A few rumours

[St Landrew]

It really hasn't. It's this forum. It's an absolute disgrace and some of the people who post on here are as absurd as those who regard conspiracy theories as gospel. The season hasn't even started yet but still this forum manages to spawn the same vitriolic rubbish that tarnishes all Saints fans. Only a small selection of the fanbase posts on this message board but I simply cannot stand the majority of them. From the pseudo-c*ckney morons that think they're part of some firm to those who constantly scrutinise every tiny detail to make it into a huge issue (i.e that post about interviews on the official site being "pro-Cortese"). It's ludicrous. I keep reading "the club is rotten to the core" - it's not the club, it's its crazy fanbase.

 

This forum used to be a laugh and you could get into some pretty good debates but not anymore. Not even when we're on the cusp of actually achieving something and having an owner and chairman most clubs in the country would be proud of.

 

And me too. Well said.

[georgeweahscousin]

It really hasn't. It's this forum. It's an absolute disgrace and some of the people who post on here are as absurd as those who regard conspiracy theories as gospel. The season hasn't even started yet but still this forum manages to spawn the same vitriolic rubbish that tarnishes all Saints fans. Only a small selection of the fanbase posts on this message board but I simply cannot stand the majority of them. From the pseudo-c*ckney morons that think they're part of some firm to those who constantly scrutinise every tiny detail to make it into a huge issue (i.e that post about interviews on the official site being "pro-Cortese"). It's ludicrous. I keep reading "the club is rotten to the core" - it's not the club, it's its crazy fanbase.

 

This forum used to be a laugh and you could get into some pretty good debates but not anymore. Not even when we're on the cusp of actually achieving something and having an owner and chairman most clubs in the country would be proud of.

 

Spot on.

[St Landrew]

moderate it better then

 

Unfortunately, people can spew the most appalling cr*p and get away with it, as long as they don't directly insult other members, or otherwise break forum rules. We allow them that freedom because this is a reasonably open forum. But we also hope for responsible, realistic opinions within the forums. It's why TMS was created, so that the crackpot sstuff could be put there.

[Norm]

It really hasn't. It's this forum. It's an absolute disgrace and some of the people who post on here are as absurd as those who regard conspiracy theories as gospel. The season hasn't even started yet but still this forum manages to spawn the same vitriolic rubbish that tarnishes all Saints fans. Only a small selection of the fanbase posts on this message board but I simply cannot stand the majority of them. From the pseudo-c*ckney morons that think they're part of some firm to those who constantly scrutinise every tiny detail to make it into a huge issue (i.e that post about interviews on the official site being "pro-Cortese"). It's ludicrous. I keep reading "the club is rotten to the core" - it's not the club, it's its crazy fanbase.

 

This forum used to be a laugh and you could get into some pretty good debates but not anymore. Not even when we're on the cusp of actually achieving something and having an owner and chairman most clubs in the country would be proud of.

 

 

Agree with you, Rory. Hence I rarely visit on here nowadays.

[Deano6]

Oh hi guys. Just logged on here to post some rumours I heard recently, and noticed this thread which seems like a good place to put it (apologies if it's been posted before):

 

- Papa Waigo may be coming back, apparently he's been in talks

 

- Bart is also in talks and hopes to be staying with us with a new contract

 

- AP and Cortese have a great working relationship and have developed a real rapport together. I've heard this from a couple of sources, but the funniest was my mum knows the tea lady at SMS who says she saw AP and NC walking towards each other down a corridor, and rather than just a polite nod to each other they - without speaking a word - gave each other a high five, and then followed through to hit hands again below (a "low 10" is it?) like they do in the volleyball scene in Top Gun. She and her coworkers were falling about laughing, even tho they weren't supposed to have seen it!

 

 

That's all I have, don't shoot me down if they don't end up coming to fruition, but each is from a good source.

