Dave Benson Phillips Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 Well nice work, it was a decent pub, re the drink you already owe me 1 for the ST wrongness and another for being a bit of a bellend recently, so i'll scratch one off for you. As for NI, i don't know, i am not jumping to any conclusions, i just can't see why NC would openly alienate the fan base like VFTT has stated above, but he has done enough to p*ss off 9 out of 10 companies so it may be about him. As for him not getting info from the club, he really should have done, but then it depends if he has lodged a complaint via the correct procedure, that previous thread of mine you posted or not anyone would look like a tw*t if the manager you gets through to says, 'Did the ticket office not help you out ?' I am pretty sure I can speak for Nick on this one and assume that his first email would have been sent to David Luker. Which I would say would be the correct way ( yes that's right, I actually email David Luker, infact I emailed him today, that's what he is there for, so I wasn't saying you are wrong in contacting Luker, just hypocritical. I will ask the question on the Ugly and get back to you. xx
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 I am pretty sure I can speak for Nick on this one and assume that his first email would have been sent to David Luker. Which I would say would be the correct way ( yes that's right, I actually email David Luker, infact I emailed him today, that's what he is there for, so I wasn't saying you are wrong in contacting Luker, just hypocritical. I realise many people have a direct contact with him, but TBH i never realised he was quite so easy to contact as he appears to be. For that reason i asked on the front desk whether or not students still get a discount, they didn't know, i can only assume that was because of changeover at that time and everyone was unsure, for that reason i emailed the next guy up. He is still not senior management IMO BTW, isn't it easier to actually debate ? Unless you just want to meet in the plume for a punch up ?
Saint Charlie Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 See now you are speaking on behalf of the season ticket base are you? Have you spoke to all 13000 STH's? Haha I said that NC will be happy as 13000 ST's have been sold. Nothing to do with other ST holders. No Chairman will ever be 100% popular but Im sure NC has a lot more support than most. Not from you or a few others but you seem to represent a minority. Im sorry that you dont share my optimism for the clubs future in NC and ML's hands. But I am very happy with how he is running the club so no complaints here!
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 Haha I said that NC will be happy as 13000 ST's have been sold. Nothing to do with other ST holders. No Chairman will ever be 100% popular but Im sure NC has a lot more support than most. Not from you or a few others but you seem to represent a minority. Im sorry that you dont share my optimism for the clubs future in NC and ML's hands. But I am very happy with how he is running the club so no complaints here! Charlie Chops... I am intelligent enough to form my own opinions on the club, the direction its going in and NC himself. I don't need to be influenced by a one man band re a season ticket or an installment plan. NC has 13000 customers already and Im sure 90% are very very happy. The others can keep moaning if they want, but when the season starts they will be forgotten! How do you know 90% are very very happy? Have you surveyed them?
dune Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 Haha I said that NC will be happy as 13000 ST's have been sold. Nothing to do with other ST holders. No Chairman will ever be 100% popular but Im sure NC has a lot more support than most. Not from you or a few others but you seem to represent a minority. Im sorry that you dont share my optimism for the clubs future in NC and ML's hands. But I am very happy with how he is running the club so no complaints here! Generally speaking i think everyone is happy, but that doesn't mean NC is above criticism. As others have said we don't know the full story surrounding NI not getting a ST, but if there isn't a very good reason then I cannot support this action.
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 Generally speaking i think everyone is happy, but that doesn't mean NC is above criticism. As others have said we don't know the full story surrounding NI not getting a ST, but if there isn't a very good reason then I cannot support this action. No one is above criticism, least not a saints chairman, we all know that However i just don't think he is as bad as is being made out.
View From The Top Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 Not really, the vast majority of the fanbase do not know about hardly any of these issues TBF, if you stood in a street and asked whether or not the club was being run correctly i am confident that 90%+ would say yes. However, i do concede that he seems pretty ruthless and has the potential to p*ss a lot of people off, but ATM his decisions have been business decisions that have not really affected the masses. His PR skills are pretty sh*te however No, no, no. Dune knows that NC is losing support, all the way from his base in the East Midlands and him going to stacks of home games. How dare you suggest otherwise.
