google then it can't be happening.

 

I Googled "monkey" "shaven" "Benali" and "Trampoline net" and got what I wanted

[sadoldgit]

For those who enjoy having tedious continuous pops against Nicola Cortese (and I'm not suggesting one shouldn't criticise him or anyone at the club) just remember, the day that he tires of us, we say goodbye to Marcus and his money.

 

Is that what you want?

 

For what it's worth it is good imho that one chairman has the courage to stand up and speak his mind to the closed cub of yes men that make up the FL. Have we forgotten what they did to us a couple of years ago?

 

I think what we want is to know that the club is safe in the hands of the people who run it. We have had the Lowe saga raidly followed by the Wilde Bunch saga and I don't think it is too much to ask for a period of stability. If Cortese had come into the club and got on with his job quietly and effectively I doubt if these threads would spring up every day. The reason they do is because of the way Cortese has conducted himself so far. Someone called him Lowe with Money. The insecurity over the team manager's position continues to cause concern at a time when we should be pulling together as a club. What I'd like is a CEO who supports and back his manager and gets on quietly with the job of turning this club around. As for the FL. Cortese has been in football 5 minutes yet he now knows enough to stand alone and preach about the rights and wrongs of how it is run? Hmmm.

[sadoldgit]

The problem is all the bashing is based off of rumour which in most cases has turned out to be false. If NC has done something wrong and it is fact then people will judge him on those things. As far as we know he is a very secrative guy. The odds that he will talk to someone who will betray him and run to tell someone who will spread it is very low.

 

The reality is these are not football rumours, they are not xyz is about to sign xyz. They are malicious attacks aimed at portraying someone in a certain light. This is actually ilegal. Society frowns upon people who go around making allegations at people without any evidence at all. The difference is because people are sitting behind a computer they have the anonymity that goes with that.

 

Now i don't know about you but i was brought up thinking if i am going to acuse someone of something bad then you should have something to support that acusation. The past few months nearly every report has had nothing to support it.

 

So it isn't about he could do no wrong, it is about there actually being some truth in what he is being acused of.

 

We have an old saying that goes "innocent until proven guilty". Just with a few of you on here it seems yours is "guilty until proven innocent".

 

To be fair the same has happened with every other CEO, why should Mr Cortese be treated any differently?

[alpine_saint]

I think what we want is to know that the club is safe in the hands of the people who run it. We have had the Lowe saga raidly followed by the Wilde Bunch saga and I don't think it is too much to ask for a period of stability. If Cortese had come into the club and got on with his job quietly and effectively I doubt if these threads would spring up every day. The reason they do is because of the way Cortese has conducted himself so far. Someone called him Lowe with Money. The insecurity over the team manager's position continues to cause concern at a time when we should be pulling together as a club. What I'd like is a CEO who supports and back his manager and gets on quietly with the job of turning this club around. As for the FL. Cortese has been in football 5 minutes yet he now knows enough to stand alone and preach about the rights and wrongs of how it is run? Hmmm.

 

As far as I am concerned, he has done exactly that. He's made, what, 2 statements in the entire time he has been here.

 

He is perfectly entitled to have doubts about the manager he appointed if the said manager isnt achieving his targets.

[BARCELONASAINT]

As far as I am concerned, he has done exactly that. He's made, what, 2 statements in the entire time he has been here.

 

He is perfectly entitled to have doubts about the manager he appointed if the said manager isnt achieving his targets.

 

Bloody hell it's contagious, I agree with you Alps!

[sadoldgit]

As far as I am concerned, he has done exactly that. He's made, what, 2 statements in the entire time he has been here.

 

Yes Alps it is true that he doesn't go in much for long statements on the OS, but his actions often speak louder than words, and his lack of support for the manager is still very obvious IMHO.

[COMEONYOUREDS]

so is there any evidence of this latest rumour?

