alpine_saint Posted 31 July, 2010 Author Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Go and ask the people who attended the game how that starting 11 acquitted themselves against top half championship team reading. 45mins compared to 46 games....wow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 This was the last game before the big kick off, and half of "the best first XI in League 1" were missing. WHY ? Crap start to the season and playing catch-up coming up.... *cue the pathetic excuses and digs* Because they were injured. Yawn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 45mins compared to 46 games....wow... I'm confused now mate. Your worried about our poor pre-season but above seems like you've taken on board that its a 46 game season. So are you saying you'll judge the team over the course of the league then rather than now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 There looked to be width to me today. What game were you watching? He wasn't watching the game he doesn't go to games. he relys on third hand posts and internet reports then lamblasts the team for what he thinks happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 We wanna win The League and we cant even beat a side aiming for promotion from the championship! Even with our academy on the pitch! WTF!? Pardew Out. Cortese Out. Alpine Out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Pardew has managed to bring in 3 full backs so this idea that you can't sign players is patently ridiculous. He's had 3 months to sign the other 3 players that he says he needs and hasn't done so, or maybe isn't being alowed . If Corteses has been insisting on waiting for loans, maybe there isn't as much money available as fans thoughts because that's a budget reason, not a football reason. Cuckoo, cuckoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 July, 2010 Author Share Posted 31 July, 2010 I'm confused now mate. Your worried about our poor pre-season but above seems like you've taken on board that its a 46 game season. So are you saying you'll judge the team over the course of the league then rather than now? Do you think the team is ready for a promotion campaign ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 45mins compared to 46 games....wow... i no longer have a clue what you're on about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 July, 2010 Author Share Posted 31 July, 2010 i no longer have a clue what you're on about. Thats abundantly clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Do you think the team is ready for a promotion campaign ? Yes I do, the team is more than ready whereas the squad is not there yet. There will be ups and downs no doubt but I won't worry about them just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 This was the last game before the big kick off, and half of "the best first XI in League 1" were missing. WHY ? Crap start to the season and playing catch-up coming up.... *cue the pathetic excuses and digs* What would be your excuse if most of the best first 11 in L1 got injured today?...............stop attention seeking, you only post your negative drivell to gain a reaction because you crave the attention. Hysterical tart thats what you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 (edited) Sh*t happens and the only thing you can do is muddle through is a weak defense. the fact is that the only reason current injuries matter is because we were weak in those areas to begin with.I also don't totally buy the idea that our best players are irreplacable and so we would be suffering with or without new additions. Edited 31 July, 2010 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian the Red Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Alpine has a point, we do have aweaker squad than last season at the moment. With the 4 out injured, last season we would have had Papa, Antonio to come in plus one or two others that have been released and not replaced. I can understand resting Spiderman and Ricky if they have slight knocks but the injuries to AL and Puncheon are a huge worry, as Alpine said we have no width without them. We need at least 2 or 3 more players this week and probably 5 by the 31st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 There's the answer to your question in black and white, Alpine: "Morgan has had a kick, Lallana has a troublesome knee which we can't quite clear up, but which we hope will be ok and Lambert has just done his groin slightly." Guess another pointless thread can be locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Who gives a sh*t about the result ? Go and look at that starting line-up again and asky yourself if that team will get auto promotion. Go and look at that starting line up again and ask yourself will it be the starting line up next Saturday. The only players likely to be unavailable next Saturday are Lallana and Richardson, it seems like even Adam is not ruled out. 2-1 up against the form team in the second half of last years CCC shows a pretty good performance in my view. We will I am sure have 2 or 3 new players before the window shuts, probably at least one before next weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Alpine will you be in attendance for the match thread next week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_UK Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 TO be fair, for the first hour today, when we had the starting 11 on the field we were far far better than Reading, it was only the many substitutions that meant we didnt beat them, I for one would be peferctly happy if the starting 11 today was the starting line up next week, I still think we would be better than Plymouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Shame you can't make it to games Apline. Then you might realise things aren't that bad and not everyone is suicidal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Shame you can't make it to games Apline. Then you might realise things aren't that bad and not everyone is suicidal. That's the thing, he doesn't know what he is talking about and relys on third