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 I realise many people have a direct contact with him, but TBH i never realised he was quite so easy to contact as he appears to be. For that reason i asked on the front desk whether or not students still get a discount, they didn't know, i can only assume that was because of changeover at that time and everyone was unsure, for that reason i emailed the next guy up. He is still not senior management IMO BTW, isn't it easier to actually debate ? Unless you just want to meet in the plume for a punch up ? Nick just messaged on the Ugly I have e mailed or left messages with management at every level of the club, including the ticket office So, I think rather than putting it down to an admin error, seeing as though it's about 4 weeks since his initial enquiry, and the fact nobody has returned his calls or emails, that he has blatantly been stopped from having a ST can't we?
View From The Top Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 Nick just messages on the Ugly I have e mailed or left messages with management at every level of the club, including the ticket office So, I think rather than putting it down to an admin error, seeing as though it's about 4 weeks since his initial enquiry, and the fact nobody has returned his calls or emails, that it's not simply down to an admin error? Can't we? No, we can't but I find that I don't really care, which is a pity. Prehaps he should walk over the bridge and actually ask in person at the TO.
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 Nick just messages on the Ugly I have e mailed or left messages with management at every level of the club, including the ticket office So, I think rather than putting it down to an admin error, seeing as though it's about 4 weeks since his initial enquiry, and the fact nobody has returned his calls or emails, that it's not simply down to an admin error? Can't we? If true than yes, Has he got the right email ? I am pretty sure i didn't The club should really tell him why, but as i said, he has probably done enough to annoy 9 out of 10 companies enough to tell him to f*ck off. But again, the club should communicate things better.
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 Prehaps he should walk over the bridge and actually ask in person at the TO. Fair comment.
dune Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 No, no, no. Dune knows that NC is losing support, all the way from his base in the East Midlands and him going to stacks of home games. How dare you suggest otherwise. I have done loads of games (home and away) over the years. I'm not going to rise to you trolling further.
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 No, no, no. Dune knows that NC is losing support, all the way from his base in the East Midlands and him going to stacks of home games. How dare you suggest otherwise. Lol He IS the forum saviour donchaknow
Wes Tender Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 I often wonder if there are any clubs in this country, or inded the world that has fans such as ours. We are on the brink of going out of existence and thankfully, luckily a Swiss billionaire decides to rescue us. Many said it was Cortese who finally convinded him to invest. A year or so down the line after one of the most entertaining seasons I've seen and a trip to Wembley, we bicker like this. A ball hasn't even been kicked yet but the club isn't being run to some peoples exacting standards. Apparantley they "deserve" to be treated better. Well F*CK them. If this football club isn't good enough for you the way it's being run at the monent then it never will be. I just hope Cortese doesn't read this forum and pass the views on to Markus, if I was in his shoes I'd never have got involved in a club with the most bitter and ungrateful fans you could meet. I'm with you entirely on this and even found myself agreeing with Manji for saying much the same thing. Perhaps it's the boredom factor, various people passing the time by examining the fluff in their belly-buttons. Roll on the start of the season when we can get down to discussing the real issues regarding the important things like the players and the manager, match reports, refereeing standards, etc. All of this belly-aching is just all p*ss and wind and should be treated with the contempt that it deserves.
modern matron Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 Personally I have been a season ticket holder since 1977, so if the club sent my money back because of an opinion I had expressed I would be absolutely gutted! If Nick's situation is true then I believe Mr Cortese is a dictator who rules by fear shutting down criticism of him or SFC. This is wrong, wrong, wrong! Southampton FC is not the property of Nicola Cortese it belongs to US! Nick and I have invested/paid thousands of pounds into SFC for many years, NC is paid thousands to run this club and has put little in himself. I am very dissappointed and at this...