[Phil the Saint]

It really hasn't. It's this forum. It's an absolute disgrace and some of the people who post on here are as absurd as those who regard conspiracy theories as gospel. The season hasn't even started yet but still this forum manages to spawn the same vitriolic rubbish that tarnishes all Saints fans. Only a small selection of the fanbase posts on this message board but I simply cannot stand the majority of them. From the pseudo-c*ckney morons that think they're part of some firm to those who constantly scrutinise every tiny detail to make it into a huge issue (i.e that post about interviews on the official site being "pro-Cortese"). It's ludicrous. I keep reading "the club is rotten to the core" - it's not the club, it's its crazy fanbase.

 

This forum used to be a laugh and you could get into some pretty good debates but not anymore. Not even when we're on the cusp of actually achieving something and having an owner and chairman most clubs in the country would be proud of.

 

Well said that man.

[Thedelldays]

Unfortunately, people can spew the most appalling cr*p and get away with it, as long as they don't directly insult other members, or otherwise break forum rules. We allow them that freedom because this is a reasonably open forum. But we also hope for responsible, realistic opinions within the forums. It's why TMS was created, so that the crackpot sstuff could be put there.

 

what, suggesting OUR chairman takes influence from mussolini..whilst posting homophobic crap on other forums here....dont give it about freedom of speech or we would not have infractions..

 

some of the allegations on here and threatening behaviour and general abuse are terrible AND it seems, pushing people away..!!

[aintforever]

It really hasn't. It's this forum. It's an absolute disgrace and some of the people who post on here are as absurd as those who regard conspiracy theories as gospel. The season hasn't even started yet but still this forum manages to spawn the same vitriolic rubbish that tarnishes all Saints fans. Only a small selection of the fanbase posts on this message board but I simply cannot stand the majority of them. From the pseudo-c*ckney morons that think they're part of some firm to those who constantly scrutinise every tiny detail to make it into a huge issue (i.e that post about interviews on the official site being "pro-Cortese"). It's ludicrous. I keep reading "the club is rotten to the core" - it's not the club, it's its crazy fanbase.

 

This forum used to be a laugh and you could get into some pretty good debates but not anymore. Not even when we're on the cusp of actually achieving something and having an owner and chairman most clubs in the country would be proud of.

 

Bit melodramatic - where do you keep reading "this club is rotten to the core"? I havn't read that since Lowe was here.

 

There is nothing wrong with posting a rumour you hear - good or bad.

 

There is nothing wrong with criticising decisions made by Cortese. It doesn't mean you are anti-Cortese, or that you are making a big issue out of anything. It just means you have a different point of view.

[Nexstar]

Oh hi guys. Just logged on here to post some rumours I heard recently, and noticed this thread which seems like a good place to put it (apologies if it's been posted before):

 

- Papa Waigo may be coming back, apparently he's been in talks

 

- Bart is also in talks and hopes to be staying with us with a new contract

 

- AP and Cortese have a great working relationship and have developed a real rapport together. I've heard this from a couple of sources, but the funniest was my mum knows the tea lady at SMS who says she saw AP and NC walking towards each other down a corridor, and rather than just a polite nod to each other they - without speaking a word - gave each other a high five, and then followed through to hit hands again below (a "low 10" is it?) like they do in the volleyball scene in Top Gun. She and her coworkers were falling about laughing, even tho they weren't supposed to have seen it!

 

 

That's all I have, don't shoot me down if they don't end up coming to fruition, but each is from a good source.

 

I would pay good money to see that!

[EastleighSoulBoy]

what, suggesting OUR chairman takes influence from mussolini..whilst posting homophobic crap on other forums here....dont give it about freedom of speech or we would not have infractions..

 

some of the allegations on here and threatening behaviour and general abuse are terrible AND it seems, pushing people away..!!

 

Now THAT I can believe!

[benjii]

just tell us now then...clearly you are being a mouthpiece for somoene else...quite frankly, I am amazed if many saints fans are not tired of this crap...for once..wouldnt it be good to see a little bit of our era without needing to know when the chairman (who ever it is) takes a crap?

 

Agreed.

 

"Informant" - FFS.

[Badger]

Another one of my wild thoughts on a lot of twaddle.....But I would hazard a guess that Big Mac has the ear of a few axe grinders ....

 

Fair point.

