A few rumours

[stu0x]

last home game of 09-10 NC told pre-match pitch announcer on no account praise AP

Absolute nonsense.

 

Whatever anyone thinks of Cortese, I think everyone has to admit he is fiercely business-focused and ruthless.

 

If he was going to bin Pardew, he would have done it. He's not the type to dither on pulling the trigger. So what possible reason would he have to give such a clear sign to the *pitch announcer*, of all people, and then not do so. It gains him nothing and potentially costs him a lot.

[hypochondriac]

Absolute nonsense.

 

Whatever anyone thinks of Cortese, I think everyone has to admit he is fiercely business-focused and ruthless.

 

If he was going to bin Pardew, he would have done it. He's not the type to dither on pulling the trigger. So what possible reason would he have to give such a clear sign to the *pitch announcer*, of all people, and then not do so. It gains him nothing and potentially costs him a lot.

 

It's not rubbish.

[Wes Tender]

I'll be glad when the football starts again. This Summer has been bizarre! We are in the best shape we have been in for years, have the best manager in the League (a PL level manager in L1 FFS), a squad that EVERY manager in the league would swap their for in a heartbeat, for the first time in recent times have NOT had to sell our best player(s) during the off-season and have no financial worries at all.

 

However, there is just the same amount of in-fighting, gloom and despondancy as when we were on the verges of going out of existance. I guess it's just a behaviour pattern some fans have been conditioned to for so long it now comes as second nature.

 

Also, I guess fans who are interested in the football side of supporting the club tend to post less over the Summer as there aren't any actual games but those 'Social' Fans who have little interest in football but like the getting drunk with their mates side to supporting the club tend to post about topics that are far more important to them than football, like 'communication'.

 

This is exactly where I am with this closed season with my opinion, O-B. Perhaps there are too many on here with too much time on their hands because of school/college/uni holidays and maybe these are the ones that lack respect for the opinions of others and the inability to be civil towards them. Who knows? As you say, in previous breaks between seasons recently, we have had to discuss the loss of the manager or star players, even changes of ownership or whether we would even exist. This has been the most settled period between seasons that I can ever remember and also the most optimistic recently in terms of hope and expectation for the coming season.

 

It has been boring in its lack of activity generally, thank God. Perhaps the Devil makes work for idle hands.

[Thedelldays]

so far....

 

installment plan will push away ST holders - hmmm no evidence

installment plan will mean 7k..or 9k...or 10k (forget which) ST holders - hmmmm does not look like it

pardew will be sacked - hmmm, signed the league 1 best RB...and then another from the CCC and looking to sign more quality..yeah, looks like he is going to be sacked

cortese is sacking people for fun - actually NO..he is wanting a full time doctor not a part time one..all part of building for the future etc

echo have been banned again - again..err NO

 

 

any danger of this silly season stopping now..?

[hypochondriac]

so far....

 

installment plan will push away ST holders - hmmm no evidence - Something said by Stu and no one else to my knowledge. Most people were annoyed at the club not giving any notice for this which is a valid complaint.

installment plan will mean 7k..or 9k...or 10k (forget which) ST holders - hmmmm does not look like it- again, something predicted by Stu but no one else.

pardew will be sacked - hmmm, signed the league 1 best RB...and then another from the CCC and looking to sign more quality..yeah, looks like he is going to be sacked Cortese was going to sack Pardew at the end of the season. I don't give a f*ck that you don't believe me because my source is impeccable.

cortese is sacking people for fun - actually NO..he is wanting a full time doctor not a part time one..all part of building for the future etc Didn't really hear that from anyone apart from Stu

echo have been banned again - again..err NO Didn't really hear that from anyone apart from Stu

 

 

any danger of this silly season stopping now..?

 

See above.

[View From The Top]

It's not rubbish.

 

I'm sorry, but some random posting it on a messageboard doesn't make it true.

[hypochondriac]

I'm sorry, but some random posting it on a messageboard doesn't make it true.

 

I don't care if you don't believe it. I'm glad that people are still able to post what they know to be true despite the abuse they receive. If you don't want to listen to it or think it is total rubbish then ignore it and allow others who do believe it to take on board what is said.

[hypochondriac]

Oh and clearly Duncan (and Steve Grant and Ron for that matter) are not just randoms are they.