 

thought not

[Marsdinho]

I think what we want is to know that the club is safe in the hands of the people who run it. We have had the Lowe saga raidly followed by the Wilde Bunch saga and I don't think it is too much to ask for a period of stability. If Cortese had come into the club and got on with his job quietly and effectively I doubt if these threads would spring up every day. The reason they do is because of the way Cortese has conducted himself so far. Someone called him Lowe with Money. The insecurity over the team manager's position continues to cause concern at a time when we should be pulling together as a club. What I'd like is a CEO who supports and back his manager and gets on quietly with the job of turning this club around. As for the FL. Cortese has been in football 5 minutes yet he now knows enough to stand alone and preach about the rights and wrongs of how it is run? Hmmm.

 

Thats exactly what he IS doing, its a shame some people on here wont let him get on with it, and have to post conjecture....

[sadoldgit]

If there is any truth in the rumour about Cortese personally intervening and telling the announcer not to praise Pardew after the last game of the season, surely that is something that even the likes of Lowe would not have stooped to?

 

Of course it may not be true, but you do get the hint with NC that he is capabale of such a thing.

[sadoldgit]

Thats exactly what he IS doing, its a shame some people on here wont let him get on with it, and have to post conjecture....

 

It never stopped people conjecting about all of the other CEOs. What is so special about Cortese that makes him fireproof and the others not? Through his lack of verbal support for the manager we had a hiatus in the Echo which led to his less than fulsome support in a very odd statement. We know seemingly hve our CEO setting himself up as the Voice of Reason and having a pop at the football league. I think if he wanted to go about the business of getting SFC promoted quitely and without fuss he could.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

Well I believe it as I believe patred is very well connected in the professional game, for one reason or another.

 

Oh, and lol@people congratulating Cortese for slating the 71 other football chairman that he has to do business with. Maybe that could be a reason why transfers are slow this pre-season

 

Would you do business with someone who sent a stinky letter to your governing body slating you? I certainly wouldn't.

[Frank's cousin]

I know that Pat has very good connections in the business so I don't doubt for a moment that what he is stating is correct.

 

What amazes me is the number of posters on here who treat Cortese as the third coming who can do no wrong.

 

You only had to listen to his Solent interview and his comments about the FL to get a feel for the way he conducts himself.

 

 

Er no... there is no one who thinks Cortese can do no wrong - what we are disagreeing on is how revelvent it is. If he is assertive, demanding, ****es off staff, annoys AP, annoys the Echo and the FL, annoys the odd fan BUT does a bloody good job and delivers on his ambition of Premiership in 5 years based on sound financial stabilty and wise investment in infrastructure and with a youth policy that sees more home grown talent, then he will have my thanks and respect.

 

Would everybody be happy if he simply stated that their main concern was to keep everybody happy clappy, staff happy irrespective of how well we do, AP happy with no pressure, drank pints with the 'boys' and spent time in the media saying how great a club we were, whilst doing feck all about our progress, or simply buying the odd player to keep fans happy even though we could not afford it as gates dwindled due to lack of success?...er sorry forgot we had that under Wilde and Crouch.... despite their best intentions?

 

No we would not be happy. In fantasy land, lets say back in the old days of black and white footage, clubs were community, transfers were rarer, and local boys played for tehir local clubs and there was success spread around when a good crop came through together... that was first shattered by the hoolis in the late sixties and early seventies, and then again by the excesses of cash from Sky and the Premier league whose self interest has shafted the financial integrity of the league as well as the level playing field and competition.... now like it or not, right or wrong, that IS the situation and until it changes we we have but 2 choices... have a club fashioned on old fashioned principles and be resigne dto lower league status with maybe a gate of 10K (based on how rare it is for clubs to get promoted without being the supported financially), or recognise we need serious hard and focussed business decsionmaking to maximise our resources, build for teh future and have a strategy in place that will be ready for the challenges ahead...

 

Its not about NC and his personality or conduct, but about what the football environment has become... some cant accept it and thus seem unable to see past the 'business first is wrong' philosophy that was preachyed by Lowe and now NC. I simply dont understand why, if fans want success.