hand accounts, Only an idiot that was there today could not agree that without 4 Key players, we were as good as, if not better than Reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_UK Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 So pre-season has been poor, who cares? pre season means nothing. would you rather we were world beaters in pre season and then got beat next week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madruss Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Yes I do, the team is more than ready whereas the squad is not there yet. There will be ups and downs no doubt but I won't worry about them just yet. Last season we started off the first game of the season with Paterson and Lancashire as 1st choice striker/defender yet we still ended up with enough points for the playoffs and not far off automatic. The squad needs quality and not quantity, and if it means playing the waiting game to get that quality then so be it. If we get to September 1st and we've made no signings and have less than 10 points on the board, then I'll start worrying. Until then, we've got more than enough in the current first XI to beat Plymouth, MK Dons and Leyton Orient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Typical Alpine melodramatic nonsense, I expect it's a combination of injuries and Pardew not wanting to show his hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 No, but the impact of the loss of Schneiderlin and Lambert has been clear to anybody with more than one brain cell for MONTHS. To not even attempt to cover them is plain mental. its clear because they are so f'ing good, mile above anything other teams have in this division and therefore irreplaceable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 July, 2010 Author Share Posted 31 July, 2010 its clear because they are so f'ing good, mile above anything other teams have in this division and therefore irreplaceable So let's not bother trying, eh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Alps, you're a top guy and often very perceptive. So if you were manager and if 3 of your best players had picked up minor knocks in pre-season, would you risk playing them in a meaningless friendly one week before the start of the season? Come on mate.... its a no-brainer. If AP had played them and exacerbated their injuries you would've been furious, as would I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 July, 2010 Author Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Alps, you're a top guy and often very perceptive. So if you were manager and if 3 of your best players had picked up minor knocks in pre-season, would you risk playing them in a meaningless friendly one week before the start of the season? Come on mate.... its a no-brainer. If AP had played them and exacerbated their injuries you would've been furious, as would I. I agree with you completely. However, the fact this has happened has for me exposed the lack of depth in the squad due to a poor summers work in the transfer market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 I'm basically going to be crying myself to sleep tonight. We're doomed. Time to hit the bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 I agree with you completely. However, the fact this has happened has for me exposed the lack of depth in the squad due to a poor summers work in the transfer market. Agreed, but you need that depth over an entire season. There is still ample time to bring in the RIGHT players. If we get to the end of August without further strengthening then it's panic stations. Don't forget..... "fools rush in etc etc." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 This was the last game before the big kick off, and half of "the best first XI in League 1" were missing. WHY ? Crap start to the season and playing catch-up coming up.... *cue the pathetic excuses and digs* The season hasn't started yet. Hence why we're currently in the pre-season HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 I'm basically going to be crying myself to sleep tonight. We're doomed. Time to hit the bottle. Me too. I can't believe we haven't got 8 players for every position ffs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Do you think the team is ready for a promotion campaign ? Yes. Definitely. I'm certain we are. I feel reinforced in that view by the performance of today's starting XI. Even without Lambert, Lallana, Schneiderlin and Puncheon, we looked pretty good ( well, until the 3rd and 4th string came on). We do still need a central midfielder, a winger and a centre forward. But mainly as cover (not necessarily staring XI players if everyone's fit). If we do buy one or two players who are so good, they walk into the starting line-up, that's great. But not a necessity. We're ready for a promotion campaign as we are. Right now. That's not the same as being nailed on to win the league though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Why is everybody reponding to Alpine who is totally unreasonable and has little idea of Football Seems to be a good performance today with a couple of new signings and our injured players back I think we will do well this season There are still 46 games to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Why is everybody reponding to Alpine who is totally unreasonable and has little idea of Football Seems to be a good performance today with a couple of new signings and our injured players back I think we will do well this season There are still 46 games to go You're not just leaning on that "plenty of games still to go" crutch are you? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Yes. Definitely. I'm certain we are. I feel reinforced in that view by the performance of today's starting XI. Even without Lambert, Lallana, Schneiderlin and Puncheon, we looked pretty good ( well, until the 3rd and 4th string came on). We do still need a central midfielder, a winger and a centre forward. But mainly as cover (not necessarily staring XI players if everyone's fit). If we do buy one or two players who are so good, they walk into the starting line-up, that's great. But not a necessity. We're ready for a promotion campaign as we are. Right now. That's not the same as being nailed on to win the league though... Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 You're not just leaning on that "plenty of games still to go" crutch are you? :-) No but we have not even started yet was my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 July, 2010 Author Share Posted 31 July, 2010 No but we have not even started yet was my point Yes, because everything is just suddenly going to "click" over the next 7 days, isnt it ? And you dare to judge who knows something about football or not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 No but we have not even started yet was my point Lol, I know. that's why I added the :-) or should it have been a ;-) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Yes, because everything is just suddenly going to "click" over the next 7 days, isnt it ? And you dare to judge who knows something about football or not... Newcastle played leyton orient at the same stage last season and lost 6-1. They drew 1 and won 5 of their opening 6 games of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Yes, because everything is just suddenly going to "click" over the next 7 days, isnt it ? And you dare to judge who knows something about football or not... Ok then alps, question. What in your eyes is an acceptable outcome from the Plymouth game? Would you take a slow-paced, scruffy 1-0 win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 July, 2010 Author Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Ok then alps, question. What in your eyes is an acceptable outcome from the Plymouth game? Would you take a slow-paced, scruffy 1-0 win? Yes. Considering the hype, especially from a good many on here, I would be entitled to expect that we win with a bit of panache... But then I dont believe all the spin on here anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croydonsaint Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 This was the last game before the big kick off, and half of "the best first XI in League 1" were missing. WHY ? Crap start to the season and playing catch-up coming up.... *cue the pathetic excuses and digs* . If ever there was a bigger w an ker on gods earth? Centre stage again, what a plank. Can we not just get him off? Centre stage again Alpine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Toblerone. These have been friendly games. next week is when it matters. The team will be comming out the starting blocks on fire . You seem to forget how together the squad is Its the real games that count. In Saints I belive COYRS and help to shut this negative goon up once and for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Still time to bring a player or two in but I admit the injuries are worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 July, 2010 Author Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Toblerone. These have been friendly games. next week is when it matters. The team will be comming out the starting blocks on fire . You seem to forget how together the squad is Its the real games that count. In Saints I belive COYRS and help to shut this negative goon up once and for all. Perfectly happy for the team to shut me up, and I will come on here and eat humble pie if they do so. Four of the first team carrying injuries is not coming out of the starting blocks on fire, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Yes. Considering the hype, especially from a good many on here, I would be entitled to expect that we win with a bit of panache... But then I dont believe all the spin on here anyway So what do you base your opinons on? how many times have you seen the team first hand to form this quite passionate view you have that what we have is not enough for automatic promotion? Your comment earlier of 'Mills mmmm' when mentioning fit wide players is based on what? How many times have you seen him play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 July, 2010 Author Share Posted 31 July, 2010 So what do you base your opinons on? how many times have you seen the team first hand to form this quite passionate view you have that what we have is not enough for automatic promotion? Your comment earlier of 'Mills mmmm' when mentioning fit wide players is based on what? How many times have you seen him play? A couple of times. But it is not my opinion that counts. AP was clearly not convinced last season either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 (edited) A couple of times. But it is not my opinion that counts. AP was clearly not convinced last season either. A couple of times for the team or Mllls? So unconvinced he gave him a start in the JPT final? AP seems to be convinced by him preseason, hence why he he has start most games. Edited 31 July, 2010 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff Saint Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Mills played a lot of games for S****horpe in this division when they won the play offs two seasons ago. He was good enough for them that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Go and ask the people who attended the game how that starting 11 acquitted themselves against top half championship team reading. For an hour we acquitted ourselves very well, both Mills and Dickson provided good width in midfield, Butterfield and Harding pushed forward, Barnard was outstanding and Connolly looked sharp ! As soon as the changes were made, Reading came into the game but it is understandable why this was done as there was no point to overstretch people like Jaidi, Fonte. Barnard, Connolly etc.. The result was probably sacrificed, but actually it was a good runout and will hopefully prove to be beneficial in the long run !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genk Posted 31 July, 2010 Share Posted 31 July, 2010 Alpine you seem to know so much about football. Why aren't you involved in the game professionally?.....oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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