theyin Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 Just go to the games and be thankful you have a club to support. Like others I sincerely hope NC realised long ago that this forum is quite often full of sh1te and just got on and ran the club. I myself have bemoaned a few decisions here but rather that than figuring out which club to support
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 Personally I have been a season ticket holder since 1977, so if the club sent my money back because of an opinion I had expressed I would be absolutely gutted! If Nick's situation is true then I believe Mr Cortese is a dictator who rules by fear shutting down criticism of him or SFC. This is wrong, wrong, wrong! Southampton FC is not the property of Nicola Cortese it belongs to US! Nick and I have invested/paid thousands of pounds into SFC for many years, NC is paid thousands to run this club and has put little in himself. I am very dissappointed and at this... I agree with your sentiments MM, but the bit about SFC not being the property of NC sums it all up - he (or his employer ML) owns us and there is nothing we can do about it apart from blind support! This is what I said 12 months ago. So far so good and I would like to think we are in good hands but..................... I have to admit to having doubts how NC conducts himself. My personal opinion is it will -eventually -end in tears. When? God knows but it would be wise if some sort of Plan B was being formulated. In the meantime lets hope it holds together this season and we justify our odds of being favs for winning the League. It is possible but too much more rocking the boat will make it harder. We should be grateful for them taking over but at the same time we are now perhaps waking up to some of the drawbacks of being in a situation where our views actually count for nought.
modern matron Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 Just go to the games and be thankful you have a club to support. Like others I sincerely hope NC realised long ago that this forum is quite often full of sh1te and just got on and ran the club. I myself have bemoaned a few decisions here but rather that than figuring out which club to support I do agree. I think this is all very sad - I don't think a community business such as SFC does need this poor publicity....
sotonjoe Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 I'm with you entirely on this and even found myself agreeing with Manji for saying much the same thing. Perhaps it's the boredom factor, various people passing the time by examining the fluff in their belly-buttons. Roll on the start of the season when we can get down to discussing the real issues regarding the important things like the players and the manager, match reports, refereeing standards, etc. All of this belly-aching is just all p*ss and wind and should be treated with the contempt that it deserves. yep, another vote for that approach here. The rest of you can feck off becase if you think you're gonna drag this regime down the pan you are really pathetic.
modern matron Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 (edited) I agree with your sentiments MM, but the bit about SFC not being the property of NC sums it all up - he (or his employer ML) owns us and there is nothing we can do about it apart from blind support! This is what I said 12 months ago. So far so good and I would like to think we are in good hands but..................... I have to admit to having doubts how NC conducts himself. My personal opinion is it will -eventually -end in tears. When? God knows but it would be wise if some sort of Plan B was being formulated. In the meantime lets hope it holds together this season and we justify our odds of being favs for winning the League. It is possible but too much more rocking the boat will make it harder. We should be grateful for them taking over but at the same time we are now perhaps waking up to some of the drawbacks of being in a situation where our views actually count for nought. I think I understand you. Criticism of the regime is not permitted. Sadly this means we have no club to comment upon, even criticise. Fear rules - no free speech allowed. You say we should be grateful - why and for what? I'm not grateful to NC. He talks of SFC being his baby! Look SFC is my baby and has been since I can remember. Mr Cortese is the Chairman that's all. I thank Markus Liebherr for everything - not Mr Cortese. Edited 27 July, 2010 by modern matron
dune Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 Did Rupert Lowe ever ban anyone for criticising the club?
Gigersaint Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 Further to some recent obsevations regarding NC it is odd that after numerous contact at all levels that Nick still doesn't have an answer, whether an admin error, banned, or otherwise. From what I've seen, heard of Nick Illingsworth over the years he too certainly has never struck me as someone who would be easily fobbed off time and time again without some kind of definitive answer. Any fan without response after several weeks I'm sure would be visiting the ticket office in person to sort it out further to emails and phone calls, perhaps even requesting an appointment if deemed necessary enough? Surely they aren't ignoring him if he has gone in person to the ticket office too without offering some explanation? I wouldn't walk away without knowing if I could renew my ST or not and the reason why, from Nicks reputation I can't see that he would either? Not doubting the comments from Nick that have been posted here but this is the bit I'm struggling to understand or am I missing something.
alpine_saint Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 Did Rupert Lowe ever ban anyone for criticising the club? He had Ian Gordon, Brian Hunt and Keith Wiseman kicked out of the boardroom for disagreeing. Close enough ?