[Saint_Mabes]

Oh hi guys. Just logged on here to post some rumours I heard recently, and noticed this thread which seems like a good place to put it (apologies if it's been posted before):

 

- Papa Waigo may be coming back, apparently he's been in talks

 

- Bart is also in talks and hopes to be staying with us with a new contract

 

- AP and Cortese have a great working relationship and have developed a real rapport together. I've heard this from a couple of sources, but the funniest was my mum knows the tea lady at SMS who says she saw AP and NC walking towards each other down a corridor, and rather than just a polite nod to each other they - without speaking a word - gave each other a high five, and then followed through to hit hands again below (a "low 10" is it?) like they do in the volleyball scene in Top Gun. She and her coworkers were falling about laughing, even tho they weren't supposed to have seen it!

 

 

That's all I have, don't shoot me down if they don't end up coming to fruition, but each is from a good source.

 

 

That is AMAZING!

[benjii]

"passion for the club" in the way he would like it to be parochial , amateurish , low ambition , cosy , fan-pandering and of course providing jobs for the boys !

 

Wrong thread. The stuff about Unions is on The Lounge!

[benjii]

It really hasn't. It's this forum. It's an absolute disgrace and some of the people who post on here are as absurd as those who regard conspiracy theories as gospel. The season hasn't even started yet but still this forum manages to spawn the same vitriolic rubbish that tarnishes all Saints fans. Only a small selection of the fanbase posts on this message board but I simply cannot stand the majority of them. From the pseudo-c*ckney morons that think they're part of some firm to those who constantly scrutinise every tiny detail to make it into a huge issue (i.e that post about interviews on the official site being "pro-Cortese"). It's ludicrous. I keep reading "the club is rotten to the core" - it's not the club, it's its crazy fanbase.

 

This forum used to be a laugh and you could get into some pretty good debates but not anymore. Not even when we're on the cusp of actually achieving something and having an owner and chairman most clubs in the country would be proud of.

 

Agreed.

 

Membership runs out in two days... might let it lapse. May rejoin once season starts and all the weirdos have something better to talk about.

[hypochondriac]

Bit melodramatic - where do you keep reading "this club is rotten to the core"? I havn't read that since Lowe was here.

 

There is nothing wrong with posting a rumour you hear - good or bad.

 

There is nothing wrong with criticising decisions made by Cortese. It doesn't mean you are anti-Cortese, or that you are making a big issue out of anything. It just means you have a different point of view.

 

a-bloody-men. Brilliant post.

[saintkiptanui]

Agree Rory, this forum is so bad these days, doesn't help when one of the moderators has an agenda against Cortese.

[Channon's Sideburns]

This week our neighbours could go to the wall (with a little luck)

 

Just 12 months ago that could have been us.

 

But for Cortese and Markus.

 

For that reason alone, he can run the club as he sees fit. As for the other staff at SMS - it's simple. If it's THAT BAD, leave.

We finally have a businessman at the helm WHO WANTS US TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

What's wrong with that?!

 

I wish Cortese was here when Burley was in charge...that numpty would've been gone a whole lot quicker.

We SHOULD walk this league, end of story.

[Pilchards]

 

- AP and Cortese have a great working relationship and have developed a real rapport together. I've heard this from a couple of sources, but the funniest was my mum knows the tea lady at SMS who says she saw AP and NC walking towards each other down a corridor, and rather than just a polite nod to each other they - without speaking a word - gave each other a high five, and then followed through to hit hands again below (a "low 10" is it?) like they do in the volleyball scene in Top Gun. She and her coworkers were falling about laughing, even tho they weren't supposed to have seen it!

 

Oh jeez that makes my skin crawl, I hate this manager and chairmen love in stuff as I love to make up gossip to stir it up a bit.

[saint simes]

It really hasn't. It's this forum. It's an absolute disgrace and some of the people who post on here are as absurd as those who regard conspiracy theories as gospel. The season hasn't even started yet but still this forum manages to spawn the same vitriolic rubbish that tarnishes all Saints fans. Only a small selection of the fanbase posts on this message board but I simply cannot stand the majority of them. From the pseudo-c*ckney morons that think they're part of some firm to those who constantly scrutinise every tiny detail to make it into a huge issue (i.e that post about interviews on the official site being "pro-Cortese"). It's ludicrous. I keep reading "the club is rotten to the core" - it's not the club, it's its crazy fanbase.