 

Remember, Despite Lowe's hiddeous demeanor in public and his apparent arrogance, when we had success of a kind, the 2003 season etc, that was WITHOUT the kind of financial stupidity and cheating that our neighbours down the road used, we forget that very quickly in the rush to condemn and its this constant and rapid condemnation whenever the authourity at teh club does something we dont like that I and many other find so juvenile... NC is bound to make mistakes, I dont necessarily 'like' some of the noises (if they can be believed) but I think its also important to recognise that he should be judged in 5 years based on where teh club is. He himself set those targets - he promised nothing about being happy clappy to get there, just that it woudl take wise financial management, clever investment and blloody hard graft from all and i am prepared to wait until see we the RESULTS befor I judge, not judge him on riumour and gossip or even truth about who he has ****ed off this week.... because its frankly irrelevent.

[sadoldgit]

You make a number of fair points FC, but if it is irrevelant for him why wasn't it so for the other CEOs, all who came in for a lot of grief through again was a lot of rumour and gossip a lot of the time. I do get the feeling that he is somewhat fireproof and don't see why he should be treated any differently to any of the others.

[Big Bad Bob]

You make a number of fair points FC, but if it is irrevelant for him why wasn't it so for the other CEOs, all who came in for a lot of grief through again was a lot of rumour and gossip a lot of the time. I do get the feeling that he is somewhat fireproof and don't see why he should be treated any differently to any of the others.

 

It's strange Bern, you defended RL to the hilt against rumours and conjecture citing the clubs success. Yet you seem quite happy to castiagte NC!

 

FWIW I beleiev that NC is not an overly nice man to work for, but some of the **** stirring that is going on seems to be the grumblings of a few disenfranchised souls.

 

People are saying it must be true because more than one person is saying it is so BUT all the rumours are coming from the rumour mill within SFC. We've had nothing in the media (save maybe the Echo) to coroborate such mutterings, if NC were as bad as he's made out to be don't you think it'd be all over the press.

 

I am not painting NC as the second coming I just don't GET why people seem so hell bent on pulling him off whatever pedestal he is on!

[keithd]

so the OP sticks a firework in the pram and legs it. havent heard from him nor any proof of his claims, so why hasnt this thread been deleted and shoved up his arris? he is a gayer

[buctootim]

if it is irrevelant for him why wasn't it so for the other CEOs, all who came in for a lot of grief through again was a lot of rumour and gossip a lot of the time. I do get the feeling that he is somewhat fireproof and don't see why he should be treated any differently to any of the others.

 

So because the previous 4 chairmen have been burned at the stake, its only fair to do the same to Cortese? mm good thinking.

[Give it to Ron]

You make a number of fair points FC, but if it is irrevelant for him why wasn't it so for the other CEOs, all who came in for a lot of grief through again was a lot of rumour and gossip a lot of the time. I do get the feeling that he is somewhat fireproof and don't see why he should be treated any differently to any of the others.

 

History.....perhaps also the fact that this CEO has invested via proxy some money into the club and not taken out as others before.

I haven't seen many Wilde broken promises or Leon's open mouth before thinking from Cortese yet.

No doubt these will come but it is still honeymoon period.....wait until Christmas and if we are not delivering I think you will see more then.

[St Marco]

So basically SOG

 

What you want is a guy in charge to come out every 5 mins to say what is true and what isn't?

 

You mention the CEO thing and your wrong. I bet if you read most fans forums for the other clubs very few will have a front page of threads attacking their chairman.

 

We are so used to attacking ours for stuff they have done over the years that we can't just stop doing it. Even when the guy in charge has done pretty much everything right.

 

As someone mentioned above, the vast majority of Saints fans see NC as a guy trying to do his best for this club. It seems to me some are just unhappy that people think like that. The people who think like that are not making threads praising NC, they are not Lowe luvies. They appreciate what the guy has done but are concentrating on the football side, getting excited for the new season.

 

I have been a Saints fan a longtime and right now this is only one of a handful pre-seasons i can remember where people are not excited about the following year. We had a good season last year, won a cup. We are bookies favourites to go up this time, our first season without the shadow of our past hanging over us. Only 4 days to go!