[View From The Top]

Oh and clearly Duncan (and Steve Grant and Ron for that matter) are not just randoms are they.

 

I don't believe them either.

 

That AP is under real threat I've no doubt and have never thought otherwise. That NC is ruthless I know from people in financial circles that deal with him. That NC told the pitch announcer not to heap any praise on him I believe is b o l l o xs.

[hypochondriac]

I don't believe them either.

 

That AP is under real threat I've no doubt and have never thought otherwise. That NC is ruthless I know from people in financial circles that deal with him. That NC told the pitch announcer not to heap any praise on him I believe is b o l l o xs.

 

Fine then ignore it. You won't be satisfied unless the pitch announcer spoke to you in person (and even then you probably wouldn't believe it) so don't bother to comment. FWIW I have known about this for months because a separate source told me about it and Duncan confirmed it a few weeks back.

[70's Mike]

so far....

 

installment plan will push away ST holders - hmmm no evidence

installment plan will mean 7k..or 9k...or 10k (forget which) ST holders - hmmmm does not look like it

pardew will be sacked - hmmm, signed the league 1 best RB...and then another from the CCC and looking to sign more quality..yeah, looks like he is going to be sacked

cortese is sacking people for fun - actually NO..he is wanting a full time doctor not a part time one..all part of building for the future etc

echo have been banned again - again..err NO

 

 

any danger of this silly season stopping now..?

 

you forgot car parking increasing by £70 and pay machines now at both car parks.

 

does anyone know if you have to pay to visit shop during week

[Thedelldays]

you forgot car parking increasing by £70 and pay machines now at both car parks.

 

does anyone know if you have to pay to visit shop during week

yes..harsh..as is the booking fee...but that is what it is..you cant want to buy/keep players that are too good for this league and not pay for it I guess....

he took over a failed business that was almost non existant...no wonder he needs to re-dress that

 

I bet car park charging will come in at more ground in the future..

[View From The Top]

Fine then ignore it. You won't be satisfied unless the pitch announcer spoke to you in person (and even then you probably wouldn't believe it) so don't bother to comment. FWIW I have known about this for months because a separate source told me about it and Duncan confirmed it a few weeks back.

 

Don't spit your dummy out because not everyone believes you.

 

Dry your eyes and man up.

[scotty]

not a chance he will be sacked if we are top.someone is pulling your ___

 

whatever happened to wigan saint's bizarre but amusing youtube rants? has he done any new ones lately?

[hypochondriac]

Don't spit your dummy out because not everyone believes you.

 

Dry your eyes and man up.

 

Look I'll just accept that you consider every rumour and comment from posters on here that are not backed up with a verified source as total b*llocks. That way you don't have to continually repeat it on every thread. Deal?

[70's Mike]

yes..harsh..as is the booking fee...but that is what it is..you cant want to buy/keep players that are too good for this league and not pay for it I guess....

he took over a failed business that was almost non existant...no wonder he needs to re-dress that

 

I bet car park charging will come in at more ground in the future..

 

agreed

but i would like to think you get 20mins free to visit shop or ticket office during the week but have not seen any details of charges although my son droce past today and send there was a list of charges on wall as you drive in to car park by shop, but he did not bother to stop to read it

[Spudders]

agreed

but i would like to think you get 20mins free to visit shop or ticket office during the week but have not seen any details of charges although my son droce past today and send there was a list of charges on wall as you drive in to car park by shop, but he did not bother to stop to read it

 

I thought it had already been confirmed that there is an initial period where people can park for free if they are just popping to the megastore, picking up tickets, etc? Can't recall where I saw this though!

[70's Mike]

I thought it had already been confirmed that there is an initial period where people can park for free if they are just popping to the megastore, picking up tickets, etc? Can't recall where I saw this though!

 

so did i but i cannot find it either

[hypochondriac]

I thought it had already been confirmed that there is an initial period where people can park for free if they are just popping to the megastore, picking up tickets, etc? Can't recall where I saw this though!

 

Hope so. At least some common sense there.

[Spudders]

so did i but i cannot find it either

 

Been looking and can't find it either. Maybe it was pulled after Cortese heard it had been reported on here

[stu0x]

Look I'll just accept that you consider every rumour and comment from posters on here that are not backed up with a verified source as total b*llocks. That way you don't have to continually repeat it on every thread. Deal?