 

This forum used to be a laugh and you could get into some pretty good debates but not anymore. Not even when we're on the cusp of actually achieving something and having an owner and chairman most clubs in the country would be proud of.

 

 

Well said, exactly how I see it!

[derry]

Do Cortese work together? Of course they do. Do they get on? If the last year tells us anything, disagreeing with Cortese isn't the way to get on at SFC. Last year Waigo was recruited from Italy unseen by Pardew, introduced by contacts of Cortese. Waigo was under utilised by Pardew despite changing games after coming on late. At the end of the season despite the speculation Cortese gave Pardew a vote of confidence, however there was a sting in the tail that seems to be ignored on here. Cortese stated catogorically that there was going to be a change in playing style to a more exciting style that would be the 'Southampton' style played throughout the club, after his discussions with Pardew.

 

I thought at the time that Pardew will have a problem with that, as he isn't that type of manager, preferring safety first pragmatism. To date there appears to be no change of style. Waigo went back to Fiorentina despite the option to purchase. It wouldn't surprise me if he isn't a bone of contention between the two. Markus Leibherr and Nicola Cortese are Europeans and I suspect hate the lump it up to Lambert style that we often employ. As far as I am concerned Markus Leibherr and because of his trust in Cortese, together, are the most important factors in SFC. Whilst Pardew is the present manager, if he isn't providing what the owner wants and goes his own way, there will be only one inevitable outcome. If Pardew goes, it might in the short term make a difference on the playing side, but I somehow think Cortese has that base covered if the rumours are true.

 

I would like to think that Pardew is striving to fulfill the aspirations of the owner however I have doubts that the two parties have much common ground.

 

I might not like the autocratic style but is the chosen way and as long as the present owner is getting what he wants out of the club, thats fine by me, because it sure as hell is better than the debacle we put up with in recent years, before Leibherr bought the club.

[Saint_clark]

Unfortunately the previously mentioned decline in the quality of debate on this website dates to when the £5 subscription fee was brought in.

[Ponty]

moderate it better then

 

And get accused of being a mole for the club? No thanks.

[stevegrant]

I thought at the time that Pardew will have a problem with that, as he isn't that type of manager, preferring safety first pragmatism.

Are you genuinely suggesting that we were a defensive (the near-perfect translation of "pragmatic" in football-speak) team last season?!

[Wes Tender]

To be fair to everyone, including the idiots, rumours spread more during the summer because we're bored. Especially with Saints fans, for better of worse, we haven't had many boring summers. Near liquidation, administration, relegation, new managers, completely new squads and so on. This all results in constant change, constant news, signings every week and a reason to come on here and discuss what's ACTUALLY happening.

 

Now we have the same league, a good team little changed, same manager, same board, no money problems and basically, just a wait for the season to start. A long boring wait. For me, I was impatient from the day we knew we couldn't make the playoffs. I didn't want another season in this league, so I was eager to get the next season started, carry on the good form and go up. I'm still impatient, so I come on here, look for gossip and read rubbish rumours. Are they helpful? Maybe not. Accurate? Rarely. But, at least it's a tiny bit of saints related entertainment, and that's what most of us are here for. As soon as the season starts we can get back to arguing like children over the more fun things like selections, formations and why we haven't won 46 in a row.

 

I think that you're quite right and I've also expressed the same opinion along with others. Thank God at least that we have the diversion of the Skate thread, started ironically by the same person that started this one too. Imagine how much worse it would have been without the Skates' precarious position to distract us.