 

But people would rather talk about the chairman. And not just any talk, malicious rumour talk. Of which as far as we can see has zero evidence that it actually happened.

 

People need to stop creating these stories and start getting behind the team and the club. There is no reason to be all down and stuff, no reason to try and look for negatives. For the first time in a long long time we have a team,board,manager all pushing in the right direction. It is time the fans did the same thing. People need to get over their obsessions of creating drama for the sake of creating drama and just enjoy the football. Let the politics go, your be more happy for it trust me.

[Doctoroncall]

If there is any truth in the rumour about Cortese personally intervening and telling the announcer not to praise Pardew after the last game of the season, surely that is something that even the likes of Lowe would not have stooped to?

 

Of course it may not be true, but you do get the hint with NC that he is capabale of such a thing.

 

I recommend 'no smoke, no fire' by Dave Jones, a person who was accussed of a crime which he did not commit but many people thought he did based on conjecture and accusation.

Edited 3 August, 2010 by Doctoroncall
book title correction

[Secret Site Agent]

This is to each and every one of you, and it includes me, and to the thousands that suppoort Saints, both locally and around the world.

 

When all is said and done Nicola Corteze is what YOU deserve!!!!!!

He is what I DESERVE !!!!!!!

 

Think on that.

[Window Cleaner]

I really do wonder just how big a win we'll need on Saturday to put a stop to this incessant **** stirring that seems to be all the mode at SFC just now.

[Micky]

Hypothetically speaking, if the contributors to this thread all met in a pub to discuss this particulary issue, how long would it take for one to punch the other, and who would hit who..?

 

Ohhh and FWIW - I think that the validity of this thread is total and utter bollix

[stevegrant]

We've had nothing in the media (save maybe the Echo) to coroborate such mutterings, if NC were as bad as he's made out to be don't you think it'd be all over the press.

It's only the regional press (i.e. the Echo and Radio Solent) who would give a toss anyway, the nationals don't care what's going on down here right now.

[Marsdinho]

Anyone remember when Lowe was our chairman, you used to hear comments like..

 

"You dont hear about other teams chairmen as much as you do with Rupert"

 

or

 

"I couldnt even tell you the name of another teams chairman"

 

Yet here we are, desperate to get our chairman into the headlines...

[Big Bad Bob]

It's only the regional press (i.e. the Echo and Radio Solent) who would give a toss anyway, the nationals don't care what's going on down here right now.

 

Come on Steve, we're favourites to win League One, we've a history of unbalanced Chairmen.

 

Yet our current CEO is supposedly ****ing off the FL and ALL it's other Chairmen and it doesn't get one mention in the media outside of Hampshire's borders!

 

Don't you think that guy from the Mail, for one, would be splashing it all over?

Edited 3 August, 2010 by Big Bad Bob
can't type for ****

[once_bitterne]

Has everyone admitted yet that there was no meeting and no letter sent or is their some dogged straw clutching still going on?

[Saint George]

Watch Skysports today and the managers view of teams in league 1 and the players to watch. Every one of them call Southampton as the one to watch, players such as lambert and Lallana are the key players. lambert is only here because of Ml and Cortese, the reason Lallana hasn't moved on and is becoming a better and better player (12 from midfield last season), is because we don't need to sell him.

 

We are the most talked about club in this league for all the RIGHT reasons. Not one mention of NC, some mentions of ML, but it is all about the team and the football. We have a chance to see the best season since WGS, and some people around here have had their noses put out of joint.

 

I am a Saints supporter and I am proud to be so. I suggest all of those that are struggling with out new found optimism should watch the experts rather than talking to their cut adrift friends of the club and start to wake up and smell the roses! We are a force this season, this is because of ML and NC, nobody else, they did this, they made it posssible to have the likes of AP, Rickie, keeping morgan, Lallana and Kelvin in goal.

 

When Saturday comes along, if you can be bothered to go, listen for the cheers for the team, and the non-barracking of the Chairman.