Wes Tender Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 Personally I have been a season ticket holder since 1977, so if the club sent my money back because of an opinion I had expressed I would be absolutely gutted! If Nick's situation is true then I believe Mr Cortese is a dictator who rules by fear shutting down criticism of him or SFC. This is wrong, wrong, wrong! Southampton FC is not the property of Nicola Cortese it belongs to US! Nick and I have invested/paid thousands of pounds into SFC for many years, NC is paid thousands to run this club and has put little in himself. I am very dissappointed and at this... I think that the word IF with which you commence your tirade ought to be written in very much bigger and bolder letters, as it is the crux of the whole matter. I thought that you were usually someone who liked to know the facts before jumping in with both feet on one side or the other. And just to correct a few fallacies in your post; the club might not be owned by Cortese, but it is owned lock stock and barrel by his friend Markus Liebherr. If you owned shares in the club when it was a PLC, then you could have laid claim to some minute part ownership, but none of the fans own any part of the club now. You might claim some moral ownership along the lines that it is our club, in the same way that you might say that it is our city, our pub, our old school, etc, but that is all. Money paid into the club's coffers was in return for watching the Saints play football, or for overpriced merchandise. Nobody forced you to pay that money and you can discontinue payment at any time. NC is paid thousands to run this club because he was paid thousands as a very sucessful banker before he came here. I'm sure that ML is entirely happy with NC's salary level, which is all that matters. And unless you can prove otherwise, I suspect that he puts in the hours into running the club, so you cannot state that he has put little in himself.
modern matron Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 I think that the word IF with which you commence your tirade ought to be written in very much bigger and bolder letters, as it is the crux of the whole matter. I thought that you were usually someone who liked to know the facts before jumping in with both feet on one side or the other. And just to correct a few fallacies in your post; the club might not be owned by Cortese, but it is owned lock stock and barrel by his friend Markus Liebherr. If you owned shares in the club when it was a PLC, then you could have laid claim to some minute part ownership, but none of the fans own any part of the club now. You might claim some moral ownership along the lines that it is our club, in the same way that you might say that it is our city, our pub, our old school, etc, but that is all. Money paid into the club's coffers was in return for watching the Saints play football, or for overpriced merchandise. Nobody forced you to pay that money and you can discontinue payment at any time. NC is paid thousands to run this club because he was paid thousands as a very sucessful banker before he came here. I'm sure that ML is entirely happy with NC's salary level, which is all that matters. And unless you can prove otherwise, I suspect that he puts in the hours into running the club, so you cannot state that he has put little in himself. Look NC is very well paid to run SFC! However, he is an employee only. Therefore, I expect fans to be treated properly. If this happened to a customer of British Gas, not SFC, there would be uproar. Sadly I think if Rupert had presided over SFC with this type of financial backing, all of his critics would have become his backers - forgetting the way he bahaved.... Look at BP to see how quickly things change at the top......
Thedelldays Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 (edited) I just love the way this place is now judge, Juror and executionor all in one.... cortese is making lowe look like a PR dream....ffs, thank god i only hace 2 weeks or so of full subscription...lol I bet those in power at the club read this website all sat around laughing at the mongs thinking they know how to run a multi million pound busniess with their fag packet sums I wonder if the club/NC would round up all the accusations and take action against people/this message board..??? Edited 27 July, 2010 by Thedelldays
Thedelldays Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 Look NC is very well paid to run SFC! However, he is an employee only. Therefore, I expect fans to be treated properly. If this happened to a customer of British Gas, not SFC, there would be uproar. Sadly I think if Rupert had presided over SFC with this type of financial backing, all of his critics would have become his backers - forgetting the way he bahaved.... Look at BP to see how quickly things change at the top...... you forget lowe had SKY millions....we got relegated in the end and nearly died as a club...
Chez Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 He had Ian Gordon, Brian Hunt and Keith Wiseman kicked out of the boardroom for disagreeing. Close enough ?were they still allowed to watch the side?
modern matron Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 you forget lowe had SKY millions....we got relegated in the end and nearly died as a club... Fair point, but NC seems to be a control freak - worrying.....