[trousers]

Do Cortese work together? Of course they do. Do they get on? If the last year tells us anything, disagreeing with Cortese isn't the way to get on at SFC. Last year Waigo was recruited from Italy unseen by Pardew, introduced by contacts of Cortese. Waigo was under utilised by Pardew despite changing games after coming on late. At the end of the season despite the speculation Cortese gave Pardew a vote of confidence, however there was a sting in the tail that seems to be ignored on here. Cortese stated catogorically that there was going to be a change in playing style to a more exciting style that would be the 'Southampton' style played throughout the club, after his discussions with Pardew.

 

I thought at the time that Pardew will have a problem with that, as he isn't that type of manager, preferring safety first pragmatism. To date there appears to be no change of style. Waigo went back to Fiorentina despite the option to purchase. It wouldn't surprise me if he isn't a bone of contention between the two. Markus Leibherr and Nicola Cortese are Europeans and I suspect hate the lump it up to Lambert style that we often employ. As far as I am concerned Markus Leibherr and because of his trust in Cortese, together, are the most important factors in SFC. Whilst Pardew is the present manager, if he isn't providing what the owner wants and goes his own way, there will be only one inevitable outcome. If Pardew goes, it might in the short term make a difference on the playing side, but I somehow think Cortese has that base covered if the rumours are true.

 

I would like to think that Pardew is striving to fulfill the aspirations of the owner however I have doubts that the two parties have much common ground.

 

I might not like the autocratic style but is the chosen way and as long as the present owner is getting what he wants out of the club, thats fine by me, because it sure as hell is better than the debacle we put up with in recent years, before Leibherr bought the club.

 

Similar thoughts I had a few months ago....

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?22537-How-easy-is-it-for-football-managers-to-adapt-their-natural-style

[oxfordshire_saint]

It really hasn't. It's this forum. It's an absolute disgrace and some of the people who post on here are as absurd as those who regard conspiracy theories as gospel. The season hasn't even started yet but still this forum manages to spawn the same vitriolic rubbish that tarnishes all Saints fans. Only a small selection of the fanbase posts on this message board but I simply cannot stand the majority of them. From the pseudo-c*ckney morons that think they're part of some firm to those who constantly scrutinise every tiny detail to make it into a huge issue (i.e that post about interviews on the official site being "pro-Cortese"). It's ludicrous. I keep reading "the club is rotten to the core" - it's not the club, it's its crazy fanbase.

 

This forum used to be a laugh and you could get into some pretty good debates but not anymore. Not even when we're on the cusp of actually achieving something and having an owner and chairman most clubs in the country would be proud of.

 

Spot on!

 

Every thread, no matter what the subject, seems to degenerate quickly into a pro/anti Cortese slanging match involving the same individuals who've already had the same argument on another thread.

 

My subscription ran out last week, waiting to see if the start of the season brings a little sanity back, then I might renew.....

[Dark Munster]

Or.... he has a new manager lined up with such a high profile and calibre that fickle football fans would soon forget the AP 'outcry'?

[St Marco]

This forum really has become a joke over the summer. Just look at the first page of threads. If i was somone who had feck loads of money, came in and saved the club from near death, pumped money into the playing side, brought in a good manager, took the fans to Wembley and won them their 1st cup since 1976 in my 1st season in charge etc and came on here and saw the garbage being spouted i would think "you know what? **** em" and leave.

 

Because basically that is what your doing. Your talking like this stuff is real, like it actually happened. If someone say's something then it must be true as they posted it on the saints forum!

 

So much rubbish in the past few months and next to none of it has come true. NOBODY has a clue what is going on behind closed doors. And those that do have a bit more proffesionalism about them to not just go and tell dave the burger seller what is going on.

The problem is before NC we were used to multiple muppets spouting off about anything and everything. We were used to stuff being leaked from the club because it was run by a bunch of clowns. People are so ****ed off by the fact they are no longer in the loop at St Mary's they are just making stuff up.

 

I mean think about it....If NC was going to sack AP why would he wait 6 months to do it? Have you not learnt that NC is a succesful buisnessman? Does he strike you as a guy who would rather have a winning team promoted out of the league? Or someone who would rather sack someone he doesn't like the look of in 6 months time and see his company fail? I mean seriously?

