Should have played for Pompey

[Saint in Paradise]

I see the cheat has "taken" 800 Test Wickets, he would have been perfect for Pompey

and their cheating ways if he had been a footballer. I can never ever class him as a sportsman

and gentleman, even the Aussies are better sports IMHO.

[stevegrant]

Except following substantial and detailed scientific tests, it was proven that Murali's action was not illegal, but hey, don't let facts get in the way.

 

I would still consider Warne a better bowler overall, primarily because a lot of Murali's wickets have come against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe, but that doesn't detract from the fact that he's been a fantastic bowler during his career.

[Saint in Paradise]

Sorry Steve but IMHO.... well I better not say what I really think about "those tests"

[Smirking_Saint]

More or less of a cheat than Malinga the Flinga ???

[keithd]

again with malinga his action has been proven to be legal. not a lot else they can do to be honest

 

as for Mirali, yep great player, of course he has to be considered on of the best as 800 wickets is an incredible achievment but like Steve I'd put Warne ahead of him. Not only did Murali take plenty against lesser teams Warney was banned from playing for a time IIRC, plus Warne played in a team where lots of other players were taking wickets not just a "one man band"

[Lord Duckhunter]

Had MM been English, Aussie or from New Zealand, he'd never have got away with it. Had he been playing in Jim Lakers day, he'd have been called every ball, and never have taken the wickets he did. Therefore people are not comparing like for like. Granted, he has taken more wickets than any other chucker, but that's not too hard as the others were not allowed to continue. The ICC pandering to the Asia block and fear of a breakaway and loss of the main revenue earner, India, mean he's been allowed to continue to chuck the ball.

 

Warne on the other hand is one of the all time greats, leg spin was a dead art in test matches 20 years ago and he changed that completely.You can not compare the two. Warne would have taken wickets 50 years ago, MM would not have been allowed to chuck the ball. I dread to think the damage Lillie and Thompson or the West Indian quicks would have done to the batsmen, if they'd chucked it.

[corsacar saint]

Look in the record books,and no one will ever get within 300 wickets of Murali.Can someone explain to me how you can spin a ball like Murali,if it was a throw?

Not a fan of Murali in particular,but some of the opinions on here beggar belief.

[Lord Duckhunter]

Look in the record books,and no one will ever get within 300 wickets of Murali.Can someone explain to me how you can spin a ball like Murali,if it was a throw?

Not a fan of Murali in particular,but some of the opinions on here beggar belief.

 

There must be a reason why the rules don't allow the ball to be chucked, or at least they didn't until these "tests" came along. Jim Laker would have been called every time, if he tried to propel the ball towards the batsmen like MM does.

 

Cricket is being kept alive by the money generated in Asia and the make up of the ICC reflects this. Bangladesh would never have been given test match status had they been an European Country, they are just not good enough. They are now an extra vote in a bloc against England, The Aussies and New Zealand. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, but the "legalisation" of MM's action needs to be placed in the context of Cricket politics at this time. There is no doubt that any time before 1990, his action would have been outlawed.

[skintsaint]

List of all his wickets....not surprising to see us top of the list, so poor against spin.

 

112 v England (in 16 Tests)

105 v India (in 22)

104 v South Africa (in 15)

89 v Bangladesh (in 11)

87 v Zimbabwe (in 14)

82 v New Zealand (in 14)

82 v West Indies (in 12)

80 v Pakistan (in 16)

59* v Australia (in 13)