 

Grow up, get a life and support the Saints (FFS)

 

Great post...

Unfortunately the class warriors, little people and attention seeking whore's, all found a voice during the Lowe Out era and became 'someone,' at least amongst their peers....The Club's perceived issue's gave them something to live for.......don't expect them to 'let go' any time soon...

 

What we're seeing now is the result of the liberal dose of **** Roach powder NC has spread around St Mary's.....He's flushing them out one by one and flushing them down the sewer where they belong.......no wonder they think it's something sinister

[SnailOB]

It's only the regional press (i.e. the Echo and Radio Solent) who would give a toss anyway, the nationals don't care what's going on down here right now.

 

Whay a poor response

The sensationalism of the OP stated that EVERY FL chairman was invited to a meeting and NC excluded himself and wrote nasty remarks about other members. NC is alleged to have p*ssed everybody off and a letter has been issued with his nasty remarks to all FL chairmen.

 

And you think that only the 'locals' would be interested and thats why there seems to be no hard evidence in the nationals.

 

seriously this forum is so agenda based recently its unbelieveable !

Edited 3 August, 2010 by SnailOB
correction of info taken from OP in post

[sadoldgit]

So because the previous 4 chairmen have been burned at the stake, its only fair to do the same to Cortese? mm good thinking.

 

Of course not and that is not what I am saying. I am saying that he is no more fireproof than anyone else.

[sadoldgit]

So basically SOG

 

What you want is a guy in charge to come out every 5 mins to say what is true and what isn't?

 

You mention the CEO thing and your wrong. I bet if you read most fans forums for the other clubs very few will have a front page of threads attacking their chairman.

 

We are so used to attacking ours for stuff they have done over the years that we can't just stop doing it. Even when the guy in charge has done pretty much everything right.

 

As someone mentioned above, the vast majority of Saints fans see NC as a guy trying to do his best for this club. It seems to me some are just unhappy that people think like that. The people who think like that are not making threads praising NC, they are not Lowe luvies. They appreciate what the guy has done but are concentrating on the football side, getting excited for the new season.

 

I have been a Saints fan a longtime and right now this is only one of a handful pre-seasons i can remember where people are not excited about the following year. We had a good season last year, won a cup. We are bookies favourites to go up this time, our first season without the shadow of our past hanging over us. Only 4 days to go!

 

But people would rather talk about the chairman. And not just any talk, malicious rumour talk. Of which as far as we can see has zero evidence that it actually happened.

 

People need to stop creating these stories and start getting behind the team and the club. There is no reason to be all down and stuff, no reason to try and look for negatives. For the first time in a long long time we have a team,board,manager all pushing in the right direction. It is time the fans did the same thing. People need to get over their obsessions of creating drama for the sake of creating drama and just enjoy the football. Let the politics go, your be more happy for it trust me.

 

No I don't want him coming out and saying what is true and what is not true every 5 minutes, but I would be much happier if I felt that he was 100% behind the manager at the start of the season.

 

As for why we are spending so much time talking about him (apart from the lack of footbal), we have had a steady stream of CEOs who, for various reasons, caused a great deal of debate. It seems now that we have another.

 

But yes, roll on the season!

[Thedelldays]

Has Dulldays posted on this thread yet? If so it would be me punching that mincy little navy no-mark.

 

Would be nice if this forum understood that there can be 2 different viewpoints and just accept that some people think Cortese is a *****, not only that, but some people have reason to believe that Cortese is infact a *****.

 

Right, that's my 3 posts. Take care of yourself, and each other.

there you go MODS...yet ANOTHER bit of abuse..

 

hey, guess when it is 'mates' dishing it out...you turn the other cheek....and I have not even said anything to him

 

 

bravo on the moderation of this site...

[stevegrant]

there you go MODS...yet ANOTHER bit of abuse..

 

hey, guess when it is 'mates' dishing it out...you turn the other cheek....and I have not even said anything to him

 

 

bravo on the moderation of this site...

Considering it had been infracted and deleted before you hit "post", I look forward to your apology