 

Some of it is just stupid and the mods need to start getting a grip on this stuff as it makes us all look like tits. If your going to post **** about people have evidence. Don't go "my mate bob who knows this guy called jim who knows daisy the cleaner who over heard frank at his office talking to steve on the phone who said AP was going to get sacked at xmas!!"

 

It's pathetic.

[Crazy Diamond]

It really hasn't. It's this forum. It's an absolute disgrace and some of the people who post on here are as absurd as those who regard conspiracy theories as gospel. The season hasn't even started yet but still this forum manages to spawn the same vitriolic rubbish that tarnishes all Saints fans. Only a small selection of the fanbase posts on this message board but I simply cannot stand the majority of them. From the pseudo-c*ckney morons that think they're part of some firm to those who constantly scrutinise every tiny detail to make it into a huge issue (i.e that post about interviews on the official site being "pro-Cortese"). It's ludicrous. I keep reading "the club is rotten to the core" - it's not the club, it's its crazy fanbase.

 

This forum used to be a laugh and you could get into some pretty good debates but not anymore. Not even when we're on the cusp of actually achieving something and having an owner and chairman most clubs in the country would be proud of.

 

Very true Rory, very true.

 

Personally I think just about everyone on this forum ought to take a look at themselves and remember something - this is an Internet forum. No one is ever going to agree 100% of the time, and some people feel the need to act a certain way about certain thing, in turn, posting certain things. Peple rising to it only makes it worse, and then more posters get involved, and more, and more... etc etc.

 

I don't agree with the seemingly 'anti-NC' brigade and find some of it very silly indeed, but I'm stopping way short of the point where it bothers me. If people start feeling an emotional attachment to this forum and the posts that are made, I do have to wonder about them...

 

I have got a point to make in there somewhere but it's quite early in the morning now and I'm probably just rambling.

[shurlock]

Do Cortese work together? Of course they do. Do they get on? If the last year tells us anything, disagreeing with Cortese isn't the way to get on at SFC. Last year Waigo was recruited from Italy unseen by Pardew, introduced by contacts of Cortese. Waigo was under utilised by Pardew despite changing games after coming on late. At the end of the season despite the speculation Cortese gave Pardew a vote of confidence, however there was a sting in the tail that seems to be ignored on here. Cortese stated catogorically that there was going to be a change in playing style to a more exciting style that would be the 'Southampton' style played throughout the club, after his discussions with Pardew.

 

I thought at the time that Pardew will have a problem with that, as he isn't that type of manager, preferring safety first pragmatism. To date there appears to be no change of style. Waigo went back to Fiorentina despite the option to purchase. It wouldn't surprise me if he isn't a bone of contention between the two. Markus Leibherr and Nicola Cortese are Europeans and I suspect hate the lump it up to Lambert style that we often employ. As far as I am concerned Markus Leibherr and because of his trust in Cortese, together, are the most important factors in SFC. Whilst Pardew is the present manager, if he isn't providing what the owner wants and goes his own way, there will be only one inevitable outcome. If Pardew goes, it might in the short term make a difference on the playing side, but I somehow think Cortese has that base covered if the rumours are true.

 

I would like to think that Pardew is striving to fulfill the aspirations of the owner however I have doubts that the two parties have much common ground.

 

I might not like the autocratic style but is the chosen way and as long as the present owner is getting what he wants out of the club, thats fine by me, because it sure as hell is better than the debacle we put up with in recent years, before Leibherr bought the club.

 

My thoughts as well - when AP was under the spotlight last season, it wasnt just the results that concerned NC but the style of play. Does it matter as long as we're winning? I guess for a team used to losing, turning results around -as AP undoubtedly delivered in the first season- was an important first step; still at times we played some pretty dreadful one-dimensional football and when it came to the crunch we weren't quite savvy or creative enough to pick teams on the road or break down teams at SMS, notwithstanding the mountain of possession we had. Introducing players like Waigo were often the key.