Hang on a second. I'm not one to condone personal abuse of posters or any of that nonsense. So just because there's been a bit of a (in my opinion entirely justified) backlash against some of the muck-throwing on this thread, you can't just use that an as automatic get-out against any legitimate criticism.

 

As far as I can tell, the assertation about the pitch announcer simply makes no sense. Cortese doesn't muck about. If he wants to fire Pardew, he fires him. He doesn't play stupid games with the pitch announcer. Likewise, he knows full well that the announcer is hardly going to keep his counsel. This is an internationally experienced lawyer and businessman.

 

So to just say "it happened" doesn't hold water. Either a) it didn't happen, b) it happened and we are wrong about Cortese, he is apparently some kind of business retard, or c)... (this is the option you fill in to support the assertation)

 

There we are, no abuse whatsoever. Are we able to have an adult discussion?

[sadoldgit]

Absolute nonsense.

 

Whatever anyone thinks of Cortese, I think everyone has to admit he is fiercely business-focused and ruthless.

 

If he was going to bin Pardew, he would have done it. He's not the type to dither on pulling the trigger. So what possible reason would he have to give such a clear sign to the *pitch announcer*, of all people, and then not do so. It gains him nothing and potentially costs him a lot.

 

He would have found it very difficult to sack Pardew after all of the support that he got at the end of the season. It obvioulsy got his back up as he had a pop at a few Saints Treasures. Time will tell.....

[Spudders]

As far as I can tell, the assertation about the pitch announcer simply makes no sense. Cortese doesn't muck about. If he wants to fire Pardew, he fires him. He doesn't play stupid games ..........

 

-Fall out with the local paper & ban them from St Mary's

-Make digs at ex players / board members within a statement he makes

 

Two examples where I'd say he does play stupid games (in my opinion)

[Thatchamsaint]

Ref Parking Charges - Just to confirm I saw it myself at the ground on Saturday, you get the first 30 minutes parking on Monday to Friday for free and then pay charges after that.

With those charges not applicable on Saturday home matches or after 4.30 p.m on nights of midweek home matches.

[LGTL]

I've always maintained that if i'm ever ITK, i'd reveal my source or keep my mouth shut. If the information is such that you can't reveal your souce (FF, Hypo), then you shouldn't be telling us anyway, as it's more than likely your source doesn't want you telling an internet forum. If this isn't the case, why not just tell us who they are? That's not saying I don't neccessarily believe you.

Edited 2 August, 2010 by LGTL

[Spudders]

Ref Parking Charges - Just to confirm I saw it myself at the ground on Saturday, you get the first 30 minutes parking on Monday to Friday for free and then pay charges after that.

With those charges not applicable on Saturday home matches or after 4.30 p.m on nights of midweek home matches.

 

Thanks for confirming

[hypochondriac]

-Fall out with the local paper & ban them from St Mary's

-Make digs at ex players / board members within a statement he makes

 

Two examples where I'd say he does play stupid games (in my opinion)

 

Thanks spudgun. Just suppose I had spoken to the pitch announcer who had told me about this. I can't prove that to anyone on here but I can pass on in good faith something which I know to be true because it came from an impeccable source. I'm not saying that happened BTW but that is the sort of thing.

[hypochondriac]

I've always maintained that if i'm ever ITK, i'd reveal my source or keep my mouth shut. If the information is such that you can't reveal your souce (FF, Hypo), then you shouldn't be telling us anyway, as it's more than likely your source doesn't want you telling an internet forum. If this isn't the case, why not just tell us who they are? That's not saying I don't neccessarily believe you.

 

Perhaps the source is happy for the info to be released but not for his or her identity to be known? Just a thought.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Perhaps the source is happy for the info to be released but not for his or her identity to be known? Just a thought.

 

Yes, and they give the knowledge knowing Duncan and that he will use that knowledge, with their permission, as and when suitable.

[scotty]

Perhaps the source is happy for the info to be released but not for his or her identity to be known? Just a thought.

 

have you considered a job in politics?