Chez Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 I wonder if the club/NC would round up all the accusations and take action against people/this message board..???are you suggesting that is a good idea and/or suggesting that NC is quite petty?
Thedelldays Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 Fair point, but NC seems to be a control freak - worrying..... how...because he does not massge a few fans egos almost daily or upon their request..? perhaps he should tell us all about a letter from chris iwellumo or some other player about how great we are as a club..??
trousers Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 Fair point, but NC seems to be a control freak Like most successful CEOs? BP being the recent exception of course....
NickG Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 I agree with your sentiments MM, but the bit about SFC not being the property of NC sums it all up - he (or his employer ML) owns us and there is nothing we can do about it apart from blind support! This is what I said 12 months ago. So far so good and I would like to think we are in good hands but..................... I have to admit to having doubts how NC conducts himself. My personal opinion is it will -eventually -end in tears. When? God knows but it would be wise if some sort of Plan B was being formulated. In the meantime lets hope it holds together this season and we justify our odds of being favs for winning the League. It is possible but too much more rocking the boat will make it harder. We should be grateful for them taking over but at the same time we are now perhaps waking up to some of the drawbacks of being in a situation where our views actually count for nought. or course it will end in tears! This is football! If we are winning, and crowds are good (as in first 13 months) ML, NC and vast majority of fans will be happy. I am sure it will go wrong one day - logic says it will have to end!
slipped~halo Posted 27 July, 2010 Posted 27 July, 2010 I wrote to NI regarding a complaint about Silverspoons for the JTP Trophy.....he chose to ignore all my emails too, perhaps he don't like it now the boot on the other foot!
westofshannonsaint Posted 28 July, 2010 Posted 28 July, 2010 could it be that NC sees NI as one of those "with their own agenda's and harmful to the club" that he mentioned in his post season/pardew staying interview? Has Saints FC ever contacted Saintsweb about use of the badge etc.?
Deano6 Posted 28 July, 2010 Posted 28 July, 2010 I am one of only 2 that post on here in our group. In the pub, pretty much the unanimous thought is that Cortese is a c*nt. Although also the depth of feeling is not so much that they would act on it yet. Although not being members of this forum, they cannot see the full scale. I'm sure you similarly tell them that everyone on this board is unanimously against Cortese.
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 28 July, 2010 Posted 28 July, 2010 I've heard of this Cortese bloke, but who the frig is Nick Illingsworth???????
Daren W Posted 28 July, 2010 Posted 28 July, 2010 I'm with you entirely on this and even found myself agreeing with Manji for saying much the same thing. Perhaps it's the boredom factor, various people passing the time by examining the fluff in their belly-buttons. Roll on the start of the season when we can get down to discussing the real issues regarding the important things like the players and the manager, match reports, refereeing standards, etc. All of this belly-aching is just all p*ss and wind and should be treated with the contempt that it deserves. So as far as we know, Nick has been banned. If he's not received any kind of answer from any level then that speaks volumes. Now if it's because of the Silverspoons fiasco then I can understand it but the club has to say why Nick has been refused a season ticket. To just say nothing is pretty poor. Balance is required here. If Nick has been denied a ticket deliberately he needs to be told why. It's very bad form to not reply and it just fuels the conspiracy theories. It may be that's it's just a **** up (but unlikely) but as long as the club says nothing then anything could be the answer an dthat's apparent here with people talking with great authority, on both sides of the fence. On the subject of the negativity, perhaps we're so used to having moan that it comes as second nature but that doesn't mean we shouldn't question the club. The removal of the installment plan without notice, especially after having it on the "Fans Charter," was a major **** up but let's not let it overshadow what should be a cracking season.
skintsaint Posted 28 July, 2010 Posted 28 July, 2010 without reading the whole thread - from the opening post Im struggling to see where it says he has been refused a season ticket?