 

Would be interesting to know how some of AP's transfer requests have gone down -e.g. bringing in another big man as support for Lambert. Possibly they've been quite contentious if NC is serious about embedding a Southampton Style- who knows. At any rate I don't think its impossible to get the ball down and play in L1 as Norwich showed (and we treatened at times - still think we played some of our best stuff when Mellis was around) while other managers -Billy Davies and Ian Holloway- have shown that leopards can change their spots. Am pretty sure AP will get us out of this division but whether his approach -as it is currently set up- can take us much further is less clear.

Edited 2 August, 2010 by shurlock

[Red and White Army]

This.

 

FF has made it clear that he heard this as a rumour, not as FACT. By doing so he is conceding that it could all be hearsay or conjecture, or indeed "made up" as some rumours can be. All he's doing is passing on said rumours. That is all.

 

From our friends at Wikipedia:

 

He also said these are all good sources, implying he believes them. Personally I think it is horse**** - if we are doing well, winning games and at the top of the league there is no chance Pardew will be given the boot. This is so self-evident it beggars belief a "respected" (by some) person wants to circulate these establishing rumours.

 

Stick to trolly-dollying Duncan.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

Someone seems to have attached a gigantic 'Holier than thou' magnet to this thread . I have to say don't find it at all 'attractive' or persuasive in all honesty.

 

It seems to me this forum is today exactly (let's repeat that for emphasis 'exactly') the same type of place now as it's been in the past . This is a robust , argumentative , insightful , ignorant , gossipy , funny , annoying , pointless , stimulating , obsessive , and above all opinionated place . If you really don't want to have a piece of all that anymore then the solution to your problem would appear to be remarkably easy .......

 

When exactly did we not argue constantly about the merits of our Chairman ?

Was there ever a consensus when we all agreed about player's ?

Did some unanimous opinion ever exist about the strength (or otherwise) of our squad ?

Was it ever 'out of order' to discuss the managers team selection ? ..... etc etc etc .

 

This mythical 'Golden Era' when this forum was a vastly better/different place than what it is today only exists between the ears of those who believe in this nonsense rather than any objective reality I can recognize .

[Red and White Army]

This mythical 'Golden Era' when this forum was a vastly better/different place than what it is today only exists between the ears of those who believe in this nonsense rather than any objective reality I can recognize .

 

I have been on internet saints dicussion groups for 15 year or so, from Dave Curries Saintslist through the various iterations of this forum... and this is the only forum where I can't be bothered to participate or read threads actively... just because the same old suspect **** on and on and spoil the forum for the majority... it would be great if the five quid limited everyone to posting six times a day rather than unlimited posting... I suspect the quality would go up and the quantity would go down which would be awesome.

 

In summary, I think you're wrong - this forum is a lot worse than it could/should be.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

I have been on internet saints dicussion groups for 15 year or so, from Dave Curries Saintslist through the various iterations of this forum... and this is the only forum where I can't be bothered to participate or read threads actively... just because the same old suspect **** on and on and spoil the forum for the majority... it would be great if the five quid limited everyone to posting six times a day rather than unlimited posting... I suspect the quality would go up and the quantity would go down which would be awesome.

 

In summary, I think you're wrong - this forum is a lot worse than it could/should be.

 

This forum (can't speak for the others) hasn't changed at all - you may just have grown out of it .

[alpine_saint]

Thirded, and close the accounts of the constant gripers. Really puts a downer on what is trying to happen with our club.

 

Yep, lets make the site only welcome to people who write "COYS" or "In AP we trust", sod any attempt at sensible debate or constructive criticism.

 

Ridiculous.

[alpine_saint]

AP is probably as good a manager as we could have attracted twelve months ago

 

Is he as good as we could attract now though ?

[John B]

Is he as good as we could attract now though ?

 

It all depends if they can work with Cortese I would have thought

 

Although I dont see any reason for Pardew to go I dont think it would be a disaster if he went

[Katalinic]

Yep, lets make the site only welcome to people who write "COYS" or "In AP we trust", sod any attempt at sensible debate or constructive criticism.

 

Ridiculous.

 

Did you mean constructive or constant? Just checking.

[alpine_saint]

Did you mean constructive or constant? Just checking.

 

Probably both. Yes sometimes its just a rant, but not always.