[Clifford Nelson]

Agree with the sentiment but not re: Alpine. QUOTE]

 

I didn't think that he was subtle, and he contributes to the general malaise, so I don't think that I made my point very well. It was the wall of vitriol that concerned me, and not an attempt to paint Alps out as being hard done by.

[hypochondriac]

Either you want no rumours whatsoever or you want info which can be passed on but without breaking confidences. I know what I prefer and I suggest if people just want the former that they leave "rumour" threads well alone.

[Clifford Nelson]

Interestingly Bert, Ron, Duncan, Andy and Frank have all come on today and said he same thing.

 

I noticed, Dave, it felt refreshing as I dipped in at lunchtime. However, I wonder if there is hope to clean up the forum or if we're all doomed. I think that my patience is thinner than the yaboo boys.

[Thedelldays]

glad I am no longer seen as one of the bad boys...lol

[Spudders]

Either you want no rumours whatsoever or you want info which can be passed on but without breaking confidences. I know what I prefer and I suggest if people just want the former that they leave "rumour" threads well alone.

 

Imagine how little there would have been to talk about over the past couple of months if no rumour or speculation was put forward on this forum! The lack of meaningful information that has come from the club over the summer would have left us with very little of real interest to discuss!

Edited 2 August, 2010 by Spudders
poor spelling

[S-Clarke]

A month ago I heard from an ex player with good connections that Marcus was looking to sell.

 

Just to bump this one back, this is one thing i'm not so sure about Duncan.

 

Nicola and Markus want the best for this football club, i have no reason to doubt that at all. They have invested money and time in planning the redevelopment here. All i've ever questioned is the way Nicola, in particular, has gone about certain aspects of the restructuring process.

 

I think this image on his company home page sum's the guy up

 

passionate and wanting to show off his new purchase. Doesn't really strike me as someone that's looking to sell off asap. (look at his tie). That image is new as well, only came on there within the last 4/5 months.

[alpine_saint]

Agree with the sentiment but not re: Alpine. It's just relentless posting of the same point over and over and you can't debate with him because he won't listen. He attacks a point you never made and then tries to make out how 'right' he was. Debate is great, but when people are desperate to make themselves look like they were right above anything else, it becomes pointless. He states the obvious, such as we need a few more players, then takes any development as evidence of being right, when no-one disagreed in the first place. What they don't like is his sheer delight in the negative, his refusal to listen to reason and understand just why his points are lost in this grumpy pantomine whinger image he's created for himself. All too often he attacks others for childish remarks, or making silly exagerrations, then he does exactly the same. Maybe he was more bearable when he argument was something I believed in, ie. Burley being a hinderence, but the needing more players situation isn't a debate, it's like saying we need to win more games or score more goals. But it's not even the silly non-point that's annoying, it's his endless desire to say 'I told you so', which is the most childish thing of all. I just have a hell of a lot more respect for the posters who'd rather be wrong and see saints do well. Because we're all wrong sometimes, but I like to think ultimately we want the same result.

 

Sorry Adrian, but this is full of half-truths. There are people on here who have said things like "If we dont get anyone else in, I wont be disappointed" so you are mis-representing the truth when you say everyone agrees and it is obvious for everyone to see.

 

I would rather be wrong and see Saints do well; how dare you suggest otherwise ? It is simply the case however that my head overrules my heart and I do not see it. And considering the huge amount of abuse, real personal abuse I receive for expressing my opinion, I think it is perfectly understandable if I sometimes (and it is only sometimes) point out the fact when I was right. And I have elsewhere tried to explain that the volume of my posting is partially due to the fact that I receive so many responses to me expressing my opinion, some good ones amongst all the angst and bile, I feel the need to respond to them.

[hypochondriac]

Sorry Adrian, but this is full of half-truths. There are people on here who have said things like "If we dont get anyone else in, I wont be disappointed" so you are mis-representing the truth when you say everyone agrees and it is obvious for everyone to see.

 

I would rather be wrong and see Saints do well; how dare you suggest otherwise ? It is simply the case however that my head overrules my heart and I do not see it. And considering the huge amount of abuse, real personal abuse I receive for expressing my opinion, I think it is perfectly understandable if I sometimes (and it is only sometimes) point out the fact when I was right. And I have elsewhere tried to explain that the volume of my posting is partially due to the fact that I receive so many responses to me expressing my opinion, some good ones amongst all the angst and bile, I feel the need to respond to them.