Goalie66 Posted 28 July, 2010 Posted 28 July, 2010 Personally I have been a season ticket holder since 1977, so if the club sent my money back because of an opinion I had expressed I would be absolutely gutted! If Nick's situation is true then I believe Mr Cortese is a dictator who rules by fear shutting down criticism of him or SFC. This is wrong, wrong, wrong! Southampton FC is not the property of Nicola Cortese it belongs to US! Nick and I have invested/paid thousands of pounds into SFC for many years, NC is paid thousands to run this club and has put little in himself. I am very dissappointed and at this... Absolutely spot on. Cortese is like many immature business people who I have come accross that is more intent in pleasing his boss than his customers. Ultimately he will alienate everyone and Liebherr as well . Give him two years
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 28 July, 2010 Posted 28 July, 2010 I'm sure you similarly tell them that everyone on this board is unanimously against Cortese. Would you like to provide a link to where I have said that? Or are you speaking out of your arse?
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 28 July, 2010 Posted 28 July, 2010 without reading the whole thread - from the opening post Im struggling to see where it says he has been refused a season ticket? http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/fb_mb.php?m=v&t=3127&page=4#80
Goalie66 Posted 28 July, 2010 Posted 28 July, 2010 without reading the whole thread - from the opening post Im struggling to see where it says he has been refused a season ticket? He did say his money was refunded for his season ticket !!!
Secret Site Agent Posted 28 July, 2010 Posted 28 July, 2010 So what would you do if you could not buy a season ticket after following the Saints for 40 years By the way talking to the monkey never works you need to speak to the organ grinder There is a reason to this and it is probably not what we think. My thread of speaking to another egotistical CEO pointed out that we shouldn't try and read peoples mind. We are assuming, as NI is, that the reason he hasn't got a season ticket is becasue he has spoken out previously, based on NO EVIDENCE and the fact that he no longer has any pull in the new regieme
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 28 July, 2010 Posted 28 July, 2010 I think this sorry episode again highlights the major communications breakdown inherent at the club. The club are seemingly intent on putting up a huge barrier between themselves and the fan base, whereby the only conduit of information comes through the official site. Previously supporters were able to contact individual staff members directly for answers to personal or public questions, this is now seemingly being severely restricted. Akin to the Daily Echo ban, this smacks of bitterness and supreme pettiness by SFC. This seems to me to be more of an attack on free speech itself . I could hardly care less about the Saints Trust and Mr Illingsworth but to deny any fan a season ticket merely because he disagrees with an aspect of the clubs ticketing arrangements (if true) smacks of despotism . It would appear that there is only one point of view allowable now - the official club standpoint - and no other opinion will be tolerated . While I can think of some on here who would no doubt fully approve of that policy (indeed they apply it on here) I personally find it contrary to everything the principles of democracy and this old country's long history is supposed to stand for . We have much to thank Nicola Cortese and Markus Liebheer for , and as long as the club is being successful Mr Cortese's obvious authoritarian tendances will count for little or nothing as above all else we all want to see this club succeed . But one day when the success dries up (as it surely will) all the enemies he's making now among the fanbase , supporter groups , and in the press with come back to haunt him . Mr Cortese there's a old English expression you may be unaware of : What goes around - comes around .
Secret Site Agent Posted 28 July, 2010 Posted 28 July, 2010 Knock, knock! Who's there ? Nick illingsworth! Nick illingsworth who? Nick illingsworth, chairman of the saints trust!!! Still never heard of you. Now could you please form an orderly queue, mr illington, behind everyone else and stop trying to jump the queue!!!!!
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 28 July, 2010 Posted 28 July, 2010 There is a reason to this and it is probably not what we think. My thread of speaking to another egotistical CEO pointed out that we shouldn't try and read peoples mind. We are assuming, as NI is, that the reason he hasn't got a season ticket is becasue he has spoken out previously, based on NO EVIDENCE and the fact that he no longer has any pull in the new regieme If the club refuse to speak to him then people will come to assumptions. That's not NI or anyone elses fault, that's the clubs fault, in exactly the same way it was with the Pardew situation, it's all very well the club staying silent, but that will just fan the flames of speculation and people will come to their own conclusions. Luckily for Cortese, he seems to be able to get away with it, and I am sure when the decision is reversed ( as it certainly will be ) that the club will call it an administration error. Anyone who hasn't got their head stuck up Corteses arse can see it's not an administration error, and is no more than a petty tantrum by Cortese.
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