[iansums]

Papa Waigo's agent at the game yesterday, a deal could be sorted this week

NC been on holiday for 3 weeks, one week to go, flew in especially for game

AP won't make it to Xmas no matter how we are doing

last home game of 09-10 NC told pre-match pitch announcer on no account praise AP

 

Don't shoot the messenger - just passing on what was doing the rounds upstairs. All good sources.

 

Actually, you bloody well should be. This is sh*t stirring of the highest order and just what you would expect from a high ranking union official.

 

If I had been party to that information I would have passed on the first two lines but said nothing about the last two as it does our club (which FF is supposed to love) absolutely no favours.

[John B]

Actually, you bloody well should be. This is sh*t stirring of the highest order and just what you would expect from a high ranking union official.

 

If I had been party to that information I would have passed on the first two lines but said nothing about the last two as it does our club (which FF is supposed to love) absolutely no favours.

 

I am sorry but I totally disagree with you FF explained his reasons for posting which you seem to have disregard completely.

 

If there are tensions within the club between the Chairman and the Manager I would like to know about it as it is not a good thing

[Gingeletiss]

I am sorry but I totally disagree with you FF explained his reasons for posting which you seem to have disregard completely.

 

If there are tensions within the club between the Chairman and the Manager I would like to know about it as it is not a good thing

 

Sorry, how can you 'know about it' based on gossip, how can you form an opinion on something that is not a proven fact. Ask Duncan to name his source, then get that source to repeat his 'knowledge', then maybe you would have a point. It is pure scaremongering, designed to cause this kind of rift, ask Duncan about his agenda here! it seems to me, that he has been against this takeover from the start.

[JustMike]

Yep, lets make the site only welcome to people who write "COYS" or "In AP we trust", sod any attempt at sensible debate or constructive criticism.

 

Ridiculous.

 

I do hope you are not including your good self in that? ;-)

[iansums]

I am sorry but I totally disagree with you FF explained his reasons for posting which you seem to have disregard completely.

 

If there are tensions within the club between the Chairman and the Manager I would like to know about it as it is not a good thing

 

 

Well you may have a point as I couldn't be arsed to read the whole thread. However I have just read all FF's posts on this thread and I stand by what I said.

 

If there are tensions and I think you will find there are tensions between chairman and managers in the majority of football clubs then no, I don't want to know about it.

 

Some people on here seem to think that as fans of the club we have a divine right to know intimate details about the running of the club, we don't.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

Sorry, how can you 'know about it' based on gossip, how can you form an opinion on something that is not a proven fact. Ask Duncan to name his source, then get that source to repeat his 'knowledge', then maybe you would have a point. It is pure scaremongering, designed to cause this kind of rift, ask Duncan about his agenda here! it seems to me, that he has been against this takeover from the start.

 

Everyone that is anti-Cortese has an agenda don't they?

[shurlock]

Everyone that is anti-Cortese has an agenda don't they?

 

And just as everyone who is broadly supportive of Cortese is a blind stooge, right?

Edited 2 August, 2010 by shurlock

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Actually, you bloody well should be. This is sh*t stirring of the highest order and just what you would expect from a high ranking union official.

 

If I had been party to that information I would have passed on the first two lines but said nothing about the last two as it does our club (which FF is supposed to love) absolutely no favours.

 

And then, if it happens and we realise that FF knew all along? Oh yes! The witch hunt, Duncan knew all about this, where's the transparency, typical union bod keeping things hidden.

 

The poor guy can't win despite his openness and honesty.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

And just as everyone is broadly supportive of Cortese is a blind stooge, right?

 

Yep, that seems the way it works. There is no middle ground.

 

The thing is, if people actually could find a middle ground then there is room for both. Cortese has some real positives about his attitude, he is definately focused. I just think the "fame" of being a football club chairman has gone to his head and he needs bringing down a peg or two and winding his neck in.

[hypochondriac]

This forum (can't speak for the others) hasn't changed at all - you may just have grown out of it .

 

It really has. I think the main difference is how much bigger and more strictly moderated this is compared to the early days of saintsforever.