 

Where?

[alpine_saint]

Where?

 

On most threads relating to transfer activity since I started the first one at the beginning of June.

 

Oh, I am sure a few would deny it now we know how full the treatment table is.

[hypochondriac]

On most threads relating to transfer activity since I started the first one at the beginning of June.

 

Oh, I am sure a few would deny it now we know how full the treatment table is.

 

Have a little search and show? I definitely haven't seen that said (and I have read most of your threads for my sins.)

[alpine_saint]

Have a little search and show? I definitely haven't seen that said (and I have read most of your threads for my sins.)

 

I wasnt accusing you.

[hypochondriac]

I wasnt accusing you.

 

I didn't say you were. I just can't remember anyone saying that.

[ottery st mary]

I have tried to leave this forum on sooooo many occasions when peeps start beating me up and taking the p...

 

But cause I really luv you all...I can't stay away......I especially luv my Uncle derry, Duncan, weston and many others. AND you Badger...

 

I truly miss jonah and regret that he misunderstood my luv for Uncle Rupert. Come back jonah luv and miss you dear heart..

 

All of you luvverley Saints fans bring soooo much joy to me, on a daily basis that I can't get enough of this daily fix.....Even sum of the Pompey girlzzz aren't all bad..

 

The WUMs even give the odd me the odd little smile...

 

Let it be known that I especially luv Uncle Nic, Alan and especially that great big cuddly teddy bear Grandad Marcus.

 

If only we could get Woggy back and Ethel the tea lady ....Everything would be a whiter shade of white with a luvverley red sash...

 

SO all you boyzzz and girlzz lets get together make luv not war and support the mighty Saints.....Even if NC or Pards are not your cup of tea..

 

 

Just luv the forum, The mighty Saints, Dell Days and especially that little rascal Alpine..

 

 

We are going to win the league........Even though I don't really like journalists...deep down I luv the Echo......So here is to many more years of Saints reporting...You old rascall..Murray

[manji]

Yes, and they give the knowledge knowing Duncan and that he will use that knowledge, with their permission, as and when suitable.

Or they feed disinformation to FF knowing he is a blabbermouth with an agenda and will post it up.

[saint_stevo]

Do people who get offended by other, mostly random people not just need to lighten up a bit? Its an internet forum ffs.

 

Also, quit the attention seeking, Weston's 'i'll never post any info i have again' smacked of someone wanting everyone to beg him to continue, for example

Edited 2 August, 2010 by saint_stevo

[benjii]

Fine then ignore it. You won't be satisfied unless the pitch announcer spoke to you in person (and even then you probably wouldn't believe it) so don't bother to comment. FWIW I have known about this for months because a separate source told me about it and Duncan confirmed it a few weeks back.

 

Nah, still sounds like ******** to me.

[saintkiptanui]

Hypochondraic is going to be such a sad f*cker when he reaches his 20's.

[benjii]

Either you want no rumours whatsoever or you want info which can be passed on but without breaking confidences. I know what I prefer and I suggest if people just want the former that they leave "rumour" threads well alone.

 

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make?

 

People are entitled to post rumours and readers are entitled to point out that they don't believe them and they sound like ******** or, on the other hand say thanks, if they like.

 

This dummy spitting is bizarre. You can't expect to post things that don't make any sense, backing them up with allusions to some crusty old hasbeen "upstairs" and not expect people to question it.

[Weston Saint]

Do people who get offended by other, mostly random people not just need to lighten up a bit?

 

Weston's 'i'll never post any info i have again' smacked of someone wanting everyone to beg him to continue, for example

Far from it. Not only will I stick to it but I also disabled my PM at the same time today if you noticed.

[benjii]

Do people who get offended by other, mostly random people not just need to lighten up a bit? Its an internet forum ffs.

 

Also, quit the attention seeking, Weston's 'i'll never post any info i have again' smacked of someone wanting everyone to beg him to continue, for example

 

A bit like FF's "I'll never post a rumour again" thread.

 

EDIT - actually, I don't think he said that exactly; I think he said he'd never post again.

Edited 2 August, 2010 by benjii